"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[trolleyboy]

Okay one more round of photo's for today.

Enjoy Rob



Two old war horses waiting for their turns on the mainline. TSR 327 & TRC 1326



Railgrinding train ( Ex Cleveland PCC's ) W30 & W31



The Museum's large Witt 2424 "on the Set of Cinderellaman"at York and Bay dStreets in Toronto july 2004



TSR 327 heading downbound on the mainline,having just exited the west loop.



Small Witt 2786 heading west on the mainline in the early fall of 1988

[trolleyboy]

Okay now I'll add a few shots to round out this sunday's festivities. Just museum stuff this week guys. [sorry][:I]



The days line up. TSR 327 , TCR/TTC W28 , TTC 2424 , TTC 2894



TRC 1326 breaking the happy 50th banner july 10 2004



MS&C 107 and TRC 1326 waiting for the parade to begin july 10 / 04



LSR 23 sunning itself in yard 3 on July 10 /04



The line up or rouges gallery on display in yard 3 July 10 /04

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Tom and the gang. Great pictures today [tup] Doug thanks for the Northshore car,looks like it was just shopped yeasterday. Russ some nice cow calf type shots there. You can just see the SW7 that slug used to once be.

Though a bit off for a Sunday the following needs to be said.

BK [#welcome] Back to you sir, you have been sorely missed indeed ! We are all looking forward to a proper celebration of your "stoolhood" in the comming days ( daze)

Lars Wow , I'm gald that you guys are starting to dry out, I'd have to say though that i would be darn near a basketcase if 2' of water found it's way into my basement.Here's hoping that all is set right quickly and with a minimum of fuss a damage to your lives. remember I'm buying for you tomorrow !

Tom ] Nice editions to ted's labours to be sure,also interesting "eurodomes" as well [tup]


Rob

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Check out these trains from Switzerland!


(1) Switzerland TEE, built by (Deutsche Bahn AG), Germany (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)



(2) Switzerland: TEE, built in 1962 by DBAG (Deutsche Bahn AG, Germany (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)



(3) Switzerland TEE, built in 1962 by DBAG (Deutsche Bahn AG), Germany (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)



(4) Switzerland: MOB Panoramic Express (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)



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That's it for me - see y'all Monday morning![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

I'll pop this through the mail slot.

Thanks ROB for the Encores last night it seems hard to believe Classic Juice #1 was first posted that long ago.

Great to hear from P and BK.

LARS Glad the furnace and other equipment escaped serious damage. In times of trouble its wonderful to have good friends and relatives to help out.

On to the pics.
DOUG Great Phots of the IRM steam, diesel and Jewett Car. Hopefully #1630 will steam next year it looks a fine loco. The photo of the passenger car shows how much hard work is required to restore them to their former glory.

RUSSELL.Thanks for the UP photos. Are there many of the slug units around the K.C. area?. I have not one seen yet.

TED Great layout really like the Southern Railway 0-6-0. Hope to see you at the bar soon.

TOM Thanks for posting Ted's photos. Looking forward to going to the Emporium and seeing Northwest Frontier. PETE.

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Here’s a return to HO from Theodorebear Ted and his ongoing efforts with building his pike:


(1) Panorama of downtown



(2) Southern Railways 0-6-0 – Southern Crescent – B&O Capitol Ltd.



(3) Southern Railways obs (L) – B&O EMC E-7 (R)



(4) Depot Center (looking west to east)



Thanx to Ted for the continuing contributions of his Pike Pix! [tup][tup][tup]
More next week . . .


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Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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[Trainnut484]

Good morning Tom and gang. I know we're closed today, and it is Sunday Photo Posting Day, so I'll gently slip these in through the mail slot.

ENCORE PIX [8D][8D] Click to enlarge:

UP E9 951 Topeka RR Days festival 1993


UP switcher with slug



BAR GP38 361 with ex-NS nee-NW locomotive


Enjoy [:D]

Russell

[BudKarr]

Good Morning Tom and fellow bar flies!

Yes, it is me, and I am back up in Alberta, Canada with my gal all settled in for what we plan to be an even greater segment to our lives than what has gone before.

Yes, I do know that the bar is CLOSED and I hope you will forgive the departure from what you expect on Sundays.

I returned to the states later than expected – far later, but earlier in the week than planned. If you follow that. Got finished at the main office – put my papers in for retirement and bid farewell to one and all. They still think I will change my mind. Ha! Made it back to the mountain country on Thursday last, and finally decided to come up for air to see what is going on at my favorite bar. Appears that the personalities have changed some, as I am not seeing the familiar names in the summaries that I expected to see. So many, many pages to go through. I will ultimately get there, but it will take a bit of time.

It was a long, long journey and one that taxed my ability to remain rational. Between business and my personal desires to get it over with, this last experience was one of the most arduous of my career, notwithstanding being shot at, shot and all of those nasty kinds of things that occur to people doing the things I have done in the past. Never again, no more, that is it for me.

Now, I do not want to turn this into anything more than a simple greeting to those of you who remember me. If the bar was open today, I would most assuredly spring for the drinks. Tomorrow, as they say, is another day. So, that sack of foreign currency is sitting inside your box on the front porch. I like that spring loaded mechanism that locks it tight once something is placed within it. Where in the world did you come up with that contraption?

I want to thank you, Captain Tom, for the email traffic. It was most comforting hearing from you and kept me thinking about that light at the end of the tunnel. Just was hoping it was not the headlight of an oncoming train!<smile>

When you open up the bar in the morning, please have Boris ring that bell throughout the day as the drinks are on me and have him polish up that Reserved Stool – I expect to be using it a bit more frequently.

BK

[LoveDomes]

Good Morning Tom and whoever is browsing today,


Just waterlogged Lars checking in after a terrible couple of days. Basement flooded – as you know – had at about 2 ft throughout. Water was actually cascading down and through one of my walls. Just a mess – and we’re not even close to seeing the light of day.[tdn]

Had to take a break and figured this and the Sunday paper might get my mind back on an even keel!

Fortunately we were able to escape serious damage to the furnace, water heater and other assorted things found in basements. Shut everything down, so had to rely on a power generator and portable equipment until I could get the pumps working. Friends and relatives pitched in and now we have a half dozen large fans trying to dry the place out. Basement people are supposed to be here in the morning – the work they did a few years back is still on warranty (thankfully) and according to the guy who was here yesterday (Saturday) between what they will take care of and homeowner’s insurance – we’re “covered.”[tup]

So that’s the scoop from here. Sorry about missing out on the Pix Posting Sunday event – but as you can tell – I’m just a bit tied up.[swg]

Really haven’t had the time to do very much online – but I will. From what I’ve quickly looked at, some nice starts to the day![tup]


Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!


Fahrenheit 451 (1966)

QUOTE: PLOT DESCRIPTION
In the future, an oppressive government maintains control of public opinion by outlawing literature and maintaining a group of enforcers known as "firemen" to perform the necessary book burnings. This is the premise of Ray Bradbury's acclaimed science-fiction novel Fahrenheit 451, which became the source material for French director Francois Truffaut's English-language debut. While some liberties are taken with the description of the world, the narrative remains the same, as fireman Montag (Oskar Werner) begins to question the morality of his vocation. Curious about the world of books, he soon falls in love with a beautiful young member of a pro-literature underground -- and with literature itself. Critics were divided on the effectiveness of the result; some praised the unique design and eerie color cinematography by Nicolas Roeg, while others found the film's stylized approach overly distancing and attacked the central performances as unnatural. In any case, however, the film inarguably succeeds in making Truffaut's reverence for the written word abundantly clear, especially during the film's justifiably famous finale. ~ Judd Blaise, All Movie Guide

Northwest Frontier (aka: Flame over India) (1959)

QUOTE: PLOT DESCRIPTION
Northwest Frontier was the original Briti***itle for Flame Over India. When the Moslems attack a British fortress in colonial India, it is imperative that the local Maharaja's son be taken to safety. The man for the job is commander Kenneth More, who uses a rusty old train for that purpose. Among the other fugitives is the boy's British governess Lauren Bacall and the untrustworthy Herbert Lom. A cat-and-mouse session between good and bad guys segues into a heart-pounding chase through the frontier. Welcome comedy relief is in the hands of I.S. Johar as a grizzled old engineer. It looks like a western and sounds like a western, and the original title Northwest Frontier completes the illusion that we're watching Cowboys and Indians rather than Indians and Moslems. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide

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[Anonymous]

Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee 251
Builder: Jewett Car Company
Year Built: 1917
Seats: 24
Length: 56ft 1in
Width: 8ft 8in
Height: 12ft 6in
Weight: 91000 lbs
Brakes: AMU
Motors: 4 WH 557A5
Control: HLF-28A
Compressor: CP-28
Trucks: Bald 84-30A
Description: Double End / Double Truck / Arch Roof / Steel Combine



Chicago Milwaukee St. Paul & Pacific (Milwaukee Road) X5000
Builder: Miwaukee Road
Year Built: 1929
Length: 73ft 10in
Width: 11ft 5in
Height: 10ft 5in
Weight: 160000 lbs
Brakes: D22 Disc
Trucks: Nystrom 4 Wheel
Description: Dynomometer Car


There’s easily 100 years worth of restoration work at IRM … wanna help?


The interior of this car is much worse than this picture shows


Burlington Northern 5383
Builder: General Electric
Year Built: 1974
Model: U30C
Horsepower: 3000
Length: 67ft 2in
Width: 10ft 4in
Height: 16ft 2in
Weight: 420000 lbs
Brakes: 26L
Engine: 7FDL16
Motors: 6 GE 752
Trucks: Adir 6 Wheel
Description: Diesel-Electric / Universal Series

The BN5383 in the diesel barn for prep work prior to painting


Circuit breaker panel in rear of 5383 cab


Engineer controls in 5383 cab


[:I] A doctor and a lawyer were talking at a party. Their conversation was constantly interrupted by people describing their ailments and asking the doctor for free medical advice. After an hour of this, the exasperated doctor asked the lawyer, "What do you do to stop people from asking you for legal advice when you're out of the office?"
"I give it to them," replied the lawyer, "and then I send them a bill." The doctor was shocked, but agreed to give it a try. The next day, still feeling slightly guilty, the doctor prepared the bills. When he went to place them in his mailbox, he found a bill from the lawyer. [:I]

[Anonymous]

Good morning all. Today, I didn't want to use any pix other than my own, so I'm going through my "stuff" in search of things you maybe haven't seen before (heavy on the maybe) at the IRM.

Toledo & Detroit Railroad 16
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Year Built: 1914
Wheel Arrangement: 4-4-0
Length: 57ft 1in
Width: 10ft 6in
Height: 14ft
Weight: 233700 lbs
Brakes: G-6
Tractive Effort: 18200 lbs
Cylinders: 18x24
Boiler Pressure: 190 psi
Drivers: 67in




The next three pix are of the last running (2004 season) steam engine at th emuseum. We should be back up for the 2007 season after some extension wheel maintenance.

St. Louis-San Francisco Railroad 1630
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Year Built: 1918
Wheel Arrangement: 2-10-0
Length: 71ft
Width: 10ft 3in
Height: 16ft 2in
Weight: 210000 lbs
Brakes: LT
Tractive Effort: 42180 lbs
Cylinders: 24x28
Boiler Pressure: 160 psi
Drivers: 52in


1630 tender


Ah ha! Here’s how to make moving all that coal a little easier!


Lake Superior & Ishpeming 35
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Year Built: 1916

Wheel Arrangement: 2-8-0
Length: 73ft 4in
Width: 10ft 6in
Height: 15ft 8in
Weight: 270000 lbs
Brakes: 6ET
Tractive Effort: 60480 lbs
Cylinders: 26x30
Boiler Pressure: 200 psi
Drivers: 50in


[:I] Two elderly retired phone men are pushing their carts around Walmart when they
collide. The first old guy says to the second guy, "Sorry about that. I'm looking for my wife, and I guess I wasn't paying attention to where I was going."
The second old guy says, "That's OK, It's a coincidence. I'm looking for my wife, too. I can't find her and I'm getting a little desperate."
The first old guy says, "Well, maybe I can help you find her. What does she look like?"
The second old guy says, "Well, she is 27 yrs old, tall, with red hair, blue eyes, long legs, big busted, and is wearing short shorts. What does your wife look like?"
The first old guy says, "Doesn't matter, let's look for yours." [:I]

[siberianmo]

(photo courtesy: www.trainweb.org)

We open at 6 AM on Monday (all times zones!) (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]

SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


We are CLOSED on SUNDAY but this is Sunday Photo Posting Day! So dig through those archives, and share some Classic Trains Pix with us![tup]

Comments are encouraged from the “browsers,” if for no other reason than to show some appreciation for the efforts put forth! Just slip your messages through the mail slots on either set of front doors![tup]


NAME THE CASH REGISTERS! I think we’re going to have to come up with names for our two cash registers (both mechanical) one at each 1/3rd of the bar. So let’s kick that idea ‘round, okay After all, we have Coal Scuttle for the Pig’s Feet Jar “feeding” our Juke, Herr Wurltizer. So, why not a couple of names for the cash boxes So let’s have some ideas, Gents! C’mon, it’s NOT rocket surgery!![swg]

. . . . from Pete “Tilla the Hun” for one of ‘em.


Daily Wisdom

Complaining that his impending golf shot was going to go in the water, a friend offered that Yogi should think positive. His reply, “Okay, I’m positive my shot is going to go in the water.”
(yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear: Southern Pacific arrives Tuesday! This will be the THEME for the DAY!

* Weekly Calendar:


Wednesday: Pike Perspective’s Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and – ENCORE! Saturday


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 06:52:59 (250) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(2) passengerfan Al Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 08:40:31 (250) ENCORE! Saturday - Rock Island’s Arizona Ltd

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 08:47:02 (250) Morning comments

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 09:00:07 (250) ENCORE! Saturday – Ad: SP/RI’s Golden State

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 10:20:16 (250) ENCORE! Saturday – Mentor Village Gazette, Dec 12th, 2005

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 12:14:06 (250) ENCORE! Saturday – Fallen Flag: N&W

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 15:06:16 (250) ENCORE! Saturday – Hotel Ads (1956)

(8) West Coast S Dave Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 15:09:33 (250) Saturday check-in

(9) siberianmo Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 15:45:37 (250) Acknowledgments, etc.

(10) felixg Felix Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 16:30:49 (250) 1st visit

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 17:10:02 (250) [#welcome] felixg!

(12) passengerfan Al Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 17:17:36 (250) ENCORE! Saturday – Rocky Mountain Rocket

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 18:54:44 (250) ENCORE! Saturday – Ad: Rock Island (1949)

(14) West Coast S Dave Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 19:19:08 (250) Somewhat confused Post

(15) ftwNSengineer P Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 20:09:21 (251)

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 20:24:30 (251) Acknowledgments, etc.

(17) felixg Felix Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 21:14:01 (251) 2nd Post

(18) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 22:06:30 (251) Inclusive Post!

(19) felixg Felix Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 22:29:21 (251) 3rd Post

(20) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 22:29:53 (251) ENCORE! Saturday – Classic Juice #1 L&PS

(21) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 22:36:44 (251) ENCORE! Saturday – Classic Steam #2 Alliston Stub

(22) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 00:09:48 (251) Special for felixg

(23) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Feb 2006, 00:15:15 (251) reply to trolleyboy



NOW SHOWING:

The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre
. . . . . Double Features, all of the time . . . . .

. . . Sunday, February 19th thru 25th: Fahrenheit 451 (1966) starring: Oskar Werner, Julie Christie & Cyril Cusack – and – Northwest Frontier (1959) starring: Kenneth More, Lauren Bacall & Herbert Lom.


That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Hey Rob

Just wanted to acknowledge your three Posts before closing up the place. I received your Emails and responded - Thanx![tup]

Appreciate your participation in our Saturday! Encore day. We almost made it through the day without having anyone "slip off the theme!"[swg] Perhaps next Saturday![tup]

Hope to see you for Sunday Photo Posting Day! otherwise, catch ya on Monday!

Since there is no one around - The Bar is Closed 'til Monday morning at 6 AM.

Nite![zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

For: Felix:

Check out the daily SUMMARY - this will help you understand what is going on at the bar. The key to success at this Thread is to read the material - no other way to do it.[tup]

I keep the bar open until the last man can no longer stand![swg]

Again, research PAGE ONE and a few others at the beginning of this Thread - then come back to these later pages - browse BACKWARDS through 5 or 10, that will bring you to a point where you'll figure it out.

Recommend you use Email for "one on one" type situations - thereby freeing up the pages for the Inclusive nature of the bar.

Enjoy![tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

ENCORE ! ENCORE !

One last encore for today Classic steam # 9 originally posted on pg 191. That wraps up the viewing day for today,I'll pop in tomorrow for one stick of photo's for photo day, then I will see you all when the bar re-opens bright and squirrley on Monday.

Rob




CNR Classic Steam #9 Speacial Steam Frieghts on the Niagara Frontier

Thorrold Switchers

Niagara Falls to Thorold and return same day. Originally one morning assignment. Between sept 30,1945,and april 28, 1946 a second switcher was added. Both ran in the mornings,several hours appart. Circa oct 28 1957 this was cut to a single train during the navigation season. Main task was to serve the Ontario Paper company at lock 7 of the Welland Canal. train would also interchange traffic with the NS&T's electric frieght division in Thorold and Merriton.Heaveu Consolidation main locomotive of choice.


The St Thomas Way Freight

Circa april of 1940 , switching extras that left Fort Erie Tues, Thurs,& sat, for Jarvis and return.Re-classed as a way frieght in april of 1945.Frequency doubled and the territory was expanded to St Thomas so train began leaving Ft Erie M,W,Fri and leavung St Thomas Tues,thurs,& Sat. This assignment was handled by a 1600 series wabash class J2 Pacific. In the 50's 1951 on Wabash SW8's 122-127 handled this run.The train carried a CNR caboose and was jointly operated,CNR and Wabash alternated crewing this train every six months.Effective 1953 Wabash with drew their crews for the local swtiching on the St Thomas division in favour of all CNR crews. Served all local industries. CNR operated train with heavy consolidations until dieselized in 1957 wwith SW1200RS's and GP7's.

Welland way freight

Niagara Fall's to Welland way freight or switcher,returnung the same day. Became known as a way frieght in april of 1945. A joint CNR/Wabash service ( ie CN could handle the Wabash cars ), although this was infrequent as the line handled very little Waba***raffic. Main jop was to service the Cyanamid plant in Port Robinson. Train only operated as far as Port Robinson after 1959. Consolidations in the 2300/2400 series were the power of choice,dieselized after 1958 by SW1200RS's and GP7's.

Enjoy more later.

Rob








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[trolleyboy]

Hi Felix nice to see you in again. Drop me an email through the forum and we'll chat. I;m certainly not the worlds best model railroader but if I can I'll see if i can't help you out.I know of at least one museum member who uses North American prototype live catenery in HO ,so i can always check with him as well for you.I don't imagine that O scale catenery is any harder to set up than HO just bigger.

Rob

[trolleyboy]

ENCORE ! ENCORE ! CLASSIC STEAM # 2 THE ALLISTON SUB
This is another true blast from the past , first found on page 163. Enjoy again.

Good evening again gentlemen. I figure that with the unpleasantness hapening on our fare frum this evening that I would through in another piece for my barn.This will be the abrieviated tale of the Alliston Subdivision. Today this subdivision still caters some auto trains for the new car plants but is mostly known for it's steam powered resident the South Simcoe Railway thatruns steam excursions in the summer.Between Tottingham and Beeton Ontario.

CNR Steam The Alliston Subdivision Trains


Beeton to Collingwood Mixed Train

Alliston - Team track ( frieght shed plus stock pens )Peter Thompson & Sons,Gibson feed Mill , coal and lumber yard. team Track shipments included tobacco,potaotoes, and when in season Christmas trees.

Everett - team track ( served Alderson Coal, Gibson's elevator and grist mill )

Glencairn - team track ( local produce & animals )

Avening- team track ( same as above )

Creemore- team track ( frieght shed lcl , grain elevator, cattle pen ,Peter Thompson planning mill shipped from freight shed ) H. P. Shepard & Sons grain mill spur.

Glen Huron - team track ( Hamilton Brother's shipped / recieved feed , lumber , hardware and coal )

Duntroon - team track ( grain elevator , cattle ramp )

Nottawa - team track ( cattle pens ) Stock day once per week , later served by Meaford way feight.

Untill the time table change in april 1930 the second mixed train M393/392 leaving Beeton in the evening returning to Collingwood the following morning.After the early 1940's only mixed trains M391/394 were run on this sub. In the 30's and 40's the power was the ancient moguls 593,607,& 633. Once they were retired in the early 50's custmary power was by ten wheeler's 1287,1207,1358,1360,1363,1364,1390,&1397. Once in a while Allandale mogul's 87 or 88 would handle these trains their last runs were in 1955 however.Thes trains usually had one or two old wood coache/combines for the passenger compontent and handled mail a all the station's until 1955.

It was jokingly sadi that on the Alliston subdivision, trains went 20mph foreward,20mpf sideways and 20mph up and down due to the rural nature of the sub and it's 56 lbs rail ! All old ex Canadain Northern 10 whelers and moguls were used on this line due to it's delicate light rail.The only regular non mixed passenger train to ply this line was in the form of train 661 from Hamilton this train ran through to collingwood normally powered by D-1CNR's infamous first diesel powered doodle bug which was more off than not out of service and replaced by a light pacific or 10 wheelers.The mixed trains would have an old wooden baggage and a coach all of ex CnoR fame.


Rob

[trolleyboy]

ENCORE ! ENCORE ! CLASSIC JUICE # 1 THE L& PS

A definate blast from the past the original inaugeral Classic Juice from way back on page 116


The London and Port Stanley Railway or L&PS




The L&PS was originally chartered by the Great Western Railway in 1853. It's purpose to run freight ie coal to the cities of London, St Thomas, Elgin & Middlesex ( all in southwestern ontario )Originally built to the great western's 51/2 foot guage. Fears of the Great Westerns practice of monopoply pricing the cities purchased the road and leased it back to the Great western to operate for 20 years thus limiting price increases.


In 1872 this steam road's lease was up and also the great western as well ( swallowed by the greed of it's owners ) A second 20 year lease was granted to theLake Erie and Detroit river Line( this became the Pere marquette) They ran as a mostly coal hauling road with summer passenger trains to the beaches. As the second Lease was comming to an end the Ontario government was activly pursueing a Scheme to build a province wide electric interurban net work under the ospices of one Sir Adam Beck ( London on MPP and father of the hydro electric commission.Indeed the hydro plants in Niagara falls are still Adam Beck 1 and 2 )


In 1913 when the second lease was up the L&PS was electrified new 80lbs rail and a 1500vDC system and catenery was strung. Five steel motor cars with monitor roof were ordered from Jewett in Ohio. 59 feet long 92,900 lbs cars with 4 125hp GE traction motors. cars 2,4,6,8 &10.Three wooden trailers non powered but with mu controls for train operation were ordered from Preston car and coach in Preston on. cars # 1,3,5. The L&PS interchanged with CN and CP in London and with the Michigan central in St Thomas.


Later in 1915 three electric boxcabs electrified the frieght operations these were built by Preston and numbered L1,2 and L3. Each was capable of moveing 50 loaded coal cars or other general merchandice ferried from conneat ohio. in 1917 two more steel motors were purchased 72 feet long #12 and 14. For forty years the L&PS ran electric service only loosing money twice. Once in 1933 the next time in 1953. Hourly service was run on the 40 mile round trip road with three to 6 car passenger trains common. All cars were geared and capable of 70 miles an hour and mostly ran at those speeds as the L&PS was 90% private ROW with a few under/overpasses for hwy 3 etc.


In 1956 Ontario Hydro was begining to change the power system in the area from25 to 60 cyclesand the city of London which still owned the ROW couldn't afford the rectifier upgrades as passenger numbers were decreasing. As a result in Feb 1957passenger service north and south of St Thomas was ended.frieght operations were dieselized in 1960 although up till 1963 electric service still ran on in the express service London to St Thomas.


In 65 the city discontinued ownership and all power was shut off. Todays port stanley terminal operates whats left of this line in their excursion service. Several cars are still with us. Our Museum has #8 and trailer # 3. We also have locomotive L 2. The Delson Museum in Quebec has # 10 & # 12. And the Elgin county museum in St Thomas has # 14 and freight engine L 1. Photo's of these can be found in our Museums website my rail images account and in several hard bound books. Hope everyone enjoyed. Rob