"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[trolleyboy]

Okay Part 2 somewhat boring but this is the BC Rail Loco roster as of 1993.

10 slugs #401-410 built by BC Rail 1981-1987 ( from RS-2's )
1 S-13 #502 built by MLW 1959
25 RS-18's #601-613 built by MLW 1957-1966
#617,626
#627-630
2 C420's #631-632 built by Alco 1966 ( Ex Lehigh and Hudson river )
8 M420W's #640-647 built by MLW 1973
8 M420B's #681-688 built by MLW 1973
7 SD40-2's #736-742 built by EMD 1975 ( EX Kennecott Copper )
8 SD40-2's #743-750 built by EMD 1978 ( Ex Onieda & Western )
10 SD40-2's #751-762 built by GMD 1980
5 SD40-2's #763-767 built by GMD 1985
3 C425's #802,803 built by ALCO 1964 { EX Erie Lackawanna )
#811
11 C40-8M #4601-11 built by GE 1990 ( Part of CN order )

Electric Locomotives

7 GF6C's #6001-6007 Built by GMD 1983-1984

Stored servicable

7 M630's #700-704,713-716 built MLW 1963-1966

Rob

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Leon, I'll take that cad Nick so lovingly prepared for me, and heck I think some of the lobster thermador too,along with a Kieth's thank you.

Tom Good all round show on the BCR / PGE [tup][tup] I'm glad that it flicked a couple switches . Sunday would be fine for a layout tour for those interested,one last bar run couldn't hurt either [;)]. Sorry bout the type -o spelling's never been my strong suit, that and the one finger typing likley doesn't help either <grin> Heather and I live for the Brit comes over here too be it Python or others always catches us the right way. [swg]

BK Iknow that you didn't want a big deal made of it and Tom did say it well, but you have our condolances as well, I won't mention it again as per your wishes. Good to hear that you stuck to your guns as fasr as the dump truck full of money offer you received, I think you shall be very happy in your Alberta solitude.

I have concidered jumping over to Sir Tom's other thread, when I have popped over theinfo of coarse is grand,gets quite the numbetr of undesirables or at least did, reminds me off another passenger thread poor Tom started on the main "trains" forum last year , which I tried to help keep afloat way too many AH's there though and both Tom and I took a powder, I tend to be a once burned twice shy kind of person.


Pete & Nick Hey guys thanks for the [tup]'s on the Tumbler post. I too felt much sadness at those scrapping shots all the more so considering that those locamotives were not all that old being built in 1983-84.Nick I remember pretty much resitiong the parrot scene and many bits from the Life of Brian and the Holy Grail with my friends in highschool , that and bits from Alou Alou and Are you Being Served as well ( both are still rerunning here too BTW )

Lars What can I say, as BK put it, it sure sounds like a soap opera "As The Stmahce Turns " I should think. Are we sure that these imbeciles are even from this planet, next time they show up I'd look for a large silver disk parked in front of your house. I'm wondering when Allan Funt is going to jump out of the bushes and say's smile you're on candid camera , it just can't be real.Anyhow I'm glad to see that your sence of humour is at least somewhat still intact through all this.


Rob

[siberianmo]

Good Evening Gents!

Just a few words before checking out . . .

Pete Was wonderin' if we'd see you this day . . . we get spoiled having you as a regular, so when you miss a day, well it just isn't the same 'round here![tup]

I haven't a clue with regard to why the PGE/BCR decided to go with "Cariboo," however, I'll do a bit of checking around to see what I come up with.

Doug Great fini***o the series - enjoyed the tale, fer sure fer sure! The joke on the other hand - well aside from it being rather o-l-d, it's awfful as in b-a-d![swg]

Now, seems that we're mixing a bit of fantasy with real life concerning that train for the bar. Vito's "terms" are a bit demanding, to say the least - so perhaps we'd be wiser to steer clear of that source of funding. I would think with YOUR influence, perhaps we could cut a deal with your group for "free parking!"

Thanx for the round! Glad to see that the "sawbuck" was printed on both sides! Never know when it comes from "jokers" such as you![swg]

Pete Glad you enjoyed the BC Railways stuff - it was indeed a fascinating road and I'm glad to have had the chance to experience some of it. Regarding the Alaskan trip, you bet it is a fantastic trip coming up and it can't get here soon enough for us![tup]

Monty Python has always been a favorite of ours and they just "tickle" the heck out of the both of us. Great humor and absolutely silly stuff. Love it![tup] I've put a "reservation" in for the set on the URL . . . it will be a great addition to our DVD library.[swg]

Before I check out - try one of these Ballentine Ales and you tell US what you think of it![tup][swg]

I've been seeing Nick for the past couple of hours, peeking in at us. Hope he responds to the B'day request either here or by Email..

Oh yeah - for those who have requested selections for the movies at the Gazette they HAVE been added! Thanx .... [tup]

Leon the Night Man now has the bar!

Boris Ring the bell, and set 'em up Leon!

Nite![zzz]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

<Cleese> `Ello Miss
<Palin> what do you mean "Miss"?
<Cleese> I`m sorry,I ave a cold
dramatic pause
<Cleese> I wi***o register a complaint.............

Sorry,just too good to resist.......the Pythons were an integral part of my adolescence and worthy ( if rather more satirical ) sucessors to Milligans `Goon Show`--indeed,if pressed,I could probably recite most of the parrot sketch verbatim from memory--an invaluable skill in todays cut and thrust employment market..............
As someone who has spent most of their working life in various aspects of the service industry I also have a large soft spot for `Fawlty Towers`-so true to life it`s scary..
Right-enough of this idle chit-chat,there`s fi***o fry,but first,some catch-ups
[4:-)][oX)]TOM-a big green bottle if you please-better save the rum for sunday,a Keiths for you and ROB and poisons of choice for all our other good buddies [^]
A fine piece of work on PGE/BCR-seems to have brought the chaps out of their shells as well-obviously a more popular road than one might have thought--my contribution will be a couple of quite nice pix,which I will forward by tomorrow ( also one from the N.A.R,for completeness).
Something of a bitter-sweet feel to the pix of B.C.R loco`s being dismantled,nothing lasts forever but still.......
R.E B/Day-more than happy to do it on mon. instead,bearing in mind that sun. is your (well earned ) day of rest,however,you`re the boss so will go with the flow.
Attempted to send a couple of tracks from the band as E-Mail attachments earlier for onward distribution to any interested parties but seems they take 40+ MB per minute of playing time and machine copped a fit of the vapours so you will just have to wait for the global tour...........(in yer dreams hippy)
Light and lively does it on the gazette [tup]-am starting to build the framework--whats the name of the village at the end of the branch ?-minor detail
Now I have a take on `Yogi` it all makes a lot more sense-sounds like a real nice guy-as you say,straight-up,grounded and generally `kosher`
BK-Welcome back-absent friends,always missed-glasses raised-nuff said
ROB-todays E-Mails deserve posting-go on-you know you want to.........
nice addendum on the B.C.R/P.G.E--It is indeed possible that Boris served an apprenticeship under Abiatha Swelter,the "slug-like illness of fat"-head chef and despot of the great kitchens of Gormenghast castle ( brilliantly portrayed by Richard Griffiths in the T.V adaptation) until rescued by our good selves.........
Shrubbery---"We are the knights who say " Ni " and we DEMAND a shrubbery" ( sorry guys,it`s that sort of night-just back from auditioning a new singer for #3 band-bit hyper)
DOUG-a splendid tale,well told-nice one [^] -That joke would translate well into Welsh [swg]-now,the `Our Place` train-I`ll do the cooking as long as I get to drive once in a while-deal ?-if I ever get the band over there we`ll use it instead of a tour-bus (just like Gram Parsons with the Flying Burrito Bros way back in the day......)
CM3-another nice view on the B.C.R/P.G.E--found mountain stage site by the way-havn`t managed to get any music yet,but know where to look-nice one,cheers mate [tup]
AL-reliable as ever-a touchstone for `Our Place`-good stuff
Suprised that nobody has mentioned that the B.C.Rail Starlight dinner train stock now forms part of Ontario Northlands Polar Bear Express summer excursion service ( Cochrane-Moosonee & return )-usually 2x G.P38/2`s ,B-Unit , plus 12-18 cars,depending on demand.

Right-time to get cooking-lets keep it simple tonight:-
We have French Onion soup with garlic croutons in the soup kettle,
Smoked mackerel pate with wholemeal toast as a starter,
Atlantic Cod in beer batter ( for PETE & ROB )
Moules mariniere with a chilled chablis ( for TED,just in case he`s passing)
DOUGS special flame grilled king prawns
Lobster thermidor with all the trimmings for [4:-)][oX)]TOM + Carol
Cleddau Bass in Rum,Lime & Ginger sauce for LARS,AL,BK,CM3 & RUSS
all served with a full range of side dishes and extras.

Right,thats me done for tonight-big one tomorrow ( first showcase for Hoochie Coochie band -after only 2 rehearsals-could be fun ) as well as a full show for my own `Riptide` band-will try to look in afterwards but please accept apologies in advance if things are a touch garbled-have a good one guys,catch you all later,moonlight mile time for me
[4:-)][oX)]TOM-drinks for the boys before I go--be good y`all,nick [C=:-)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all

A pint of Bathams and Round for the fine postsyesterday and today. And of course put me down for The Fish and Chips. But will H&H hand over the galley to [C=:-)] Nick[?].

Sorry for not being in yesterday but I have read the posts.

TOM Fascinating Canadian Railways of the Past[tup][tup][tup]. It is unusual for a U.K railfan to see how recent some of the long new lines were constructed. The BC looks one of the worlds railway treasures. I hope the passenger trains being re introduced as specials is a success and I hope they are not priced so high that an ordinary railfan can get a ride behind the Royal Hudson in such great scenery.
I can remember a Railway Magazine of the 70s that had the Hudson on the cover and an article about inside. A mavellous loco.

Why was the express spelt CARIBOO?

The Tumbler Ridge line was very interesting, many thanks ROB for the extra info,looking forward to the next parts. They were sad photos of the locos being scrapped. At least one was saved.

Many thanks AL for the DRCs. was that the longest distance worked by them.

RUSSEL good photo of #745. Is the loco visible from the Amtrak platforms at Union Station do you know [?]( just In case the Amtrak from St Louis is running late).

TED Great to see you [tup] we will have to have a chat about Irish Railways[yeah].

DOUG Thanks for sharing the Dynamite story really Excellent stuff. YES keep the jokes coming[:D]. My mate has sent me Blonde Joke of the Year but I dare not post it.

BK Good to see you ,what is a Foamer[?].

LARS How do you keep your cool with the guys from the insurance[?].
By the way what sort of ale is Ballentyne.

NICK. Great Post. As well as Tolkien, Dvorak was apperently a railfan. I read that when in the U.S he worked near a station and one time sent a servant to get a loco number and gave in a right roasting when he brought the number on the tender.
There was some private owner wooden wagons stored at remote siding in Rugby long after they were used, why they were there or what happen to them I dont know.

Well Tom time for me to hand over the puter. What a fantastic trip to Alaska you have planned[wow][yeah].
Glad you are liking the Monty Pythons were they really made that long ago.
I was lucky I got to see the CAN-AM before the turnstile was installed[:-^]. PETE>

[siberianmo]

Birthday Planning Special Notice

As noted in our Birthday Watch List! we have THREE customers with Birthday's this month.

So, here's the "deal" - each person will be recognized ON THE APPROPRIATE DAY with the [bday] greetings from one and all . . .

In absence of anything to the contrary, ONE DAY THIS MONTH IS TO BE DESIGNATED for a BASH for ALL THREE!

For those involved, PLEASE communicate with me by Email with a primary & secondary date & time for your B'day BASH and I'll try to work out a mutually agreed upon schedule for all three.

So, this coming Sunday NICK will be RECOGNIZED on his Natal Day! However, the BASH will be at a later date … .<phew>


Thanx!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

Birthday Planning Special Notice

[Anonymous]

Good eveningTom and friends! I'll have a bottemless draught and an order of fish-n'-chips please! Here's a sawbuck for a round, and please convert whatever is left into quarters for our tunes tonight. Yeah, I agree, this bar has a REAL need for a full size trainset, and I agree the price seems too good to be true. Probably because, just like horses, they cost so much to maintain! I still want the trainset though, so if Vito can help us ...why not? As for keeping it at the IRM, as Rob and Lars have suggested, we would need to raise about $100 per linear trainset footage for storage. IRM's first rule concerning equipment, is that there has to be track to accomodate it, or they would have a lot more equipment than they already do. Great 2nd part on the BCR Mr. Tom, by the way. I sure enjoyed the picture of the Whistler Northwind winding its way through such scenic country. Very nice.

Did everyone get the April Trains issue? Great articles on diners from the past! And now, here's the last part of my dynamiter story:

True Tails of the Rails from Dec. 1939 Railroad Magazine

Dan Boyle was at his rolltop desk in Livingston, gnawing his nails over the situation, when the door opened to admit a big ranchman. “I’m Nick Rovis of Townsend, thirty miles southwest of Helena,” said the newcomer. “Look at this!” Tossing a spur rowel on the desk, he gingerly unwrapped three sticks of dynamite, and went on: “My two boys were out one windy day and found a stranger eating his lunch in a haystack. The gent threw away the rest of his lunch, said ‘Hello,’ and walked around the stack to where he had a horse. Next thing they knew he was galloping for the hills. My boys discovered the spur rowel and the dynamite in the hay.” Mr. Boyle picked up the rowel, delicately engraved “Rovis, you got something. That so and so must be planning to blow up our bridge over the Missouri.”

The super had photographs made of the rowel so that police could show them around. One of the first men to see the pictures was Hank Munroe, a stableman at Livingston. “That there rowel belongs to Ike Gravelle,” said Hank, “who got out of Deer Lodge a couple of months ago.”

“Who’s Ike Gravelle?” The question went around like fire in dry grass. Isaac Gravelle was thirty-two years old, a French-Canadian who had been released from the state prison at Deer Lodge on July 16th, the day the first extortion letter was mailed, after serving six years for grand larceny.

The dynamiter: Ike Gravelle


At Helena, Chief Travis sent for Myron Shanks, a drayman who had been a friend of Gravelle’s. Shanks came. He was whitefaced and nervous, twisting his cap, hardly able to talk. “Yes, sir, I seen Ike lately,” he stuttered. “You remember the dynamite that was stolen from Holter’s warehouse? Ike got me to haul it with my team.” “Where to?” Shanks gulped. “I said I would’t tell.” “That makes you an accomplice. Open up one of the cells, boys!” “Wait, Mr. Travis! I dropped some of the stuff at Blosburg and some at Bearmouth. That’s all I know, honestly, except that Ike is hiding out some place in Priest Pass.”

Travis whistled. Priest Pass was long miles beyond Mullan; the man certainly covered ground. When he heard this, Chief McFettridge called in Jim Mc Keown, a veteran Indian fighter, and Frank Latta of Bozeman, a western pioneer, and former Sheriff John Dunn of Carbon County, and Burt Reynolds, a young railroad detective who was a splendid marksman. They constituted the best posse that could be found for a man-hunt in compact Western style.

Threatening clouds made the night of October 17th dark as coal tar when the four men camped at Birdeye, near the mouth of Mullan Tunnel. In any direction they could only see a few feet. Reynolds hooked up a telegraph set and began to get reports from up and down the line. In a few minutes there came a message which keyed him up six notches. “Calling McKeown – come to Blossburg – man planting dynamite.” “Tell him we’re riding through the tunnel,” McKeown boomed.

The men rolled up their blankets, saddled and drove their horses into the tunnel mouth, hardly blacker than the night outside, where the clank of hooves echoed sharply on the brick walls. Bumping into each other and the masonry, they somehow rode through in a hour to get a report from a breathless track-walker “I heard gravel crunching close by and then it stopped,” said the track-walker. “It was pitch dark. I crept ahead and spotted a man kneeling by the track. He saw me and fired, but he missed. I dropped to the track and answered the shots, but the guy bolted into the brush and I heard his horse galloping away.” “No dynamite?” “He didn’t have time, I guess.”

Lighted matches disclosed the horse tracks, one front hoof with a peculiar squared toe, showing that the rider had aimed for the summit of the pass. Guessing at the trail, the posse rode blindly ahead, only to lose their way near the mountain top; but as the sky began to lighten with undersea blue they picked up a clear lead towards Priest Pass. All morning they rode after the mysterious horse with the square toe; and in the afternoon, as they rounded a clump of tamarack, they came suddenly to a board shack and a corral where a man was watering horses.

Four guns followed every movement he made. The man seemed dazed, but when McKeown snatched away his revolver and Latta was roping his hands in back, the fellow swore at them in corrosive French until McKeown ordered him to lock his mouth. “Ike Gravelle,” said Mac, “we ought to be digging your grave, but we’re only taking you to Helena.” The man was contemptuous. “You got nothin’ on me,” he sneered. “Me, I am not Ike Gravelle.”

But he wore just a single rowel, and the horse with the square toe stood panting in the corral, streaked with sweat. Gravelle’s unshaven face was square, his dark hair was snarled, and the unruly black eyes showed a hasty temper. McKeown saw how the suspect had been able to escape by riding many miles – he was built like a dray horse. Near a ranch house some miles from Helena they met the regular posse, with Superintendent Dan Boyle, and got a deluge of cheers. “Sure, that’s Ike Gravelle,” one or two men verified. “You’re crazy!” he screamed. “The whole bunch of you!”

On seeing the rowel which Boyle took from his pocket, however, Gravelle seemed to shift gears mentally. In a lightnig movement he took the spur from his boot and tried to kick it into a straw pile, but he was not quick enough. The two were mates. And now, with Gravelle under lock, his friend Shanks remembered a few other facts. “It was Harvey Whitten’s idea,” he accused. Whitten was serving eighty years at Deer Lodge for murder. “He wrote the first letter and Ike sneaked it out of jail in the winding of a horsehair cane.” It was the tight binding of hair that had given the paper its look of having been wired to a broomstick.

Gravelle was tried for attempted extortion and was sentenced to ten years at Deer Lodge. Stadt and Chavez were released. After some dispute the reward of $6500 was divided amoung McKeown, Lata, Dunn, Reynolds and a couple of Helena police. For the first time in two months the railroad men of the Rocky Mountain Division could enjoy life. But the drama was not yet over. Gravelle was brought back to Helena in August, 1904, to be tried again, this time for burglary of the Holter warehouse. When court opened the crowd gaped at him. They thought the prisoner looked smouldering and dull as he sat by the table in his gray convict suit. He may have been smouldering, but he was not dull. Instantly, like a frog with a fly, he whisked a gun from one of the deputies and made a leap for the door.

“Stop him!” a dozen voices cried. A swarm of men pursued Gravelle down this street and up that, till they cornered him in the grounds of the Govenor’s mansion. From the measure of hatred in his face, they saw he meant to use the gun. And he did. As the crowd pushed back like a receding wave, he shot a deputy point-blank and then put the gun to his own temple and executed himself. It was characteristic of Ike Gravelle to make the one grandstand play left to make.

Thirty-five years passed. And today, though Dan Boyle is dead, after serving for years on the Montana Public Service Commission, Sheriff Robertson and Bill Dean, the engineer, are very much alive and are still living in Livingston. You could recognize Bill by the fuzz of his white hair. One of the four horsemen, Frank Latta, is now living in the Gallatin Valley, where he wrangles dude-ranch cows in the summer. In a vault at St. Paul the Northern Pacific keeps the payoff bag, still filled with iron washers, so it can be brought out when old-timers talk about the half-crazed Ike Gravelle, who dreamed of blowing up a railroad.

[:I] Three men are captured by a tribe while exploring the Amazon forest. They are tied to stakes and the chief says to the first man, "You have been caught in our jungles. You must choose death or Oogie Boogie." The first guy replies, "I don't want to die, I choose Oogie Boogie." All of the male warriors erupt into screaming chants, run up to the guy, bend him over and each of them have their way. The chief approaches the next guy and repeats, "You have been caught in our jungles. You must choose death or Oogie Boogie." The second guy has a wife and children and reluctantly says, "I must choose Ooogie Boogie." Again the sadistic ritual is performed by all of the warriors of the village on the poor man. At last the chief turns to the last remaining man and says, "You have been caught in our jungles. You must now choose death or Oogie Boogie." Without a pause the man yells in the chief's face, "I choose death!" "Oh my son," replies the chief, "you are very brave. Death it shall be...BY OOGIE BOOGIE!!!" [:I]

[siberianmo]

All of our regulars know about the Birthday Watch List .... however, it needs to be posted repeatedly, just as a reminder regarding who is coming up next for the Birthday Bash ......


[bday] 2006 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST [bday]
(rev. Jan 30th):

March 5th (Nick – 46) Next up!
March 13th (Doug – 50)
March 31st (Lars – 66) Just added!
April 18th (Al - 64)
May 18th (Tom - 68)
May 27th (Dave - 47)
June 3rd (John) – 47) Legion of the Lost
June 24th (Dan - 44) Legion of the Lost
July 30th (Russell – 35)
August 11th (Pete – 55
August 16th (Ted – 68)
September 8th (Rob - 35)
October 18th (BK – 66)
December 29th (CM3 – 60)


Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year). Corrections too!

NICK WHEN do you want to have YOUR B'day Bash!


Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!



NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES!

[siberianmo]

G’day!

Well, well, well, an afternoon with four customers! That hasn’t happened very often! Good to see Russell – BK – Rob ‘n Lars all stop by.[tup] Thanx to 3 of the 4 for recognizing the Canadian Railways of the Past – BCR! Appreciate it . . .

Sorry, Russell but here’s the “deal” – soft drinks cost five bucks if that’s all one orders; otherwise they are 50 cents a can with a food order. Coffee on the other hand is free – unless that’s all one wants, then it too is five bucks. [yeah] I know – outrageous, but that’s life in the Village![swg]

Thanx for the info on the SP train in KCity to make the trip – but I’m a bit turned off with our Amtrak on-time-performance lately and would hate to book that round trip only to find there’s no time at all to check out the display. That’s happened to me twice in less than a year.

Rob Appreciate the supplemental info on the British Columbia Railways – one thing though – its CARIBOO not Caribou – that’s the “official” BCR/PGE spelling! Should check to see if this is a Tweeetable offense! I’d have nailed three of you today![swg]

BK ‘n Lars I know why I appreciate you guys so much – you haven’t got a hang up with speaking out when you detect something not quite right. I’m like that too (really!) and whether one likes it or not, there are times when support is very much appreciated. Thanx![tup][tup][tup]

BK I know you don’t want attention drawn to you and your personal life – so why in blue blazes did you tell us[?][?] So, speaking on behalf of our guys – sympathies to you and yours. I know you said it was to segway into why you’ve been gone – but once the ‘cat is out of the bag’ that’s it, Mate![swg]

Lars As the old Judge up in the backwoods of Maine used to say, “Ahre, you Sh----ing me[?]” This cannot be happening – it has to be made up. Ain’t no way there are people in business THAT stupid. Then again, perhaps there are and they all live where I used to live! What does THAT tell ya[?][swg]

BK Good deal on making that decision regarding retirement! I concur with the “feeling,” been there ‘n done that. As Lars described his situation, that was pretty much mine too when it came time. Strictly a personal decision of mine and one that was easy to make. Didn’t leave with anything other than “thanx for the memories” kinds of feelings. Hope the same applies to you.

Rob Why not set up something for Sunday morning for a “tour” of your model RR[?] We’ll be in town and unless it would interfere with something you have going on at home – we could watch! Oooooooooops, I mean – checking out the trains would be a nice way to pass the time.[swg] Isn’t it great just thinking about how close the Rendezvous really is!![?][?]

Okay guys, I know that I’ve probably fallen short with all the comments – but I gotta get going. So enjoy the evening – and let’s hope there’s a few “takers” on the Fish ‘n Chips – otherwise, this idea may go the way of the “inclusive INDEX’s.”

Boris Ring the bell – drinks on BK![tup]


Later![tup]


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!

Those who acknowledge the other guy, get acknowledged!

[LoveDomes]

Hello Tom and Gents at the Bar!

Set ‘em up on me, here take the twenty and save the Lars Box for later on. I’ll have a sub sandwich today – the usual of course. Subs – hero’s – grinders – hogies – all the same, eh[?] Wonder how and why that happened – pretty much regionalized at that. As you know, we call ‘em hero’s in this part of the world. A frosty bottle of Ballantine Ale with a cold mug should work.

Very, very good work with the Canadian Railways of the Past series! A four-[tup] salute to you![tup][tup][tup] The BC Railways is a fascinating read and there surely is quite a bit of nostalgia crammed in it for many. Anyone who has been fortunate enough to travel that route from North Vancouver up to Prince George (or in reverse order) has surely experienced one fine piece of rail travel.[tup] Thanks for bringing it back, if only for a short time.

That INDEX of yours looks as if it took a bit of time to compile. But then again, my guess is you keep at it as needed in order to avoid the “starting from scratch” approach. When one looks at all of the posts you’ve provided, well – guess there’s little doubt over just who is keeping this thread running and how much effort it really takes. You have my admiration and support for what you do here.[tup]

Gentlemen, there never seems to be a dull moment around the house these days and weeks. We’ve gone from disaster to trauma to annoyance to anger to resolve to anger to resolve to …. whatever stage we’re in at the moment. Another day, another visit from the former insurance company. This time two guys. One guy was good cop, the other not so good. It wound up with me calling the real cops on my cell phone, right in front of them. It was either that, or they’d have been buried in the excavation pit! So, stay tuned.

They had the audacity to tell me that since the flooding occurred while under terms of their company policy, they had the right to inspect the situation. Apparently either or both of them didn’t know or care about the “up front settlement” in the form of the check that I received and cashed from their company. Needless to say, it appears this matter will just not go away. What in the world is there to inspect? The damaged goods have long been removed or discarded from the scene of the flooding. Further, with the place looking like a construction site, who needs more interlopers? The cops agreed with me and they were told to depart the property. Something else, huh[?]

Hey Doug that train idea is fantastic. Do you suppose we could find an appropriate place to store it at your museum in Illinois[?] This has to be purchased for the bar – no doubt about it (or no doot aboot it, for Rob up in Canada![swg]). Had I know about it BEFORE I cashed that insurance check, I could’ve signed it over toward the purchase![swg]

Is it too late to rescind my “vote’ for retention of those things called “jokes”[?] Just wondering …..

BK Good to see you are back at the bar. You seemed to have found a comfortable place for that new stool or yours and it “fits” quite well.[swg]

Making the decision to retire can be a traumatic thing for many. It was easy for me in that I knew that life at sea was beginning to take a toll on my changing and aging body. Irregular meals and sleep has a way of catching up with the best of ‘em – even me. When I made my decision, it was strictly my own and not for any other reason. I had just run out the string and it was time to go. The decision made my wife and others in the family happier, but it was for me that I did it. So, I applaud you for not being swayed by that “offer you can’t refuse” approach. Didn’t you do that once before, if I recollect[?] Anyway, wise move and much good luck with the tomorrow’s to come.[tup][tup]

Good readings on the past few pages and I’ve made it through all the posts![wow] Appreciate the continuing well wishes directed my way, even the astounded ones![swg] It’s been like that.

Looks as if I have to get a move on, as we’ve got to keep an appointment at the lawyer’s office (he’ll be late) and then get a few other things taken care of.

I caught those “slights” mentioned by BK and I agree the guys should surely know better – and they probably do. Most likely in too much of a hurry to take the time to check out what’s right in front of them. Happens.

Nice work, Rob with your follow-on![tup][tup] Hey! How come we never see you over at Tom's "other thread[?] You could surely get some mileage out of that work you put out here. Why not[?] It would also show the "boss" a bit more support for what he's trying to do and that is get us some new blood.

Set ‘em up one more time, Tom and if you need more money, take it from the “box!”[tup]


Until the next time!

Lars

[trolleyboy]

ENCORE ! ENCORE ! as seen originally on pg 262

PART 1 BC RAIL TUMBLER RIDGE SUB

Completed in 1983 to tap the coal resorses of the highgrade Tumbler Ridge Coal Field ,eighty miles away on the east side of the Rockey Mountains. The Tumbler division leaves the BCR mainline at Wakely, mile 537.2 on the Chetwynd subdivision. Wakely was named after the BC railways chief engineer, that president and CEO Mac Norris brouight out from the CPR. Wakely left the BCR and returned to CP to complete or at least start the Rogers Pass tunnel project in 1975.

From the jct switch at Wakely, the line crosses to the north bank of the Parsnip river and follows it upstream to the Table river. Between Table and Whitford siding s the line reaches it's maximum eastern gradient of 1.5% as it climbs the 5.6 mile long Table MTN tunnel.

Between the Table and Wolverine tunnels the railway is located in a high alpine valley at 3815 feet altitude, in which the headwaters of the Sukunka River flows. Once through the 3.7 mile long Wolverine Tunnel, it's a steady 1.2% downgrade to the crossing of the Murray River outdside the townsite of Tumbler Ridge.

There were two coal loadouts on the line, one for the Bullmoose mine at Teck, mile 69.6 and the other for the Quintette mine at Quintette, mile 82.3. The Railway has a small shop at Murray mile 73.3, where running repairs were preformed on the electric locomotives. Helpers consisting of two sets of GM / ASEA electrics ran out of Murray and coupled on behind the coal train cabooses at the loadouts. They would pu***he loaded trains up to the top of the southbound 1.2% grade, often cutting off inside the Wolverine tunnel !

The Wolverine tunnel at mile 43.6 to 47.3, is the eastern most of the two long tunnels that bring the rails under the Hart range to the Tumbler Coal Fields. One of the cheif reasons for the electrification iof this line was the two long tunnels. Diesles would have required an umence expendature of ca***o ventilate the tunnels, the electrics did not, also at 6000 hp the electrics did the wirk of two of the most powerfull diesels of the time.The Wolverine tunnel had additional problems, hot springs seep from the rock strata through which the tunnel was drilled. The sulpher in the springs corodes the copper wires of the overhead catenery so aluminum wires had to be strung throuigh the tunnels.


Rob

[BudKarr]

Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!

A fine day at the bar and some well done postings from our Captain, Doug, Al, CM3 and Rob from last night. I am sure I have missed someone, my apologies, as I am browsing with two screens – one on the bar the other preparing this on my WP.

Must say that I am chagrined over the loss of the BC Rail organization. Now that I am so close to what used to be, it diminishes just a bit to know that such a fine rail journey is no longer available. Undoubtedly those engaged in the “rail cruises” will, or have, put together itineraries along that route. However, what could possible compare or compete with those BC Rail RDCs[?] Listen to me, and I am not a qualified foamer!<grin>

Captain Tom, it is a tad early for the hard stuff, so how about one of those mugs of hot java, a splash of something interesting if you please, and I will settle for 2 of those great looking turnovers in the pastry case – apple is fine, thanks!

I left you with our trip down the mountainside to go marketing – or so I thought. Actually, we did accompli***he replenishment of the food locker (sailor talk for our Captain!) and then some. While in town, we met up with some folks by prearrangement with my intended and had a rousing good time at a local bistro. I think this place will fit in quite well with the plans I have for tomorrow and all of them to come.

As is the case in life, one never knows just what lurks around that proverbial corner. Awaiting us back at the chalet were two phone messages – one each. Hers: death in the family – mine: death in the family. Can you believe that[?] She: lost a rather close aunt. Me: a nephew, lost in combat. Rather not delve into any details. I mention these accountings not for any condolences, but simply to explain the absence. We covered quite a bit of ground these past several days and none of it was for pleasure. Please, gentlemen, the less said the better. Thank you.

Ah, there is more. Awaiting me, once we returned to the chalet was an overnight mailing from my company. Inside, an offer that was intended to sway me from the future I thought I would never have. I must tell you that the decision was absolutely easy for me to make – no thank you came out immediately. She is still smiling. We have discussed disconnecting the phone and ceasing postal service!<smile>

Lars, my friend, what in the world is going on? This sounds very much like a poorly written soap opera. G&S? I am not sure, at least until I listen to the music!<grin> At any rate, it appears that things are progressing, in spite of the continuance of the nuisance factor. But, you are experienced enough in life to know that “stuff” happens!

Captain Tom, that Alaskan rail adventure sounds like quite a bit of fun. When up on the ‘slope’ some years back, I had occasion to overnight in Fairbanks a few times. Found the place an interesting mix for sure. Now that I have “met” the guys from this bar, perhaps Fairbanks would be an appropriate place for our ilk!<grin> Good times. Alas, big oil has brought along with it, big changes. Prices went skyrocketing along with pretty much everything else in terms of what it once was. Kind of like what is happening in present day Newfoundland – St. Johns to be precise. Had business there too, and gagged at the hotel bills of $400 per night. Big oil, big changes, every time.

You will have to tell us more about your itinerary as I am sure that mine is not the only interest.

Doug, that’s quite a train for the bar. If Captain Tom cannot quite cover the amount, perhaps we can conjur up support from the group. Having once experienced a party on the rails, cannot imagine a better way to enjoy a trip – and with a dome at that!

Afraid that I have not gotten into my railroad reading list yet. Some books have arrived and my collection is beginning to grow. No doubt I will get to and through them, but with the interruptions of life, it may take a bit more time.

I expect to spend some time today reviewing the pages and pages of material that has amassed since my last visit. That Index of yours, Captain Tom, is not only quite a works, it is rather nicely formatted. Surely brings the point home, loud and clear, just how much this thread relies upon your contributions and mentoring (appropriate name, eh?) Appears as if you have figured a way to circumvent the differences of WP and forums requirements. Good show and a nice touch with the flags!

My urges have been suppressed to make comment to those imbeciles who seem to think that asking questions like, “If you won a quadrillion dollars ….” What kind of foolishness spurs that kind of thinking and what kinds of fools engage in it? Sorry if that is offensive, but for heavens sake, perhaps elsewhere, but not where “I live.” My suggestion to those who feel compelled to post – do so on Captain Tom’s two fine sites. At least you will be acknowledged and contribute to something much more worth the while. Of course, the option remains for one and all, not to read these junk postings and certainly not to answer them. Surely the better approach.

Captain Tom, a suggestion for your movie listings: why not “North to Alaska” with John Wayne and that great looking gal, Capucine?? Nothing to do with trains, but a good movie from decades ago. My guess is there are many other “Alaska” titles out there as well.

Is it me, or are there two postings this morning without even a mention of your fine efforts with the BC Railways[?]

Given that there is money left in the BK Sack ‘o Cash I authorize the withdrawal of a suitable amount for drinks on me twice this day.

BK in beautiful Alberta high country!

[Trainnut484]

Good morning Tom and gang. I'll have a Coke to go, since just dropping this note for Tom.

The cars for the Louisiana steam train association are all heavyweights, and features Mardi Gras and Hurricane Katrina exhibits. I'm not sure of their heritage, but local newspaper says they're from the Illinois Central. The cars are: Generator car (RPO), Baton Rouge (Baggage), Orleans (Baggage), and Jefferson (open-end Observation).

I included the web site address for the association with the pic. It mentions what they're about and how to help preserve their projects. In case you and/or anyone missed it, here it is again:

http://www.lasta.org/

Take care,

Russell

[siberianmo]

Canadian Railways of the Past

Number Three:British Columbia Railways (BCR)

PART II of II




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The sale of BC Rail

Looking to retire BC Rail's debt, on May 13, 2003, British Columbia Premier Gordon Campbell reneged on promises to the contrary and announced that the government would privatise BC Rail (by means of a 999 year lease), while retaining ownership of the right-of-way. On November 25, 2003, it was announced that Canadian National's (CN) bid of $1 billion would be accepted over those of several other companies. The transaction was closed on July 15, 2004. Many opponents, including the Canadian Pacific Railway, accused the government and CN of rigging the bidding process, though this has been denied by the government. It has also recently surfaced that Dave Basi and other upper-echelon aides may have been unsuccessfully bribed by OmniTRAX, another bidder, in exchange for skewing the process in that company's favour.

Freight services

The railway transported a wide variety of products, from resource traffic to intermodal freight. Forest products are one of the main products transported by the railway. Before its sale to CN, the railway transported over 120,000 carloads of lumber, pulp, woodchips, and other forest products per year. The railway served several lumber and pulp mills in the province. Between 1983 and 2003, the railway hauled coal in unit trains from the Teck and Quintette mines near Tumbler Ridge to to Prince George, from where CN would haul the trains to Prince Rupert for shipment to Japan. The Quintette mine, the larger-producing of the two, closed in 2000 and the Teck mine closed in 2003.

Starting in the 1960s, the PGE operated an intermodal service that transported truck trailers between North Vancouver and Prince George, and to places further north. Unlike most of the railway's other traffic, most of the intermodal traffic was northbound. In April 1982, the railway combined its piggyback and LCL services to form a new Intermodal Services Department. BC Rail halted its intermodal services in 2002. Starting in 1958, the railway started to haul grain from the Peace River District, serving grain elevators at Dawson Creek, Buick, Fort St. John, and Taylor. With an amendment to the Western Grain Transportation Act in 1985 that included the railway in the Act, it became economical for the railway to transport grain, and it also carried grain from Northern Alberta bound for Prince Rupert, interchanging with CN at Dawson Creek and Prince George.

From the 1920s to the 1960s, the railway also carried gold concentrate and bullion from the Bridge River goldfield towns of Bralorne and Pioneer Mine, which were trucked out of the goldfield area over 3500' Mission Pass to the railway at Shalalth. The main freight company operating out of Shalalth was Evans Transportation Co., which grew to be one of the biggest transportation companies in the province. In addition to gold concentrate and ore, Evans and other companies based in [[Shalalth, British Columbia|Shalalth carried passengers, heavy equipment, and supplies of all kinds over 3500' Mission Pass.

Interchanges

Between 1928 and 1952, the PGE did not interchange with any other railway. Connections were made to other railways when the railway expanded during the 1950s. The main connection to the North American rail network was in North Vancouver, where there was a connection to CN. There was also a rail connection to deep-sea terminal operator Vancouver Wharves, and some interchange occurred with the Union Pacific Railroad through the Seaspan railbarge link between North Vancouver and Seattle, Washington. The railway also interchanged with CN at Prince George, and with Northern Alberta Railways (acquired by CN in 1981) at Dawson Creek. CN's line between Dawson Creek and Hythe, Alberta, fell into disuse in 1998, but CN agreed to reopen it as a condition of purchasing BC Rail.

Reporting marks


BCIT 871027 in interchange service on the BN in 1992.
[Creative Commons] (photo: Sean Lamb)

Reporting marks are a system intended to help keep track of rolling stock and financial transactions between railways. The Pacific Great Eastern Railway used the reporting mark PGE. It later adopted the reporting mark PGER in 1971 for freight cars in international service. When the railway was renamed to the British Columbia Railway, it adopted the reporting mark BCOL, as well as the BCIT reporting mark for freight cars in international service.

Passenger services

Since the line opened, the PGE had provided passenger service between Squamish and Quesnel (as well as between North Vancouver and Horseshoe Bay until operations were discontinued there in 1928). When the PGE reached Prince George and North Vancouver, daily service was extended to these cities. Service between Lillooet and Prince George was cut back to three times weekly in the 1960s. In 1978, the McKenzie Royal Commission recommended that the BCR eliminate its passenger services, which were losing over $1 million per year, unless it received government funding for them, but the BCR did not do so. However, facing large losses and an ageing fleet of Rail Diesel Cars, it reduced passenger operations to three trains weekly to Lillooet and once weekly to Prince George on February 16, 1981. This service reduction led to public outrage, and the British Columbia government agreed to provide subsidies for passenger operations. The previous level of service was restored on May 4, 1981.

Passenger service ended on October 31, 2002. BC Rail replaced the service between Lillooet and nearby Seton Portage and D'Arcy with a pair of railbuses, called "track units" by the railway. The railbus makes at least one round trip between Seton Portage and Lillooet daily, and also serves D'Arcy if there is sufficient demand. The Seton Lake Indian Band manages ticket sales, marketing, and customer service for the shuttle service.

Passenger Services will return to the line in Summer 2006, with Rocky Mountaineer Railtours operating two services over the former BCRail route, the Whistler Mountaineer will operate between Vancouver and Whistler, with a seperate service operating north from Whistler through Prince George to Jasper. The West Coast Railway Association is also due to return the Royal Hudson #2860 to service during 2006.

Excursion services

The railway's best-known excursion service was its Royal Hudson excursion service, which was the only regularly scheduled steam excursion service on mainline trackage in North America. Excursion service started on June 20, 1974, running between North Vancouver and Squamish. By the end of the first season 47,295 passengers had been carried. The Royal Hudson would become one of British Columbia's primary tourist attractions. It operated between May and October. It was cancelled at the end of the 2001 tourist season.


The Whistler Northwind. Photo courtesy http://www.trainweb.com/.

Two other excursion services were introduced by BC Rail in 1997 and 2001. In 1997, BC Rail introduced the Pacific Starlight dinner train, which ran in evenings between May and October between North Vancouver and Porteau Cove. In 2001, BC Rail introduced the Whistler Northwind, a luxury excursion train that ran between May and October, northbound from North Vancouver to Prince George or southbound from Prince George to Whistler. The train used several custom-designed dome cars. Both services were discontinued at the end of the 2002 season along with BC Rail's passenger service.

Historically, and discontinued in the 1960s, the railway at one time operated open-top observation cars all the way from North Vancouver to Lillooet and sometimes beyond.

A series of lodges of varying quality grew up along the railway, drawing on weekend tourist excursions from Vancouver via the MV Brittania steamer service to Squamish. The most famous of these was Rainbow Lodge at Whistler, then called Alta Lake, but others were at Birken Lake, Whispering Falls, D'Arcy, Ponderosa, McGillivray Falls, Seton Portage, the Bridge River townsite (where there was a first-class hotel serving mining and hydro executives and their guests), Shalalth, Retaskit and at Craig Lodge near Lillooet. The last-named was a swank tennis resort, its attraction being the extremely arid, sunny climate and the waters of Seton Lake.

Locomotives

Until the late 1940s, most motive power on the PGE was provided by steam locomotives. The majority of the railway's locomotives were of the 2-6-2, 2-8-0 and 2-8-2 (Whyte notation) wheel configurations. In addition, the railway also used a handful of gasoline cars, notably on a flatcar automobile ferry between Shalalth and Lillooet known simply as the Gas Car, once a vital lifeline for the communities of the upper Bridge River basin before the completion of a road from there to Lillooet.

The railway received its first diesel locomotive in June 1948, a General Electric 65-ton locomotive. Over the next two years the railway acquired six GE 70-ton locomotives. In the 1950s, the railway bought RS-3, RS-10, and RS-18 locomotives from the Montreal Locomotive Works (MLW). The railway had fully dieselized by 1956, and by the end of the decade had nearly 40 diesel locomotives. The railway would purchase new locomotives exclusively from MLW until 1980. During the 1970s, the railway also purchased several used locomotives, mostly American Locomotive Company (ALCO) models from American railways. In the 1980s, the railway acquired new SD40-2 locomotives made by General Motors Diesel (GMD), as well as used SD40-2s originally made by General Motors Electro-Motive Division (EMD). More recently, several locomotives were purchased from General Electric.

In 1970, the railway started using remote controlled mid-train locomotives, allowing longer and heavier trains to be operated through the steep grades of the Coast Mountains. It initially used separate remote control cars to control the mid-train locomotives, but in 1975 it received eight M420B locomotives from MLW. These locomotives were specially designed for mid-train operation. They contained remote control stations, and were cabless.

The railway also leased seven G6FC electric locomotives made by GMD for use on the electrified Tumbler Ridge Subdivision between 1983 and 2000, when the electrification was removed. In 2004, one was sold to the British Columbia Railway & Forest Industry Museum in Prince George, and the rest were scrapped.

For passenger service, the PGE purchased seven Budd Rail Diesel Cars (RDC) in 1956. Starting in the 1970s, the BCR started to purchase some used RDCs. The RDCs were retired in 2002, when BC Rail ended its passenger services

The BCR also used some historic locomotives for its Royal Hudson excursion service. The primary locomotive for the Royal Hudson excursion train was Canadian Pacific Railway No. 2860, a class H1 4-6-4 Royal Hudson. Made by MLW for the Canadian Pacific Railway in June 1940, it was the first locomotive built as a Royal Hudson. A sister locomotive, No. 2850, pulled King George VI's and Queen Elizabeth's royal train in 1939, and after the tour the King gave the CPR permission to use the term "Royal Hudson" for the class of locomotives. Between 1940 and 1956 it hauled transcontinental passenger trains between Revelstoke and Vancouver. Damaged in a derailment in 1956, it was refurbished and transferred to Winnipeg in 1957 for service on the prairies. It was withdrawn from service in May 1959, replaced by diesel locomotives. It was sold to the Vancouver Railway Museum Association in 1964 and was stored in Vancouver until 1973, when the British Columbia government acquired the locomotive from Joe. W. Hussey, who had purchased it three years earlier. It was restored and then leased to the British Columbia Railway, who used it in excursion service between 1973 and 2000. It was out of service during the 2001 tourist season, needing extensive repairs. The backup for No. 2060 was Canadian Pacific Railway No. 3716, a 2-8-0 built by MLW in 1912. During the 2001 season, when both steam locomotives were out of service, BC Rail leased No. 4069, a restored Canadian Pacific Railway FP7A diesel locomotive.

References

• Andreae, Christopher (1997). Lines of country: an atlas of railway and waterway history in Canada, Boston Mills Press, Erin, Ontario. ISBN 1550461338.
• Sanford, Barrie (1981). The Pictorial History of Railroading in British Columbia, Whitecap Books, Vancouver, British Columbia. ISBN 0920620272.
• Horton, Timothy J. (1988). The British Columbia Railway (Volume One), B.R.M.N.A., Calgary, Alberta. ISBN 0-919487-28-9.
• Garrett, Colin and Max Wade (2001). Locomotives: A complete history of the world's great locomotives and fabulous train journeys, 260-263, London: Arness Publishing Limited. ISBN 1-94309-264-6.
• Schmidt, Paul (May, 2003). British Columbia seeks new BC Rail operator, retains right-of-way. Trains: p.11.
• About BC Rail - Facts & Figures. BC Rail. URL accessed on December 6, 2002.
• $1-BILLION BC RAIL INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP MOVES FORWARD. Province of British Columbia press releases. URL accessed on May 14, 2005.

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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]

Did you miss the first two in the series[?] Click on the URL:
#1 Canadian Northern Railway (CNoR), page 246
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=246&TOPIC_ID=35270

#2 Northern Alberta Railways (NAR), page 249
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=249&TOPIC_ID=35270


waving flags credit: www.3DFlags.com

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

Back again – had to attend to some matters upstairs and out back. Whoever had that Penthouse Suite last, surely must have had a great time! [}:)]

Okay, where was I[?] Oh [yeah] acknowledgments . . . continuing right along then:

barndad Doug
Posted: 02 Mar 2006, 08:01:22

So, who do I make the check out to[?] What a great train and how appropriate for ”Our” Place! Sure, we “need” to have this and “need” it NOW![tup] Pehaps Vito over at the Second National Bank of Mentor Village can come up with some “creative financing” for the purchase! [:O]

I have no idea what things like purchasing an entire train really costs, but that price appears a lot lower than I would have guessed. But that’s only half of it. Can you imagine the costs of operating it, not to mention indemnity, etc. How do you define “hassle’[?]

Great idea and something to dream about …..[tup][tup][tup]

That joke – well, not being a golfer, I suppose “some of you” found the humor. Being a sailor on the other hand, eh, eh, eh! The difference, they say, between love ‘n lust is the condition of the room! Hmmmmmmm – Penthouse Suite comes to mind.[swg]


coalminer3 CM3
Posted: 02 Mar 2006, 08:02:34

Email en route . . .

You surely covered lotsa ground with that Post and it’s all ‘right on!’[tup][tup]

I see that you got the spelling of the “Cariboo Prospector” correct. Many people make the assumption . . . . but we all have heard about the breakdown of that word, eh[?][swg]

One of the finest rail trips we have ever taken was aboard that string of RDCs from N. Vancouver. One of my earlier Posts chronicled that adventure. BC Rail ran a great operation, maintained those cars extremely well, ,and God provided us with some of the most marvelous views we’d seen by rail to that point. Just an all around wonderful experience.[tup][tup][tup] So sorry to see the demise of BC Rail – still really bothers me.[tdn]

That PBS thing we watched last night on Monty Python was hilarious. Looks like they are marketing their “Personal Best,” which is what the programming featured. Check out this URL if you (or anyone else) is interested:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EDWM3Q/qid=1141310752/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-7572461-7935817?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130

Watch the SUMMARY for tomorrow – that’s where the next “Theme Day” will appear. However – it will be the “threesome” of ACL – SAL – SCL.[tup]


STAY TUNED! Part II of today’s “feature” will Post around 10 AM (Central). Watch for it![tup]


Later![tup]


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!

Those who acknowledge the other guy, get acknowledged!

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

Another great start to the day here in mid-Continent USA as we await the arrival of spring. We were in the upper 70s (F) yesterday – today it’s going to be in the mid 50s (F) and they are talking about further drops over the weekend, with perhaps some snow showers thrown in.[yeah] Love it!<grin> Petrol up at “Collusion Corner” was pegged at $2.04 (rounded) when I passed through yesterday, the downward trend surely is a better alternative, eh[?][swg]

Some acknowledgments, of course!

barndad Doug
Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 21:47:00

Nice Part II![tup][tup] More on the way[?] Joke, if that’s what it is supposed to be, 1.0 – 1.5 – 1.0 – 2.5 – 1.5! [tdn][swg] Thanx for the comments about the Index. Just hope it provides a point of reference for anyone interested in reviewing some of the ‘stuff’ Posted over these months and months.[tup]


trolleyboy Rob
Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 22:23:44

Ditto on the Index comments![tup] Get me into a trainroom, and that’s where I’ll be![swg] Maybe the day of departure, Sunday, before heading out to Pearson …… hmmmmm.[tup]

Emails have been received and saved for possible Gazette use! Thanx.[tup]


passengerfan Al
Posted: 02 Mar 2006, 07:30:52

Nice supporting Post on the BC Railways/PGE!![tup] An Email is en route with a bit of “technical info.”

I see your Posts, CM3 ‘n Doug …. Will get to ‘em a bit later on!


STAY TUNED! Part II of today’s “feature” will Post around 10 AM (Central). Watch for it![tup]


Later![tup]


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!

Those who acknowledge the other guy, get acknowledged!

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Lots to read today.

LARS - Let me see if I have this right - the "adjustor" was followed by the "adjustor general." It's starting to sound a little like Gilbert and Sullivan.

Nick - Enjoyed the story abt. Tolkein and the coal cars - I'd like to see what he would have made out of some U.S. reporting marks.

Trannut 494 - appreciated the picture of the SP 2-8-2.

Monty Python - what next? Three of my favorite bits were "The Minister of Silly Walks," the parrot (singing with the choir invisible), and the lumberjack song which has been showing up in a commercial running on Sports Center.

Barndad - Sheep and the baby - excellent!

In 1969 the PGE was still in the Official Guide.

Trains 1 and 2 ran daily between North Vancouver and Lillooet. These were the "Cariboo Dayliner" as mentioned earler. The equipment note for them read "Trains 1 and 2, the Cariboo Dayliner, will carry RDC's. Reserved seats with complimentary meals available between North Vancouver and Prince George. Reclining Lounge seats, view windows, air conditioned throughout."

The tri-weekly service mentioned above was listed as a "Dayliner" between Lillooet and Prince George. This ran between Lillooet and Prince George on M,W, and FR. Return trips were made on TU, TH, and SA.

Additional service operated between Prince George and Dawson Creek; at this remove, it's hard to tell whether it was rail or bus. I was intrigued by the footnote beside one pair of trips which read "subject to change without notice."

Freight service only between Prince George and Chetwynd; Chetwynd and DAwson Creek, Chetwynd and Ft. St. John, and Odell and Ft. St. James.

PGE's connections were as follows.

British Columbia Hydro and Power Authority - North Vancouver
Canadian National - No. Vancouver and Prince George
Canadian Pacific (Including Vancouver and Lulu Island Branch - No. Vancouver
Milwaukee Road (via barge line) - No. Vancouver
Great Northern (via CN or CP) - No. Vancouver
Northern ALberta Rys Co. - DAwson Creek
Northern Pacific (via barge line) - No. Vancouver
Union Pacific - No. Vancouver.

Any idea what the theme day topic will be for next week?

work safe

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and all! I'll have 2 light breakfasts, and some glycerin pills, as today is tax-day for me! Rob, yeah, I don't really flatten coins on the rails anymore .... but I used to! In fact, we had some rails running through a tomato field close to one of my childhood homes in Huntington Beach, Ca., and as you can imagine .... many of those tomatoes were lined-up for execution now and then. Bad me.

Great piece on the BCR Mr. Tom! Really terrific stuff! Good job on your Caribou Dayliner streamliner this A.M. Mr. Al. How many keyboards do you go through in a year?

Couldn't help but notice that some of the recent discusion has centered around travel arrangements. I say ...why should we be bothered by mass-transportation rules, restrictions, schedules and prices, when we at "Our Place" have the power to eliminate the middle-man and travel when and where we please anytime ..... with our very own ......OUR PLACE TRAINSET !!!



Yep ...this baby is for sale. The Cincinnati Railway Co. (CRC) has for sale a complete (full size and full scale) trainset made up of former Amtrak equipment. The F40PH diesel loco was built for Amtrak in 1981. It had a major overhaul in 2000, and was painted in the "Amtrak West" color scheme. Retired after running only 93,000 miles, CRC bought it in 2003. It is currently in service, and has current "blue card." It also has a new Kim "hot start" heater. Price: $140,000 or best offer.

Also for sale are three full-length coaches, two coach/dorms and one diner/lounge. Ex-Amtrak coaches 39945, 39948 and 39960 were built by the Budd Co. for the Santa Fe Railway in 1956 as the new double-deck, "high-level" cars. Coaches 39915 and 39917 are unique in that they have the "low-level" diaphragm at one end which allows transition from the high-level cars to conventional low-level cars.

Finally, there is diner/lounge 39981. Also built by Budd in 1956, this car provided dining on the upper level, with a kitchen on the lower level. A dumbwaiter moved food and dishes between both levels. This car was modified by Amtrak into a diner/lounge with small table seating at one end, plus a VCR and two television sets for entertainment. Although not in active service today, this diner's equipment has been tested and appars operational. It was in active service with Amtrak just before being sold to CRC.

Price for the entire trainset is only $195,000! Kinda makes you think ..doesn't it?

[:I] Bob takes a vacation every summer. He is a golf nut and spends 2 weeks up at Hecia Island. This year he met a woman out there and fell head over heels in love with her. On the last night of his vacation, the two of them went to dinner and had a serious talk about how they would continue the relationship.
"It's only fair to warn you, I'm a total golf nut," Bob said to his lady friend. "I eat, sleep and breathe golf, so if that's a problem, you'd better say so now."
"Well, if we're being honest with each other, here goes," she replied. "I'm a hooker."
"I see, Bob replied, and was quiet for a moment. Then he added, "You know, it s probably because you're not keeping your wrists straight when you tee off. [:I]

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a quick cup of coffee and a crumpet from the Mentor Bakery.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER #71

CARIBOU DAYLINER PGE trains 1-2 September 25, 1956 Vancouver – Prince George tri weekly north of Lillooet daily south of Lillooet 462.5 miles each way 16 hours each way

The CARIBOU DAYLINER entered service September 30, 1956 after the busy summer season was over, operating over the mainline of the Pacific Great Eastern Railway between North Vancouver and Prince George, British Columbia Canada a distance of 466 miles in 16-1/2 hours either northbound or southbound. The PGE had just completed their line through from North Vancouver to Prince George and for passenger services over the newly completed line the Railway turned to the Budd Company. They purchased four RDC 3s and three RDC 1s from Budd for the new service. The RDC 3s were equipped with a Kitchen to prepare meals for service at ones seat and the RDC 1s were equipped with a small snack bar. The all day trip between North Vancouver and Prince George offers the most spectacular scenery in North America mile for mile of any railroad trip in North America. Each Morning two RDC 3s and from two to three of the RDC 1s depart North Vancouver as the CARIBOU DAYLINER. The train then winds its way through West Vancouver where some of the most expensive homes and property are located in all of Canada indeed North America. Many of the homes in this area exceed 2 million dollars in value. After departing the West Vancouver suburbs the train passes high above Horseshoe Bay where the British Columbia Ferry system operate ferries to Vancouver Island near the city of Nanaimo and to the Sunshine Coast. The CARIBOU DAYLINER operates on a narrow shelf blasted out of the rock along the cliffs of Howe Sound to Squamish. North of Squami***he train operates through the picturesque rugged interior of British Columbia. When the train reaches Lillooet the RDC 1s are set out and the two RDC 3s continue to Prince George. The southbound CARIBOU DAYLINER comprised of the remaining two RDC 3s then add the RDC 1s left in Lillooet by that days northbound CARIBOU DAYLINER and continues to North Vancouver and an early evening arrival.

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

Canadian Railways of the Past

Number Three:British Columbia Railways (BCR)

PART I of II




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BC Rail



Locale British Columbia

Reporting marks
BCOL, BCIT (formerly PGE and PGER)
Dates of operation 1912 – 2004
Track gauge
4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)

Original track gauge
Headquarters North Vancouver, British Columbia

BC Rail (AAR reporting marks BCOL and BCIT), known as the British Columbia Railway between 1972 and 1984 and as the Pacific Great Eastern Railway (PGE; AAR reporting marks PGE and PGER) before 1972, was a railway that operated in the Canadian province of British Columbia between 1912 and 2004. It was a class II regional railway and the third-largest in Canada, operating 2 320 km (1,441 miles) of mainline track. It was owned by the provincial government from 1918 until 2004, when it was sold to Canadian National Railway.

Chartered in 1912, the railway was acquired by the provincial government in 1918 after running into financial difficulties. A railway that ran "from nowhere, to nowhere" for over 30 years, neither passing through any major city nor interchanging with any other railway, it expanded significantly between 1949 and 1984. Primarily a freight railway, it also offered passenger service, as well as some excursion services, most notably the Royal Hudson excursion train. The railway's operations were not always profitable, and its debts, at times, made it the centre of political controversy.

History

1912–1948


Pacific Great Eastern Railway logo

The Pacific Great Eastern Railway (PGE) was incorporated on February 27, 1912, to build a line from Vancouver north to a connection with the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway (GTP) at Prince George. Although independent from the GTP, the PGE had agreed that the GTP, whose western terminus was at the remote northern port of Prince Rupert, could use their line to gain access to Vancouver. The railway was given its name due to a loose association with England's Great Eastern Railway. Its financial backers were Timothy Foley, Patrick Welch and John Stewart, whose construction firm of Foley, Welch and Stewart was among the leading railway contractors in North America. Upon incorporation, the PGE took over the Howe Sound and Northern Railway, which at that point had built nine miles (15 km) of track north of Squamish. The British Columbia government gave the railway a guarantee of principal and 4% interest (later increased to 4.5% to make the bonds saleable) on the construction bonds of the railway.

By 1915, the line was opened from Squamish 176 miles (283 km) north to Chasm. The railway was starting to run out of money, however. In 1915 it failed to make an interest payment on its bonds, obliging the provincial government to make good on its bond guarantee. In the 1916 provincial election campaign, the Liberal Party alleged that some of the money advanced to the railway for bond guarantee payments had instead gone into Conservative Party campaign funds. In the election, the Conservatives, who had won every seat in the legislature in 1912 election, lost to the Liberals. The Liberals then took Foley, Welch, and Stewart to court to recover $5 million of allegedly unaccounted funds. In early 1918, the railway's backers agreed to pay the government $1.1 million and turn the railway over to the government.

When the government took over the railway, two separate sections of trackage had been completed: A small section between North Vancouver and Horseshoe Bay, and one between Squamish and Clinton. By 1921, the provincial government had extended the railway to a point 15 miles (24 km) north of Quesnel, still 20 miles (32 km) south of a connection to Prince George, but it was not extended further. The track north of Quesnel was later removed. Construction of the line between Horseshoe Bay and Squamish was given a low priority because there was already a barge in operation between Squamish and Vancouver, and the railway wanted to discontinue operations on the North Vancouver-Horseshoe Bay line. However, the railway had an agreement with the municipality of West Vancouver to provide passenger service that it was unable to get out of until 1928, when they paid the city $140,000 in support of its road-building programme. The last trains on the line ran on November 29, 1928, and the line fell into disuse, but was never formally abandoned.

For the next 20 years the railway would run from "nowhere to nowhere". It did not connect with any other railway, and there were no large urban centres on its route. It existed mainly to connect logging and mining operations in the British Columbia interior with the coastal town of Squamish, where resources could then be transported by sea. The government still intended for the railway to reach Prince George, but the resources to do so were not available, especially during the Great Depression and World War II. The unfortunate state of the railway caused it to be given nicknames such as "Province's Great Expense", "Prince George Eventually", "Past God's Endurance", and "Please Go Easy".

1949 to 1971


The cover of a PGE passenger train timetable from 1964.

Starting in 1949, the Pacific Great Eastern began to expand. Track was laid north of Quesnel to a junction with the Canadian National Railways at Prince George. That line opened on November 1, 1952. Between 1953 and 1956 the PGE constructed a line between Squamish and North Vancouver. The PGE used their former right-of-way between North Vancouver and Horseshoe Bay, to the dismay of some residents of West Vancouver who, mistakenly believing the line was abandoned, had encroached on it. The line opened on August 27, 1956. By 1958 the PGE had reached north from Prince George to Fort St. John and Dawson Creek.

In 1958, British Columbia Premier W.A.C. Bennett boasted that he would extend the railway to the Yukon and Alaska, and further extension of the railway was undertaken in the 1960s. A 23 mile (37 km) spur was constructed to Mackenzie. A third line was extended west from the mainline (somewhat north of Prince George) to Fort St. James. It was completed on August 1, 1968. The largest construction undertaken in the 1960s was to extend the mainline from Fort St. John 250 miles (400 km) north to Fort Nelson, less than 100 miles (160 km) away from the Yukon. The Fort Nelson Subdivision was opened by Premier Bennett on September 10, 1971. Unfortunately, the opening of the line was overshadowed by the inaugural train derailing south of Williams Lake, south of Prince George.

1972 to 1989



British Columbia Railway logo (1972-1984)

The railway underwent two changes of name during this time period. In 1972, the railway's name was changed to the British Columbia Railway (BCR). In 1984, the BCR was restructured. Under the new organization, BC Rail Ltd. was formed, owned jointly by the British Columbia Railway Company (BCRC) and by a BCRC subsidiary, BCR Properties Ltd. The rail operations became known as BC Rail.

In 1973, the British Columbia government acquired and restored an ex-Canadian Pacific Railway 4-6-4 steam locomotive of the type known as "Royal Hudsons", a name that King George VI permitted the class to be called after the Canadian Pacific Railway used one on the royal train in 1939. The locomotive that the government acquired, numbered 2860, was built in 1940 and was the first one built as a Royal Hudson. The government then leased it to the British Columbia Railway, which started excursion service with the locomotive between North Vancouver and Squamish on June 20, 1974. The train ran between June and September on Wednesdays through Sundays.


Map of the British Columbia Railway

In the 1960s, a new line had been projected to run northwest from Fort St. James to Dease Lake, 412 miles (663 km) away. On October 15, 1973, the first 125 miles (201 km) of the extension to Lovell were opened. The cost of the line was significantly greater than what was estimated, however. Contractors working on the remainder of the line alleged that the railway had misled them regarding the amount of work required so that it could obtain low bids, and took the railway to court.

The Dease Lake line was starting to appear increasingly uneconomical. There was a world decline in the demand for asbestos and copper, two main commodities that would be hauled over the line. As well, the Cassiar Highway that already served Dease Lake had recently been upgraded. Combined with the increasing construction costs, the Dease Lake line could no longer be justified. Construction stopped on April 5, 1977. Track had been laid to Jackson, 263 miles (423 km) past Fort St. James, and clearing and grading were in progress on the rest of the extension. It had cost $168 million to that point, well over twice the initial estimate.

The management and operation of the railway had been called into question, and on February 7, 1977, the provincial government appointed a Royal Commission, the McKenzie Royal Commission, to investigate the railway. Its recommendations were released on August 25, 1978. It recommended that construction not continue on the 149 miles (239 km) of roadbed between Dease Lake and the current end of track, and that trains be terminated at Driftwood, 20 miles (33 km) past Lovell. The rest of the track would be left in place but not used. In 1983, after logging operations ceased at Driftwood and traffic declined sharply, the Dease Lake line was closed. However, it was reopened in 1991 and, as of 2005, extends to a point called Chipmunk, still over 175 miles (281 km) south of Dease Lake. Many of the Commission's other recommendations, including the abandonment of the Fort Nelson line, and discontinuation of uneconomic operations such as passenger services, were not followed.

In the early 1980s the railway built a new line and acquired another. The Tumbler Ridge Subdivision, an 82 mile (132 km) electrified branch line, opened in 1983 to the Quintette and Wolverine mines, two coal mines northeast of Prince George that produced coal for Japan. It has the lowest crossing of the Rocky Mountains by a railway, at 3,815 feet (1 163 m). There are two large tunnels under the mountains: The Table Tunnel, 5.6 miles (9 km) long, and the Wolverine Tunnel, 3.7 miles (6 km) long. Electrified owing to the long tunnels and close proximity to the W. A. C. Bennett Dam and transmission lines, it was one of the few electrified freight lines in North America. Although initially profitable, the traffic on the line was never as high as initially predicted, and by the 1990s was under one train per day. The railway had incurred much debt building the branch line, and the expensive, unprofitable operations on the branch line could not help to repay that debt. In 1984 BC Rail acquired the British Columbia Harbours Board Railway, a 23 mile (37 km) line that connects three class I railways with Roberts Bank, an ocean terminal that handles coal shipments. Since the line had been constructed in 1969, it had previously been leased to CP Rail, Burlington Northern Railroad, and Canadian National Railway in succession.

1990 to 2003

In the early 1990s, the provincial government reduced subsidies to BC Rail. As a result, BC Rail, burdened with several money-losing services that it was required to operate, saw its debtload grow more than sixfold between 1991 and 2001.


BC Rail electric locomotive undergoing dismantling in 2004.


Two dismantled British Columbia Railway electric locomotives at CEECO Rail Services in Tacoma, Washington, July 6, 2004. [Creative Commons] (photo: Sean Lamb)

In the 1990s, BC Rail branched out into shipping operations, acquiring terminal operator Vancouver Wharves in 1993 and Canadian Stevedoring and its subsidiary, Casco Terminals, in 1998. In 1999 these operations became the three operating divisions of a new entity, BCR Marine. BCR Group became the parent company of both BCR Marine and BC Rail. In early 2003, attempting to reduce the railway's large debt, BCR Group sold its BCR Marine assets except for Vancouver Wharves (which was also not included in the subsequent sale of BC Rail to Canadian National, and remains a provincial Crown corporation).

On August 19, 2000, the Quintette mine closed, and the portion of the Tumbler Ridge Subdivision between Teck and Quintette, British Columbia, was abandoned. The last electric locomotives ran along the line on September 29, 2000, after which the line was worked by diesels. The Wolverine mine closed on April 10, 2003, after which the remaining 69.6 miles (112 km) of the Tumbler Ridge Subdivision between Teck and Wakely was abandoned, although the track is still in place. The electric locomotives were shipped south to Tacoma, Washington, where they are being dismantled by CEECO Rail Services. One of the locomotives was preserved in the British Columbia Railway & Forest Industry Museum in Prince George.


BC Rail Rail Diesel Car. BC Rail discontinued its passenger services in 2002. Photo courtesy http://www.trainweb.com/.

Several other services were also discontinued around this time. The Royal Hudson steam train excursion was discontinued at the end of the 2001 excursion season. The 2860 was out of service in 2000, needing extensive repairs. The backup steam locomotive, a 2-8-0 locomotive built for the Canadian Pacific Railway in 1912, broke down in May 2001, and for the rest of the season BC Rail used a former Canadian Pacific Railway FP7A diesel locomotive #4069 that it had leased from the West Coast Railway Association in Squamish. Passenger train service which consisted of the Budd-RDC operated Cariboo Prospector and Whistler Northwind trains ended October 31, 2002. The service was unprofitable, partly owing to BC Rail's heavy dependence on their fleet of aging Budd Rail Diesel Cars (RDC) that were becoming increasingly expensive to keep in service. The RDCs have since been sold to various museums and operators around North America, (such as the Wilton Scenic Railroad in New Hampshire and the West Coast Railway Association in Squamish). Service between Seton Portage and Lillooet was replaced by a railbus. As well, around this time BC Rail ended its intermodal service.

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[siberianmo]

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THURSDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

Thursday! Check out the freshly brewed hot coffee and the pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery! Then take a look at our Menu Board with some great selections for our <light> and <traditional> breakfasts!


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Info for the Day:

Canadian Railways of the Past: British Columbia Railways (BCR) arrives TODAY in two parts! Watch for it!

* Weekly Calendar:

TODAY: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and – ENCORE! Saturday


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 05:16:13 (260) Wednesday’s Info & Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 06:05:37 (260) Am visit, joke info & joke

(3) passengerfan Al Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 07:38:59 (260) AM visit & Streamliner #70, Phoebe Snow

(4) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 07:43:43 (260) Mid-week visit! Could it be . . . .[?]

(5) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 08:24:26 (260) CM3 Speaks & Pike Perspectives!

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 08:31:48 (261) Acknowledgments, etc.

(7) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 11:21:02 (261) Inclusive Post, etc.

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 13:17:00 (261) Acknowledgments, etc.

(9) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 14:00:00 (261) The Lars Report!

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 14:56:34 (261) Tom’s Index

(11) passengerfan Al Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 15:15:52 (261) Phoebe Snow, etc.

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 16:36:14 (261) Acknowledgments, etc.

(13) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 16:42:18 (261) Wed Visit & Pix

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 19:34:47 (261) reply to Trainnut484

(15) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 20:32:45 (261) Nick at Nite!

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 21:02:59 (261) reply to nickinwestwales

(17) barndad Doug Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 21:47:00 (261) Inclusive Post, True Tales, Part II & joke!

(18) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 01 Mar 2006, 22:23:44 (261) Inclusive Post, etc.

NOW SHOWING:

The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre
. . . . . Double Features, all of the time . . . . .

. . . Sunday, February 26th thru March 4th: Fours a Crowd (1938) starring: Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland & Rosalind Russell – and – Holiday Affair (1949) starring: Robert Mitchum, Janet Leigh & Wendell Corey.


That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Leon. A trankard of keith's for me, and a round for those left at their stools.

Tom Nice index, I think we may need to call you 30 fingers LOL that's quite the compilation. [tup] I'm digging and rummaging for at least one perhaps two bits for tomorrows BCR / PGE lovefest.

Thanks for the comments on the layout, really the best possible move for it, and you are right an overly tolerant mate is essential in this hobby of ours. Not sure that anything will be operable by may but you are welcome to looksee it-stay to long though and you may find yourselves wiring and laying track.[:D][;)][:-,]

I have watched parts of Gormenghast on TV, TVO and the space network up here ran it several times a few years ago, bit to wierd for me [alien] pretty sure that Boris was part of that book/film, that would tend to explain alot. maybe that's where Nick found him.


Lars I think you need to put a farebox out, a donatuion from every adjuster that show's up and you could make yourself quite the profit from these ongoing antics. Ain't insurance companies grand ?

Doug Again some interesting stuff, hope you can get a good index out eventually, I'd hate to lose track of such fine reading. [tup] We tend to frown upon kids trying to flatten currency at the museum, can be dangerous, about three years ago a kid put a looney ( $ 1 coin) infront of the Witt I was operating and the thing was caught by the leading axel and shot accross the tracks like a bullet, no one or nothing was harmed but geez someone could have caught that in the forehead or something.

Al yes he came through oh well so much for all our evil thoughts as to who she was.Boris was almost excited at the descriptions that had been flying around, so much so that he required extra tranquilization.


Nick Glad that you pop[ed back in, I'm looking forward to your culinary talents tomorrow, usually Pete and I will order something anyway, mind you old Boris has taken to feeding the extras to Tex the meesse left behind are something akin to awfull.
Now what are we going to do with these shrubberies that have been dropped off here inexplicably [?][;)]

Rob
[:-,][:-,]

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and all! I'll have an Amstel tonight for a change ... and speaking of change, here's some rail-flattened Michigan quarters that aren't any good for anything, but I enjoyed squashing them! [;)]

Nice piece on the Phoebe Snow Mr. Al, and I must say that Tom's index shows a heck of a lot of effort that has gone into keeping our not-so-little thread such an incredible source of railroading history and information. Just amazing! Nice pic of the SP 745 on its way to KC, Mr. Russ. I already asked if I could go see it, and the answer was no. Grrrrrrrrrrr

I don't have any model railroad material to share, but will you settle for another installment of The Dynamiter?

True Tails of the Rails from Dec. 1939 Railroad Magazine

Mountain railroading, in case you don’t know it, begins at Livingston. The twenty-six miles from there to Bozeman are all on angles, with a fair-sized tunnel and a canyon as vulnerable points. It seemed to Superintendent Boyle that the dynamiter might strike there, so he got local police and farmers to patrol that line till there was a track-walker for every half mile. The Northern Pacific raised its reward to $2500, the Governor added $1000 for his state and the county piled on another $500 for good luck.

Little more could be done but fake the payoff and try to spring a trap – risky, but no worse than waiting. Boyle ordered every train to fly white flags. Then he talked with the sheriff of Livingston, a heavy-set man named A.S. Robertson with a friendly face and keen eyes. “We might as well try it,” agreed Robertson, “and make a show of the money.”

Dusk was creeping on September 2nd that year when a buggy under heavy guard rolled from the First National Bank through the streets and up the track to an engine on the main line. Armed men lifted a canvas bag clinking with metal and bulging with packages shaped like currency. They lugged it over the rails and plunked it on the iron floor of the cab. Steam was already rapping at the safety valve and Charley Gardner’s firm hand was clamped on the lever. “That’s a lot of cash!” McFettridge shouted to the engineer. “Be sure and get a receipt.”

Charley knew it was all window dressing; the hard money was fifty pounds of iron washers and the “currency” was paper cut and bound into packages. In the tender under the coal, the police had built a pint-sized fortress to hold three men armed to the fingernails. Two were deputy sheriffs and the third was the chief dispatcher, Bob McLeod, with a telegraph set that he could hook to the nearest wire.

Behind the payoff engine, out of sight but close enough to pull up in a few minutes, there would follow a train full of possemen and horses and bloodhounds. The sheriff had already gone by buggy to the Bozeman tunnel, where he could climb aboard in the darkness.

Bell clanging, Charley started west at thirty miles an hour. As they neared the Bozeman tunnel he slowed to a crawl and peered ahead in the dark for the sheriff. “Hi, hogger!” hailed Robertson, climbing into the cab. Charley grinned and gave the old girl more steam. But when they had left the lights of Bozeman twenty miles behind, the runner’s heart drooped into his shoes as his engine began to clank and grind and labor, slowing down to a jerky crawl. “Airbrakes must be leakin’,” he said.

Right enough, a bleeding-**** just over the rear driver was hissing; partly open, it was pulling on the brakes. Charley might have stooped, but he revolted at the idea of missing his schedule. There was a way to reach the **** by leaning forward from the lower cab step with his face close to the driving rod. If he had never done that at night, he might as well learn how. Sheriff and fireman watched him climb down the step and lean forward. After a long minute the hissing ceased and the engine began to better her speed. When Charley got back, blood was trickling down his face, dripping from his chin. “Rod hit me,” he explained.

The gash in his forehead looked mean, but it was not serious. They patched Charley up and rattled on through the night – and then they struck torpedoes, which called for a stop, and a flagman walked up slowly with a lantern. “Our freight’s stalled ahead,” said the flagman. “We’ll be out in a couple of minutes.”

Charley writhed as he waited, knowing that delay might knock the schedule to flinders and with it their hope of catching the fool whose hobby was blowing up trains. His toes curled in his shoes as the minutes stretched to half an hour and they finally got a clear track. Beyond Helena he watched critically for a red signal, the sheriff at the other window, while they pushed along over hollow culverts and echoing cuts. One by one the lamps of Missoula snapped into view. “Missed him.” The sheriff was crestfallen. “That blankety blank must be fooling,” Charley grumbled. “or else he was kind of sore at the delay. He don’t seem very good-humored.”

A few days later a new extortion letter was slapped on Dan Boyle’s desk, not neat like the first but half printed in smudgy pencil with words spelled wrong, and minus the curious marks which made the first look as if it had been wired to a stick. “Too bad I could not meet your payoff train,” it read. “My price is now $50,000.”

Since there were no further orders for delivering the money, Mr. Boyle could do no more than put an armed guard in every cab, supply the crews with guns and send more track-walkers out on the line, till it seemed that every man in western Montana who could be spared was walking track. No tunnel nor bridge was now unguarded. The super raised the Northern Pacific’s reward to $5000, making a total of $6500.

ON the morning of September 18th the warehouse of the A.M. Holter Hardware Company at Helena was found burglarized of half a ton of dynamite. On the same day two secret caches of explosives were uncovered west of Helena – grim news to trainmen and their wives. Four days later the engine of the Logan stub train hit dynamite right in the Helena yards. Clods flew; guards hurrying up squinted into the smoky dust till they could see that the cab windows were jagged holes and one rail was bent out like a rubber hose. Through engineer and fireman grinned as they brushed pieces of broken glass from their sleeves, they looked green around the edges.

Careful scrutiny revealed horseshoe prints near the track, showing that a rider had come from the highway and returned to it; but on the hard road the trail was lost so definitely that the best hounds in Park County ran around in circles. On October 5th a locomotive struck dynamite in the mountains west of Helena, and rails were torn out, but still no engineman was hurt. While the tension was sweeping over the division like wind over a low fire, Dan Boyle opened a third letter, stamped at Helena, in which the suspects Stadt and Chavez were mentioned. “I will blow up the Travis house unless you get them men out of jail.”

Thomas Travis was the Helena chief of police. Guards took stations around his home and the jail, around the Governor’s mansion and the State Capitol; but the search shifted far west when word came that a small bridge near Mullan Pass had been burned and dynamite had been set off under the track nearby without ripping up the rails. Superintendent Boyle was dismayed. At Livingston he issued terse commands: “As a precaution against time bombs, passengers will not leave baggage on trains or in stations. Armed men on handcars will precede every train over Mullan Pass.”

Before the handcar plan could be put into effect, two more engines ran into dynamite, one on each end of the Mullan Tunnel. Boyle thereupon ordered guards to the pass by rail, but a cloudburst ripped out a bridge so that he had to organize a posse of horsemen. At the top of the pass, near the tunnel, they surprised a sheepish-looking man behind a scraggly beard red with tobacco. “I’m just an old prospector, boys,” he mumbled in answer to their questions. “What’s that under your arm?”

The man’s eyes were shifty; it was a ham. “Stolen from me this morning,” declared a sharp-nosed rancher who lived near the pass. If men’s nerves had not been raw, they would not have shipped the old fellow to Helena, where he was freed after a few perfunctory days in jail.

[:I] A professor is sent to darkest Africa to live with a primitive tribe. He spends years with them, teaching them reading, writing, math, and science. One day the wife of the tribe's chief gives birth to a white child. The members of the tribe are shocked, and the chief pulls the professor aside and says, "Look here! You're the only white man we've ever seen and this woman gave birth to a white child. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened!"
The professor replied, "Chief, you're mistaken. What you have here is a natural occurrence.. what we in the civilized world call an albino! Look at that field over there. All of the sheep are white except for one black one. Nature does this on occasion."
The chief was silent for a moment, then said, "Tell you what. You don't say anything more about the sheep and I won't say anything more about the baby." [:I]

[siberianmo]

Good Evening!

Back again - couldn't resist after reading through Nick at Nite![swg]

Also, there's a Monty Python special on our PBS channel - hilarioius is simply not good enough to describe what we've seen thus far![swg][tup] This is a series entitled, "Monty Python's Personal Best" - and I believe we picked it up at "Part 3 of 6." This stuff is infectious and overwhelmingly funny . . .

So, where to begin[?] I'll drink that Keiths thanx! Let me spring for a round as well, it's close enough for me to take a seat on the other side of the bar![yeah]

Pretty good run down on the "benefits" of toy and model trains as opposed to the "toys" of today. Aside from the flesh eating turtles, et al, I'd say the socialization of our youth into the practical aspects of things to come falls far short today as compared to "my day."[tdn]

I can "dig" that vision you have of Phoebe Snow[yeah][wow] However, I'd have her in white mesh stockings - snow, ya know![swg]

Don't get wrapped around the axle with the "challenge" I threw your way. On this side of the pond, the rift between green and orange has a totally different meaning. So, light 'n lively it shall be . . . [tup]

Sorry, Sir - but when someone, anyone mentions "Jimi" and anything symbolic of things I hold dear - nope, no way, and no how. Didn't like him when - disliked him then - and have nothing but disdain for the memory. So how do I really feel[?][tdn] Having said all of that, I respect your right to hold to your insanity![swg]

Hope to see ya at the Fish 'n Chips Nite! - but don't be disappointed at the turnout. The guys aren't really "into" our menus these days (daze) - you know, times and people change. Been thinking of scrapping the idea of the Thursday thru Saturday bill or fare - but then again, what's the harm[?] Pete seems to always remember .....

Leon the Night Man now has the bar!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well here we are again,broken the back of another week and all hitting our stride ready for the weekend-pikes perspective day already and here I am without a thing to wear-pish & tush,what will become of us.....
Right [4:-)][oX)]TOM-a big green bottle for me,a Keith`s for yourself perhaps and refills all round for the chaps...
Thanks for the Gormenghast URL-I tend to forget that not everybody is a shiftless idle layabout with endless time for reading--I would warmly recommend the volumes in question to one and all-Peake creates a `world` unlike any other I have discovered-this and Tolkiens masterwork are my all time fave reads ( did you know time--As a child Tolkien lived next to a marshalling yard and his interest in linguistics {the Lord of the Rings was originally an interlectual exercise to provide a framework for his invented Elvish language} derived from seeing private-owner wagons lettered for various Welsh collieries,often with almost unpronounceable names,moving in and out of the sidings.
Also,his vision of the fires of Mordor derived from childhood memories of the firebox glow of the various switchers working the yard at night)
Whoops-where was I-ah yes--I would agree wholeheartedly that model railroading brings with it a whole box full of associated skills-electronics,carpentry,art ,graphic design,maths(geometry etc) ,metalwork,history,geography,social interaction ( after you Claud,I`m in the hole here)--try getting that lot from flesh-eating zombie turtles on playstation mk7 or whatever the heck it is.......................I rest my case m`lud
By-the -bye,that trip sounds like a fine way to celebrate 15 glorious years (many congrats to Carol & Yourself )
DOUG-lovin the story-as noted by others,you have captured that authentic `wireless` (Radio) feel-keep the gags comin`-you have an audience here [^]
ROB-R.E the orange & green-Michael Collins was an Irish Republican hero/terrorist who was involved in the 1916 uprising that led to the formation of the Irish Free State ( Eire) and the Red Hand were (are) a loyalist group-[4:-)][oX)]TOM has thrown me a tricky ball to field here since any reference to this topic must,by definition,refer to what is still to many ,an on-going civil war.
However,I will endeavour to tread lightly in an area where both politics & religion ( anathema in any well run bar ) draw together.
AL-Nice one on Phoebe Snow (the train)-as to Phoebe Snow (the fantasy figure),best left to your various imaginations ( for myself,Phoebe the nurse works well-crisply starched uniform,black stockings,warm soft hands................waaaah)
Enough of this.
SIR THEODORE-Always a pleasure to have you amongst us-there`s always a drink or two in the pipe with your name on it ,with my compliments-hope the new project is proceeding apace [tup][^][tup]
CM3- A fine job on the Pikestuff-I don`t share the same memories, but you set me off on a pleasant ramble down memory lane-thank you [^]-----sentence enhancers-a lovely phrase-says as much about you as it does them [tup]
LARS-You sound brighter already my friend-what a difference a day makes !!--go for the trip-we only live once after all ( Buddhists notwithstanding ) I reckon you owe yourself ( and Missislars) some quality time after all this s**t you`ve been presented with
RUSS-Nice to see you-have a beer on me-nice pic although I can`t get used to seeing locos with oil-tanks instead of proper tenders ( oil firing never really caught on on this side of the pond)
Right,looks like it`s that time of night again,moonlight mile for me-a large shot of rum all around and a handful of coins for Herr Wurlitzer-I`ve got a Woodstock head on tonight, so how about:- Wooden ships by Crosby,Stills & Nash,See me,feel me & Summertime blues from The Who,I`m going home from Ten Years After and The Star Spangled Banner from Mr Jimi ( private tape from the galley,bearing in mind [4:-)][oX)]TOMS preferences) to finish off with--Have a good one guys,see you all for fish & chips tomorrow-be lucky,nick [C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Good Evening!

Trainnut484 Russell - take a look at my "other thread," you may find some Pix of interest!

Nice shot of the SP steamer in KCity. What is the makeup of the entire train[?} Doubt that I'll be making a trip out there to see it . . . . got the Rendezvous in Toronto and my Alaska trip coming up.

Missed having your Pix for our Sunday Photo Posting Day! Hope you'll be able to check out the pages since your last visit AND perhaps join us this Sunday![tup]


Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)


Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Trainnut484]

Good afternoon Tom and all. Miller Lite for me. Nice job [tup] on the Index, Tom. The flags are a nice touch.

Good grief Lars, sounds like grand central station at your house. Hope you're satisfied with your new insurance company.

Three [tup][tup][tup] up for the NP theme yesterday. Sorry I didn't have anything to contribute to it.

The Louisiana Steam Train Association is here at Union Station for the KC Rails Expo. The train arrived yesterday morning, and the exhibit will be open starting March 4th and continue to April 30th. The train had to be brought in by KCS, since exSP 745 is having mechanical problems. Donations are accepted for the upkeep of the train, and membership info can be found at http://www.lasta.org/

SP 745 2-8-2 (click to enlarge)


Take care for now,

Russell

[siberianmo]

G'day!

I KNEW 20 Fingers Al would come through![yeah] So, no more fantasies about Phoebe Snow guys! Just a figment . . . [swg]

Good to see ya at the bar Lars as the ongoing saga of the "March of the Insurance Companies" continues. Utterly amazing! Keep workin' on the other half, and perhaps you too will erxperience that "dome adventure" up in the 49th State![tup]

Thanx for the ten spot Lars and the round Al![tup]


I'm amazed at the continuing crap Posts arriving on "our" Thread - doesn't seem to be an end to the nonsense and "go no where" questions. And of course, as P. T. Barnum was once quoted, "There's a sucker born every day!" - or something like that. Keep enabling them, and they'll keep doing it.

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Afternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a quick CR and a round for the house.

Sorry to disappoint anyone but Phoebe Snow was nothing more than an advertising gimmick of the Delaware Lackawanna and Western. Mind you it was extremely successful. Today their is a musical star using the name, but know actual person ever existed with that name at the time the railroad began using the advertiseing.

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

Tom’s INDEX, thru Feb 2006
recommended for "bookmarking."

A helplful hint:

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=247&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).


Fallen Flags (passenger ops):

106/150/253 SP … 106/150 MP .…….. 108/155/170 WP ….. 109/182 Frisco
112/187 CNR . . . . .112/182 Heralds . . 114/195 ACL …..….. 115/195 SAL
116/195 D&RGW .. 118/181 RI . . . . . . 119/202 D&H …..….. 120/144 PRR
122/144 NYC .…… 124/202 UP ..…..… 125/203 AT&SF ..…. 127/203/234 B&O
128/204 CM&StP . 129/205 CB&Q ..…. 130/205 Soo Line …. 133/205 C&NW
134/206 SP&S ….. 136/213 GN ………. 139/216 B&M .…….. 140/218 NH
141/219 MEC …… 142/221 BAR .……. 145/226 NP .……….. 146/231 L&N
147/237 WRR …... 148/234 C&O .……. 148/243 KCS ……… 151/250 N&W
152/256 Erie …….. 152 IC ....…………..154 NPR .….………. 155 SOU
156 CGW .……….. 157 RDG ..…………158 MON .....………. 159 IT
162 LV ..………….. 163 GM&O ...……..164 Extra


Personal rail trips

12 ………... Canada Rail Journey, Part I
13 ………... Canada Rail Journey, Part II
15 ………... Canada Rail Journey, Part III
16 ………... Canada Rail Journey, Part IV (final)
80 ………... Dallas Trip
99/206 .…... A trip to remember (personal account of cross-Canada rail trip)
124/243 ….. A tale of Classic Trains BC Rail RDC trip
134/206 ….. Personal RR journey CPR’s “The Canadian”
199 ………. A Trip to Remember (Remembrance Day Train 2005)


Passenger Train Nostalgia:

110/181 .…. MKT Combined Fallen Flag and Ads
112/187 ….. CNR Ad - Super Continental Time Table
113/144 .…. #1 ”Start ups” 1800s & early 1900s
117/144 .…. #2 Ad - Vista-Dome sleeper obs-lounge
121/174 .…. #3 Ad - CP Hotels & Lodges
127/202/234 .B&O Ad - Strata-Dome
127/219/234 .B&O Ad – Diesel Electric Trains
129/174 .…. #4 Ad - CN Hotels, Ltd.
130/206 .…. Great Britain #1 Poster - East Coast Route
133/221 .…. #5 Poster - CP 1886
133/211 ….. #6 Poster - CP 1950s
134/244 ….. #7 Poster - Washington & Old Dominion Railway
135/226 ….. Great Britain #2 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137/231 ….. Great Britain #3 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137/231 ….. #8 Ad – Great Northern (1956)
139/237 ….. #9 Ads – Great Northern (1956)
140/237 ….. #10 Ad – Union Pacific
141/250 ……Nostalgia 1956 Hotel Ads
142/257 ……Nostalgia Fairbanks-Morse motive power Ad
143/257 ….. #11 Ad - PRR – The Jeffersonian
145/259 ….. #12 Ad – NP
146 ……….. #13 Ad – L&N
146/257 ….. Great Britain #4 Poster (1870s)
147/237 ..... #14 Ad – Budd & Wabash – New Blue Bird
148/234 ..... #15 Ad – C&O
149 ……….. HERTZ Ad - 1956
151 ……….. #16 Ad – Budd RDC (1950)
153 ………. .#17 Ad – Budd RDC (1950)
153/247 ……North American Steam Loco Wheel Arrangements
154 …….…. #18 Ad – Budd RDC (1953)
155 …….…. #19 Ad – Budd RDC (1954)
156/250/253.#20 Ad – SP, Golden State (1951)
157/253 ……#21 Ad – SP, Sunset limited (1951
158/254 .......#22 Ad – SP, City of San Francisco (1951)
159/246 ……#23 Ad – AT&SF (1950)
161 …….…. 9 WWII Ads ENCORE! of Vets/Remembrance Day Commemoration
162/246 ……#24 Ad – AT&SF (1951)
163/247 ……#25 Ad – AT&SF (1952)
164 …….…. #26 Ad – Olympian Hiawatha
166 …….…. AVIS Ad – 1956
167 …….…. Pocket List of RR Officials Ad – 1956
169/240 ..... #27 Ad – NYC Aerotrain (1956)
170/240 ..... #28 Ad – NYC Xplorer (1956)
171 ……….. #29 Ad – CP (1950)
172 ……….. #30 Ad – CP (1950)
173 ……….. #31 Ad – Pullman (1950)
176 …….…. #32 Ad – Pullman (1950)
177 …….…. #33 Ad – Soo Line – Winnipegger (1956)
178 …….…. #34 Ad – Burlington Route (1949)
180 …….…. #35 Ad – Soo Line – Mountaineer (1956)
181 …….…. #36 Ad – Soo Line – The Laker (1956)
182 …….…. #37 Ad – MoPac – Eagle Dome Coaches (1956)
183/240 ......#38 Ad – NYC – New 20th Century Ltd (1948)
184 ……….. #39 Ad – PRR – Broadway Ltd (1949)
186 ….……. #40 Ad – British Railways (1948)
.……….…… #41 Ad – Glacier National Park (1949)
188-189 ...... #1-8 Ad Christmas RR travel #1
190/240 ……#42 Ad] – NYC – Dieseliner (1950)
191/247 …...#43 Ad – AT&SF – El Capitan (1949)
193/254 ..... #44 Ad – SP – Golden State (1949)
194/250 …...#45 Ad – Rock Island – Golden State (1949)
196 …….…. #46 Ad – Canadian Pacific (1949)
197/260 ……#47 Ad – NP – Yellowstone (1949)
199 …….…. #48 Ad – British Railways (1949)
200 ……….. #49 Ad – UP – Bryce Canyon (1949)
.……….…… #50 Ad – Southern (1949)
209 …….…. #51 Ad – CP (1963)
.………….… #52 Ad – EMD (1948)
210 ……….. #53 Ad – CNR (1949)
211/234 ..... #54 Ad – B&O (1946)
212 …….…. #55 Ad – Pullman (1946)
218 …….…. #56 Ad – CP (1965)
219 …….…. #57 Ad – SP (1946)
222/260 …...#58 Ad – NP (1947)
222/240 ….. #59 Ad – NYC (1954)
224 ……….. #60 Ad – Great Britain: LMS – LNER (1933)
225 …….…. #61 Ad – UP (1933)
228 …….…. #62 Ad – California Zephyr (1949)
.………….… #63 Ad – Budd Company (1949)
229 ……….. #64 Ad – Pullman Company (1949)
230 …….…. #65 Ad – Milwaukee Road (1933)
231 …….…. #66 Ad – Swiss Federal Railways (1933)
239 …….…. #67 Ad – SP (1948)
249 ……….. #68 Ad – NYC (1954)
254 ……….. #69 Ad – Railways of France (1933)
256 ……….. #70 Ad – CNR (1933)
258 ……….. #71 Ad – L M S and L N E R (1933)


Canadian RR events, history & Railways of the Past

215 …….…. Significant events in Canadian RR History (Jan): Part I of II, 1800s to 1900
216 …….…. Significant events in Canadian RR History (Jan): Part II of II, 1900s to present
241 ……….. This day in Canadian RR History (Feb 8th): Hinton train collision
243 ……….. Significant events in Canadian RR History (Feb)
246 ……….. Canadian Railways of the Past #1 – CNoR
249 ……….. Canadian Railways of the Past #2 – NAR


Railroads from Yesteryear

233 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #1 – B&O
234 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #2 – C&O
237 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #3 – PRR
240 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #4 – NYC
242 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #5 – NH
246 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #6 – ATSF
253 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #7 – SP
259 ……….. Railroads from Yesteryear #8 – NP


Railways of Europe

247 ……….. Railways of Europe #1 – British Rail
248 ……….. Railways of Europe #2 – Eurostar (London-Paris-Brussels)
255 ……….. Railways of Europe #3 – TGV of France


The Mentor Village Gazette

165 ……….. Vol I, Number 1 – November 17th, 2005
188 ……….. Vol I, Number 2 – December 12th, 2005
208 ……….. Vol II, Number 1 – January 2nd, 2006
236 ……….. Vol II, Number 2 – February 2nd, 2006


NOTE:

trolleyboy Rob’s Barn - passengerfan Al’s Streamliner Corner & barndad Doug’s Roundhouse have individual Indexes


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]