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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 10, 2006 9:06 AM
Special for marthastrainyard . . .

This Thread always appreciates the arrival of newcomers. However we are not quite like the other Threads in that this is an interactive site where the guys recognize and acknolwedge one another's efforts. (At least we try to live up to that!)

We do not make a habit of responding to those who have little or nothing in their "profiles" to enable us to get to "know" them. A majority of our "regulars" provide lots of information and of course, a means to communicate by Email should the need arise.

If you decide to stop back - take a look at how we started out by visiting and reading the Page One entries. Then review the last several Pages (maybe 10 should do it) just to give you some idea about how this adult "cyber bar 'n grill" operates where the "theme" is Classic Trains with some fun thrown in.


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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 10, 2006 8:59 AM
Good Morning Gents!

A brilliant blue sky, temps on the rise and we seem to be heading back to spring-like days and nights after a brief bout with frost in the mornings. Mid-continent USA is blooming and the “south forty” took me a bit longer than usual to mow yesterday afternoon. BUT – the exercise did some good![swg]


I won’t lay claim to a successful weekend – that can be left to those who helped keep us operating. We had some fantastic Pix yesterday and great narratives to go with ‘em from Doug. That series of Pix on the Verde Canyon RR was indeed a special treat! Well done![tup][tup][tup] As always, you certainly seem to “thrive” on these Sunday Photo Posting Days![swg]


Your parents really provided us with some wonderful Pix and you put a lot of effort into that ‘spread.’ Some very rugged landscapes – good looking cars – and all in all an experience we got to ‘share’ with Mom & Pop Barndad![swg][tup][tup][tup]

This morning's entry is good reading - Silver Engine![tup] Joke[?][tdn][swg]

Count Robulla seems to like the nocturnal life for even when not working, his Posts came in the dark![swg] Always good stuff with the Pix and oh yes – thanx for those ENCOREs! on Saturday nite!![tup][tup][tup]

Thanx for the RDC shots – I never get tired looking at ‘em! Much more fun to travel in ‘em, tho . . . The 2nd shot looks like a PGE, what’s the 1st[?] Also liked those SEPTA PCC s – nice “clean” design and they just look good to me![tup][tup][tup] So, who’s the guy with the father-in-law[?] YOU![?] Say it isn’t so …. [swg] Well, now you won’t have to put a sign around your neck when we meet up at Pearson International, eh[?]<grin>


Must admit that I wondered whether the day would wind up being a “bust” – and I’m not sure of the “success” overall. The idea of Sunday Photo Posting Day! is to get the Pix up and Posted between sunrise and sunset. Post ‘em when there are people to view ‘em, so to speak. Also, “shot gun Posting” really doesn’t do a thing to help keep our Thread “up” on the Forum page if several hours elapse between submissions. Oh well, this plea hasn’t made a “dent,” so best to just let it go . . .


Lars You’ve become quite the dependable guy ‘round here and it hasn’t gone unnoticed. Providing a mid-day (morning or afternoon) visit really does help with the Thread being “up” on the page and of course, we look forward to your submissions![tup]

Apparently Wolfman Pete was the sole “browser” yesterday. Just one guy from all we call “regulars.” Appreciate your patronage, Mate! Your Pix were well done and I look forward to MORE!![swg][tup]


Okay boyz, I’ll be behind the bar for the day!


Later![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by marthastrainyard on Monday, April 10, 2006 8:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by coalminer3
Now let’s turn to one other name – Ambroid. They had all sorts of kits. The ones I recall doing most were of passenger cars which closely resembled the old wooden cars on the B&M. I built, over the years, a bunch of these for different folks. Never kept one for myself though. They offered a coach and a combine which, with a little patience built up into a nice looking model. They also did some freight car kits as well. I have some of these - unopened - but for the life of me can't remember what they are.

Good Morning folks,

Pardon a newcomer for butting in, but when I hear Ambroid my ears perk up.

Ambroid certainly made some freight cars as well. Of the 84, or so, kits they made, only 3 were passenger cars (the ones coalminer3 mentioned), all the others were freight cars. They made cars in H0, S, and 0 scale, although the vast majority were H0. I won't take your time with boring details, but if you are interested, I have collected some information about the kits on my website. http://home.att.net/~pers_home/
Feel free to come on over and take a look.
Home of the Ambroid history page and the up-and-coming City Of Los Angeles from 1950 http://www.trainweb.org/ambroidkits/ My pictures are here http://www.flickr.com/photos/8514678@N08/
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 10, 2006 5:50 AM

from: www.viarail.ca


We open at 6 AM. (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


MONDAYs INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


Daily Wisdom

After some folks tell you all they know, they keep on talkin’.[swg]


”Our” Place” ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION is Wednesday, April 12th!


Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear – Illinois Central arrives Tuesday!

* Weekly Calendar:

Wednesday: 1st Year Anniversary Celebration!
(Pike Perspective’s Day NEXT week!)
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday


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Comedy Corner

Yarns from the Barn
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[:I] Pedro was driving down the street in a panic because he had an important meeting and couldn't find a parking place. Looking up toward heaven, he said "Lord, take pity on me. If you find me a parking place I will go to Mass every Sunday for the rest of my life and give up tequila." Miraculously, a parking place appeared. Pedro looked up again and said "Never mind. I found one." [:I]


[:I] The husband and wife go to a counselor after 15 years of marriage. The counselor asks them what the problem is and the wife goes into a tirade listing every problem they have ever had in the 15 years they've been married. She goes on and on and on. Finally, the counselor gets up, goes around the desk, embraces the woman and kisses her passionately. The woman shuts up and sits quietly in a daze. The counselor turns to the husband and says "That is what your wife needs at least three times a week. Can you do that?" The husband thinks for a moment and replies, "Well, I can get her here Monday and Wednesday, but Friday, I golf " [:I]


[:I] An old man lying on his deathbed summoned his doctor, lawyer and his priest. He handed each of them an envelope containing $30,000. "Gentlemen, they say you can't take it with you but I am going to try. When they lower my casket into the ground I want each of you to toss in the envelope I gave you. After the funeral the doctor confessed to the other two "We needed money to build a new clinic, so I kept $20,000 and only threw in $10,000." The Priest also confessed "We needed renovations at the the church so I kept $10,000 and only threw in $20,000." The lawyer shook his head in disgust. "Gentlemen I am ashamed of you...I threw in a check for the full amount" [:I]


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre

NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, April 9th thru April 15th: The Harvey Girls (1946) starring: Judy Garland, John Hodiak & Ray Bolger –and- The Train (1964) starring: Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield & Jeanne Moreau. SHORT: Woman Haters (1934).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) barndad Doug Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 05:54:12 (297) Verde Canyon RR - 5 Pix!

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 05:55:23 (297) 6 more Pix!

(3) barndad Doug Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 05:56:40 (297) 11 more Pix!

(4) barndad Doug Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 05:57:57 (297) 5 more Pix!

(5) barndad Doug Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 05:59:29 (297) 7 more Pix!

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 06:51:35 (298) [/blue]Sunday’s Info & Summary[/blue]

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 08:22:36 (298) Now Playing at the Gazette!

(8) barndad Doug Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 09:44:02 (298) 9 Pix & joke!

(9) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 11:45:21 (298) 8 ENCORE Pix

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 15:34:50 (298) 8 Pix from Pete!

(11) pwolfe Pete Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 17:50:27 (298) Pix comments, etc.

(12) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 21:59:30 (298) 4 Pix!

(13) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 22:23:06 (298) 8 Pix!

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 09 Apr 2006, 22:52:03 (298) 5 Pix!



That’s it! [tup][;)]


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 10, 2006 5:49 AM
Good morning Tom and all! I best begin this week with 2 light breakfasts, as it promises to be quite hectic, and I will need the energy. Bet you thought it was because I eat too much (which is also true). Great dome pix from Lars and interesting Jeff City shots from Pete (thanks for posting them Tom). Then there were many, many great shots from Rob (as usual). Well done again gents!

Here's a little something to read with your morning coffee. This article goes to show you just how little difference even a famous engine was treated when it became obsolete.

The Silver Engine November 1945 Railroad Magazine

Bright spring sunlight danced on the silver jacket of the Rock Island’s eight-wheeled America as she streaked across the state of Iowa on her maiden run between Chicago and the newly finished Missouri River terminal at Council Bluffs


Three-quarters of a century ago, a silver engine named America revived in Europe the legendary tales of new-world treasure. Awarded highest honors at the International Exposition held in Paris in 1867, she returned home triumphantly to become the boast and revenue-winner of the Rock Island.

The Grant Locomotive Works of Paterson, N.J., built the America as an exibit for Paris. Her boiler, steam chest, dome and smokestack were covered with a sheet of genuine silver, while parts necessarily composed of steel were polished until they shone like precious metal. On either side of the tender was painted the word America.

When the Rock Island purchased this engine in 1869 for $10,000, the road’s equipment was a long way off from the stainless steel Rockets on today’s roster. The silver engine drew crowds to greet her arrival at La Salle Street station in Chicago, when she was delivered in May. Then on June 4th, the America pulled out with a special seven-car train, bound for the newly finished Missouri River terminal at Council Bluffs, Ia., on a maiden run from Chicago. This trip also marked the completion of the rail link between Iowa and the East.

Engineer Henry Knickerbocker and his fireman, Albert Lund, rode the engine. On board the special were John F. Tracy, president of the road; Mr. Grant, head of the firm that had outshopped the locomotive; the Rock Island board of directors, as well as numerous city officials. There were comfortable seats built up in the left-hand side of the cab, where ladies might – and did – ride in ease.

Nearing Colona, Ill., her fuel supply was exhausted. Cord wood lay in piles along the tracks at frequent intervals for refueling, so the brass hats doffed their coats and helped the crew load the tender. During the one-night stand in Davensport, Ia., every available man was at work repolishing the silver, and the next day the America reached Council Bluffs her armor shining.

In 871, the America raced a North Western engine to determine which line had the best running average between Chicago and Council Bluffs. This time a 19-year-old engineer brought the Rock Island train through nine hours ahead of her rival. On the return trip, the silver locomotive won by twenty-seven hours, the North Western being derailed into a ditch.

The race created great interest along the Rock Island route. The clear-toned music of the silver bell lined the right-of-way with thousands of people who caught its excitement. Besides increasing her popularity, the America’s race captured a lucrative government contract for the Rock Island carrying U.S. mail westward from Chicago.

For some years, the silver engine continued in service. Finally, however, it became impractical to employ engine men and hostilers to do the polishing needed to keep her from tarnishing. The brilliant silver jacket was stripped off, and there-after she was known simply as Number 109; as such stayed in service till 1900.

But after the turn of the century, her boiler was used to run a water pump on a canal at Blue Island, Ill.; and when an explosion blasted a hole in the side of Number 109’s boiler, the Rock Island ordered her junked. Originally built for over $30,000, the America was sold to a Blue Island florist for $85. Her next five years were spent supplying heat for his greenhouses, before she refused to function altogether. Just forty years after her historic entrance, the America was cut in pieces to facilitate hauling her to the scrap pile.

[:I] A man appeared before St. Peter at the pearly gates. "Have you ever done anything of particular merit?" St. Peter asked.
"Well, I can think of one thing," the man offered.
"Once, on a trip to the Black Hills out in South Dakota, I came upon a gang of bikers, who were threatening a young woman. I directed them to leave her alone, but they wouldn't listen. So, I approached the largest and most heavily tattooed biker and smacked him on the head, kicked his bike over, ripped out his nose ring, and threw it on the ground. I yelled, "Now, back off!! Or you'll answer to me!"
St. Peter was impressed, "When did this happen?"
"Just a couple minutes ago." [:I]
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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:52 PM
Hi again folks Pete that's some good looking shots from in and around your area. Those coal train shots out to turn the crank of our resident coal mining fanatic. Doug I have to say a fine effort put forth by yourseif today as well,nice photo of that McKeen car,I remember the disscussions we had about them last year,nice to see a shot of one in the flesh as it were.

Here's a few more random shots from my photo archieves as well.

[img[http://www.railimages.com/albums/robertaustin/aei.jpg[/img]







All shots from a musuem charter in philladelphia on the SEPTA,this charter was on the last day of operations of PCC's on the third and tenth ave routes in 1992. These lines and most of the PCC's have been reactivated in late 2004 and are running again. One city doing the right thing.[tup]



Shot of NY City Third Ave Railway Saftey car that is preserved at Rockhill Trolley Museum.photo by Museum member harry Glover



Shot of some of the Lowell Mass musuem's cars. this is a musuem that acts as a transportation system as well. Shot os also from Harry.

Enjoy Rob
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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:23 PM
One more set of random shots from me this evning as well the rest of the page still ahsn't loaded up for me to many "big pictures I guess "





Couple of RDC shots for the bossman[:D]



Shot of AC #1 canyon train crossing the Montreal River oct 2002



Shot of the Montreal river in tha Agawa canyon from same trip



Ontario southlands RS23 and their jordan Spreader at the Elgin County Museum in St Thomas on. Engine still painted in CPR colours.



OSR RS 23's at Guelph Jct after repainting



OSR RS23 side view at Guelph Jct



OSR's inspection car at Guelph Jct

enjoy Rob
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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:59 PM
Good evening folks,I'm in later than I wanted but family obligations come first. I haven't viewed everyones shots yet, but what i've seen some good stuff. Doug lots o neat stuff from the verde canyon,loce those budds abd the F's.lars some nice shots of the domecars et all from yourself as well today.Here's my forst set of shoys while I wait for the rest of the page to load so I can see the rest of the days submissions.



The Portage flyers saddle tanker at the train shed.



The Portage flyers coach Algonquin



The Portage Flyers coach Iroquois



Shot of Myself and my Father in Law taken last summer on JR's ( CS member ) trip up with his son
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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:50 PM
HI Tom and all.

I was on line early today but the puter got so excited at the Mighty Shrews win against the arch-rials Wrectum that it jammed up the only way we could cure it was turning the [censored] thing off.

ROB Thanks for the Classic Juice and Steam Encores. The descriptions of the engine workings are great, we are lucky someone took details of them at the time.

You were right DOUG your photos today are special. Will you give my thanks to your parents for sharing the great Verde Canyon Railroad photos with us. What a wonderful scenic line and the photos with the rainbow in [wow].your description of the locos, cars and the history of the line is much appriciated too. Also a collection of some old and very interesting photos. Many thanks [tup][tup][tup].

LARS Thanks for the Dome Encores. Great cars well worth another look.

TOM Lovely VIA rail photo.It will be great to see it again when the weather turns hot.
Another great week at the Emporium. "10 cents is 10 cents" as the old French loco engineer said in The Train.and in the description of The Harvey Girls isn't "Rambunctious" a great word. The Stooges looks a good one too.

Many thanks for posting the Jefferson pics they were taken at the new park on the site of the first bridge to cross the Missouri at Jeff.PHOTO7.
There is sign showing the bridge PHOTO 5 and one showing the area as it was PHOTO 6 in the top center is a photo of the old MP roundhouse in PHOTO 8 is the site today.
PHOTOS 1&3 is a East-bound loaded coal train with loco #5901 at the rear.
PHOTO 2 is consecutivly numbered locos #2061 & 2062 which later worked the frieght to the local factories etc.(after dark).
PHOTO 5 is todays two road bridges across the river with a barge going to collect a load from a dredger THANKS again TOM [tup]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 9, 2006 3:34 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Here are some Pix that Wolfman Pete took last week and forwarded to me for Posting via Email. The area is Jefferson City, Missouri, along the Union Pacific right-of-way along the Missouri River . . . .


(1) UP coal train




(2) UP motive power




(3) UP coal train




(4) Twin bridges to JCity




(5) Historic Boliver Street Bridge display




(6) Historic Boliver Street display





(7) Memorial scenic overlook




(8) Missouri State Capitol




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Enjoy![tup]


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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:45 AM
Good Afternoon Tom and all assembled waiting for the bar to open![swg]

On this day - still a religious holiday for many - I thought that rather than spend an inordinate amount of time putting together a pix spread, that perhaps an "ENCORE" presentation would be in order.

Tom said he would be 'scarce' this weekend and looks as if he is keeping his word. Looks as if Doug had an early reveille at his house as demonstrated by all of those posts to start the day![tup]

Time for mine . . . then I too will 'close up' and enjoy this Sunday with family.

Posted: 15 Jan 2006, page 220

-1- Wabash #200 (1956, Moberly, MO)



-2- #200 as Amtrak #9560 (1972, Newport News, VA)



- 3- Former Wabash #201 as N&W #1611


-4- Former Wabash #201 as Amtrak #9561




Posted: 22 Jan 2006, page 227

-1- GN #1320 (from: www.trainweb.org)


-2- GN #1321 (from: www.trainweb.org)


-3- GN #1322 (from: www.trainweb.org)


-4- GN #1323 (from: www.trainweb.com)



Until the next time![tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:44 AM
Wow! Slow start on the pix today. Liked your movie pix Tom. Here's an assortment of "stuff"

An improvised tank car on the Nevada Central


Rolling stock becomes floating stock – three box cars of lumber tumbled off a barge during a recent storm near Vancouver, B.C. They had to be towed in by tugboats!


A McKeen motorcar waits on a siding at Reno


Bomb tossed freight car atop another at Mayen, Germany


The Nashville, built by Cuyahoga in 1852, pulled the Lincoln funeral train from Cleveland to Columbus, Ohio, on the Cleveland, Columbus & Cincinnati Railroad in 1865


This is the experimental “Railplane” of the Pullman Car Co., a light-weight, high-speed gas buggy designed to take the place of a small steam train.


Polished like a ballroom floor, smooth as an eel, the New Haven’s “Rail Zeppelin” is just about the slickest streamlined train so far. It has motors and a control room at each end.


New York Central rotary snow plow X-660, built by Alco in 1926. Total weight 166,000 pounds. Cylinders 17X22 inches. Wheel diameter 9 feet 8 ½ inches. Boiler pressure 190 pounds.


This one-man switcher is being tried out by the German State Rys. It has a six horse-power gas engine and a single rubber-tired driver. It makes a simple proposition out of shunting individual cars.


[:I] Three women die together in an accident and go to heaven. When they get there, St. Peter says, "We only have one rule here in heaven: don't step on the ducks!" So they enter heaven, and sure enough, there are ducks all over the place. It is almost impossible not to step on a duck, and although they try their best to avoid them, the first woman accidentally steps on one. Along comes St. Peter with the ugliest man she ever saw. St. Peter chains them together and says, "Your punishment for stepping on a duck is to spend eternity chained to this ugly man!" The next day, the second woman steps accidentally on a duck and along comes St. Peter, who doesn't miss a thing. With him is another extremely ugly man. He chains them together with the same admonishment as for the first woman. The third woman has observed all this and, not wanting to be chained for all eternity to an ugly man, is very, VERY careful where she steps. She manages to go months without stepping on any ducks, but one day St. Peter comes up to her with the most handsome man she has ever laid eyes on ... very tall, long eyelashes, muscular, and thin. St. Peter chains them together without saying a word. The happy woman says, "I wonder what I did to deserve being chained to you for all of eternity?" The guy says, "I don't know about you, but I stepped on a duck!" [:I]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 9, 2006 8:22 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s -
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!


The Harvey Girls (1946)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: This glorified Technicolor commercial for the Fred Harvey restaurants stars Judy Garland as a 19th-century mail-order bride. Upon arriving in New Mexico, Garland discovers that her husband-to-be is the town drunk. She cuts her losses and takes a job at the local Harvey restaurant, an establishment which endeavors to bring a little civilization and class to the wide open spaces. Harvey's operation is challenged by saloon-owner John Hodiak, corrupt-judge Preston S. Foster, and local-madam Angela Lansbury. With the help of tenderfoot Ray Bolger, Garland and her fellow waitresses foil the corrupt elements in town. Prominent in the supporting cast are Cyd Charisse, Marjorie Main, Chill Wills, Kenny Baker and Virginia O'Brien (whose musical numbers aren't quite as rambunctious as the contributions of the others, mainly because O'Brien was pregnant during filming). The songs are for the most part perfunctory, with the spectacular exception of the Harry Warren and Johnny Mercer's Oscar-winning "Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe."

From: All Movie Guide



The Train (1965)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: John Frankenheimer directs Burt Lancaster in the tense spy thriller The Train. Lancaster plays Labiche, a French railway inspector. Allied forces are threatening to liberate Paris, so Col. Franz von Waldheim (Paul Scofield) is ordered to move the priceless works of art from the Jeu de Paume Museum to the fatherland. The head of the museum (Suzanne Flon) attempts to convince Labiche that he should sabotage the train on which they are transporting the art. Labiche is more focused on destroying a trainload of German weapons. After his friend is killed trying to stop the train with the art, and after a consciousness-raising conversation with a hotel owner (Jeanne Moreau), Labiche resolves to save the antiquities.

From: All Movie Guide



Three Stooges Short Subject: Woman Haters (1934)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly
Moe, Larry and Curly join the Woman Haters Club, pledging their money and vowing that they'll never take a wife. Larry soon reneges when he secretly marries his sweetheart named Mary. Larry takes his bride with him on a sales trip/honeymoon and tries to hide his marriage from Moe and Curly, who happen to be on the train. Mary learns of Larry's secret and suckers both Moe and Curly into romancing her. She then tells them that Larry's her husband and their deal is off because everyone cheated, then shoves Moe and Curly out the train window.




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Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 9, 2006 6:51 AM

from: www.viarail.ca


We open at 6 AM on Monday. (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


We are CLOSED on Sunday however, we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day![tup]


Daily Wisdom

After some folks tell you all they know, they keep on talkin’.[swg]


”Our” Place” ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION is Wednesday, April 12th!


Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear – Illinois Central arrives Tuesday!

* Weekly Calendar:

Wednesday: 1st Year Anniversary Celebration!
(Pike Perspective’s Day NEXT week!)
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday


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Comedy Corner

Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)


[:I] Pedro was driving down the street in a panic because he had an important meeting and couldn't find a parking place. Looking up toward heaven, he said "Lord, take pity on me. If you find me a parking place I will go to Mass every Sunday for the rest of my life and give up tequila." Miraculously, a parking place appeared. Pedro looked up again and said "Never mind. I found one." [:I]


[:I] The husband and wife go to a counselor after 15 years of marriage. The counselor asks them what the problem is and the wife goes into a tirade listing every problem they have ever had in the 15 years they've been married. She goes on and on and on. Finally, the counselor gets up, goes around the desk, embraces the woman and kisses her passionately. The woman shuts up and sits quietly in a daze. The counselor turns to the husband and says "That is what your wife needs at least three times a week. Can you do that?" The husband thinks for a moment and replies, "Well, I can get her here Monday and Wednesday, but Friday, I golf " [:I]


[:I] An old man lying on his deathbed summoned his doctor, lawyer and his priest. He handed each of them an envelope containing $30,000. "Gentlemen, they say you can't take it with you but I am going to try. When they lower my casket into the ground I want each of you to toss in the envelope I gave you. After the funeral the doctor confessed to the other two "We needed money to build a new clinic, so I kept $20,000 and only threw in $10,000." The Priest also confessed "We needed renovations at the the church so I kept $10,000 and only threw in $20,000." The lawyer shook his head in disgust. "Gentlemen I am ashamed of you...I threw in a check for the full amount" [:I]


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. . . Sunday, April 9th thru April 15th: The Harvey Girls (1946) starring: Judy Garland, John Hodiak & Ray Bolger –and- The Train (1964) starring: Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield & Jeanne Moreau. SHORT: Woman Haters (1934).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 05:37:00 (297) ENCORE! Classic Juice #22 PreHistory of TTC, part II

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 07:20:52 (297) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 08:00:47 (297) ENCORE! Saturday – Fallen Flag: MONON

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 09:17:27 (297) ENCORE! Saturday – Ad: PRR Broadway Ltd (1949)

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 11:14:25 (297) ENCORE! Saturday – Ad – British Rail (1948)

(6) pwolfe Pete Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 11:26:11 (297) Inclusive Post

(7) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 11:39:48 (297) Lars Report!

(8) barndad Doug Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 18:14:44 (297) ENCORE! Caboose History – Inclusive Post & joke!

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 18:45:49 (297) Acknowledgments, etc.

(10) West Coast S Dave Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 19:07:45 (297) SP cabooses, etc.

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 20:02:05 (297) etc.

(12) pwolfe Pete Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 20:48:02 (297) Pete’s Post

(13) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 21:11:17 (279) Inclusive Post

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 21:21:58 (279 ENCORE! Classic Juice #23 – PreHistory of TTC, part III

(15) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Apr 2006, 21:32:29 (297) ENCORE! CNR Steam #10 – CNR Special Freights, part II



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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:59 AM
The railroad was often referred to as the “Verde Mix” because it carried a diverse mixture of product and people. Senator Clark often brought his 73-foot private car, the Pullman Palace, to Clarkdale – always an attraction.

An unusual variation of steam engines, the heartbeat of the railroad, graced the Verde tracks. The Mallet engine (pronounced Mal-ee) was purchased in 1920 and sold in 1942. Unfortunately, the Mallet took two weeks to make its maiden voyage from Jerome to Clarksdale because it kept kicking out the rail. The direct drive Climax engine was used to build the line from Clarksdale to Jerome because it was very efficient on tight curves.

As passengers depart from the depot, the remains of the old United Verde Copper Company still stand. The smelter remained in operation from 1914 to 1953 and was closed by present owner, Phelps Dodge.

The smelter which initiated the construction of the town of Clarksdale, named after Senator Clark, was located just below the Jerome mines. Used until 1952, the smelter had its final 400-foot high stack blown in 1962 signaling the end of an era and an industry on which a community had been built and prospered.

The Santa Fe Railroad serviced the Phoenix Cement Company, (now Salt River Materials) the line’s primary shipper, until 1988 when it was purchased by the Clarksdale Arizona Central Railroad, also owned by Dave Durbano.

The Verde Canyon Railroad, the excursion operation on the line, marks the beginning of a new era of service dedicated to keeping the past alive by making great strides into the future. The railway, once used solely as a transportation corridor, has now become one of Arizona’s most scenic attractions. The preservation of the Verde Canyon, the Railroad and its history, is sustained by the appreciation of passengers as they view this protected ecosystem and wilderness area firsthand.

Awareness creates appreciation and appreciation creates longevity. The Verde Canyon Railroad:It’s not the destination, it’s the journey.













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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:57 AM
Not only is a ride on the Verde Canyon Railroad a trip into a Southwest geological mecca rich with indigenous flora and fauna, it is a glimpse back in time, as the railroad was instrumental in the development of the Verde Valley. The standard gauge railway, owned by David L. Durbano, has always played an important role in the community. With the addition of the Verde Canyon excursion trains, which started on Friday, November 23, 1990, the Railroad has found a permanent place in the preservation of its history and the future of the Verde Valley.

The railroads of north central Arizona were originally built to support the bustling mining activities in Jerome. The first major mining claims, located on Mingus Mountain, were registered in 1876. At that time, the nearest railroad station was in Pueblo, Colorado, and the rugged area remained inaccessible, even by road.

The first narrow gauge, the Atlantic and Pacific Railroad, was completed in 1882, connecting Jerome to Ashfork. The line was eventually extended to Jerome Junction, now called Chino Valley. The extension was 25 miles long, had a gradient of four percent in places, and was built at a cost of just over $600,000.

The narrow gauge United Verde & Pacific Railroad, connecting Jerome, was abandoned in 1884 because of a series of mishaps including mine fires. The fires, uncontrollable for many years, made it evident that work could not be maintained underground, either economically of safely.

In 1888, William A. Clark, from Butte, Mont., purchased the United Verde Mine. Within seven years he was netting $1 million per month, but his geologists informed him that the largest lode was located directly under the Jerome smelter.

Construction began on a surface plant in Jerome, a tunnel transfer system known as the “Hopewell Tunnel’” loading facilities at Hope, and three new standard gauge railroads, one being the line presently traveled, connecting the Verde Valley to Drake.

The 38-mile Verde Canyon Railroad from Clarkdale to Drake, financed by Senator Clark and operated by the Santa Fe, Prescott and Phoenix Railroad, was started and completed on one year, from 1911 to 1912, a miraculous feat considering the equipment of the time. It took 250 men using 200 mules, picks and shovels, and lots of DuPont black powder explosives. Total cost of the railroad was $1.3 million. Today, the same railroad would cost in excess of $40 million.










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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:56 AM
Vintage FP7 locomotives, only two of 12 remaining in service in North America, are the mainstay of the Verde Canyon Railroad’s excursion train. After three months of restoration, the classic iron horses made their debut on the Verde Canyon Railroad on March 8, 1997.

(1)Second livery photo taken on August 16, 1971. Anchorage, Alaska, Alaska Railroad. (2) Anchorage, Alaska. September 15, 1983. Alaska Railroad. (3) Centennial, Wyoming, June 19, 1988. Mountain Diesel. (4) Laramie, Wyoming. September 4, 1990. Wyoming-Colorado Railroad. (5) Laramie, Wyoming, July 6, 1994. Wyoming-Colorado Railroad

Photographs by Alan Miller


Picture of a picture of today’s engine


Wonderful rainbow and consist shots (WTG dad!)






Arizona scenery along the Verde Canyon Railroad












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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:55 AM
The third passenger car is the historic caboose, not originally intended as a mode of transportation for passengers. This car holds a maximum of six people, all in the same party. Passengers on the caboose have access to the cupola seating with an aerial view of the train as it passes through the scenic canyon.



All cars have been updated for passenger comfort. Coach-class cars have two seats on each side of the center aisle and snack-bars. First class cars have plush, living-room-style seating, a full-service bar and complimentary appetizers. All cars are climate-controlled, have restrooms, panoramic windows and access open-air viewing cars. The train also meets ADA requirements.

In addition to great service, car attendants give passengers a glimpse into the rich history and unique geology of the chasm, and a keen insight into the canyon’s endangered feathered inhabitants.










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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 9, 2006 5:54 AM
The following pictures were all taken by my parents (Don and Mary Secrist) while riding the Verde Canyon Railroad about a week ago.

The Verde Canyon has three types of passenger cars: Pullman Standard, Budd Stainless Steel and a refurbished AC & F caboose.

The Pullman Standard coaches, built in 1946 and 1947, were originally used in a commuter capacity along the eastern seaboard. Today, they are part of the Verde Canyon Railroad, as both coach and first-class cars.

Some of the Budd Stainless Steel cars built in the late 1930s and ‘40s, carried passengers along Santa Fe’s “El Capitan” route between Chicago and Los Angeles. All of these coaches are first-class cars.










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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, April 8, 2006 9:32 PM
I think one more encore before I shut it down for the day,been a long one and I'm beat.

ENCORE ! ENCORE !

A classic steam encore to wind out this saturday's broadcasting day for me.
Enjoy see many of you I hope for the picture fest tomorrow.

Rob

Classic CNR Steam # 10 CNR speacial Frights Part 2

Merriton Switcher

Niagara Falls - Merriton,later known as the Niagara Falls-Merriton Road switcher. Night assignment through 1952,became evening assignment during the first half of 1953. Normally ran as a caboose hop to Merriton.Switched cars off the NS&T transfer ( CN trains used front tracks of station. Thje NS&T passenger cars off the interurban district loaded behind the station and they owned the yard. Station was a standard GT type two located right in the Grimsby sub mainline,sane type as Museumm's rockwood statton. Merriton station burnt down in 1998).This train then lined up cars for road trains 464 and 461. After the last NS&T job arrived and the transfer was clear, the switcher switched out any set offs and placed them in the yard for the NS&T's specific customers. Untill spring of 1954, the switcher waited for an express car off #84,then helped 461 make a set off.Niagara Falls bound cars were put onto train 461 to allieviate the beed for a pilot on the switcher. Switcher followed 461 into Niagara Falls as a caboose hop. After the spring of 1954 the Merriton switcher began returning to the falls at midnight, powered by Consolidations until deisilization.

Pilot Assignments

Operated between Niagara Falls , Merriton , and Thorold. Typically a morning and afternoon assignment.Most often a heavy Mikado assigned to Niagara falls,but any available power laying over from other assignments could be used. This was a helper for the Thorold sub hill that climbed the escarpment by lock 7 of the Welland canal. 2-3.5% grade worst in S Ontario.

Toronto-St Catharines Fruit Extras

Less-than-carload express pickup train,operated in season.Engine several "blowers" and/pr express refridgerator cars and rider coach left Toronto in the morning.Empty cars were left at points along the Grimsby subdivision. Lifted carload traffic as well.Fruit was destined for Toronto and beyond. Normal power was a light Pacific through 1655 season. SW1200RS took over after1956 no coach at this point.

Hamiltin-St Catharines Fruit Extras

Operated Hamilton-Mimico via St Catharines during the peak fruit season,this train ran almost daily. Ordered for early afternoon out of Hamilton as a caboose hop,tender first! ( occationally empties were set off but not often )Proceeded to Jordan,St Catharines,or Merriton as ordered. Lifted loaded express refridgerator cars of fruit all the way to Winnona.Whenever possible,the dispatcher issued a work order for both tracks.Once off the Grimsby sub,train highballed to Mimico,with the exception of a stop at the canal on the Beach sub( Burlington Bay ). At Mimico, a new engine and caboose took over the train,which wasted little time in proceeding to Montreal.Usually powered by a light Pacific ( occationally a Mogul or Consolidation ) all engines assigned to Hamilton. Northerns or better took over at Mimico. Train was dieselized in 1958.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, April 8, 2006 9:21 PM
ENCORE ! ENCORE ! The third part of the TTC encores,this one also posted originally on page 249

CLASSIC JUICE # 23 PRE HISTORY OF THE TTC PT 3


The Toronto Transportation Commission 1921-1953 & The Toronto Transit Commission 1954 to the Preasant


With four different compnaies controlling nine different systems, of public transportation in Toronto, the city was in utter chaos. The cost to the public for rides to work, and home,was becomming inreasingly difficult to uphold so something had to be done.Citizens exercised their voting franchise on Jan 1 ,1920 and decided that all of Toronto's public transportation systems should be placed under the direction of one organization. By this vote, the Toronto Transportation Commision was created.

On sept 1,1921, the new Commission took over all the operations of the TRC and Civic Lines. It introduced the new Peter Witt streetcars which were a complete improvement over any of the older cars then in service. New Routes were introduced: trackwork was heavily replaced between 1921-23, and routes were aquired from the TSR in 1923, and the T&Y RR in 1927.


Other improvements included the withdrawl of many older cars and old horsecar trailers; the introduction of new Witt trailers on the busy Collage and Yonge street lines and the building of new loops and carhouse properties.Finally a new centralized repair facility was built at Bathurst street and Davenport road known as Hillcrest Shops to replace the worn-out scattered ones of the TRC shops at Front and Frederick Streets.

In 1938, the TTC was instrumental in the introduction of a new streetcar design known as the PCC ( presidents Conbferance committee car )which in one fell swoop,banished other streetcar designs to the past. During the war years, the TTC maintained it's fleet, ordered new cars ( PCC's ), introduced women to the workforce as car operators and trainmen ( even in the shops )and made plans for future expansion of the system.

In 1953, the Metropolitan system of government was introduced to Toronto and the Toronto Transportation Commission, which had the original mandate to run Toronto's public transit gained authority over the transit systems of the entire metro area, so was revamped into the Toronto Transit Commission.

In 1954 the Yonge Subwaysystem openned becomming the forerunner of modern rapid transit in Canda.In 1963came the University Subway,followed by the Bloor/Danforth line in 1966.The Spadina extention in 1978 and the Bloor-danforth extensions in 1968 and 1980. Extensions of the original Yonge line were completed in 1973-74. Other changes continue to this day Shepard Ave subway openned in 2003.b The TTC subsidiary Gray Coach Lines provides bus service outside of the Toronto area.Many of the older surface lines weer abandoned with the oppening of the Bloor-Danforth and yonge subway lines as car and truck traffic impeeded the steady floor of the transit system ( an estimated 1m people a day use the TTC subways alone ! )


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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, April 8, 2006 9:11 PM
Good evening folks,got back in much later than I had originally planned[V]I'll pop for a round of wiggly pop for all that are interested ( beer of your choice for those who don't speak Canadian )[:D]

Tom You popped in a few rapid fire Encores I thought you were taking the day off, good to read them again anyway[tup]
Sounds like you and the Pete's enjoyed your day out together, that's grrreat as one particular tiger used to say.

Doug Great little caboose story,one question however what's wrong with our baseball team. LOL

DaveNice extra on the SP cabooses as well,good to see you around again this weekend.

Pete I'm not sure what actually became of those little sadle tankers,they were bought privatly so I'm not sure if they actually survived or not. Both the replacements are back running in Huntsville,I have some shots I took of them a few years back I'll post them tomorrow .

L:ars I hate it when I loose a post like that,you must not have been using the Bosses paste from your wordprossesor tip. That or Cindy's provocative ensemble perhaps made you hit the wrong key.[;)][:-^]

Rob
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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, April 8, 2006 8:48 PM
Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and a very small steak after the excellent lunch in Hermann.It is a great place with wonderful views, a good atmosphere and company of the very best.
We had a great time TOM. [yeah][tup].

LARS Sorry to hear of the lost post a couple of mine have gone the same way recently.

Thanks DOUG for the caboose encore, well worth reading again and DAVE for the interesting SP caboose info [tup].
Looking forward to the photos tomorrow Doug.

TOM Another Bathams please to round off a great day[tup] PETE.
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 8, 2006 8:02 PM
G'evenin' . . .

Just some "housekeeping" issues - had to make a minor correction to the Summary, which of course once "edited" will call it up as the 1st to show up UNLESS someone Posts later on. Confused[?] You MUST acquire my "Navigating the Kalmbach Forums for Dummies!"[swg]

Nice to see ya this Saturday, Dave and appreciate the info on the SP cabooses (I detest the term, "cabeese") and of course the round!

Saw you "lurking" out there, Nick![swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by West Coast S on Saturday, April 8, 2006 7:07 PM
[:D] It's encore saturday all!! Good cabeese info Barndad, too bad they joined the ranks of the extinct in the quest of progress. SP had an interesting take on the caboose, why buy new when you can build? Home shops produced the CA1,2's the CA41/42's the first of all steel construction. By far were the unique were the passenger equiptment conversions, long after the demise of the Mckeen motor cars, the trailers were outfitted with conventional running gear and window modifications ande classified as branch cabooses. One survived in local service until 1964 and has been preserved with the goal to return to it's as built condition.

SP reassigned long obsolete wooden baggage and coaches as company cabooses, these were assigned to the supply trains that ran constant between the large shops and areas were supplies were not stored in great quanity. These operated every day, often in dedicated consits with equally obsolete freight equiptment. Though restricted, shortages and war could have them on mainline trains.

SP was also known to pull coaches from the commute fleet when cabooses were in short supply, often fruit blocks to Oakland were assigned these, perhaps for the benefit of would be clients in the agriculture industry. The use of lightweight car fromaly from the Sunset Limited or Challenger in similar service was not that unusual and those survived to be further converted into rolling police headquartes to prevet pilferage mainly on the Sunset Route, but I last observed several of these ex-SL cars on the Rio Grande in Utah of all places!!!

SP standarized starting post WWII with purchases from Pullman and International Car Company, so begain the era of the bay window, oddly, Cotton Belt, in 1959 adopted the extended vision design favored by several other roads. These cabooses, C45-C85 class served SP until the end and the last runs have still not occured due to sells to other operators. SP edicts required Daylight Paint be applied to the bay-ends and car ends effective October 1957, all classes were eventually so done, with the exception those operated by the Cotton Belt which retained the as built red colors to the very end . SP, ever the invenator also tested other combinations through the years. Cherry Red with Lark Grey graced several examples of thre class C79 during the late seventies and dispensed with the traditional
orange in favor of a reflective red that waa difficult to discern in bright light, but sure was visible at night!!! For the next run, SP returned to the traditional brown/orange. The first examples of the so called "transfer caboose" design were delivered in a updated version of the classic Daylight colors and were nicknamed "Sunbirds" Alas, these were the last new one's SP would recieve before elimination of all cabooses!!!


Well, there you have it in a nutshell, Tom and all, round of the best ale in the house please


Dave

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:45 PM
Hello Cindy - I'm back and I appreciate your watching the place for me![tup]

Only one visitor since Lars stopped by this morning, eh[?] Doesn't speak very well of my repeated notices in the Sumamries about this weekend . . . . there's a "message" there, somewhere..[:O]

Really appreciate those 3 late nite Posts, Rob and of course your support of our ENCORE! Saturday!

Thanx to you Doub for the late afternoon visit and ENCORE! submission![tup] Anything that deals with cabooses is of interest to me and much appreciated![tup] While I understand the reasons for the elimination of the caboose from the freight train, they just aren't "complete" without one tagging behind., I'll ALWAYS run one on my model railraod - where I make the rules![swg]

Yes, Lars 'n BK came up with a great gesture yesterday and I think it turned out just fine. As someone once said, it's the thought that counts![swg] The Posts were well done and glad to see that I'm not the only one who enjoyed their efforts . . .

Should make mention of the Posts by Rob - Lars 'n Pete this morning![tup][tup]

Good times in Hermann, MO, eh Pete[?][swg] Well worth the 3 hour round trip . . . [tup]

Enjoy the weekend and I'll speak with y'all on Monday . . . unless there's a "rush" to the bar beforehand.[swg]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:14 PM
Good afternoon Tom and gents! I'll have a bottomless draught, and buy a round ... unless someone objects? Sorry to have missed the fun yesterday, but you all know where I was. Two of the members of the Chicago chapter of the Locomotive and Historical Society showed a slide presentation of a trip they took to Pennsylvania on an anual outing with another organization (I forget the name) whose claim to fame is visiting old train depots and other historical buildings of train heritage. This was a 3 1/2 day whirlwind trip by bus, which of course stopped in Altoona and Johnsburg, and many other towns (I'll type a list later). Sure wish I could have brought home the pictures and notes!

Hats off to Lars for his fine RDC and Budd Wikpedia posts, and certainly for his hard work e-mailing of the "Our Place" gang in preparation of the April 12th anniversary! Nice listing of 1950 active anthracite mines Mr. CM3. Good to see Dave, and his SP trivia! Glad you enjoyed "The Rebel" post Peter .. I aim's to please! BK, the Jet powered RDC pix were fantastic, and Mike provided some interting picture links. Nifty RDC pix Mr. Tom, and then great ENCORES on the Hoosier Line, Broadway Limited and British Railway adds! Rob provided some of my favorite ENCORES with his Toronto Street Co. posts! I love all things-Toronto (except their baseball team).

And now ....here's my ENCORE piece. Originally submitted 100 pages ago!

Caboose History -- Rail Classics Magazine Sept.1988

“Caboose,” a strange word for a strange railroad car that somehow survived more that a hundred years from the days of oil-burning lamps to the computer age. Origins of the car and the word are surrounded by as much legend as fact. One popular version dates the word back to the description of a ship’s galley derived from the Dutch word “kabuis.”

The use of cabooses started in the 1830s when railroads housed trainmen in boxcars or flatcars with shanties built on them. (new photo from IRM)


The addition of the cupola – a lookout post atop the car – is attributed to a conductor who discovered in 1863 that he could see his train much better if he sat atop boxes and watched through the hole in the roof of his boxcar. Cabooses served several functions. It was an office for the conductor. A “waybill” followed every car from origin to destination. The conductor kept the paperwork in the caboose.

The car also carried a brakeman and a flagman. In the days when trains did not have automatic air brakes, the engineer signaled the caboose with his whistle when he wanted to slow down or stop. The brakeman would climb out of the caboose and make his was forward on top of the cars, twisting the brake-wheels by using a stout club. A brakeman riding the engine would work his way toward the rear.

Once the train was stopped, the flagman would get off the caboose and walk back a safe distance with lanterns, flags and other warning devices to stop any approaching trains. Underway, the trainmen would sit up in the cupola and watch from smoke from overheated wheel journals, called hot-boxes, or other signs of trouble.

It was common for railroads to assign a caboose to a conductor for his exclusive use. Conductors took great pride in their cars – despite derogatory nick-names, including “crummy, doghouse, bone-breaker, snake wagon and hearse.” Conductors would decorate the interior of their cars with many touches of home, including curtains, family photos and, most importantly, ingredients for cooking meals that became a part of American folklore.

The car served as a “home away from home” for crewmen who slept in the car on trips away from their home terminals. Cabooses became a uniquely American tradition. Overseas, their use was rare or eliminated many years ago. Even in the United States, technological change began eliminating the need for cabooses before the turn of the century. The spread in the 1880s of the automatic air brake system invented by George Westinghouse eliminated the need for brakemen to manually set brakes. Air brakes were soon followed by the use of electric track circuits to activate signals, providing protection for trains and eliminating the need for flagmen.

Trains became longer, making it difficult for the conductor to see his train from the caboose. Freight cars became so high they blocked the view from the traditional cupola. Friction bearings were replaced by roller bearings, reducing the overheated journal and making visual detection by smoke unlikely. The heavy fast trains made on-board cooking hazardous and unnecessary. Cabooses were put into “pools| and not assigned to individual conductors. New labor agreements reduced hours of service and eliminated the need for cabooses for sleeping quarters as a result of lodging provided by the company.

Electronic “hotbox” and dragging equipment detectors were installed along main lines, which could check moving trains more efficiently and reliably than men in cabooses. Computers eliminated the conductor’s paperwork. Cabooses became expensive anachronisms.

The first major railroad in the United States to eliminate cabooses was the Florida East Coast Railway. Because of the technological advances and sweeping local labor changes, FEC dropped the cars in 1972. By the fall of 1982 the nation’s other major railroads and the United Transportation Union, which represents the trainmen who ride in cabooses, reached agreement on guidelines to begin eliminating the cars.

Studies by the Interstate Commerce Commission and a Presidential Emergency Board, which was appointed to settle the labor situation, concluded cabooses could be safely eliminated. The board estimated U.S. railroads would save approximately $400 million if cabooses were eliminated.

Union Pacific purchased its last cabooses in 1979 for $63,500 apiece. UP System has a fleet of about 1,500 cabooses. There are nearly 11,000 cabooses in service on all U.S. railroads. Cabooses today cost approximately $80,000. Other railroads which have begun eliminating cabooses include Conrail, Baltimore & Ohio, Norfolk Southern, Illinois Central Gulf, Seaboard System and Santa Fe.

[:)] keep in mind that this article was written almost 20 years ago! [:)]

Wow ....sure is incredible how many pix the photobucket lost 100 pages ago. It's a real crime that so much material was lost. I now only use the photobucket for any picture I did not take myself, and Rail Images for the rest.

Hope everyone is ready for a big Sunday Pix day. I've put together something special!

[:I] Jerry went to a psychiatrist.
"Doc," he said, "I've got trouble. Every time I get into bed, I think there's somebody under it. I'm going crazy!"
"Just put yourself in my hands for one year," said the shrink. "Come to me three times a week, and I'll cure your fears."
"How much do you charge?"
"A hundred dollars per visit."
"I'll sleep on it," said Jerry.
Six months later the doctor met Jerry on the street. "Why didn't you ever come to see me again?" asked the psychiatrist.
"For a hundred bucks a visit? A bartender cured me for free!"
"Is that so! How?"
"He told me to cut the legs off the bed! And nobody's under there now!" [:I]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, April 8, 2006 11:39 AM
Hiya Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

Just popped in to say that the ENCOREs are looking good from Tom & Rob!!

Just lost a rather long post into cyber space that had my contribution!! Sorry, but I'm off to help #1 son with a leaking roof problem and won't have time to figure out what happened. I saved just the "meat" in the word processor, but the narrative and "banter" is gone, gone, gone.<&^#$>

A round on me - and it appears that Cindy is coming through the door! Awwwright ..... should be a good day in spite of the "Bossman's" absence![swg]


Until the next time![tup]


Lars
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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, April 8, 2006 11:26 AM
Hi Tom and all.

A cup of Our Place's ' famous' coffee this sunny morning please.

We are off in a short while to meet with Tom and Bride.

May I say great posts on the Budd RDC cars and the Jet Powered train LARS AND BK. The photos were brilliant too. [tup][tup][tup].

CM3 Thanks for the list of the anthracite mines. I read recently that for the first time for many years mined steam coal has been available for preserved locos in England although it is produced by a small museum mine and not available any quantity at the present. a sad statement on the once great British coal mining industry [:(].

DOUG Interesting article on The Rebel despite the slow schedule a real effort was made to attract passengers, they certainly looked the part.

ROB I wonder if the original locos on the Lake of Bays railway which were sold to American buyers are in museums now[?].

MIKE Really great links. May I comment on the old English locos Monday they are great old photos.Also I would like to say how good and how much I agree with your comments on TOM and Our Place.[tup].

Good to see you again DAVE.

Many Thanks ROB and TOM for the Encores. I still love the name Hoosier.

Tom Just caught your BR Encore.[tup] Thanks.

PETE.
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 8, 2006 11:14 AM
ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
first Posted on page 184


PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #40

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the BRITISH RAILWAYS in a 1948 advertisement from my private collection:

. . . . . 25% Reduction IN TOUR FARES . . . . .

. . . . . For Americans Visiting The BRITISH ISLES . . . . .

When planning your British Isles holiday, make a list of all the places you want to see in England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Your Travel Agent will be glad to help you prepare your complete individual itinerary. That way you’ll effect substantial savings on planned tour tickets offered by British Railways.

. . . . . . . . . . See More in Britain! . . . . . . . . . .

Naturally, you’ll visit our great cities, our world-famous historic and scenic shrines (all within a day’s train trip from London) . . . but with more time you can enjoy so many equally memorable travel experiences in our less publicized byways. So plan to stay longer – discover for yourself the charm of our villages, countryside and rugged coastline.

. . . . . . . . . . Travel means BRITISH RAILWAYS

TRAINS . . . Swift, comfortable transportation to every corner of the British Isles.

HOTELS . . . 45 hotels associated with British Railways, strategically situated for your tour or business trips.

CROSS-CHANNEL FACILITIES . . . Railway-operated steamer services over a wide variety of routes to Ireland and the Continent. Depend on the all-inclusive travel services of British Railways for every phase of your tour of the British Isles. We suggest you secure your rail transportation, as well as Pullman, cross-channel steamer and hotel reservations before your leave.

British Railways – official agents for air tickets on British European Air Corporation routes in the British Isles.

Write for British Railways – new and amusing booklet, ”WHAT, NO ICE?” – written especially for Americans planning to visit us; as well as the full-color map folder, ”THE BRITISH ISLES” both free upon request to Dept. 25 at any of the offices shown below.

For tickets, reservations and authoritative travel information on the British Isles

CONSULT YOUR LOCAL TRAVEL AGENT or any British Railways office:

. . . . . NEW YORK 20, N. Y., 9 ROCKEFELLER Pl.
. . . . . CHICAGO 3, ILL, 39 So. Lasalle St.
. . . . . LOS ANGELES 14, CAL., 510 W. 6th St.
. . . . . TORONTO, ONT., 69 Yonge Street

. . . . . . . . . . BRITISH RAILWAYS . . . . . . . . . .


That's it for me until tonight . . . Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]


ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday


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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo

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