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[siberianmo]

Mornin’ Gents!

Just a few words this fine day in acknowledgment of the Posts that have come in. And, yes – we areCLOSED on Sundays. However, it IS SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! and we’d like to check out your Classic offerings …… [tup]

trolleyboy Rob Posted: 30 Oct 2002, 00:25:30 and 00:44:21

Another fine Inclusive Post! from Charter Member and Permanent Stool honoree, Rob! [tup]

Nice “wiggle” try in getting off the “hook” regarding the E8s. [tdn] Just watch it, Buster, you’ve stirred the nest and when that happens, one just never knows from which direction “it” will come ……. [swg]

While Saturdays have been relegated to a precious few, it is nice to know that the Encore! pieces are being received so well. We only have a few reading – just check out the SUMMARY for names and times – but they have generated some fantastic input. [tup]

All our talk of Canadian Tire has rekindled the flame for another trip “home” to Nova Scotia. Man oh man are we ever disappointed with that turn of events. The air fares have wiped out our Thanksgiving plans and no tellin’ when we’ll make the journey, at least in the short term. Paying upwards of $1200 for what used to be less than half of that for air travel is simply out of the question ….. Also, VIA Rail and their use of the Renaissance “Euro cars” has stifled any desire on my part to travel from Montreal to Halifax with them. So it appears that an era of about 16 years of ridin’ the “Ocean” has come to an end. [:(]

Appreciate your Pix and descriptions. You like “kickin’ off” these SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! activities, dontcha [?] [swg]

barndad Doug Posted: 30 Oct , 06:56:16

Just when I’m about to “write you off,” you come through! Whazup [?] I made several positive comments about the White Sox and their most impressive post-season showing. Great season – great effort and greater team! [yeah] [tup][tup]

Really am impressed with the effort you’ve put forth. The pictures are “right on,” but the narratives really go a long way to complete the story. [tup][tup]

Thanx for participating in our SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! and I wi***here was a way for us to “spring” you loose in order to have you resume your place as a regular ‘round here ……. Appreciate knowing that you are checkin’ us out and keepin’ up with the Posts. We’ve had quite a run these past several weeks – some very fine submissions for sure.

passengerfan Al Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 08:11:16

Sorry to have to tell ya this – but WE ARE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS! [swg] <grin>

Your efforts of yesterday and today may very well be “lost” for many of the guys who frequent the bar ….. They definitely should be resubmitted during the week. Given your schedule, I will make an attempt to do that for you – no promises, I’ll try.

The information on the MoPac's Texas Eagle is fantastic and very much appreciated! That's quite a rundown on equipment and one that those of us who appreciate the nature of your Posts truly appreciate! Thanx! [tup][tup][tup]

Sundays are difficult for dialogue in that our regulars surely know by now that there’s no one here to pick up on the Posts on a routine basis. Oh well ……..

I do appreciate the input from you, Al and wi***here was a way to “preserve” your works. Just is a time consuming chore to keep up with what I put out, let alone everyone elses. Well, I’m preaching to the choir I suppose. Those who really give a Rat’s Patoot ARE keeping themselves involved! [tup]

Enjoy this fine day, meant for relaxation! [yeah] [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

SUNDAY's are for PIX!

[Anonymous]

Okay, I'll drop this "In the Slot" (Pop tune from the 60's)." Looks like photo posting Sunday is off to a good start. Yesterday, there were also some informative posts which were "on taget" and easy to read.[tup]

It was MoPac in Dodge City, KA that I first saw "polling" used in the yards (1962). They were using "on the fly" (free wheeling) maneuvers as well. I thought this practice was prohibited back in the late 1950'c but apparantly not. As a long time "train watcher" at the Frisco gravity ("hump") yards in West Tulsa, OK, these methods seemed primitive at best and dangerous, to say the least. Often I wondered how gondolas, box, hoppers, et al., with their bulk heads "bowed" in (concave) or out (convex) came to such grief. My question was answered in Dodge City. Early R.R.ing was always a dangerous trade and the industry allowed "bad habits to die hard." Great "Encores" Tom. [tup] [tup] [tup]

Rob, not a problem with my pix. Just grateful that they finally arrived. Hey, you send good mail, much appreciated.[tup] And, in regard to the E-5, E-6 and E-7's, I must agree their lines were more graceful and aestheically pleasing to the eye than their progeny the E-8. But hey, I prefer the asymetrical, awkard appearance of a gas-electric to the Budd RDC, so what do I know. Design and function "rules the roost," not aesthetics, right?[V] As my Pappy would have said: "colors are made for taste!" Love those Witts pix Rob, great entry[^] Earlydiesels, barndad and passengerfan Al, I really took something away from your fine posts, thanks.

Hope everyone has a safe and happy weekend. I'll see you tomorrow at the Halloween/Boris Bash. Happy rails.

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! “These are a few of my favorite things!”

Click to enlarge!

VIA Rail’s “Ocean” and Revelstoke Park Car at Central Station, Montreal, QC, Canada


Eastbound “Ocean” and Chateau Argenson Bedroom Car at Moncton, NB


Eastbound “Ocean” and Revelstoke Park Car at Moncton


Eastbound “Ocean” and Tom & Revelstoke Park Car at Moncton


Eastbound “Ocean” at Moncton


Eastbound “Ocean” and Kent Dining Car w/Eddie the Attendant at Moncton


Eastbound “Ocean” ready for departure at Moncton


Between Moncton and Sackville, NB


(spent the night in Sackville at the Marshlands Inn)


More later today – Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

This turned out to be "Our" Place's 3000th Post!

[Trainnut484]

Hello Tom and rest of the gang. Since we're closed today, I'll just slip this through the slot. Here's my contribution to today's Sunday Photo Day:

ex-BAR GP38 taken on ex Frisco's Wamego to Fredonia, KS lline in Cherryvale, which crossed the Santa Fe line there. The diamond can be seen just ahead of the exNS/NW locomotive, and the Frisco depot was located just to the left of the diamond. I assume these locomotives are SKO.


I'll try to post more later,

Russell

[Anonymous]

Just checking out submissions for photo day. Russell, the HQ for Watco's SK&O is the old ATSF depot out of your picture. This was restored several years ago and in addition to being the ops center for this line, it houses a large model railroad. Occasional excursions are operated out of here.
I am learning that there was a lot more to the Mop than their small operation here in Spfld. One of the recent rail mags carried an article regarding 1 man's attempt to photograph all the Mop power in his town. Love the looks of those Alco PAs with the big eagle across the nose!
Even when an Eunit is at rest, it still looks like it's eating up the rails. This is true even of the later bulldog nose units. The longer snooted Es are more graceful but the later ones look more balanced, at least to me. Try sitting in the engineer's seat---it provides no visibility but an awesome sense of speed and power not found in freight units.
I better stop as this note is getting so long I may not be able to get it thru the mail slot.

[Trainnut484]

Hello again Tom and all. I'm back again with a couple of more photos. Dan, ironically one of these photos is of the Santa Fe depot in Cherryvale. Yes, you're right that it's one of SKO's major facilities. I noticed it wasn't as "clean" as when I visited it back in 1996. I think the layout belongs to the Cherry Valley Model Railroad club. I was able to peek inside then.

Here's the depot. I like the arches especially the ones at the drive through entrance. The other arches cover the outside passenger waiting area. The depot was built during 1909-1910 at the cost of $18,000 dollars, and is the only one of this style left on the old Santa Fe's Southern KS lines. Restored in 1992. Mirrored copy of depot is in Plainview, TX.


Here's the Santa Fe/Frisco diamond in Cherryvale. This is looking North on Santa Fe's line and the Frisco's line is running East and West. The Frisco depot sat to the left on this side of the diamond out of the picture. Santa Fe and Frisco shared a three block long sidewalk for passengers that connected the two depots. Note the old train order pole on the other side of the diamond.


Enjoy [8D]

Russell

[BudKarr]

Good Afternoon Captain Tom,

I believe this attraction to passenger trains is beginning to have a positive impact on me, for I could look at those marvelous pictures of yours for hours. Very well done and how fortunate you are to have been able to make as many trips aboard the "Ocean" has you have. Last week it was the locomotives and now the carriages!

You alluded to perhaps not traveling to Nova Scotia by train, thereby ending your rail experiences in that part of the world. I believe we both understand the phenomenon of change. It is all about, some good, some not, but always inevitable. The end of those Budd cars on the Via Rail route was just a matter of time, just as one day they will no longer grace the route of the "Canadian." You are indeed fortunate to have so many postiive memories, and your photographs, to keep those trips vivid and up front in your mind.

Appears as if fate stepped in on your behalf regading the 3000th posting. Appears to be only proper that it should fall upon you, given the contributions you have made to this venture called "Our" Place. Well done!

Speak with you ujpon my return either the end of the the week or the following.

BK

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! “These are a few <more> of my favorite things!”

Click to enlarge!

(boarded the eastbound “Ocean” at Sackville en route Halifax)

Eastbound “Ocean” and Chateau Varennes bedroom car at Halifax, NS, Canada


Eastbound “Ocean” at Halifax


Eastbound “Ocean” and Banff Park Car at Halifax


Eastbound “Ocean” and Banff Park Car at Halifax


Eastbound “Ocean” at Halifax


Westbound “Ocean” and Kent Dining Car at Halifax


Westbound “Ocean” and Chateau Bienville Bedroom Car at Halifax


Westbound “Ocean” and Revelstoke Park Car at Halifax


VIA Rail Dining Car Acadian at Halifax


Track entrance to VIA Rail Station at Halifax



That’s it – Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

A special thanx to those who took the time to particpate in SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! and all who visited "Our" Place.

[Anonymous]

I don't believe it. My reply was knocked off with a "error occured" message from Kalmbach. Okay, I'll include it in a breakfast message tomorrow. Don't want to chance it again for now.

[pwolfe]

Hi tom and all.

Just a quick note through the slot to say thanks to all for the great photos and posts.

I hope to post of couple of photos on the Essex railway next week if I can work out how to do it[%-)][D)].

Looking forward to the Haloween Party tomorrow PETE.

[passengerfan]

Good Evening everyone Just thought I would post this for the morning crowd.
TEXAS EAGLES 21-22
The second sets of TEXAS EAGLES were actually two trains in one operating between St. Louis and Palestine, Texas. At that point the southbound TEXAS EAGLES split into two trains one destined for Houston and Galveston the other destined for San Antonio. The two northbound trains that originated in those cities became one again each afternoon in Palestine.These TEXAS EAGLES often ran to as many as eighteen cars between St. Louis and Palestine. The train out of St. Louis carried a pair of dining lounge cars for food service one dewstined for San Antonio the other Houston. Again power for the new streamliners was EMD E7A -B units or Alco PA units. The passenger roilling stock for these TEXAS EAGLES came from American Car & Foundry except for the sleeping cars that came from Pullman Standard. All three of the TEXAS EAGLES carried through sleeping cars to and from the east coast. The New York bound sleeping cars traveled east of St. Louis in the PRR PENN TEXAS and the Washington bound cars traveled in the B&O NATIONAL LIMITED. The new TEXAS EAGLES were inaugurated August 15, 1948.
CONSIST ONE

7011EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

7011B EMD 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit

814 Baggage 30' Railway Post Office Car
(St. Louis - Houston)

820 12-Crew Dormitory 52-Revenue Seat Coach
(St. Louis - Houston)

831 60-Revenue Seat Coach
(St. Louis - Houston)

832 60-Revenue Seat Coach
(St. Louis - Galveston)

870 Grill 9-Seat lunch Counter 8-Seat Dinette 36-Revenue Seat Coach
(St. Louis - San Antonio)

894 24-Seat Planetarium Dome 42-Revenue Seat Coach
(St. Louis - San Antonio)

844 32-Seat Dining 19-Seat Lounge Car
(St. Louis - San Antonio)

822 12-Crew Dormitory 52-Revenue Seat Coach
(St. Louis - San Antonio)

841 32-Seat Dining 19-Seat Lounge Car
(St. Louis - San Antonio)

EAGLE CIRCLE 14-Roomette 1-Drawing Room 2-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(St. Louis - Galveston)

EAGLE BUTTE 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Washington - St. Louis - Houston)

8430 EAGLE BEAM PRR 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(New York - St. Louis - Houston)

8432 EAGLE CHARM PRR 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(New York - St. Louis - San Antonio)

EAGLE WOODS 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(St. Louis - San Antonio)

EAGLE TURN 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(St. Louis - San Antonio)

EAGLE STREAM 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Memphis - Little Rock - Houston)

CONSIST TWO

7012 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

7012B EMD E7B 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit

812 Baggage 30'Railway Post Office Car
(Houston - St. Louis)

821 12-Crew Dormitory 52-Revenue Seat Coach
(Houston - St. Louis)

830 60-Revenue Seat Coach
(Houston - St. Louis)

833 60-Revenue Seat Coach
(Galveston - St. Louis)

871 Grill 9-Seat Lunch Counter 8-Seat Dinette 36-Revenue Seat Coach
(San Antonio - St. Louis)

895 24-Seat Planetarium Dome 42-Revenue Seat Coach
(San Antonio - St. Louis)

842 32-Seat Dining 19-Seat Lounge Car
(San Antonio - St. Louis)

823 12-Crew Dormitory 52-Revenue Seat Coach
(San Antonio - St. Louis)

844 32-Seat Dining 19-Seat Lounge Car
(San Antonio - St. Louis)

EAGLE VILLAGE 14-Roomette 1-Drawing Room 2-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Galveston - St. Louis)

EAGLE CHASM 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Houston - St. Louis - Washington)

8431 EAGLE BLUFF PRR 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Houston - St. Louis - New York)

8433 EAGLE CHIEF PRR 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(San Antonio - St. Louis - New York)

EAGLE VALLEY 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(San Antonio - St. Louis)

EAGLE TREE 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(San Antonio - St. Louis)

EAGLE SUMMIT 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(Houston - Little Rock - Memphis)

The 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping cars were not actually delivered to the PRR until August - October 1950 so the PRR substituted prewar CASCADE series 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Cars for this service. I chose to list the consists as they were remembered most with the 10-6 cars in service.

Likewise the Planetarium Coaches shown were were not actually added to the trains until June-July 1952.

The connecting service between Little Rock and M<emphis was discontinued in 1965.

In 1969 the TEXAS EAGLE was discontinued between Palestine and Houston.

One year later the TEXAS EAGLES were discontinued between Texarkana and San Antonio

In 1971 TEXAS EAGLE service ended with the beginning of Amtrak.

Ta Ta for now.

[siberianmo]

Here's a Post from nickinwestwales Nick apparently INADVERTENTLY placed on the WRONG thread! [swg]

QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 19:24:53

Posts: 278
Joined: 16 Apr 2005
Well jeez,-that`s the last time I step into Boris` shed a week before his birthday,by da*n I`ve got aches & pains where I didn`t know I had places---this has been a very rough week,and the worst of it is,the official birthday is tomorrow-We`ve got to do it all again,but next time,could one of the grown-ups please take charge--Our favourite science project will be meeting & greeting guests from 7.30 ( all time zones........) prior to embarcation on the "Our Place" chartered Special-travelling from the back of "Our Place" to the top of the hill,where customers will be presented with a choice of the local home-brews & snacks,prior to experiencing a traditional "Old Country" wedding--those that find that degree of bloodshed upsetting will naturally be excused..............In a desparate attempt to re-introduce the railway theme to the conversation,the news from this side of the water is gloomy-the onset of the rainy season has brought progress on the layout to a halt,the stock has been `boxed up` for the winter-an extensive program of vehicle lettering,weathering and general authenticating ( a made up word ) is called for......stay tuned for pix,scenic development remains a strong possibility-and much needed.
Finally got recording of band into some kind of shape-12 tracks of all your favourites,played in a strange and faintly disturbing way.........................................
[^].......................................................[C=:-)]

My compliments, Sir Nick! <grin>

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening gentlemen. Tom I'm raiding the beer fridge for a nice cold Black label,I'll leave a fiver in the tub for it.[;)] I do like leading off the sunday parade don't I[?] Oh well least i'm consistent[;)][:D]

It was nice to hear from Nick as well[:0][;)] What poor thread did he accidentally confuse with his psot ment for us[?]

Tom , Russel , Doug Nice pictures folks, a nice cross section of the things we love. Beautiful Via shots from the boss, steam and passenger rebuilding projects from Doug ( glad you popped by ) [tup][:)]. Russel loved the station, beautifull old building,oh the GP isn't too bad either. I do like that paint job. Kinda New englandy and shades of the old CPR as well.[^]


Ted thank's for the moral support on the E's. Though that means the angry swarm may be after you as well.[:0][B)][xx(]. I will get your pictures up and running soon,thanks for the time extention[tup] oh Tomorrow i may not be able to make it till after the screaming is done. I'm working all day 8 to 6 my time and I'm a half hour from home at work so. I figure 8pm the earliest I'll make it. That may be hit and miss as well depending on how many young gouls come to our door. ( PC's in the basement )

Al Wonderfull streamliner information, I hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle either. [tup][;)]

A couple more pictures as well I think. Why not.[8)][:p]




A shot of an Ontario Southland ( OSR ) RS 23 diesels. Former CP engines. These are at the Guelph junction yard just accross the tracks from the Go Milton units I shared with you folks last Sunday.




Closer up shot of the RS23's



A before repainting shot of the OSR RS 23. This time it's pictured in front of the old michigab central shops in St Thomas Ontario. Home of the Elgin County railway Museum.



This is a picture of Michigan Centrals St Thomas railway station/ freight shed. This building still stands and is being converted to some loft Condo's. The classic exterior arcetecture is being preserved. Thank goodness. [tup][:)]

Well folks have a good rest of your weekends.

Rob

[siberianmo]

MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day Gents! The last day of the month is the beginning of the work week! All kinds of “things” going on, including Halloween! and Boris’ Birthday Bash [?]!! [swg]


Best take advantage of the fresh pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery, our freshly brewed coffee and the <light> breakfasts. [tup]

Info for the Day:

(1) Today is Boris’ Bash[bday] and Halloween Party! Plan to be here between Noon and 7 PM! Given the vast differences in time zones, let’s just call it “Eastern Time,” since this is Manager Ted’s show. [swg]

(2) The Selection Committee for the Order of the Stools will release the results of their October meeting on Wednesday. Watch for it!

INDEX Monday’s only!

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

Fallen Flags (passenger ops)

106/150 SP……. 106/150 MoPac . 108 WP ………… 109 Frisco
112 CNR ………. 112 Heralds …… 114 ACL ………… 115 SAL
116 D&RGW ….. 118 RI .………… 119 D&H ………… 120/144 PRR
122/144 NYC …. 124 UP.………… 125 AT&SF …….. 127 B&O
128 CM&StP.…. 129 CB&Q .……. 130 Soo Line ....... 133 C&NW
134 SP&S …….. 136 GN ………… 139 B&M ..……… 140 NYNH&H; NH
141 MEC ……… 142 BAR .………. 145 NP …………. 146 L&N
147 Wabash ….. 148 C&O ………. 148 KCS

Passenger Train Nostalgia

110 ……… MKT Combined Fallen Flag and Ads
112 ……… CNR Ad - Super Continental Time Table
113/144 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 ”Start ups” 1800s & early 1900s
117/144 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 Ad - Vista-Dome sleeper obs-lounge
121 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 Ad - CP Hotels & Lodges
124 ………. A tale of Classic Trains BC Rail RDC trip
127 ………. B&O Ad - Strata-Dome
127 ………. B&O Ad – Encor!
129 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #4 Ad - CN Hotels, Ltd.
130 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #1 Poster - East Coast Route
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #5 Poster - CP 1886
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #6 Poster - CP 1950s
134 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #7 Poster - Washington & Old Dominion Railway
134 ………. Personal RR journey CPR’s “The Canadian”
135 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #2 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #3 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #8 Ad – Great Northern
139 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #9 Ads – Great Northern
140 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #10 Ad – Union Pacific
141 ………. Nostalgia 1956 Hotel Ads
142 ………. Nostalgia Fairbanks-Morse motive power Ad
143 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #11 Ad - PRR – The Jeffersonian
145 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #12 Ad – NP
146 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #13 Ad – L&N
146 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #4 Poster - Silver Jubilee
147 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #14 Ad – Budd & Wabash
148 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #15 Ad – C&O
149 ………. HERTZ Ad

Classic Juice by trolleyboy ROB

116 Classic Juice #1 (The London & Port Stanley L&PS)
123 Classic Juice #2 (The Niagara St. Chatharines Toronto Railway NS&T)
131 Classic Juice #3 (The Montreal & Southern Counties Railway –MS&C)
134 Classic Juice #4 (The Brantford and Hamilton B&H)
142 Classic Juice #5 (The Berlin & Water Street Railway - B&WSR)
146 Classic Juice #6 (The Nearside Car)
148 Classic Juice #7 (The Peter Witt Story)

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 00:25:30 (150) Inclusive Post!

(2) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 00:44:21 (150) Pix

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 06:54:12 (150) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(4) barndad Doug Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 06:56:16 (150) Pix

(5) passengerfan Al Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 08:11:16 (150) MoPac – Texas Eagle

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 08:52:45 (150) reply to trolleyboy – barndad – passengerfan

(7) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 09:34:34 (151) Inclusive Post!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 10:12:17 (151) Pix 3000th Post!

(9) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 12:18:30 (151) Pix

(10) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 14:03:57 (151)

(11) Trainnut484 Russell Posted:30 Oct 2005, 15:11:56 (151) Pix

(12) BudKarr BK Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 15:56:09 (151)

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 17:16:04 (151) Pix – part II

(14) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 18:09:12 (151) Grelmins!

(15) pwolfe Pete Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 19:43:45 (151)

(16) passengerfan Al Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 20:25:53 (151) Texas Eagles 21&22

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 20:56:27 (151) Reposting of nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 19:24:53

(18) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 22:02:28 (151) Inclusive Post! and Pix

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Norfolk & Western (N&W) ]

Headquarters: Roanoke, VA

Mileage: 1950: 2,129

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 610

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 75,621
Passenger cars: 251

Principal routes in 1950:

Lambert’s Point (Norfolk), VA-Columbus, OH
Portsmouth-Cincinnati, OH
Lynchburg, VA-Durham, NC
Roanoke-Hagerstown, MD
Roanoke-Winston-Salem, NC
Walton-Bristol, VA
Bluefield, WV-Norton, VA

Passenger trains of note:

Pocahontas (Norfolk-Cincinnati & Columbus)
Birmingham Special (New York-Birmingham, AL; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol)
Cavalier (Norfolk-Cincinnati)
Pelican (New York-New Orleans, LA; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol)
Powhatan Arrow (Norfolk-Cincinnati)
Tennessean (New York-Memphis, TN; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol)
Cannon Ball (Norfolk-New York; joint with ACL; RF&P; and PRR; operated by N&W Norfolk-Petersburg)

Of Note: In 1964, the N&W added the Wabash and Nickel Plate road to its system along with the Columbus-Sandusky line of the PRR, which the PRRR sold to the N&W. In 1981, the N&W added selected lines of the Illinois Terminal RR to its system. This Fallen Flag focuses on the pre-1964 N&W.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Mornin’ Gents!

Just a few words this fine day in acknowledgment of the Posts from yesterday’s SUNDY PHOTO POSTING DAY!

Four of us took the time to participate by posting Pix – thanx to trolleyboy Rob – barndad Doug and Trainnut484 Russell!

passengerfan Al As mentioned, your efforts regarding those elaborations on the MoPAC and Texas Eagles are interesting and thorough efforts. I will be resubmitting them this week if only to ensure that they do not get “lost” in the Ether. Well done, Mate! [tup][tup]

Theordorebear Ted Your Emails and have been received and responded to – thanx! [tup]

Appears as if we’ve got something “brewin’” regarding not only the EMD E8s, but now a not-so-complimentary remarks about MY RDCs!!! Hmmmmmm.

earlydiesels Dan Looks like it's you and me regarding those E8s! [swg] [tup] Glad you stopped by to check out the Pix!

pwolfe Pete Hopefully you’ll be getting’ on board with the Pix submissions. Keep in mind that you can always send ‘em to me as Email attachments …. I’ll Post ‘em for ya!

Your Email was received and responded to – thanx! [tup] See in Hermann on the 19th!

BudKarr BK As is becoming somewhat repetitive – thanx for the continuing support! Means a lot, especially with your submissions over on my new thread. I’ll let that run for a bit, just to test the waters, so to speak. Getting’ just one new customer over here would make it all worth the effort.

See ya soon and have a safe trip …… by the way, Email received and responded to – thanx!

nickinwestwales Nick <huh> [?][?][?] Whazup, Mate! [?] [swg]


Catch ya at the Party commencing at NOON today (Eastern). I see Boris put on his Lederhosen, Alpine Hat and the last of his new steel toed boondockers (both left) for HIS day! [bday] to our cloven footed friend!

So, whatillyahave [?]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Morning All, coffe please, round for the hoisue and $for the jukebox. Since it is Halloween, let's start off with two tunes, "Miner's Silver Ghost ,"followed by "Uncle Billy Richardson's Last Ride."

Lots of fascinating stuff posted over the weekend. I enjoyed reading through all of it and learned a lot. My compliments to the writers/researchers. The Fallen Flags postings are real memory joggers. Also seeing the pictures of the Toronto Witts answered a question I had re their paint schemes. Does the Toronto system have any of them left that they run on special occasions like the Boston folks do with some of their cars?

Since we are looking at classic passenger material. Here's some more information on the Crescent ca. 1930

This was an L&N/A&WP/SOU/PRR operation

Northbound

Lv. New Orleans 9:00 p.m. – L&N
Lv. Mobile 1:15 a.m. – L&N
Arr. Montgomery 6:25 a.m. – L&N
Arr. Atlanta 11:40 a.m. – A&WP
Arr. Spartanburg 5:30 p.m. – SOU
Arr. Charlotte 7:25 p.m. – SOU
Arr. Lynchburg 12:40 a.m. - SOU
Arr. Washington 5:20 a.m. – SOU
Arr. Baltimore 6:35 a.m. – PRR
Arr. W. Phila. 8:43 a.m. – PRR
Arr. No. Phila. 8:55 a.m. – PRR
Arr. New York 10:45 a.m. – PRR

Southbound

Lv. New York 8:40 p.m. – PRR
Lv. No. Phila 10:34 p.m. – PRR
Lv. W. Phila. 10:49 p.m. – PRR
Lv. Baltimore 12:57 a.m. – PRR
Lv. Washington 2:10 a.m. – SOU
Lv. Lynchburg 6:52 a.m. – SOU
Lv. Charlotte 12:01 p.m. – SOU
Lv. Spartanburg 1:50 p.m. – SOU
Lv Atlanta 6:05 p.m. – A&WP
Lv. Montgomery 11:30 p.m. – L&N
Lv. Mobile 4:22 a.m. – L&N
Arr. New Orleans 8:30 a.m. – L&N

Flag stops were at Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, Gulfport, Edgewater Park, Biloxi, Ocean Springs, and Pascagoula “to take on passengers to or from Atlanta and points east.”

“The Crescent Limited will carry northbound from Mobile, and southbound to Mobile, only passengers to and from destinations beyond Alabama; south of Montgomery will carry Montgomery passengers only from or to New Orleans and points west.”

EQUIPMENT

Club Car: New Orleans – New York (Valet service, movable chairs, two sofas, four double seats, buffet, magazines, writing desk and accessories, shower bath.)
Dining Cars – All meals en route
10 sect/2 compt/1 dr. room sleeper: New Orleans – New York
10 sect/2 dr. room sleeper: New Orleans – New York (2 cars)
14 section sleeper: New Orleans – New York (at least one car)
10 sect/2 dr. room sleeper: New Orleans – Washington
2 dr. room/3 compartment/observation car: New Orleans – New York (women’s lounge room, shower bath, maid and manicure service, sofa, movable chairs in the observation end, magazine, writing desk and accessories.)

No coaches.

work safe

P.S. Happy Birthday to Boris

[Anonymous]

Some fine photo posts yesterday. Rob, Russell, Tom and Doug came through like the 7th Cavalry to save the day. Doug are there plans for the restoration of the steam loco pictured? That is a grand "old lady" and surely deserves a "make over." Tom, the N. & W., yet another Flag of which I'm unfamiliar. Except for seeing endless coal hoopers (per the C. & O.), up until now, I thought it was a freight only Road. Al, what a great "breakdown" of the Texas Eagles I and II. The number of cars built by A.C. & F. surprised the heck out of me. Mopac's Eagles had such a great livery and reminded me a little bit of the old N.Y.C. "grays" decor.

Tom, I'll just snag a Bear Claw and a cuppa that fine Master Blend, thanks. Hey, nobody appreciates the later diesel locos and rail cars more than yours truly.[^] Its just that when it comes to the "Golden Years," those late arrivals simply weren't around. I could really get into "deep do do," if I devulged my tastes on the 1960's to present motive power.[:O] I should admit that I prefer the smooth side cars to stainless because the painted livery is distinctive to each Road. Stainless steel is sort of like that old saying: "If you've seen a shopping center, you've seen a mall." Ooooh![V]

Nick [C=:-)] has laid on some diversions for "It's a Boris' Halloween" Ba***hat sound a lot more fun than anything I conjured up. I mean, how much "fun" can pin the tail on the "Bikni Witches" posterior be? "Trick or Meat, Hollow Weenies, Grab Bag and Shag" are all fine for Boris' [bday] but Nick has the right idea for the traditional holiday spirit.[tup] Rob, see what you will be missing from Noon 'til 7 p.m.? Just as well, I understand from Inspector Clueless that vampire bat season started last mid-night.[xx(] Barndad may arrive as the "Headless Horseman," Tom is our resident Awk festooned "Pirate of Pinzanse," Peter is coming with Juneau in tow as the Wolf, Dan might show up as "The Count of Monte Frisco," Russell will probably be wearing a "War Bonnett," CM3 rented a beard and wig, so it must be "Shakespeare," no doubt Al will come as a Pullman Conductor, Dave could appear as "Agent 007," we won't see Chris as the "Invisible Man," I'm guessing that Nick may don a powdered wig and arrive as that "man of a thousand talents," Benjamin Franklin, Gunns, of course, will emulate "The Red Baron." Have I over looked any members? I'll check again before the Bash.[tup]

Okay, Boris, you look ...eh...resplendent in your Alpine Cap.[:-^] Looking forward to seeing more of the whole gang this p.m. Just had the place exorcized by Father Flannigan, so "Our" Place is as clean as "Boy's Town." Happy rails.[:D]

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Gents!

I see we're off to a fine start and thought it best to try and keep up with the acknowledgments:

coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 07:57:33

Nice break down on the Crescent. I've done a bit of research on that train once or twice, in that I think my mother and I traveled that Southern beauty back in 1950 from Mobile to NYC. The times you listed and the ones that I've found in my 1956 Guide to North American Railroads kinda "clicks" in my mind. Seems we did board in the afternoon and I know we arrived at Penn Station in mid to late morning. It was a beautiful train for sure, and we spent the time in the observation car, diner and the bedroom. A great trip home after spending about 2 weeks (I think) in Mobile. My father was a Mate aboard a freighter bound for Korea - we didn't know then, but it turned out it was for the Inchon landing.

Thanx for the round - the quarters and the kind remarks regarding our Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 08:08:37

Nice Inclusive Post to begin the day! [tup] Ah, if only we could see the likes of the boyz you listed - all in one afternoon. No matter, those who do particpate are the ones we'll 'play' to ...... [tup]

That's an interesting thought you brought to mind regarding the smoothsides vs stainless - I like the analogy. My experiences are more with the stainless, however, I too appreciate the look of the smoothsides when all in conformity, lined up with matching motive power and ready to go. I do recall them from the trips to Penn Station and Grand Central as a youngster back in the '40s with my "Gramps." [yeah] lookin' good! [tup]

Okay, here's a little something for the day: (click to enlarge)



Now, let's affix some names to the characters aboard the "train" - names appropriate to the clientele of "Our" Place! Any takers [?][?][?]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #16

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Budd RDC’s from a 1950 advertisement found in my personal collection.

. . . . . . . . . . Single Car “Limited” . . . . . . . . . .

Here is the new railroad car which is a train in itself – the self-propelled, diesel-powered, all-stainless steel RDC-1. The Budd Company created it to perform a service both to railroads and their patrons, by carrying more passengers on short or long hauls at lower operating cost.

The RDC-1 seats ninety in air-conditioned comfort. With power transmitted hydraulically, from an effortless start it picks up speed like a whippet and stops in a fantastically short space . . . with the easy softness of pushing your hand against a pillow.

Railroad men foresee a wide usefulness for this car. It may be operated as a single unit, or a number of cars can be coupled into a train, operated by one engineman.

Improvement in any field of endeavor begins with imagination. The RDC-1 is another example of Budd practice which is first to envision clearly the need and then bring to bear all the resources of inventive engineering. It follows the modern stainless steel streamliner, the all-steel automobile body, the tapered steel disc wheel and so many other products in which Budd has translated imagination into practical accomplishment. The Budd Company, Philadelphia, Detroit.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Budd . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

CHECK THE MONDAY SUMMARY and INDEX PAGES FOR MORE GREAT NOSTALGIA POSTS!

[Trainnut484]

Hello Tom and all. It's too early for ML so I'll have a hot cup of Folgers and a cold cut sandwich. Definately feels like fall today with the cool weather, rain, and the colorful leaves both in the trees and on the ground.

Thanks for all the compliments who enjoyed my pics for yesterday's Sunday Photo Posting Day. Rob, nice pics of the CP power and the Michigan Centrals St Thomas railway station/ freight shed. That is HUGE [:0]. I wouldn't even try to model that in HO or any scale for that matter.

[bday][bday] to Boris [alien]. Enjoy your cake and watch out for the fireworks candles. Make a wish.

Now, something for HALLOWEEN

DON'T FEAR THE REAPER MUHA-A-A-A-A-A (or insert Vincent Price's evil laugh here)

Yep, that's me

I know pics are for Sundays, but it being Halloween I couldn't resist.

Happy Halloween all,

Russell

[Anonymous]

OOOOPS! Looks like I dropped in on the wrong party. This surely is some strangers Wake. I know things are getting a little slow hereabouts but I didn't think we were leasing the pool room for funeral services.[:)] Hey Tom, make it a Crown and soda, if you please.[^] Good promotional stuff from the Budd folks on the R.D.C.s Sure miss 'em from the days in the Boston area.[tup] YIKES Russell, I hope you don't get buck shot for a treat somewhere. CM3, thanks for the "skinny" on the Crescent. As you know, I'm modeling the Southern R.R. "leg" of that fine train. Your input is really helpful. Tom, I'm pretty sure the three witches are Ruthy, Lucy and Jemima and the cauldron is the guest's cuspidor from the Patoot room. Noooo doubt the enginman is our esteemed and worthy propritor himself, right? Okay, I'll check back when the Bash is in full swing. Help yourself to the punch bowl and dixie cups gents. Just don't ask for the recipe. Its a "top secret" concoction that only [b]Nick{/b] knows. See Y'all a little later.

[siberianmo]

Hello Mr. Manager!

Just waitin' for YOU to arrive - after all, it's YOUR showcase today! [swg]

Okay - let's see, our guest of honor, Boris has already torn into the pile of gifts left under the "tree," which is actually his favorite "stump" from out back - he just had to drag it into the pool room - kinda like a security blanket, donchaknow [?] <huh>

Anyway, he has three new pair (all LEFT) of steel-toed Boondockers for his 17 1/2 size cloven feet; the "indestructible" flashlight he wanted with one of those energy cells that supposedly will outlive the sun; another Dolly; and his favorite of all - a pet Armadillo named Tex. There appears to be remnants of food stuff and drink smattered throughout the remains of what was gift wrap and ribbons, but kinda hard to tell. The gals were in earlier but had to scram when he started "that thing" with "Dolly" ...... not good! Right now he's trying to figure out whether to eat Tex or stomp him. They're havin' a great time ....... [wow]

Those 4x4's across the entrance to the pool room have to stay put, at least until Leon the Night Man arrives, for he's the only one, aside from Nick who seems to be able to calm this "thing" down! <good grief>

Appreciate your "participation" in the Name the Characters of "Our" Place contest ... here it is again:



Hmmmm, we have four original gals - where does Ann fit in [?] Recall that we have Ruth the redhead – Ann the blonde – Lucy the brunette and Jemima the raven haired beauty. Then of course there's Cindy our other lovely who is in a word, stunning. Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble ........

I'm stayin' behind the bar. Remember, this is YOUR showcase, Mate!

Back, baaaaaaaack, baaaaaaaaaaaack, I tell ya ......

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

P.S. I KNEW that was you, Russell! You dress up quite well ... [swg]

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon All: Coffee, please, round for the house and money to keep the tunes going.

Was looking through "many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore" yesterday (knew I could find a tie-in to Halloween somewhere) and found the following piece for the Erie Limited. The choice of language gave me pause, but here 'tis.

The Erie Limited

Fast
Modern Luxurious
Human

Individual Seat Coaches, Coach Club car. Superb Dining Car Service, Ultra Modern Sleeping and Parlor Cars. Sun Room Observation Lounge, Radio Equipped

New York – Buffalo- Chicago

Erie Railroad System – The Heavy Duty Railroad

Again this is from the early 30's. Maybe they were trying to set their personnel up against the competition.

Have a good night and see you tomorrow. I promise I'll open the door quietly and try not to shine my caplight directly on anybody.

work safe

P.S. to our "steamed manager (he got to close to the cooker?) IIRC< we do stuff related to model rrs on Wednesday. Can we do nostalgic model stuff for that section?

[siberianmo]

Thanx to coalminer3 CM3 a great idea for another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Erie Railroad

Headquarters: Cleveland, OH

Mileage in 1950: 2,341

Locomotives in 1960:

Diesel: 695

Rolling stock in 1960:

Freight cars: 20,372
Passenger cars: 519

Principal routes in 1950:

Jersey City-Paterson, NJ-Middletown-Hornell, NY-Youngstown, OH-Chicago (Hammond-Chicago via rights on the Chicago & Western Indiana)
Marion-Dayton-Cincinnati, OH (Dayton-Cincinnati via rights on the B&0)
Hamilton, OH-Indianapolis, IN (rights on the B&O)
Leavittsburg-Cleveland, OH
Pymatuning, PA-Leavittsburg, OH
Hornell-Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY
Salamanca-Dunkirk, NY
Corning (Painted Post)-Attica, NY
Avon-Rochester, NY
River Junction-Cuba Junction, NY
Carrolton, NY-Eleanora Jct., NY (Brockway-Eleanora Jct. via B&O rights)
Corning, NY-Newberry, Jct., PA
Lanesboro-Wilkes Barre & Scranton, PA
Lackawaxen-Avoca, PA
Newburgh Jct.-Campbell Hall-Graham, NY
Maybrook-Pine Island, NY
Croxton (Jersey City)-Nyack, NY
Piermont-Suffern, NY
NY&NJ Jct.,-Ridgewood Jct.
Paterson (Newark Jct.)-Newark, NJ
Croxton-Midvale, NJ

Passenger trains of note:

Erie Limited (Jersey City-Chicago & Buffalo)
Lake Cities (Jersey City-Cleveland & Buffalo; later extended to Chicago)
Pacific Express (Jersey City-Chicago)
Atlantic Express (Chicago-Jersey City)
Midlander (Jersey City-Chicago)
Southern Tier Express (Buffalo-Hornell-Jersey City)
Mountain Express (Jersey City-Hornell)
Tuxedo (Jersey City-Port Jervis)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom and the gang, betcha thought I fell off the edge of the planet these past few weeks, anyhow I feel like i've fallen off the edge of the planet...Round for the house, your call...

Afternoon all, as you might surmise I have quite a bit of catching up to do. Tom, i'm out of the Federal Protection business after a heated exchange with my superiors, i'll be returning to duty in a new capacity hopefully, decision awaits. I'll have my new puter together soon, so will be able to return to fold on a regular basis..Technology is a wonderfull thing...

Quite a bit has occured during my extended absence, i'll do my best to get up speed and provide some updated postings.

Until later, Boris, lead those size 17 1/2 boondockers over to the bell and do your thing.

Dave

[siberianmo]

G'day (evenin') Gents!

Well, this is a revoltin' development! A [bday] party for Boris and hardly a stir was felt in the house ...... And where's Nick, not to mention our Host [?] Strange things are happen' ......... woooooooooooooo -<bump> in the night! [swg]

coalminer3 CM3 appreciate the info and "inspiration" regarding the Erie - great name for the day and good idea too!

Thanx for the round AND the quarters! [tup]

West Coast S Dave Send me an Email when you come up for air. Certainly glad you're still "one of us," was surely wonderin' .......

Thanx for the round! [tup]

Well, let's see - I've Posted TWO Fallen Flags and one NOSTALGIA piece along with a "contest," of sorts. Hardly any takers. Okay - so I'll get back to what I was doin' and check y'all later ........


Who ARE these Characters [?]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Trainnut484]

BOO!!

Hello Tom and everyone. I thought I would come in and haunt sit a spell or so. A Miller Lite for me Tom.


Just waiting for trick-or-treators.

I'm [#offtopic] with this post so Boris ring the thing. The next round is on me. Oh and [bday] to you.

Happy Halloween

Russell

[pwolfe]

Hi TOM and all.

[bday][bday]BORIS my present is in the package by the door.

For the party perhaps NICK can ship over some Moorhouse's Pendle Witches Brew after a few of those you dont need a broomstick to fly[swg][yeah].

Thanks for the Flags and Nostalgia. There is a great photo of a Budd RD1 on page 8 of the new Winter 2005 issue of Classic Trains.May I echo MANAGER TED's thanks for the great posts lately. [tup][tup].

TOM Is the person[?] in the 3rd truck BORIS[?].
A tale for Halloween.

It was a very foggy October 31st 1944 somewhere in England as they used to say. Actually it is the exchange sidings connecting the L.N.E.R line to the U.S.A.F. airbase in East Anglia.

Amos Smith a native of Iowa is in the enginemans shanty with his young stoker and the crew of the freight train that has brought the trucks he is to take to the airfield. They are holed up in the hut as there has been a air-raid warning. They had heard the sound of aircraft including one that was very low but the planes were heading further inland.

After a while Jed the singleman poked is head in the door of the hut to let them know that the all-clear had been given and they could move off.

The loco's used on the line to the base were 0-6-0 switcher tank locos built by Baldwin for the U.S. Transportion Corps. The line followed an original branch line for most of the way until swinging off on a new piece of ROW after crossing over the Big Cut River on an old swing-bridge which had luckily survived the branches closure.

After the young Stoker had brought the steam pressure up, they set off down the branch. the fog had gotten thicker but the Corps of Transport track crew had done a really good job of re-laying the track. Still the short wheel-based 0-6-0 was doing its usual waggle like dance. I'm getting too old for this thought Amos as he peered out into the wet fog .

As they approached the curve to the bridge the fog thickened,suddenly Amos thought he could see a light in the 4 foot ahead, with years of experience he closed the regulator and gently applied the brake well aware of the cargo of bombs and other ammuntion a few vans behind the loco. As the train stopped the light was still there
Amos climbed down off the loco as the young stoker could not understand the locals at all.

The source of the light was a lantern in the hand of a old guy in a long overcoat wearing an old railway hat with a badge Amos didnt reconise. As Amos drew level with him the old guy turned on his heel and headed towards the bridge. They had not gone far when the lantern picked out a sight that took Amos back 40 years, back to the family farm in Iowa when he had gone to the barn and came face to face with a Copperhead. Lying between the rails was a landmine dug into the ballast. Feeling someone next to him Amos looked around to see his stoker who said "If we had hit that they would have heard the bang back in the States."

Amos was about to thank the old railwayman who had warned him but he had disappeared. Very gingerly they reversed the train back to the junction where Amos informed Jed the signalman who had a direct phone-line to the air -base who called in the Bomb disposal squad.

Amos told Jed about the old railwayman, as the story went on Jed face turned white.
"That sounds like old Seth. He fell off the Swing Bridge into the Big Cut and drowned 60 years ago."

Great Party PETE

[Anonymous]

Happy[bday] Boris, and a spooktacular Halloween to all Our Place Members. I guess I can handle a Zombie in honor of tonights celebration, thanks Tom Love the "double take" CM3, "Erie" with eerie.[^] That Road had some peculiar looking passenger rolling stock. The vestibule ends took on an almost European appearance with narrow arched window frames as well. Even the monitor roof line on some older cars had an odd geometry that suggested a Asian influence. Thanks to you and Tom, perhaps other Members will "pile on" this Road at later posts.[tup]

Boris is entirely thrilled with his presents.[alien] Especially that new brick bat he delights in smashing up the decorations with.[:O] Welcome back Dave, I threw out some bait for you re: Pacific Electric which I hope you might bring into sharper focus.[tup] Tom, that's Annie seated in the "boat tail" observation car. Cindy works weekends only, right? As to the other four or five "Simpsons," I'll leave that for our later guests, if there are any.[:(]

Great costume Russell, and the "Grim Reaper" is certainly appropriate for this evening's activity.[v] Well that's okay, Halloween is really more for the younger set that still have a spark of imagination. [#oops]I just sampled the punch bowl![xx(] Gadfrey Daniel, no wonder there are so many "no shows." The "word" must have gone out to everyone that the "punch is spiked."[:O] Okay, Boris, its been grand and please remind me next year to "keep my big mouth shut."[8] Good night all and happy entrails.