"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

Great photos of the X2000 TOM.

Here are 3 pics at the Essex Steam Railroad in CONN taken last fall.
If anyone can add some details especially of the diesel I would be grateful






Click to enlarge.
PETE.

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Continuing with the final installment of 6 photos of 24 commemorating the April 24th 51st Anniversary of – “The Canadian” of the Canadian Pacific Railway. [tup]



(19) VIA Rail’s Waterton Park car




(20) VIA Rails’ Revelstoke Park car




(21) CP’s Kokanee Park car




(22) CP’s Kokanee Park car one more time!




(23) Passing Park cars




(24) Dominion Atlantic RDC-1s on the Can-Am mountain run
(CP owned & operated this line in Nova Scotia – along the route of “Land of the Evangeline”)



Missed last Sunday’s Pix[?] – check out:
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=318&TOPIC_ID=35270



If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Good evening gents,regular weekly visit from the ghost in the machine-[4:-)][oX)]TOM-there`s money next to `tilla to cover a double round for the house in a grovelling attempt to catch up,enjoy as and when gents [^].
Well,TOM-once again thanks for doing the honours [tup]-also for that fine spread from ERIC-[tup][tup]--But mostly for that wonderful selection from the Can-Am,both the `country` shots and the `car yd` close-ups.
I wonder if the designers of those cars had previous experience building aeroplanes-they convey the same sense of imminent smooth & rapid motion even whilst at rest-also the dome car cupola (is that the right word?) has rather more Boeing B-17 cockpit than Pullman standard about it....
Anyway-nice selection-ta.!-just the kick up the garden I needed to continue preparing the model for a summer of use-explorative visits this week have revealed that this years crop of spiders are of Tolkeinian proportions-parts of the layout resemble Miss Havisham`s wedding cake,rodent activity seems confined to de-foliation of a few conifers on the upper section and neither of the entrances to the badger sett underneath the Train shed appear to have been opened,so,on balance-ahead of the game.
Nice stuff from ERIC-that first pic,with the sky-scraper background is pure Dan Dare( I could go way off topic here on a thing about sci-fi writers shaping the way the world is by planting ideas in the minds of the kids most likely to become the scientists and engineers that make it happen..........but I wont[^]
The contrast with the G.G.1 really works as well---nice spread[tup]

LARS-Glad you enjoyed the pix,explanations will be forthcoming[swg]-Enjoyed the S.P shots-whole quality of the light is different that far west-[tup]

PETE-Fine contrast there mate-can add nothing to U.S pix other than that they are a treat to look at-that road-roller has a strange and surreal beauty all it`s own[^]..........
As to the Brit pix,here`s my first trawl:-pix 1&2 -although looking rather like `Percy the small Engine` what we have here is a `Swansea Jack`-or a keen replica-the numberplate looks like a Swindon casting in the `Misc.` sequence and she`s in Brunswick green and she`s fairly obviously a Peckett,so,first thought-Powlesland & Mason,the contractors who provided the shunting engines to Swansea docks,the nearest `hit` I could get was from the trusty Ian Allen `62-63 combined volume which gives #1151 as still in service-they had a large fleet so the disparity in numbering is explainable--My guess is ( and I could be horribly wrong here ) that she spent the bulk of her working life within whistle-sound of Dan-Y-Graig shed................
As to location,I would guess the departure platform at Minehead-re the D.M.U-I can`t get high enough res. to read the car no`s-if you can pick them off I should be able to tie them down (assuming it`s a pre `63 unit of course)

Right,pix captions-apologies in advance,the subject matter becomes increasingly whimsical-
1-Devil`s Bridge-This continues directly on from last week-the engine is just out of shot to the right---the first two coaches are `tourist` cars-the ends are glazed but the sides are open,the three behind are open saloon 3rd`s and the tail car is a brake composite.
2-This is the view down from the road bridge,the highest of the three spanning the valley at this point,of the gorge at Devil`s Bridge-you can only guess at how long it`s taken for that river to make that channel....
3-Here we have pretty much the opposite view-back down the Rheidol valley-if you expand the pic,the route of the railway is just visible-on the left side of the valley,just below the top of the treeline.
4-This particular shot frames a memory for me-My Father-in-law looking extremely reluctant to pose next to the engine and the crew in the background looking even more depressed after we had had a chat and it had emerged that `Prince` is the only engine in service-I guess they could repeat history and hire `Palmerston` from the Festiniog..........
5 & 6--Here we have a pair of pix from the journey home----We made a supper stop in the Edwardian resort of Aberaeron-now much enlivened by the provision of a large caravan park on the north end of the beach.
The first view is the one the Wales Tourist Board would like you to see-picture postcard perfect ,the second ( and you need to enlarge this one) is what happens when you get a spring tide one year short of an eighteen year high meeting an all-time-since -before-records-were-kept-back in the 4th century field run off being chanelled into the same narrow space at the same time-had seen this building featured on local T.V but not taken any notice until Missisnick pointed out the obvious.
Right,be good,have fun,speak soon,nick [C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

TOM-just caught most recent batch-Revelstoke & Waterton both look rather well in that`low key` VIA livery-but then again so do both the C.P.R liveries............Nice one mate,a treat for us [tup][^][tup]....T.T.F.N................

[siberianmo]

”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s – and
Sunday Photo Posting Day! ended at "sundown"!

Evenin' Gents!

Just a quick THANX to Doug - Lars 'n Pete for your active participation in our Pix day! [tup][tup][tup] You three have become the mainstays of this Sunday effort . . . [yeah]

Appreciate hearing from Nick with the descriptions of your Pix spread, and of course comments! [tup][tup]

Glad you guys enjoyed the Can-Am series of Pix and also those from Eric!

If anyone directed specific comments my way - I'll address them in the AM . . . [zzz]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening gents figured that i would pop in and do an inventory and some ordering for next week.Unfortunatly ihad a bit of a computer glitch fixed it up and alls well with the world again. Unfortunatly I cannot access page 324 without crashing my machine. Picture files are too big, it's a pitty too because from the few snippets of them I did see and from the comments I was able to read they seem to have been a fine set,most definatly worthy of this fair site !

Tom Your pictures on this page are supurb [tup]Truly good looking stuff,nice looking domes and RDC's I wonder what your fav passenger equipmnet is [;)]

Lars I got your emails no fears I'm still amongst the living, I'm gald that you and dave were able to provide Tom a bit of help yesterday as I was unable to jump into the fray. Some good ebcores from yesterday. Here's hoping that we can all rebound for next weekend.

Doug The final installment of the living with steam was the perfect capper, thanks for sharing it with us. [tup]

Ted I'm gald to know that my post from the other day allowed you to get some of your bearings back. I'm always glad to help out. As for the Ice hotel well there's always next year, we'll save a piece for your first drink thursday night LOL. For the rendezviousers yeah you know who you are. The seven day forecast is in for next week ( this week ) Thursday is to be 19 degrees with a touch of rain for your arrival. Friday and Saturday are to be 16 to 17 degrees ( Celsious people ) So nice mid to high 60's with sun. low 50's at night though so a lite jacket i think ( parka for Ted as we know how much warmer Fla is LOL [swg] )also Ted it's nice to hear that you may have another convert for us [tup]

Good to see Fergie pop by, his ships getting a bit o work done to it right now so hopefully he may be a little less a stranger. I'm not supprised if that was some old streetcar rail he saw poking through the potholes of water street. Allot of cities simply did that ( paved over the streetrailway tracks once abandoned )I remember not motre that ten years ago St Catharines finally removed the long burried NS&T tracks from Queenston Street and St Paul Street during some road renos.The girder rail on St paul looked like it still could have been used even after 50 years of being burried !Nice to hear that Eric made another pop by good news for sure [tup]

Rob

[trolleyboy]

I'll throw my late hat into the picture ring, late additions I know but the honeydo list knows no bounds [sigh]. A couple shots for steam buffs, something that may be right up the Captains alley !



Muskoka Fleet Steam Yaht Wanda 3 built in 1915 was the Eaton family yaht.now preserved by the Muskoka fleet heritage museum in Gravenhurst Ontario.



The "fleet" at anchor at gravenhurst town Dock on Lake Muskoka.



Pride of the fleet RMS SEGWUN the only functional and oldest habd fired coal burner in North America. Segwun was built for the Muskoka Steamship Co in 1886. restored to operations in 1974 and sailed ever since a must see to wine and dine and cruise on if you are ever in Gravenhurst.



RMS WENONAH 2 built in 2002 by the steanship society to help take on the increasing passenger flow on the Muskoka lakes cruise season. Built to look like a turn of the centruy steamer from the period she's deisel powered but still a fan fav on the Muskoka Lakes

enjoy Rob

[EricX2000]

Hello Tom and the rest of you!
I have not learned all the names yet, but I'll do my best. I am glad I found this bar so I know a place to go for some delightful refreshments. I am looking forward to spend time here and hopefully I can show some pictures of other trains than X2000 and maybe even tell some stories. I have started translating the X2000-site to English. I will also add some more pictures. Hopefully I will be able to publish it in less than two weeks.

It's getting late so I stop for this time. I'll be back i a few days.

Eric

[siberianmo]

Toronto: courtesy: www.viarail.ca


We open at 6 AM. (All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


It’s Monday once again! Join us for some fine pastries from The Mentor Village Baker – a selection from our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast – and a cuppa Joe![tup]



Daily Wisdom


Some folks follow old wagon track. Others break new trails.



Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear –
The Burlington Zephyrs arrives Tuesday!


* Weekly Calendar:


Wednesday: Toy & Model Trains Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
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April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars



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The following 15 Police Comments were taken off actual police car videos around the United States:

#15 "Relax, the handcuffs are tight because they're new. They'll stretch out after you wear them awhile."

#14 "Take your hands off the car, and I'll make your birth certificate a worthless document."

#13 "If you run, you'll only go to jail tired."

#12 "Can you run faster than 1200 feet per second? In case you didn't know, that is the average speed of a 9mm bullet fired from my gun."

#11 "So you don't know how fast you were going. I guess that means I can write anything I want on the ticket, huh?"

#10 "Yes, Sir, you can talk to the shift supervisor, but I don't think it will help. Oh, did I mention that I am the shift supervisor?"

#9 "Warning! You want a warning? O. K., I'm warning you not to do that again or I'll give you another ticket."

#8 "The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?"

#7 "Fair? You want me to be fair? Listen, fair is a place where you go to ride on rides, eat cotton candy, and step in monkey DOO."

#6 "Yeah, we have a quota. Two more tickets and my wife gets a toaster oven."

#5 "In God we trust, all others we run through NCIC."

#4 "Just how big were those two beers?"

#3 "No sir we don't have quotas anymore. We used to have quotas but now we're allowed to write as many tickets as we want."

#2 "I'm glad to hear the Chief of Police is a good personal friend of yours. At least you know someone who can post your bail."

#1 "You didn't think we give pretty women tickets? You're right 'mam, we don't. Sign here."


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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) barndad Doug Posted: 07 May 2006, 06:34:07 (324) 7 Pix w/descriptions & cartoon!

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 May2006, 07:05:16 (324) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 May 2006, 07:41:49 (324) Now Playing at the Emporium!

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 May 2006, 09:13:12 (324) 6 Nick’s Pix!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 May 2006, 11:09:23 (324) 6 Can-Am Pix!

(6) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 07 May 2006, 12:55:04 (324) 4 SP Pix & Comments!

(7) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 07 May 2006, 13:40:46 (324) more comments!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 May 2006, 15:26:55 (324) 7 X2000 Pix!

(9) pwolfe Pete Posted: 07 May 2006, 15:44:08 (324) Wolfman Report & 4 Pix from GB!

(10) pwolfe Pete Posted: 07 May 2006, 16:11:47 (324) 3 Pix!

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 May 2006, 18:10:05 (325) 6 Can-Am Pix!

(12) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 07 May 2006, 20:41:45 (325) Nick Pix report & comments

(13) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 07 May 2006, 20:53:53 (325) etc.

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 May 2006, 21:43:41 (325) Nite cap!

(15) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 May 2006, 00:01:32 (325) Late nite/early morning Inclusive Post!

(16) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 May 2006, 00:01:32 (325) 4 Pix & descriptions




That’s it! [tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

A pleasant good Monday morn' to you all. Tom, its really too early for aything more than a "eye opener" of that curious looking viscous liquid in the decanter. I judge it to be appx. 10 W 30 weight and should serve to lubricate a sudden involuntary response anon.[:O] I'm in early to help "pick up the slack" if needed this beginning of the week.

Doug, the pix of the D.M. & I.R. steam is impressive. Somewhere, in my M.R. archives, there is an issue of that Road's entire roster of articulated steam. These shots reminded me of what a variety of monsters they owned. Looks like "the first step of a journey..." on your new home. With that large lot, the sheep make good economic sense over a gas mower.[(-D] Hey, the Blimp and Zephyrs go together better than the Hindenburg in 1936.[swg] Thanks for the Traction shots.[^]

Lars, the smooth side S.P. (silver) cars, at first glance, fooled me into thinking of some distended N. Y. subway M.U. rolling stock, phew! "Good show." BTW, the "personal touch" paid off. Another visit from Eric was a treat.

Pete, you surely did "ring my bell" with the Essex Steam R.R. Ten Wheeler and the standard heavyweight in the back ground. Of course, the saddle tanks of the U.K. looked their "Sunday best," also. A real steam roller! Must admit that I saw them in "real time."[tup] Kids used to put pennys on the dry asphalt in the 'roller's ' path.

Nick old chap, don't know how you do "it." So many "irons in the fire" and still manage the sub titles for the fine pix. BTW, any farther data on the Hubshe, blondes Madel in the lower right foreground of the river scene? Any rate, glad to see you again, trust the Pike will return from hibernation unscathed.

"Shiver me timbers," it's Commodore Rob (alter ego) with a cold water counter part to the "African Queen." R.M.S. Segwun, circa 1886? Why she doesn't look a day older than 1974![(-D] She's "classic" and she's steam; that's close enough for this Land Lubber. Seriously, thanks for a "heads up" on the Toronto forecast. Yes, I have retrieved my "great coat" from mothballs and packed my Mink lined athletic supporter for just such contingencies. Won't be long now.[^]

Well Tom, the Can-Am never looked better along with the VIA and C.P. domes, accented with those sexy R.D.C. Dominions. Looking forward to all posibilities for rail ventures in "big T" and some great repartee over a cordial "or three" very, very soon. I "don't have to go but I can't stay here," as the old Salts used to say around the Eastern Shore of MD. Happy rails until next time.

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and gents! I'll have the usual two light breakfasts, and thanks for the encouragement and advise from Tom, Lars and Peter concerning my idiot neighbors. In less than a month, we will be rid of their obnoxious carcasses.

Anywho, I only have time to pop in with those thoughts, quick congradulations for all those who made their outstanding contributions to the Sunday pix, and wish you all a great day ... and to start you're day off with a few groaners!

[:I] A man is driving with his wife, when he is pulled over by a policeman.
"Sir," says the cop. "You were going 60 in a 50."
"No, I wasn't."
"Yes, you were," says the wife.
"Keep quiet!" says the man, angrily.
"And you weren't wearing a seatbelt," says the cop.
"Yes I was."
"No, you weren't," says the wife.
"SHUT UP!" says the man, really angry.
"Ma'am," asks the cop, "is he always the rude and violent?"
"Only when he's DRUNK." [:I]

[:I] A nun, a priest, an Irishman, a Scotsman, a rabbi and a blonde walk into a bar.
The bartender looks at them and asks, ''Is this some kind of joke?'' [:I]

[:I] A guy goes into a bar, orders twelve shots and starts drinking them as fast as he can. The bartender says, "Dang, why are you drinking so fast?" The guy says, "You would be drinking fast too, if you had what I had." The bartender says, "What do you have?"
The guy says, "75 cents." [:I]

[LoveDomes]

G'mornin' Capt. Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

Yes, a rather early visit - but a few things have popped up in my spiraling life.

First to the important "stuff" - I see that our Proprietor spent a considerable amount of his Sunday providing excellent pix for us. I counted SEVEN posts from him yesterday - that's SEVEN out of a total of FOURTEEN (on the 7th). So, HALF of the posts for the Sunday Pix Day are a result of his efforts.

Another 5-[tup] Salute to you, Sir! [tup][tup][tup][tup][tup]

For anyone "out there" who may not understand the process - posting pix isn't quite as "routine" as it may appear. It takes time - lots of it. I know that Tom has gone through the "steps" with us B4 - but I just want to stress that without his efforts, this thread would be history - simply history. Posting for Eric, Nick & himself surely put a crimp in whatever free time "the man" had for himself.

[yeah] I'm a "cheerleader" for the guy who deserves it most!

Received your email response, Rob - figured it must've been something to do with that computer of yours. All I can say is - BUY A NEW ONE! and get yourself "up" with high speed, etc. Seriously, the technology of today far surpasses that of just a couple of years ago. Saw an "instant" change for the better when we switched over.

Doug Here's hoping your "wish" comes true and you are indeed free from the inflluence of the JO living down below. Back to those SA jokes, eh[?] (SA, as in "sorry A--" [swg]

Nice of you to stop in a 2nd time, Eric so let me be the first to convey an "official" welcome: [#welcome] aboard! [tup] Those pix that Tom put up for us yesterday are fantastic! Love that X2000 and I visited it when it was in NYC. (Same for ICE . . ) [tup]

Ted - another early riser, huh[?] You must be getting a head start on your packing! [swg] You appear to be in great anticipation of your visit to Toronto! [yeah]

Nick Always enjoy your musings and information. A way with words - and pix - put them together and it's a great mix for the best cyber bar & grill in the Ether! (Just like mixing cement!) [swg]

Pete Was wondering where you were, then it occurred to me that your wife "told you" that a visit to the M-in-law was to take place! [swg] Well, I guess that's better than living next door, huh[?] Only kidding - just some "American" humor. You see, Mother-in-law jokes are rather commonplace with many of us. Anyway., enjoyed the pix from your mate and the ones you snapped up in Connecticut. [tup][tup]

Finally, back to Doug - your pix and descriptions from yesterday really should provide a template for the way this idea of Tom's should work for Photo Sunday! Another fine effort! [tup][tup]

Now to the secondary reason for my early arrival . . . . I may be gone for the rest of the day and perhaps into mid-week. Will know more as the day progresses. Have some property in "up state" and the people paid to keep it in good repair, apparently haven't. So, I'm communicating with a friend and neighbor to determine whether this can be all worked out by phone. Otherwise, I'm heading north. <uggggggggggh>

We also have "commitments" for this weekend - big family "do" beginning Friday - then of course, we leave for our left coast trip on the 19th. So, I just may be 'scarce' . . . .

A round on me, barkeep - and I'll take a #3 from the menu board! [swg]

Lars

[LoveDomes]

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Birthday Bash Announcement!


Our leader and “steamed” Proprietor of “Our” Place will be celebrating his Birthday here at the bar - 7 PM – central time – on May 18th (Thursday)


Let’s have a great turn out for the guy who NEVER forgets any of us on our special days!


Lars



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[BudKarr]

Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!


Yes, 'tis I - the mountain man - returning for a brief visit while I have the time! Been rather busy with our guests, but have sequestered myself in Lydia's study and have the room and computer to myself! [tup]

Thank you to all who have expressed their "best wishes" in our direction both at the bar and by e-mail. Very nice of you! [tup]

Barkeep - a round on me this morning and a number three for me if you please! [swg]

I have been able to peruse the Saturday and Sunday activities rather closely, and have reviewed the pages prior - but perhaps not as closely as I should have. Anything I get "done" today, makes it less to do upon our return! <grin>

Where to begin[?] The Saturday "Encores" were interesting - but rather separated when one takes a look at just WHO participated. Seems like Captain Tom has found himself back in that rowboat full of people, but with only one set of oars! Well, maybe two - Lars my "bookend" made his contributions! [tup][tup] Noted a visit from Sir Dave but his was devoid of any "Encore" material, as were a couple of others. Quite a difference from the prior weekend. This is not intended as a "knock," but in reviewing some of the postings, if I did not know better, I would be thinking that some fellows made far more impact than they really did.

Sunday[?] I concur wholeheartedly with my "bookend" in that the "Lion's share" of photos and overall effort belong to Captain Tom - he saved the day! [swg] Good material from Sirs Doug, Pete and Lars and I congratulate you three on trying to maintain this Sunday bill of fare! It would be a shame to lose it. Cannot fail to mention Sir Nick with the photos he provides by way of our “steamed” Proprietor! [tup]


Sir Doug I gather that your domestic situation has not improved insofar as the neighbor downstairs is concerned. Being one known to resort to surreptitious means in order to quell an out of hand situation, my recommendations would have you land in the lockup! With a cooler head though, why not use your state law to bring this guy before a judge? Surely you must have sufficient grounds and evidence to pursue a case. A shame indeed that you and your family have to put up with any of his antics.


Sir Eric! välkommen till “Our” Place! [#welcome] I see that you have found us to be an interesting place and it appears that your photos have enthralled many of Captain Tom’s crew. Sorry that I will not be conversing with you in the near future. However, upon our return in the middle to late June, I look forward to some exchanges of information.

The best way to learn about all of us is to review the pages – beginning at ONE to get the “theme” of the place, then review perhaps the final FIFTEEN or so in reverse order. It helps. Of course, I read them all and it takes quite a bit of time, which I now have in my retired situation. However, with a marriage right around the corner, that may all soon change! <grin>

You should also find my accounting of a trip I experienced aboard the X2000 some years ago while traveling from Göteborg to Stockholm. View it as an attempt from a novice to participate with the “big boys”! [swg]

I should tell you upfront that I am hardly a railroad enthusiast nor am I a hobbyist. Thanks in large measure to the fellows here at the bar, I am learning and experiencing the wonders of trains through the postings and the books I have purchased. Once you acclimate yourself to the pages amassed at this bar, you will find my “revelations” stated here and there! [swg]


I wi***he best to those of you traveling to Toronto for the First Annual Rendezvous! That gathering should be “wired” in more than one way! <grin>


Captain Tom since I have no idea if I will be able to return to the bar before we depart – let me be the first to wish you a most happy Birthday! [bday] I had wanted to provide a “little something” for your day, but I am so far behind in these things, that I may not accomplish my lofty, but noble, goal! [swg]


Another round if you please, then I must be getting back to the activities!


BK in beautiful Alberta, Canada’s high mountain country!

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Just a brief round of acknowledgments before heading out to mow the "south forty." Rains on the way, and the grass is growing like - well, grass! Gotta get 'er done, otherwise Juneau would have trouble tracking those "Waskily Wabbits" that frequent our yard! [swg]

Surprise visit from BK this fine day! Good to read your words and thanx for the kind comments. Nice to find a place to "hide" every now 'n then, eh[?] It's amazing how the space within a house can shrink once company inhabits it! [swg] Much happiness to you and Lydia - safe trip! [tup][tup][tup] Appreicate the early B'day wishes!

Lars "my man," you do not have to extol the virtues of this barkeep. Once this stops becoming enjoyable - I stop. It's that simple. Can't make 'em drink the water, even if led to it. Hope things turn out positively for you and that your trip upstate can be avoided. "Things" seem to crop up at the most inopportune times, eh[?] Been there, done that! <rghhhhhhhh!>

Nice of you to provide the "Birthday" announcment - looks like I better show up, eh[?] Thanx! [tup]

Early morning visit from Ted - late night Posts from Rob - one day, we'll get this right! <grin>

Good to see ya again, Eric! Another "official" [#welcome] to the bar. First drink is on the house - so be sure to remember that next time! [tup][tup] I think Lars 'n BK pretty much summed up my thoughts about the place. Hope you enjoy . . .

Doug Appreciate your coming in - but the cartoons were much, much better than the jokes! [tdn] [swg]

Emails received from Mike - BK 'n Lars. Sorry, but I'm trying to stay away from those over the weekends - and really am only checking it once per day otherwise. Getting to be too much with two Threads to "babysit" along with that too. Responses sent where appropriate.


Gotta run - be back later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Running late today as we had what can best be called “The weekly Monday meeting to plan the weekly meeting.”

Gotta love it!

Rob – The RS3s you mentioned on PC and CR were called “De Witt geeps” because they were r/b at Syracuse. MKT had some beasts as well. Also, the maritime pictures were most enjoyable.

Barndad – thanks for the growing up around steam articles and for the picture of the home site and other photos.

Fermeister is here! I promise, no Newfoundland jokes!

Tom provided us with movies, Can-Am pictures (I bet his railroad makes most of its profits from the bar cars – just like the NYNH&H! BTW, I spotted you in the throng – the one lying under the lounge car, right?

Lars - I wondered how long the Mets game took as they were talking abt. it on Saturday. Also thanks for the SP pictures. The Olde Towne Team heads to da Bronx for three starting tomorrow evening – Becket vs. R. Johnson – should be interesting, if only for the psychology of the matchup.

Wanwheel and Lars – I used to ride the “Pan” to Louisville to see the trains, not the horses, on Derby Day. The coach yard to the west of the station would have been cleaned out and the usual collection of stuff moved elsewhere. The tracks would be filled with all sorts of private cars. Louisville area railroads also ran a variety of special moves so the camera would get a workout.

Theodorebear – Midland Valley – I’ll see what I can find out for you.

Nick Pix – Most interesting. Picture #3 sort of looks like the view from my front yard when you can see through the mist and the fog.

Pete – Thanks for the Essex pictures.

Here’s another one for the short line file.

The Lake Terminal RR Co.
Freight Connections with Baltimore and Ohio RR – Lorain, OH
NYC, N&W, Lorain and West Virginia Ry – So. Lorain, OH
Mileage of road operated 4.78
The LT was another road whose cars used to appear regularly in Boston; always gons.

The Lorain and West Virginia was owned by the Norfolk and Western. All of its mileage (24) was in Ohio.

I don’t know whether or not I will be online tomorrow because of scheduling commitments.

Work safe

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

<phew> That took a bit longer than usual; grass was thick and for the most part healthy. Had to wage a battle with some encroaching "chick weed" from a neighbor's yard - I think they raise the stuff! <frown> Anyway, Juneau appreciates my endeavors! [swg]

So, where are we[?] Hmmmm - just one customer, but a "regular" at that! [tup] Good to see ya, CM3!! Left "Shane" at home I see. [swg]

If Nick's Pix #3 reminds you of the view from your place - let's all consider having next year's Rendezvous there! [yeah] Love that kinda topography. [tup] What no discarded washing machine, refrigerator or stove[?] [swg]

Hey Pete I see that I failed to address one of your comments yesterday about Armadillos. Back when I was working for a living - and that's been awhile! - we had reports of those critters in southwest Missouri. The Highway Patrol guys would tell us stories about hitting 'em with their cruisers - thunk, thunk - kerblam - or something like that. Rather sturdy little devils, from what I've been told. Always associated 'em with Texas (ergo: Tex the Armadillo!) but there have been "incursions" that I'm aware of dating into the mid-80s.

Please convey our collective appreciation to your Mate - Alan - for sending you those Pix! [tup][tup][tup] You may also want to tell him that he has a free drink awaiting him - all he needs to do is stop by! [tup]

Nick you are truly an amazing individual. Not only do you "pick up" on the nuances with my Can-Am model RR, but you are "spot on" with providing descriptions for Pix from others! [wow] Diveristy 'R Us! [swg] Nice work with your Sunday Post! [[tup][tup][tup]

Gave a bit of thought to a past comment (couple of days ago I think) from our "friendly bear" - Theodorebear - regarding the "efficiency" of URLs, etc. Got me to thinking what this Thread would be like if that's the approach we all took. Would probably result in something rather sterile, something without interaction and perhaps a lot like those automated phone “menus” businesses and government seems to think is "efficient."

There's also the unintended consequence of spending gobs of time scrolling through the URLs and the secondary & tertiary avenues some of those lead to - which all has the effect of taking one AWAY from the Thread.

This is not a slam against anyone using URLs for effect, as our URLMeister Monster so aptly does. It's his "shtick" and it works well. For my [2c] I think the immediate impact of a Pix or appearance of something "creative" is far more effective. Perhaps not efficient, but effective nonethless.

Of course given a choice between a "hit 'n run" Post and one that is "on track" with URLs - I'd take the latter any time. [tup]


Also expended a bit of my grey matter thinking about this past weekend's activity here at the bar. I think we're experiencing a significant drawdown in the availability of our guys. Those comments from Lars 'n BK got me to thinking of ways to rekindle the interest - but I've come up with a "blank" - a bit unusual for me. There are so many opportunities to "partake" around here - it really comes down to having the "will" to do it. I don't buy into the "I'm too busy" stuff - and I think I've shared the reason for that with you on previous pages. It kinda equates to, "I'm really not interested" for the most part. Not for each 'n every situation - but I've found that excuse is rather "lame" for the most part. If one wants to - one finds the way.

Any more "brilliant ideas" from you two[?] <groan> [swg]


CM3 Nope - not under the lounge car - but close! I'm the guy selling "line tickets!" [swg] By the by, Fergie is originally from Ontario, if my recollection is on track, and now resides in Dartmouth (Halifax) Nova Scotia. I don’t think he’d mind a “Newfie” joke or three! [swg] Problem is – he doesn’t read our Posts! It’s a “Coffee Shop thing” I think that comes from years of “too many pages!”

Thanx for the round and quarters! [tup]


Rob Interesting vessel shots – looks like they could’ve fit right in with the U.S. Navy’s “fleet” over in China before WWII broke out. [swg] There was a Steve McQueen movie about that . . . The Sand Pebbles (1968 . . . maybe I’ll add that to an upcoming feature at the Emporium!


And finally, a THANX [tup] to Ted for helping to get the day “jump started” with his early morning Post! Have one on the house!


For anyone noticing, “my other thread” is about to surpass 1,000 replies (responses). That’s incredible, considering it all began pretty much as a “lark.” Now it seems to have caught on – but only with a handful from here – but still “alive!” [tup]


Okay – that pretty much says it all – now it’s up to the rest of you!


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Tom - The only thing "outside" that should be "inside" at the house today is a dead TV which is scheduled to be picked up tomorrow.

"Sand Pebbles?" Good choice. One of my favorite lines from that picture ... "Get those heathen !@#$% off my boat!" BTW, I got snookered into watching "Hunt for Red October" again yesterday. Not the greatest sub picture in the world, my award for that goes to "The Enemy Below, but still not a bad way to pass some time until the Red Sox game.

Almost forgot - NP dome sleepers ran on the South Wind after Amtrak as I rode one from Nashville to Chicago. Train ran into Central Station at Chicago after a tour of much of Illinois. They were in two-tone green and lettered for the North Coast Limited.

Hope to visit tomorrow.

work safe

Speaking of Canadian activity with a maritime flavor. There's a wonderful shot of the "Keewatin" (with Union Jack) at the dock in Port McNicoll, ON, with CP 1271 present. Check it out; it's in the Summer, 2006 issue of Classic Trains.

[LoveDomes]

G'day Capn Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

I've got a thirst - Inn keeper, a stein fer me, and a round fer me mates! <arggghhh>

The good news is: I'm still here on the "Island" - the uncertain news is: may have to leave on Wednesday. [tup][tdn] If me bride had anything to say about it (and she DOES!) I'd be one me way in a NY minute! However, I hold the "tie breaking vote!" [swg] (hope she isn't reading over me shoulda . . . . <grin>)

A surprise, but most welcome vist from my "bookend!" Good to see ya, mate and nice to know you've found a "hide out"!! [swg] Every guy needs one, now 'n then! <grin> The sand is runnin' out of the hour glass, huh[?] Pretty soon, well - you know the rest! Glad you made it by and if there's a chance that you can conjur up a thought or two - send them to me by email, I'll be sure to post 'em for ya! [tup]

The Sand Pebbles an "A number one" flick! Must see for the "Emporium!" Love it . . . Hadn't thought about those "China sailors" in years, and now I'm wantin' to view that movie! Nothing subliminal about those suggestions, huh[?]

Way to go - 3rd officer, Ted and 2nd officer, Shane! [swg] Logging on to help keep the place runnin' is a help to one and all, but 'specially so to our "steamed" Proprietor! [tup][tup][tup] Make sure these two get some "Specialty Grog" on me! [yeah]

Ah, the mountains of West Virginia bring back memories of a gal I knew once upon a wish! There she was, lookin' like something out of an Al Capp creation - short shorts - halter top - buxom as buxom can be - lips as rosey red as crimson - hair blowing in the wind - eyes as blue as the sky - teeth as white as the new fallen snow! I married her! [swg] . . . . . In my wildest dreams as a seagoing youth, that is! <grin>

The Hunt for Red October - the first in a great series of Tom Clancy thrillers. Love those stories. The movie wasn't all that bad - but being your basic surface sailor, and somewhat of an "elitist" when it comes to accuracy in film making - I'd give it a 4 star rating out of 5. Some great shots at the beginning - and Tom probably can attest to the use of that 180 ft USCG buoy tender supposedly up in the Barents Sea. The Mrs. just "loves" Sean and I don't stand a chance when he's on the screen. That always sends my mind wanderin' back to those mountains in WVA! [yeah]

Ok - enough of my wanderings and the like. Just wanted ya to know I'm still about the decks . . .

Until the next time! [tup]

Lars

[pwolfe]

HI Tom and all.

I see I am just in time for a round from LARS so a Bathams please.

Thanks for the comments on the pics. TED I have a couple more of the Essex for next week. Tom did post some for me earlier that the bride took on her digital, these ones I took on the 35mm. I too can remember the real steam rollers in action the dull ringing sound of the heavy rollers used to fetch us kids to watch it in use. The diesel rollers never seemed to hold the same attraction.

NICK Thanks for the info on the Peckett [tup] The dmu as far as I can make out is M51625.
Great descriptions of the photos, that house sure took a battering. Did Aberaeron have a really good Rugby team or am I thinking of somewhere else[?].

DOUG Glad there is light at the end of the tunnel with the neighboors

CM3 The big sporting events were always looked forward to for me as well, not for the event but for the often rare locos that were used for the special trains.
The big steeple-chase in the UK is the Grand National run at Aintree near Liverpool they sometimes show the 1967 running of it as a 100-1 outsider won after a pile up at one of the fences. I watch not for the race but for the sight of the steam locos in ajacent sidings on the specials. Steam would be finished in just over a year on BR and today the sidings have gone as well.[:(].

BK Glad you was able to call in the bar. I agree Sundays photo day really is special.
Hope all the preparations are going plan[tup].

LARS Dont worry about the M-in law jokes, in the UK there are comedians who have made a whole career telling them. The brides M-I-L is ok even slowing down so that I could watch a BNSF frieght[tup]
Great birthday notice[^][tup][tup][tup].

ROB Wonderful lake photos[tup][tup][tup] The RMS Segwun sure is a gem.
I have found some thing on the hep and will get it together.

TOM Great last set of Can-Am pics, love the snow[^].
We must of counted over a dozen armadillos in about 28 miles on the side of I-44 yesterday, with the new mile markers at 2 tenths of a mile.
I 'll pass on the offer of the free drink to Alan he is no doubt having his share of Guinness at the moment, on a 3-Day steam tour of Ireland .
Liked the police corner and looking forward to the Burlington Zephyrs tomorrow. PETE.

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!


Three more customers! Ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching-ching-aling!! [%-)]

Great seeing the reappearance of our WVA connection for a 2nd visit! [tup] Now, that’s dedication and great support in our “hour of need!” [swg]

So, a discarded TV, eh[?] Figgered there HAD to be something, just to ‘qualify’ you as a WVirginian! [swg] Sorry – but after living five years in the “real” Virginia – the jokes still haunt me! <grin>


Also a 2nd appearance from the Larsman! Totally unexpected, but most appreciated! [tup] So, what’s the deal up there in New York State[?] Inquiring minds, as someone coined, need to know! Your Email gave the location, but not the problem!
I have “those daze” myself! [swg]


Wolfman has emerged! Saw you “peeking in” a couple of times today and wondered whether the ‘puter was still causing you grief. Glad to see that you made it in. Seems that Rob has been having his problems with the “big screen” situation too. Sure would like to know the cause of that anomaly.

You say you saw a bunch of Armadillos along the roadside – alive[?] Amazing that they have made the migration – and now of course are breeding right here in the “Show Me State.” Of course, I’d rather not watch those critters mating! [:O]

Can’t model a Canadian rail scene without having a bit of the white stuff, eh[?] The favorite part of my layout are those areas inundated in it! [tup]


Wondering what kind of reception the Railroad from Yesteryear will get tomorrow, especially with 20 Fingers away from the Thread.


REMINDER!
Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)!


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]



BE SMARTER:
Use the “Reload/Refresh” as soon as you get to ”Our” Place.
It’s the only way to get the most current Posts!

[nickinwestwales]

Hello all,flying visit only tonight-[4:-)][oX)]TOM-refreshments of choice for the assembled gentlefolk please,another fine `Sunday Excursion`around the Can-Am--By hook or by crook,one day I will turn up on your doorstep to take a `guest throttle`on that fine piece of work...could be quite a challenge,making sure all the passenger runs go through with all those unexpected freight`extras` running...............[swg]

PETE-I have M51625 down as :- Derby works motor brake second ,no build date given,part of a four-sub unit,two Rolls-Royce 8 cyl horizontal engines of 238 B.H.P,hydraulic transmission.
no info as to previous history.
`M` prefix suggests L.M.R allocation,at least initially.....

For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the terminology,D.M.U`s or diesel multiple units are the Brit equivalent of R.D.C`s,-whilst the U.S. model has dictated a single car with controls at both ends approach the Brit version favours a minimum of 2 cars ( motor/brake/2nd + driving trailer/2nd) with additional centre cars drawn from the pool with minimal modifications for remote cab operation.
The likely formation of this unit is:-Motor/bk/2nd-composite-open 2nd-driving trailer 2nd
Gloucester R.C.W produced some very attractive single-unit cars
right,moonlight mile for me-Safe journey R.D.V travellers,look forward to some tales [tup][^][tup]

see you all soon,nick, [C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Hello Nick!

Good to see ya! Anytime you find your way to this Haus - you'll be more than welcome - Juneau awaits! [swg]

Over here, the RDC term has been relegated to the cars of the Budd Company. DMU on the other hand seems to have taken on a new life with the "light rail" vehicles. Either way - love 'em! [tup]

The one drawback of my experiences with model railroading - especially HO - involve the #^%# derailments. No matter how much care 'n attention given to the laying of track - no matter how many adjustments to trucks, wheels and couplers, I still am plagued with this problem. Backing up strings of passenger cars cause me the most grief. Drives me to distraction! (Driving me to drink is quite 'nother matter! [swg]) So, when you assume contol of the throttles - keep 'em moving forward, Mate - forward! [tup]

Appreciate the drink! Now it's my turn - Boris ring it . . . .

Tom.[4:-)] [oX)]

[pwolfe]

HI Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and a round please.

TOM Unfortunatly the 'dillos were all 'deed' by the road as they say in Scotland, but one of the bride's moms neighbors had a live one in her garden which they had not seen for quite a while.
As there been any sign of TEX getting frisky [:O].

The puter has been a bit funny today but getting there eventuly. but since switching to the new system it is miles better. I can imagine trying to post pictures etc with the old system.

NICK Thanks for the DMU details. I believe those Rolls-Royce 4-Car units were used on the Bedford to St Pancreas or a slightly different design but the same appearence on the services out of London Marylebone. Both types would have the M prefix as the ex Great Central out of Marylebone were under London Midland control when the units were introduced.
I do hope you can get to Missouri some day [yeah].

ROB I have found out about the BR locomotives which were converted to provide Head End Power.
In the early 80s BR was phasing out steam heating and were introducing new Mk III sleeping cars. By this time quite a few classes were capable of providing HEP, the problem was on the West Highland line from Glasgow to Fort William in Scotland. which was not able to take the larger diesels. the passenger services at the time was in the hands of steam heat class 37 CO-CO diesel locos.It wasdecided to convert some of the 37s with alternators and be able to provide HEP.
Before the 37/4s, as the sub-class were known, would be ready, it was decided to convert three BR/ Sulzer BO-BO class25 diesels nearing the end of their days, as non-powered locos able to provide HEP. in theUK this was known as ETH. The locos carried Departmental running numbers 97250/1/2 and were known as ETHELs or
Electric Train Heat Ex Locomotives.
After the 37/4s were ready, in abpout 1986 the Ethels found a new job providing ETH for steam specials they were not very popular in this role as the rule at the time meant they had to be right behind the steam loco.
As I asked my mate in England ( not Alan), a die hard steam fan, if he remembered them his reply was
" I remember the [censored][censored] things HIC-DE-BOP-DE-BOP-DE-BOP instead of hearing the steam loco" (which was a very good imitation of the sound of an Ethel).
I can remember ads for steam tours which said " No Ethel, dress warmly.
The Ethels were withdrawn in the early 90s heat for the steam tours was provided by a generator in the luggage area of a car.

For some photos and a lot more detail a great web-site on the Class25s. I must admit one of my favourite class of diesel.
http://www.derbysulzers.com/
Select Main Menu and scroll down to The Ethels.

I had better have another Bathams TOM. PETE.

[trolleyboy]

Good evening folks, I is here, or am I. Been that kind of day.I too have done battle with my back 40 today it was beginning to look like the hundred acre woods [:O][sigh]. I must look at buying a sheep or two [swg]

Tom I did recieve your email and it has been responded to.In three days or less we'll be raising a tankard or two ( dozen ) [:O][;)][:D]It was interesting reading your ponderings about Tex's kinfolk ( citters ) I remember seeing many of them either dead or slowley moving along the sides of the interstates in the Carolinas and Florida, and Georga. I certainly would not want to hit one [tdn]. Glad you liked the Muskoka fleet shots, those three ships are the last of what at one point was hundreds of small and large steamers that plied the landlocked lakes of Central Ontario, the Segwun is just shy of 200' long and her triple expansion steam engines will move her along at 16 knots still ! To think at one point the museum there was just going to use her as a floating museum/ restaurant. They were refitting her bigger sister Sagamo as a steaming excursion ship, the "Sag" was newer ( built in 1903 ) but she unfortunatly burnt to the waterline in 1969 while being rebuilt, sooo Segwun was reactivated. She had been idled in 1953 when she ran over a submerged rock and tore baldes off both her screws ! The old ones are still on display at the ticket office. Anyhow it's anice cruise with great food should anyone wi***o partake . Heres the url if anyones interested. http://www.muskokafleet.com/

Lars Good luck with your new found property woes. Hopefully you can fix it via the phone, I wouldn't want to be the guy at the other end if you gots to go up there. Vito and his boyz will likley be glad to "splain "it to them however.I hope everyone does take note of thee[bday] bash of the year on the 18th !I know a howling pack of hyenenas couldn't keep me from helping out at it.

BK Good to see you just breifly, sounds like everything is falling into place for you and the bride to be. congrates again and happy landings for your trip. [tup]

Ted I think that I shall ignore the mink underware comment, other than wouldn't that itch [?] [swg][:O] take a boo at the Muskoka fleet website lots of neat pictures of the lakes and the history et all. Heather and I take a cruise with them once a summer. gravenhurst is only a 4 hour ride from our place and the Muskoka region is Gods country for sure.

Pete Glad you liked the shots, I look forward to reading the HEP info.[tup]

Eric Let me also [#welcome] you to our happy little place here on the web [tup]

CM3 I'm still trying to find the info I had on C&NW's baldwin rebuilds. They were wierd with a capitol "W". Who else but the C&NW graft cabs onto E9 B units for commutor trains, or run GP7 and 9 repowered Baldwins with the EMD motor sections.Of coarse CN did rebuild a couple dozen SW1200RS with later 567 motors and the long hoods from GP's to make what railfans refered to as a "sweep" Lots of neat stuff out there to chat about fer sure.

Rob

[trolleyboy]

Good evening again gents. leon a round of CR while I adda bit o info of the Cklassic nature. Here's another esoteric amd long forgotten steam road from the pioneer days of Ontario.

CLASSIC STEAM # 24 THE CENTRAL ONTARIO RAILWAY

The COR Into The Hills of Gold

The Central Ontario Railway was a 117 mile run that stretched from Trenton Ontario North to Maynooth and Lake St Peter. It was a road that served the many minning towns and villiages of the area.

Begun in 1873, the line was ultimatly intended to Link with the legondary Booth railway the Ottawa Arnprior and Parry sound Ry ( classic steam # 22 ) near Whitney Ontario.While the line made it through the sheild rock and swamp 3 miles shy of Booth's road is where it ended at Wallace on Lake St Peter. The actuial terminus as far as passengers went was at Maynooth just to the south. Here the railway had it's yards,turntables, and it's largest station.

The stroy starts in Prince Edward County, with the completion of a line between Picton( although the Port of Long Point was the original target ) and Trenton jct, the roads link with the Grand Trunk just north of the town of Trenton itself. ( Trenton is on the Bay of Quinte )However the gold rush north of Trenton and Belleville caught the eyes of the railroads builders and in 1866 they were determined to built to these new found gold fields before anyone else, chiefly their main rivals the builders of the Grand Junction Railroad who were hurrying to build a line from Belleville northwest to Peterborough, this openned in 1879. A branch led north from Peterborough from Madoc Jct to the ill-fated goldfields at Eldorado Ontario. Tyhe gold was not as plentifull as hoped but other more mundane minerals convinced the builders of the COR to continue north : iron ore.

In 1882 the construction of the new lines to the iron ore producing areas began. The first destination was Coe Hill, centre of the earliest of these iron discoveries. later prospectors found more in the hills around Bancroft, the line reached Bancroft in 1900.In 1909 Mackenzie and Mann's Canadian Northern laid it's Ottawa to Toronto mainline through Trenton , and added the branches and mainline of the COR to their ever expanding empire. The COR replaced their wooden depot at trenton with a huge three story and extended the north end of the line through to Maynooth where another larger station was built. It met the Irondale Bancroft and Ottawa ( IBO ) at Bird's Creek just north of Bancroft completing the web of branches that were the COR.All along the route small brancjes radiated like veins out to all of the mining camps in the area. Most were open pit type mines as the ore was close to the surface.

Gradually as the various mines depleted the branches were closed down. The lines in Cordova closed in 1941, to Bessemer and Lake st Peter in 1965 and to Coe Hill in 1966.CNR tried of running the short lines that were left as they felt them to be unproffitable even though several small and large paper plants and other industries were located on them. The Paper plants at Glenn Ross and Glenn Millar particularly of note. The CNR steadily chopped back the COR until all of the liones north of Marmora were gone by 1982. By 1986 the link between Trenton and Marmora was gone as well.


Rob

[trolleyboy]

hello again Leon another round for the gentry please.

pete just reread the story of the Ethels interesting stuff [tup]This just proves that it's not only the NA railroads that love there anachronisims for things rebuilt in their shops. MATES, SLUGS, DMU's, SWEEPS etc et al. I wonder if anyone thought ot save an Ethel for posterity [?]They do sound like an interesting unit. I will quickly go to the url to see these critters for myself.

Soeaking of all things unusual. I manged to get a couple pictures of an ex IC prime mover car in the middle of a CN train through Brantford. once the films in I will post them for you folks. An interesting bit of railroading, it's designed to carry a complete primemover for a modern locomotive from shop to shop. It was empty at the time but bound for Mac yard in Toronto.

Rob

[siberianmo]

Toronto: courtesy: www.viarail.ca


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-- Reporters interviewing a 104-year-old woman: "And what do you think is the best thing about being 104?" the reporter asked. She simply replied, "No peer pressure."

-- The nice thing about being senile is you can hide your own Easter eggs.

-- Just before the funeral services, the undertaker came up to the very elderly widow and asked, "How old was your husband?" "98," she replied. "Two years older than me." "So you're 96," the undertaker commented. She responded, "Hardly worth going home, is it?


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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) EricX2000 (Eric) Posted: 08 May 2006, 01:11:24 (325) 2nd visit!

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 May 2006, 05:26:53 (325) Monday’s Info & Summary!

(3)Theodorebear
Posted: 08 May 2006, 05:59:40 (325) Right Coast report!

(4) barndad Doug Posted: 08 May 2006, 06:11:36 (325) 3-joke-morning!

(5) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 08 May 2006, 07:59:52 (325) Lars Report!

(6) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 08 May 2006, 08:13:36 (325) B’day Bash announcement!

(7) BudKarr BK Posted: 08 May 2006, 10:10:01 (325) Surprise BK Report!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 May 2006, 10:34:18 (325) Acknowledgments, etc.

(9) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 08 May 2006, 11:37:35 (325) WVA Monday Report!

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 May 2006, 14:25:28 (325) Acknowledgments & Comments

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Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

Just some stuff....for CB&Q theme.. streamlined.

First excerpt from Dec. 99 Railway Age article, Passenger Rail in the 20th Century:

"The railroads' response to the competitive threat of the automobile was, in effect, to reinvent the passenger train, remaking it into something much faster and far more comfortable and appealing than the solid, drab rolling stock of the railroad's "standard" era.

The genesis of this new era of passenger rail lay in experimentation with internal combustion power that had begun soon after the turn of the century. There were several attempts to develop a self-propelled railcar using an internal combustion powerplant, but the first really successful design was developed in 1906 by General Electric, which went on to market nearly a hundred gasoline-electric cars over the next decade. GE left the railcar field after World War I, but the gas-electric railcar market was soon taken up by the new Electro-Motive Company of Cleveland. Employing GE electrical components and Winton engines, Electro-Motive developed a highly successful line of gas-electrics, selling some 177 of them to North American railroads between 1922 and 1936.

Electro-Motive's gas-electric was an austere "maid of all work" vehicle designed for local and branch line services, but the new powerplant it pioneered offered great promise for a wider application in railroad service. By the end of the 1920s other builders were producing standardized boxcab diesel-electric locomotives for switching, freight, and passenger services. And by the early 1930s two railroads, Union Pacific and the Burlington, were ready to try the new powerplant in an entirely new kind of intercity passenger train.

The UP's new train, the M-10000, was a sleek three-unit articulated train built by Pullman-Standard, while the Budd Company of Philadelphia built the similarly configured Burlington Zephyr. Both, however, were fitted with powerplants supplied by Electro-Motive, by this time a division of General Motors. The UP train had a 600-hp distillate engine supplied by GM's Winton division, while the Burlington took a chance on GM's newly-developed 600-hp 201A high speed diesel engine."

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Next excerpt from "The History Behind the California Zephyr" by David Lotz (www .broadway-limited.com/products/calzephyrhist.htm)

"The new, lightweight, streamlined trains of the Burlington needed a name that would evoke thoughts of speed and strength, and convey to the riding public that these trains were the “last word” in modern railroad travel. The perfect name leapt off the pages of the prologue to Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales as Ralph Budd read:

When in April the sweet showers fall

When also Zephyrus with his sweet breath

Exhales in air in every grove and heath

Then people long to go on pilgrimages

And palmers long to seek the stranger stand

Of far-off saints, hallowed in sundry lands

Zephyrus! The Greek personification of the west wind, was recognized as a force of renaissance and change. The Anglo-Saxon derivative would be Zephyr, short, sweet and simple. The name would convey the hopes, optimism and destiny of the new Burlington train. In the twenty years following the first Zephyr, later known as the Pioneer Zephyr, Budd would build eleven successively more advanced Zephyrs, leading to the ultimate evolution, the California Zephyr – a virtual symphony in 18-8!"

Ralph Budd (1879-1962) was president of Great Northern (1919-1931) and Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (1932-1949). He superintended construction of the 7.79-mile Cascade Tunnel that eliminated 1,000 feet of rise and fall in elevation, the 40-mile Dotsero cutoff that created a third competitive transcontinental route, and the inland route between San Francisco and Oregon. His diesel-powered Pioneer Zephyr ushered out steam-powered passenger trains.

Is not related to

Edward G. Budd (1870-1946) founded the Budd Co. in 1912 in Philadelphia to produce steel automobile bodies. When railroads moved to modernize passenger trains, Budd in 1934 designed and built the three-car stainless steel Pioneer Zephyr, which ushered in streamliners. Budd Co. later built the first Metroliners.

PHOTO OPS

Children and adults alike await the CB&Q Railroad's newest stainless steel train, the Mark Twain Zephyr, as it enters Union Depot on October 25, 1935 at 9:10 a.m. http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ7002.jpg

Del King, announcer for the Columbia Broadcasting System (left), watches Ralph Budd, President of the CB&Q Railroad (right), as he delivers an address to the nation via radio. http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ7004.jpg

Nina Gabrilowitsch, granddaughter of Samuel Clemens holds the bottle of domestic champagne she will use to christen the Mark Twain Zephyr http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ0062.jpg

http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ7015.jpg Huckleberry Finn

http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ0082.jpg Tom Sawyer

http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ7020.jpg Becky Thatcher

10 YEARS LATER on October 25,1945

The Mark Twain Zephyr is honored for its tenth birthday. The celebration includes the placement of 10 year chevrons by Ralph Budd, President of the CB & Q Railroad. The ceremony takes place at Union Depot where the original dedication was also held. The Zephyr appears to be in good shape considering it has traveled 1,767,180 miles. President Harry S. Truman, who attended the original dedication ceremony as a U.S. Senator, is unable to attend but sends a congratulatory telegram.

http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ7036.jpg

http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ7035.jpg

CB&Q ROUNDHOUSE at HANNIBAL in the 1920s http://www.hannibal.lib.mo.us/mtzeph/wZ1352.jpg

EDWARD not RALPH BUDD built
http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/DULUTH-MASSABEE-IRON-RANGE_MN_BUDD-RDC3.jpg
DULUTH RDC

ALGOMA CENTRAL pic
http://www.railtravelcenter.com/images/Algoma-Central-RR2.jpg

Eastbound Canadian just west of the Continental Divide on the CP line west of Lake Louise, Alberta. The photo was taken in September 1989, a few months before the Canadian was re-routed to the CN line through Jasper. http://www.trainnet.org/Libraries/Lib003/VIACDN.GIF

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and all! I'll have the usual two lite breakfasts please. Nice article on the COR from Rob yesterday, and I see that Mike has typed-up a theme related article for today! Great job gentlemen! Here's my humble effort for today's theme:

From Railroad History in Photographs R&LHS



Fort Worth and Denver E5 unit No. 9980B “Silver Warrior” leads a long Exposition Flyer westbound through Somonauk, Ill., a small town about 45 minutes out of Chicago. The E5 passenger diesel was a “one-off” EMD locomotive model built only for the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy in 1940, both for backup Zephyr services, and also as primary power for premier heavyweight passenger trains on the Chicago-Denver line (No. 9980B was purchased for Texas Zephyr service). The FW&D was a component of the Burlington.

The Burlington E5’s had distinctive, Budd-constructed, fluted stainless steel carbodies, and although having a “family resemblance” to EMD’s earlier E3 and E4, and subsequent E6 locomotives, the side window arrangement was totally different, and there were other significant differences as well. Note the removable skirts above the trucks.

The Exposition Flyer was a Chicago=-Oakland train shared with Denver & Rio Grande Western and Western Pacific, originally to serve the 1939 San Francisco Golden Gate Exposition. It was the success of this train that eventually broke ground for its more famous successor in 1949, the California Zephyr.

On the date of the photograph, the photographer tells us that the train was flying “at full speed.” It had to! Just months before, competitor Milwaukee Road with its new superfast Midwest Hiawatha had seriously challenged the Burlington’s important Chicago-Omaha market. The Burlington, not having a competing streamliner of its own, responded by accelerating the heavyweight Flyer on its Chicago-Omaha segment, almost meeting the Milwaukee’s time. This photo was taken in early afternoon, March, 1941.



Among America’s legendary passenger trains was the California Zephyr, operated jointly by the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy between Chicago and Denver, the Denver & Rio Grande Western between Denver and Salt Lake City, and the Western Pacific between Salt Lake and Oakland. The train was noteworthy for its modern Budd stainless steel cars with Pullman and coach accommodations, including numerous Vista domes. It had a schedule designed for daylight transits of both Rocky Mountain and Sierra Nevada scenery; comfortable travel and excellent service were the Zephyr’s watchwords. Inaugurated in March, 1949, the train, widely and familiarly known as the “CZ,” survived until March 22, 1970, when WP was granted a discontinuance for their segment. For a short time, CB&Q and D&RGW used their part of the CZ equipment to provide service as far west as Ogden, whence passengers had to take Southern Pacific trains over the Sierra.

At the time of the initiation of Amtrak in April, 1971, D&RGW declined to join, and continued a segment on the CZ tradition with its Rio Grande Zephyr between Denver and Salt Lake City. Eventually though, D&RGW reached an agreement with Amtrak, and the California Zephyr train name was revived in July, 1983, for Amtrak service over the original Rocky Mountain route. Bat farther west, the train traversed SP’s Donner Pass line, not the WP’s Feather River Canyon.

The photo shows westbound No. 17 at Stockton, Calif. Headed by passenger-geared F7 unit No. 804, the motive power carries the famous WP passenger paint scheme, an orange and silver body with red nose wings. Beginning with its wartime FT units, Western Pacific became a firm believer in EMD power, and used both F3 and F7 locomotives on the Zephyr. This image dates from about 1952. Western Pacific photo.

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