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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, May 5, 2006 4:39 PM
Good Afternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a CR and a round for the house.
I never knew a woman could pack so much stuff to go away for four days. I have everything I need for four daus with the brother in Law in one small bag. The wife is taking two large bags and her sister likewise. Can't imagine why anyone needs five pair of shoes for four days. I have surprised them with tickets to Celine Dion that will be waiting at their hotel.

Pennsylvania
(PRR)
Streamlined Dome Cars
By Al

The PRR began operating a streamlined train between Chicago and Miami every third day beginning December 19, 1940. This train was named the SOUTH WIND a seven car coach streamliner like its counterparts IC and FEC introduced at the same time between Chicago and Miami.
Between the FEC DIXIE FLAGLER and IC CITY OF MIAMI along with the PRR owned SOUTH WIND daily coach streamliner service was instituted between Terminal Cities Chicago and Miami. Only the FEC tracks between Jacksonville and Miami hosted all three trains.
The SOUTH WIND was a seven car Coach streamliner built new for the service by Budd and painted in the PRR Tuscan Red defeating the purpose of buying a stainless steel train. The original seven car train consist follows:

6700 Baggage 16-Crew Dormitory 18-Seat Coach

4022 60-Revenue Seat Coach

4023 60-Revenue Seat Coach

4518 48-Seat Dining Car

4020 60-Revenue Seat Coach

4021 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1126 Kitchen 16-Seat Dining 35-Seat Lounge Observation

Following WW II the PRR added a second consist of the SOUTH WIND and added streamlined sleeping cars to both.
When it was learned that IC rival CITY OF MIAMI was going to lease Dome sleeper for the winter of 1959 the PRR decided to do the same to the SOUTH WIND consists.
The story for the Pennsylvania was similar to the IC except the PRR operated the leased NP Vista-Dome Sleeping cars in full NP colors, they never repainted any of the leased cars into PRR Tuscan red, they were assigned to the SOUTH WIND operating every other day between Chicago and Miami.
The first winter the PRR leased a pair of the Vista-Dome sleeping cars SP&S 306 and NP 309 was 1959.
After that winter the NP was unable to lease out dome sleepers due to traffic demands on the NORTH COAST LIMITED. It would be four years before dome sleepers returned to the SOUTH WIND consists in 1963 they leased SP&S 306 and NP 307, the same two cars returned for the winter of 1964. In 1965 it was CB&Q 304 and NP 307. In 1966 SP&S 306 returned along with NP 307. For the final year of leasing Vista-Domes for the winter 1967 SP&S 306 and NP 310 were the selected pair.
These became the only Domes to operate on the PRR.

TTFN Al
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, May 5, 2006 7:33 PM
G'day Gents!

Al We have some "rules" here at the bar - several as a matter of fact! One of particular significance is that we NEVER - EVER - try to rationalize the behavior of the "fairer sex!" A definite Tweetable offense! . . . . Rule #19! [swg] However, in light of your "situation" and impending "transfer" to your brother-in-laws house - dispensation has been "awarded!"

That "South Wind" consist you mentioned must have looked a bit "funky" - kinda like when Amtrak came on the scene with all those "mixed" consists. Couldn't locate any definite domes that could be attributed to the "SW" - but several cars that had, at one time or another, been used on the Miami run.

Pete Regarding the GG1s - there are no operating units left that I'm aware of. The power grid system of today would probably be an "issue" for a GG1. As I understand it, those units were designed to run at 25 cycles (HZ) - the power grid of today is at or near 60 (HZ). Restoration - big time - would have to be undertaken. Fine machines for their time, to be sure. RIP! [tup]

Good to see visits by Rob - BK 'n Lars - makes for an interesting day at the "Feast or Famine bar 'n grill!" [swg]


Pennsy GG-1 (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)


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Posted by wanswheel on Friday, May 5, 2006 7:37 PM
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

Viva Cinco de Mayo! and a salute to the thousands of Mexicans who crossed the border after Pearl Harbor to serve in our Army, Navy and Marine Corps. . http://www.verdecanyonrr.com/VCR_PressReleases/PR_2-05Ole.htm

And some old PRR pics. I'll be sociable another time. The Mets are on.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 5, 2006 9:08 PM
Good evening Tom and friends! I could really use a bottomless draught this evening, and am more than ready to buy a round for the house. I even remembered to bring a dozen Michigan quarters for jukebox. Just for the record, I incorrectly stated that our farmhouse move was in 2 weeks. That was wrong. The actual move date is June 5th, with a hundred trips with small car loads from now till then. So there’s still time for all the painting I want to get done before we get a bunch of stuff in the way.

Speaking of stuff …. Time for me to try to catch-up on the stuff that’s here. I see a very successful CB&Q theme day from last Tuesday, with Tom leading the way, Al providing a well-done streamline sleeping car post, followed by Shane’s historical post, and then a historical post from Tom (nice Zephyr pix). Then Al posted the 2nd part of his sleeping car information (which was longggggggg and great!) followed by two CB&Q dome postings. Very well done gentlemen! Terrific stuff indeed!

Congratulations to our April MVP Lars ! Well deserved, and great idea to create this award Tom. Not to take anything away from Lars, but I think we all know who the real MVP has been for the past 12 months …….

Real funny URL of the sheep getting loaded in the stock car Mike. I can see this is just the beginning of the sheep jokes for me. Rob, the open house for the condo is tomorrow. I’ll be in Woodstock though …with my though. By the way, nice post to cap the theme day!

I’ll have to get better caught-up later, but let me leave this 3rd part of the Growing Up around Steam post for ya’ll:

Growing Up Around Steam Locomotives by Robert A. Janz and Darwin Cooper
Vintage Rails No. 17, 1999

At 5:45 that afternoon I was eagerly waiting for the switch engine and crew to roll up so the exciting adventure could begin. Al Nielson came walking up shortly after the arrival of the switcher and ushered me up into the cab. With me sitting in the fireman’s seat and Al at the throttle, we chugged slowly out to the roundhouse to put the engine to bed for the night. I noticed how the engine swayed back and forth on the uneven roadbed and low joints. We moved alongside rows and rows of bad order gondola cars.

Looking across the backhead over at Al at the throttle and out his window, I saw the remains of the huge sheep yards that had burned down a year or two before. The towering concrete coal chute loomed ahead, and Al spotted the engine’s tender right under one of the chutes. He then told me to remain seated in the fireman’s seat, after which he went down the cab steps, climbed up the rear of the tender, and pulled a long rope dangling from the chute until it was lowered into the tender and coal cascaded into the bunker. The coal dust floating through the cab convinced me to get an engineer’s hat for the next time out.

After completing this operation, Al eased the engine ahead to a section of track with metal sheets between the rails. Off to the side was a big pile of ashes. “Well, Dar,” Al said, “what do you suppose we are going to do now?” I mumbled something like, “guess we are going to do something with the fire in the firebox.” He nodded with a “yup” and pulled down from the top of the tender a big iron shaker bar that was formed at the end to fit on the metal bars sticking up through the floor of the cab just in fron of the firebox. I was familiar with shaking the grates in the furnace in my home, so this seemed logical and understandable. We shook the fire out of the firebox down onto the metal pans between the rails. Even though I was only 12 years old, I had no trouble doing my share, since I was taller and stronger than the average boy my age.

Upon finishing that task, Al moved the engine up about 50-75 feet, where I noted a big pile of scrap boards. “Now the hard work begins,” said Al as he handed me a shovel to help remove all the ashes we had just dumped out of the locomotive. As I recall we didn’t use a wheel barrow, but threw the ashes onto a pile about 10 feet away from the track. The city and county highway departments picked up these ashes for use in street repairs, and for spreading on the streets and roads during icy and snowy weather.

We had one more task to perform before we could head for home. Al led me back to the engine and up the steps into the cab. He then proceeded to demonstrate how to throw coal into the firebox and cover all areas of the grate evenly. We did this and covered the firebox surface with about six inches of coal. After finishing this we went over to the wood pile and threw a dozen or so long scrap boards up into the cab on the floor. We then threw the boards into the firebox and threw a thin layer of coal on top of the lumber. Al then checked the water glass to determine the level of the boiler and decided to turn on the injector while there was still enough steam pressure to do so. He then explained that we’d be all ready to start the fire in the morning.

While walking along the track back to Madison Street, Al asked me if I would like to do this again. Of course I said I wanted to do it as often as he permitted me. He invited me back at about six in the morning to see how to start up the fire.

The next morning I rode my bike over to the south end of North Yard, parked it in the weeds by the track, and walked out to the roundhouse. As I approached the coal tower I could hear and see that Al was filling the tower with coal. He was inside the hopper car hammering away at the sides to get the coal to slide out into the coal pit below. He didn’t put me through the rigors and dangers of doing this on this day, but I did it many times later.

He was just finishing up the coaling operation, so we soon walked over to where the switcher was parked and climbed up into the cab to start the fire, after he had pulled a couple of handfuls of oily waste out of a big bin located next to the hostler shanty. The procedure was to light a handful of waste and throw it strategically onto the lumber in the firebox. After the fire got going well, we would throw more coal on evenly throughout the box. With the blower on full blast, we had a full head of steam up in two or three hours.

Around 10-10:30 a.m., it was time to run the engine down to the south end of the yard at Madison Street, where the switching crew, consisting of the engineer, fireman, and two switchmen, would board the engine and run over the Kishwaukee bridge to the south side of Belvidere to commence their work for the day. We climbed up into the cab, and to my surprise Al said, “Get up there in the engineer’s seat and you run her, Dar.”

With joy and temerity I sat on the seat, and Al showed me the throttle, Johnson bar, air brakes for the engine, and the cylinder cocks lever. The first thing Al had me do was to locate the cylinder cocks lever on the cab floor in front of the engineer and push it forward with my foot. To do this I had to squeeze by the Johnson bar, a lever that came up through the floor in front of the engineer. Al had me pu***his forward, and it was tough because it was not powered by air or steam. I then tested the air brakes as instructed, and we were ready to go.

Now it was time to pull the throttle, which I tugged at with caution. The first sound was the hissing of steam from the open cylinder cocks, which were spewing out the excess moisture from the cylinders. We had to stop to throw a switch a little further on, and Al told me when to shut off the throttle and when to apply the air brake. From that day onward every day that summer, and at other times, Al let me run the engines (0-6-0s, 4-6-0s, and one 2-8-0) between the roundhouse and Madison Street about a mile away. How could this happen without Al getting into trouble with railroad officials? Simply because the freight yard had been closed in 1931, and there were no other employees in the roundhouse area. Also there were no railroad officials stationed at Belvidere, and everything moved at a casual pace.

This was indeed an unbelievable paradise for a boy who was totally immersed in railroads and steam. That summer of 1940, I went out to North Yard to help Al Nielson service the engines twice a day, six days a week. In fall 1940, I started delivering milk early every morning, so in summer 1941, I wasn’t able to help Al early in the morning, but helped him knock out the fires of the engines most every evening. Whenever I was there I ran the engine. There were times that I knocked out the fires or started them in the morning on my own, when Al was busy in the coal tower area trying to get all the coal out of a car. By this time I knew how to operate every valve, lever and cord in these relatively simple steam engines. One thing I had trouble with was operating the injectors properly. I guess I just didn’t understand the principle of how it worked to get it to prime right. The injector pulled water from the tender into the boiler.

Al had to make minor repairs on locomotives from time to time, and I had the fun of helping him with this too. In fact, he really did need my help at times. I recall helping repair a brake shoe on the driver of an engine. Another time I crawled into an engine firebox to fix one of the grates.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, May 5, 2006 10:43 PM
Good evening again folks. i don't see Tom so I guess Leon's hiding out behind Boris's shed again. Oh well I'll leave a twenty for a round for our pool room rowdy's.

Doug Hey glad that you popped back in, First off good luck on that open house,secondly great little article sir some neat info there.Neat recollections of the dirty side of steam railroading. Glad you liked the E5 article.

Pete Have a good weekend excursion. [tup] No hurry on the HEP stuff,perhaps your friend Alan can get some info for you when you are back home.

BK Let me give you guys a [tup] and congradulations on your upcomming nuptuals and [tup][tup] for your vacation enjoy yourselves and we shall keep the homefires burning here as it were.

Lars yeah mid may bird flu for the JAYS mind you they killed the Angels tonight wierd season so far. i'm abit overwhelmed by the emails lately myself, I think I'm back on the upside of them again however. One more day of work for me tomorrow then I'm off and just await Tom and Ted's arrivals at the end of the week. Sure we can't slip you into Tom's luggage [swg] Good idea on dropping an Email to Eric he does seem like Our places kind of people.

Mike Nice shots from hamburg as always some great shots. Hope you enjoyed you Cinco de Mayo baseball game !

Al Nice extra Pennsey stuff. I too have given up on figuring out why Heather packs what she packs for trips , I just smile and load the trunk ( safer that way ) [swg]

Tom Nice pictures of your favourite of favourites. There's one museum member that is an absolute GG1 fan / foamer. He often wondered if Steamtown would have missed theirs if he hooked it up to his truck and ragged it to the Museum.Not that we could run it as it would likely eat the trackwork with it's weight. Easily they were the most reconnizable NA electric locomotive. BTW have you bought one of the Broadway LTD HO ones with sound yet [?]


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Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, May 5, 2006 11:02 PM
CLASSIC DIESELS # 21 RAILROAD REPOWERING

This is a bit of info I have dug out,sparked by CM3's mention of the EMD repowering of older traded in locomotives.It was not uncommon for railroad shops to purchase EMD power units new or salvage Prime Movers out of wrecked units to extend the life of minority power.The following is a slight chart of some repowering of older ALCO diesels with EMD prime movers. In most cases the repowerings were done to replace the need to have spares for many different type of locomotive power plants. A reduced and homoginized inventory of parts was cheaper and more efficient for many railways.Espaecailly as the second generation of diesels founnd many of the minor locomotive manufacturers had gone out of business. The Baldwins and FM's and ALCO's of the world.

REPOWERING ALCO ROAD SWITCHERS 1200-2000 HP BB's

PC & Conrail rebuilt 55 RS3's with EMD 567c's in 1972-78 ( 1200hp )
Amtrak rebuilt 3 RS3's with EMD 567d's in 1981-84 ( 1200hp )
GB&W rebuilt 4 RS3's with MLW 251c engine 1975 ( 2000hp )
L&N rebuilt 1 RS3 with an MLW 251c engine 1973 ( 2000hp )
LSSCo rebuilt RS2 with a catapiller KTA3087 engine in 1982 ( 1800hp)

These rebuilds were performed in the railways own shops trunin the old 244 1600 horse roadswitchers into more modern easier to maintain locomotives. In most cases the short hoods weer chopped down in the Amtrak cases EMD style cabs were added.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:38 AM
Good morning Tom and friends! I'll have a coffee roll from the Mentor Bakery, if you please. Glad you liked the steam article Rob. Here is the conclusion to read with your morning coffee. It isn't very long ... so drink fast!

Growing Up Around Steam Locomotives by Robert A. Janz and Darwin Cooper
Vintage Rails No. 17, 1999

When I think back on this period in my young life, the first word that comes to mind is “harmony.” I loved railroading and steam engines, and I was allowed to have this experience which put me in complete harmony with my environment. What a fulfilling experience! I remember the smell of oil, grease, and coal dust on my engineman’s gloves; the acrid smell of the cinders and ashes from the locomotive’s firebox; the sweet smell of of the moisture laden steam spewing from the cylinder cocks; the panting of the air pumps; the humming of the dynamo; the noisy blower turned on full blast to get up a hot fire; but most importantly the feeling that I was where I should be.

Perhaps the most exciting event during this time was the appearance of a class Z 2-8-0 type locomotive. Because of increased tonnage in November 1941, the North Western started using a class Z engine on the way-freight from Chicago every Monday, Wednesday ad Friday. This meant that there also had to be a smaller R-1 4-6-0 type around to operate the way-freight west of Belvidere because of weight restrictions on a bridge at Cherry Valley.

The exciting thing for me was that I was going to get a chance to see a bigger engine than the R-1s, M-1s, and the class D 4-4-2s used on passenger trains through the Belvidere. I’ll never forget my first view of the class Z engine. It had a short stack and a large boiler and looked so big and high. The short stack meant real power to me. Yes, I ran this engine too. What I remember is that the throttle was hard for me to pull. Also, it was the first time I ever saw a Johnson bar that was small and power operated.

A month or two later, I planned to go out early on a Saturday morning to help Al, especially since I knew the Z would be there. On Friday a winter storm hit Belvidere and brought in sub-zero temperatures with very high winds. My mother tried to convince me that I should give up my plans. Of course, I would not be deterred. The wind roared all night, and Saturday morning was bitter cold. I dressed warmly and walked the two miles to North Yard (couldn’t use my bike due to snow and cold).

When I got to the engine terminal area, Al was there trying to thaw out the switch engine and class Z engine 1846. In addition, he had parked R-1 938 in the ro0undhouse. We spent the next few hours working on the switcher and 1846.

Because of school and other activities, I didn’t see Al very often, and a few weeks later when I saw him in downtown Belvidere, he told me that because of the freezing incident, the railroad decided to change the way-freight schedules and no longer tied up the engines at Belvidere. So I had got in on the last day of an R-1 or a Z being at Belvidere. On occasion, when half joking about where I want to be buried when this life is over, I smile and say, “Scatter my ashes over the area where North Yard once was.”

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:53 AM

courtesy: www.trainweb.org

We open at 6 AM. (All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


SATURDAYs INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


The weekend! - Join us for breakfast – select a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from the Menu Board. Some pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery, and of course a large mug of steaming hot, freshly ground and brewed coffee![tup]



Daily Wisdom


You’ll sure get out-pointed if you pick a fight with a porcupine.



Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear –
The Burlington Zephyrs arrives Tuesday!


* Weekly Calendar:


TODAY: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
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MVP Award Winners


April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars



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Comedy Corner

Wisdom from Grandpa!


Whether a man winds up with a nest egg, or a goose egg, depends a lot on the kind of chick he marries.

Trouble in marriage often starts when a man gets so busy earnin' his salt that he forgets his sugar.

Too many couples marry for better, or for worse, but not for good.

When a man marries a woman, they become one; but the trouble starts when they try to decide which one.

If a man has enough horse sense to treat his wife like a thoroughbred, she will never turn into an old nag.

On anniversaries, the wise husband always forgets the past - but never the present.

A foolish husband says to his wife, "Honey, you stick to the washin', ironin', cookin' and scrubbin'. No wife of mine is gonna work."

Many girls like to marry a military man - he can cook, sew, and make beds and is in good health, and he's already used to taking orders.

Eventually you will reach a point when you stop lying about your age and start bragging about it.

Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know "why" I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved.

How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?

You know you are getting old, when everything either dries up or leaks.

Old age is when former classmates are so gray and wrinkled and bald, they don't recognize you.


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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) EricX2000 Eric Posted: 05 May 2006, 01:10:12 (322) 1st Post – 1st Visit!

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 May 2006, 05:37:13 (322) Friday’s Info & Summary

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 May 2006, 05:39:47 (322) For EricX2000

(4) barndad Doug Posted: 05 May 2006, 05:53:19 (323) Behind the curve, joke & cartoon!

(5) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 05 May 2006, 06:31:46 (323) Bear talk!

(6) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 05 May 2006, 08:42:39 (323) WVA Report & Recap!

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 May 2006, 10:48:20 (323) Acknowledgments & Comments

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 May 2006, 11:12:05 (323) Nostalgia #86 – Ad: PRR (1951)

(9) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 May 2006, 11:37:47 (323) Count Robulla’s Report!

(10) BudKarr BK Posted: 05 May 2006, 12:45:57 (323) BK’s adieu [?]

(11) pwolfe Pete Posted: 05 May 2005, 13:54:11 (323) Report from the Wolf Den!

(12) LoveDomes
Posted: 05 May 2006, 15:07:11 (323) Lars Report!

(13) passengerfan Al Posted: 05 May 2006, 16:39:23 (323) PRR Streamlined dome cars

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 May 2006, 19:33:56 (323) Acknowledgments, Comments & Pix

(15) wanswheel Mike Posted: 05 May 2006, 19:37:29 (323) URLs

(16) barndad Doug Posted: 05 May 2006, 21:08:24 [tup] (323) Catch up, Growing up around Steam Locos, Cartoon!

(17) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 May 2006, 22:43:41 (323) Nite time inclusive post!

(18) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 May 2006, 23:02:10 (323) Classic Diesels #21 – RR repowering




That’s it! [tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, May 6, 2006 8:02 AM
ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG
first Posted on page 110

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Canadian National Railways (passenger operations)



Headquarters: Montreal, Quebec

Mileage as of 1955: 24,220

Locomotives as of 1963:

Steam: 0
Diesel: 2,125
Electric: 27

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars– 105,177 Passenger cars: 2,808

Principal routes in 1955:

Halifax, NS-Montreal, QC (two routes)
Halifax-Sydney, NS
St. John’s-Port aux Basques, NL (42” gauge)
Montreal-Portland, ME (via subsidiary Grand Trunk Railway in U.S.)
Montreal-New London, CT (via subsidiary Central Vermont in U.S.)
Quebec City-Montreal-Toronto-Windsor & Sarnia, ON-Detroit, MI & Chicago (via subsidiary GTW in U.S.)
Toronto-North Bay, ON
Toronto-Niagara Falls, ON
Quebec City-Winnipeg, MB
Montreal-Winnipeg
Winnipeg-Churchill, MB
Winnipeg-Duluth, MN (via subsidiary Duluth, Winnipeg & Pacific in U.S.)
Winnipeg-Vancouver, BC
Winnipeg-Regina, SK
Saskatoon, SK-Calgary, AB
Calgary-Edmonton, AB
Jasper, AB-Prince Rupert, BC

Passenger trains of note in 1955:

Super Continental (Montreal & Toronto-Vancouver)
Continental Limited (Montreal & Toronto-Vancouver)
Ocean Limited (Montreal-Halifax)
Scotian (Montreal-Halifax)
Caribou (St. John’s-Port aux Basques)
International Limited (Montreal-Toronto-Chicago)
Inter-City Limited (Montreal-Toronto-Detroit & Chicago)
Northland (Toronto-North Bay & Timmins & Kapuskasing, ON)
Maple Leaf (Toronto-Philadelphia & New York City)
Montrealer & Washingtonian (Montreal-New York City-Washington, DC)
Ambassador (Montreal-Boston)
Gull (Boston-Portland, ME-Saint John, NB-Halifax)

Of note:
Montreal & Toronto-Chicago route with GTW Detroit & Port Huron-Chicago.
Toronto-Philadelphia & New York route with Lehigh Valley, Niagara Falls, NY-New York City.
Montreal-New York City & Boston & Washington route with CV, B&M, NH and PRR.
Halifax-Boston route with CP, Maine Central and B&M.
Toronto-Timmins & Kapuskasing route with Ontario Northland Railway.

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
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Posted by Fergmiester on Saturday, May 6, 2006 8:25 AM
Good Morning All

Speaking of the Caribou it's another Large Day here in St John's!

And this is where the Caribou would arrive/depart. They turned it into a Railway Museum


www.railwaycoastalmuseum.ca
Great little spot and well worth the $5 admission. It has also allowed me to establish a pay skill for those working on the MESS.



I'll be taking applications next week, those interested may apply within. Please note policy regarding the purchasing of tools[:D]

Trolley Boy Rob: There is also a small section that talks about the Street cars that were operated in St John's, Which is good as I thought I was imagining I saw a piece of old track peeking through a pot hole on Water Street the other day.

Anyway That's it for me today

Later All

Fergie

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, May 6, 2006 9:37 AM
G'day!

"Chore day" around the Haus! Just took a "break" to see who has been "in" . . .

Ah, my friend Fergie from the "Coffee Shop" has made his monthly visit . . . always good to "hear" from our Canadian Coast Guard liaison! [tup] Interesting URL and info on the Newfie RR museum - current or previous visit[?] Oooooops, I forgot - "Fergie" is one of our "Hit 'n Run" providers of info ... given that he's not a "regular" nor a member of our "Order of the Stools" - he's not subject to being Tweeeted! [swg]

Some night Posts from Doug 'n Rob along with another early this morning from barndad pretty much rounds out the acknowledgments. [tup][tup] Oooooops (again) - URLMeister was "in" last evening as well! [tup]

Good readin' material Doug!, just have to find some time to get roundtuit! [swg]

Email received from Eric - suggest you guys drop him a Forum's message via Email - let's encourage his participation! [tup] Just scroll back to Page 322 - click on his cyber name and "off you go!"

Today is ENCORE! Saturday and my guess is that we will have very little activity. Why[?] Several guys are expected to be among the missing . . . .

Enjoy the day!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, May 6, 2006 9:44 AM
ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG & NOSTALGIA
first Posted on page 110

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from The Official Guide of the Railways – Aug 1956:



Missouri – Kansas – Texas Railroad (MKT – KATY Lines)


On hand reference material does not provide a detailed equipment listing, however there are some items of interest:

Headquarters: St. Louis, MO

Passenger trains of note: Katy Flyer – The Bluebonnet – Texas Special

Slogans: The KATY Railroad – Natural Route Southwest.

….. Only ONE COUPON is required for passage between any two points on MISSOURI – KANSAS – TEXAS LINES.

….. “Texas Special Route – Frisco – M-K-T Lines” from St. Louis to Dallas, Fort Worth, Wichita Falls, Waco, Temple, Austin, San Antonio, Houston and Intermediate points.

….. Specify Katy’s New Fast Service – 17 hours – Kansas City to Dallas - Fort Worth. Second Morning Delivery from Chicago Via C.B.&Q. – Kansas City – M.K.T.

Advertisements: Route ‘em Katy Southwest

….. On The Famous Streamlined Texas Special

Luxury sleeping car and coach accommodations, nationally famous diner meals please every taste, every budget. Friendly, attentive service in an atmosphere of restful comfort. Through sleeping cars to and from Chicago, New York, Washington and the Metropolitan East, via the St. Louis gateway.

Daily between St. Louis and San Antonio.

….. On The De Lux Texas Bluebonnet

Bedroom and Section accommodations available between Kansas City, Forth Worth, Dallas and San Antonio. Roomettes between Kansas City and Dallas; Diner-lounge car … traditionally superb Bluebonnet diner meals. Dallas and Fort Worth passengers particularly appreciate the “just right” overnight Bluebonnet schedule. You retire at your usual bedtime, arrive refreshed and rested

Short line between Kansas City and the principal cities of Texas (daily).

Famous Meals a feature of Katy Dining Car Service!

Breakfast .75 to $1.75

Luncheon $1.20 to $2.50

Dinner $1.20 to $5.50

Know Your Pullmans

All regularly assigned sleeping cars on Katy-Lines are numbered. Car 16, for example is invariably a 14 Roomette, 4 bedroom cars, operating on the Texas Special between St. Louis and Dallas. Reservations are made accordingly.

On these pages sleeping car numbers are featured for your guidance. It is a good idea to check your reservations to be sure your space has been properly assigned.

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:11 AM
G'day Kapitan Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!


Mets win in the 14th! [tup][tup][tup] It's been a looooooong time, but is it possible that WE can finally overtake those Braves for a Division Championship and hopefully the NL Pennant[?] I think so! [yeah]

Good to "see" you guys since my last visit - and as with Tom I'm in between "chores" myself. Just wanted to get this Encore! out - then get back to the grind . . .

Did get my e-mail off to Eric and hope he stops by. [tup]

I'll take a quick belt of JD on the rocks, though . . . .[swg]

QUOTE: Posted by LoveDomes Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 11:34:44
appeared first on page 248

All of the following are from the Alaska Railroad (www.akrr.com) web site with their permission.


The "Hurricane Turn" passenger service hugs the Susitna River just outside Talkeetna on a wintry day in early February. Mt. McKinley is pictured in the background.(from: www.akrr.com)




The 4004 or Spirit of Whittier moves gravel from the Matanuska-Susitna Valley towards Anchorage on a late September morning. (from: www.akrr.com)



Rounding the bend in the historic Loop District on the Coastal Classic. The Coastal Classic provides passenger service with daily summer service between Anchorage and the town of Seward. (from: www.akrr.com)



An SD70MAC, leads the Denali Star passenger train out of the Anchorage Historic Depot on a run to Fairbanks.(from: www.akrr.com)



Enjoy one and all. Makes you want to head right on up to the 49th State and board the train![tup]



Until the next time!

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, May 6, 2006 12:20 PM
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house.

Lars, that was a great fini***o a great game. David Wright, around here he's getting almost as famous as Wilbur and Orville.

I've heard from Eric, he intends to translate his website to English as time allows, but he's very busy at work. Said he had fun reading that awfully bad translation. I don't think he has a lot of spare time. Maybe if we keep talking about the X-2000 he'll be induced to post again. Eric was thoroughly involved with the test runs, as the engineer Sweden sent to teach the Amtrak crew all the ins and outs of making it go smoothly.

Kentucky Derby day. Shouldn't we have something about the L&N? Or the the C&O? A lot of trains went to Louisville. http://www.zeke.tzo.com/timecruncher/C&O22Dec68.jpg C&O

Tom, you didn't comment on my Penn Station urls or the 1935 PRR timetable. That's okay.
It'll keep for the 25th-century cyber archeologists who rake through all this stuff someday.
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Posted by West Coast S on Saturday, May 6, 2006 12:59 PM
Encore Saturday Tom and all present, been a busy week, seems a move to new domiciles is in my near future, most likely Arizona, the misses has the final decision as to exact location!! With any luck the Gov. will permit a transfer to a new post, senority rules!!!

Have a busy next week planned too. Tomorrow is Railroad Days In Fullerton, a civic event sponsored by BNSF/Amtrak and the city for the past several years featuring displayed equiptment including AT&SF 4-8-4 3751. From Railroad Days it's off to the Orange Empire Railway Museum, they have just completed a restoration of a PE Blimp and a LA City Lines Birney to as built condition and i've been invited along on a privite tour by a local S scale traction modeling group.


As to the featured fallen flag, can't elaborate too much on "Miss Katy"

Katy like most roads, dieselized with the bakers approach " a little of this and a little of that" economies soon dictated that some semblence be restored. Products of Alco orgin were first on the hit list. Katy undertook a massive repowering program in the early sixties to scads of FA-1's and 2's. Katy contracted EMD to perform the necessary modifications, installation of EMD 567C prime assemblies required new roof hatches almost a foot taller the a similar unmodified Alco product, some had the Alco trucks replaced with the Blomberg, thus indication a change to EMD traction motors as well, they emerged in Deramis Red, a solid somber scheme. Units so converted had a long and usefull life, it was not uncommon to encounter Deramis FA's leased to such operators as the ROCK and even the mighty Union Pacific.

The sucessfull Alco conversion program, paved the way for similar conversions with the Baldwin roster.

Well, gotta get back to the matters at hand, catch you all later.


Dave
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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, May 6, 2006 2:35 PM
G'day (again) Capt. Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

I'm on "break" . . . This time I'll take a tall, cool one - R&H if you please - and I've got time for a hero - just a 1 footer this time - same-ol, same-ol! [swg]

Looks like I'm the only one who's "into" the ENCORE! Saturday idea 'round the joint. Isn't the "idea" to provide "reruns" on Saturday, 'n save the original stuff for other days[?] Just wonderin' . . .

I didn't "click" through your URLs, either Mike -the first time - but have since. Good nostalgia there with the Pennsy "stuff" - good job! [tup]

Yeah- David Wright is "the man of the hour!" Made a nice catch also . . . Have the game on the radio, as I'm in 'n out today - much to do on my "list." <groan> As I type this, Mets are up by 3 . . . . [yeah]

IDave - if you move to Arizona, there'll probably be no need to change your moniker West Coast S - some believe that's where the west coast may be one day! [swg]

Here's an Encore from page 146 that Tom posted . . .

QUOTE: Posted by siberianmo Posted: 25 Oct 2005, 05:56:19

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Louisville & Nashville (L&N)

Headquarters: Louisville, KY

Mileage in 1950: 4,779

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 732

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 59,077
Passenger cars: 483

Principal lines in 1950:

Cincinnati-New Orleans via Louisville, Nashville, Lewisborg, TN & Birmingham
Nashville-St. Louis via Evansville, IN
Louisville-Evansville
Memphis Junction, KY (Bowling Green)-Memphis
Cincinnati-Atlanta via Knoxville, TN & Cartersville, GA
Flomaton, AL-Chattahoochie, FL
Anchorage-Hazard, KY via Lexington
Corbin-Baxter, KY
Lebanon Junction-Sinks, KY

Passenger trains of note:

Azalean (New York-New Orleans via Montgomery; joint with PRR, SR and Atlanta & West Point.
Crescent (New York-New Orleans via Montgomery; joint with PRR, SR and A&WP.
Dixie Flagler (Chicago-Miami via Evansville, Nashville & Atlanta)
Dixie Flyer (Chicago-Florida via Evansville, Nashville & Atlanta)
Dixieland (Chicago-Miami via Louisville, Nashville & Montgomery)
Flamingo (Cincinnati-Jacksonville via Corbin, KY)
Georgian (Chicago & St. Louis-Atlanta)
Gulf Wind (New Orleans-Jacksonville; joint with ACL)
Humming Bird (Chicago & St. Louis & Cincinnati-New Orleans & Memphis; joi8nt with Chicago & Eastern Illinois)
Pan-American (Cincinnati-Memphis & New Orleans)
Piedmont Limited (New York-New Orleans via Montgomery; joint with PRR, SR and A&WP)
Southland (Detroit-Florida via Louisville & Corbin)
South Wind (Chicago-Miami via Louisville, Nashville & Montgomery)



Until the next time!

Lars
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 6, 2006 3:02 PM
Good Saturday afternoon folks. Tom, I have "eyes" for that Black Angus Tenderloin w/mushrooms, onions and the "Our" Place world famous baked, stuffed Idao Potato, thanks. As will be evident from this post, I'm still locked in to Friday's posts. This T.G.I.F. turned into a O.G.I.M. (Oh Gadfrey it's Monday). "I can't get a break I tell ya...nobody'll gimme a break" (James Cagney, cinema, circa 1930's). Okay, working my way from most recent to earlier posts let me begin by saying: HELP!!! Seriously, right you are Tom, I will try sending our latest visitor Eric a word of encouragement after this cyber session.[tup] Additionally, I met and have invited a very interesting senior citizen to join the frey. Originally from the Buffalo, N.Y. area, this gentleman has wide experience in both prototypical railroading and HO modeling as well. I hope my efforts are sucessful. Oh, incidentally Pete and Nick, he is first generation born in America. His parents hail from the U.K., near London if memory serves. How is that for a worthy prospect?[^]

Nice to see Fergie again and a pleasant "blast from the past" from over yonder. What no "Newfee" jokes? Tom, the Canadian National Encore certainly had the "residual" effect of rekindling old friendships, no? Barndad Doug, "Growing up Around Steam...." was pure pleasure for me and many others as so many favorable post will attest to, thanks.[tup] X a google. I could never again do what you are now in the midst of accomplishing: another move. Will you be closer to your equestrian buddy along with your ovine friends? Any rate, best of luck on a clean, quick real estate transaction.

Rob, the repowering of the Alco Road Switchers raised a lot of interest among the more technically involved members and I can better understand how woefully ignorant I am on many aspects of "the real thing." It is all kind'a embarraskin' (Popeye, circa 20th century). Your very inculsive post made my eternal quest for "getting abreast" (no pun intended) with the "flow," a lot easier for moi, thanks.[tup] Wow, you "said it all" when you mentioned getting away from the Tampa scenario, just can't wait.[^] What was that you said? The Ice Hotel has melted? Gadfey Daniel, that was to be the highlight of the "Rendesvous" ...for Eskomos maybe. No thanks, I left my snow shovel back in OK wrapped in a big yellow bow for the neighbors.

Pete, I hope the weekend "run out" goes well. It is heartening to know that yet another Pensy GG-1 addict dwells amongst us. LOL I was fortunate to live a "stones throw" form the Pensy mainline (N.E. Corridor) while living in MD. At that time (1961 - 1981) just about all motive power was the venerable GG-1, some still wore pin stripes. I don't recall any surviving tuscan red livery though. However, I could be mistaken.

Al, yes the South Wind was another example of "how low can you go" in the pitiable decline of our nation's proudest tradition of Varnish. As mentioned before, I could view the transition on almost a daily basis, "not a pretty sight." Of course you know what will happen during your trip to the B-I-Law's, don't you? Momma will find something you need (doesn't matter what) in one of the suit cases..."see, I told you so." LOL

I probably have missed BK but I would like tp repeat my best wishes for a blissful wedding and a lifetime of mutual fullfilment. I can speak from experience that it wise to treat every day as if it were the last. All too soon, these days grow short, so hold onto them in peace.

Mike, your adherence to the URL concept is totally sensible and time saving both on the page and to parties who may not be particularly consumed by the subject to hand...smart! Also, anyone may go into as much, or as little depth as he may choose, absolutely effecient, hear, hear.[^] I've taken a lot away from those fine posts, thanks.

Lars, good point on the "follow ups" for prospective "regulars." The personal touch is always a "winnAH." Mets are lookin' great so far... the Rays are lookin' ...well grate.[V] Hopefully, our next Rendesvous will see you joining the crew where ever that may be.[tup] Sorry we will miss meeting you this time around.

Cm3, "old, rare and obscure" gets it every time, thanks.[^] If you ever trip over a fairly "obscure" line called the Midland Valley, maybe you could "send it home" for me? I remember the line as a way freight/switching operation during the 1950's in Tulsa, OK. I probably wouldn't have noticed but for the U.S.R.A. Mikado doing the chores. A rather ignominious fate for a once proud road engine (ex-Frisco iirc).

Well, Tom and fellow cohorts, I'm gaining but still a fur piece to go yet. It will happen, just wish I could say when.[V] Boris, will you please stop fiddling with that lanyard 'til I give you the cue? Okay, "cue!!" Gadrey, he tore the felt on the pool table![:(!] D--ned [alien]!!!!!



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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, May 6, 2006 4:58 PM
Tom can you mix a mint julip?

LOUISVILLE STATION model railroad
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/pauldowns/aaa

295 streamlined in 1940 for the L&N's segment of the South Wind. Painted Tuscan red, modified with conventional twin cylinders, a shroud, and an oversize tender that held 27½ tons of special high-grade coal and 20,000 gallons of water. Supposed to have run 490 miles non-stop. Sometimes arrived in Louisville with an empty tender, low steam pressure, and barely enough coal to make it to the roundhouse. http://www.koyote.com/users/whsulliv/eubank013med.jpg

HUMMINGBIRD first post-World War II streamlined passenger train, five coaches, a lounge, and a dining car. She was to travel light - no baggage, carrying families and businessmen between Cincinnati and New Orleans through the Birmingham and Nashville routes.
http://www.jordanart.com/humminoerthecumberland.html
http://www.oldalabamarails.org/historypics/ln_humbird_card.jpg postcard
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, May 6, 2006 5:24 PM
ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
first Posted on page 146

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #13

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Louisville and Nashville (L&N) from an advertisement in Classic American Trains


The NEW Crescent
A GRAND NEW TRAIN WITH A GRAND OLD NAME


In Daily Service between New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington and New York


Recommend and Sell the Year’s Finest Travel Package

STREAMLINED, STAINLESS STEEL CARS
The Crescent is new from end to end. It’s the last word in streamliners. all cars are constructed of stainless steel and offer latest comfort and safety features.

ALL-PRIVATE-ROOM SLEEPERS
A selection of five different type private rooms – new 3-bed master room with shower and individual radio, drawing room, bedroom en suite, bedroom, and roomette. Each offers private lavatory, clothes closet, ice water and individually controlled lighting, heating and air conditioning.

LOUNGE AND OBSERVATION CARS
The finest atmosphere is found in the mid-train club lounge and the luxurious observation car. Comfortable chairs, music and convenient game or writing tables offer a “club on wheels” for rest and relaxation.

NOTHING FINER IN DINERS
The Crescent diners serve Southern cooking at is best. Every service to make every meal a travel treat has been provided – even to telephone communication between sleeping cars and diners.

COACH SERVICE
De luxe coaches with individual reclining seats are operated between New Orleans and Atlanta with connecting service beyond.

LOUISVILLE AND NASHVILLE RAILROAD


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]


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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, May 6, 2006 7:29 PM
G’day Gents!


An interesting, yet rather uninspiring day here at the “Hit ‘n Miss Bar ‘n Grill.” Seems like these “special” days are drawing fewer ‘n fewer contributors. However, the quality of ALL the Posts remains “top shelf!” [tup][tup]

Some acknowledgments:

Lars You AND your Mets have “done good!” [tup][tup] The contributions to the ENCORE! Saturday “theme” are most appreciated! Good selections – even IF you used one of mine! [swg]

NY Mets are HOT and winning those 1 run games says a lot! [tup] Cardinals are “getting well” down in Florida! <grin>

Email received and responded to - thanx! [tup]


Mike Thanx for the info regarding your communications with Eric! [tup]

Regarding your URLs, same for me – can’t make comments unless they are “clicked” – and they weren’t. Have since checked ‘em out – and of course thoroughly enjoyed everything Pennsy! Nicely done! [tup][tup]

Never been one to follow the “hosses” – but the “Derby” IS a big deal of a race. L&N “stuff” right on the money! [tup]


Dave So are you going to be “Zona Man” and if so, when[?]

Thanx for the extrapolation on the “Katy” – but it really wasn’t a “theme” – that honor belongs to the ENCORE! Saturday idea – which really invites one and all to dig into the archives and provide a “reply” of something from the past. That’s the idea! [tup]

Enjoy your “railroadin’” [tup]


Ted Good readin’ from you today . . . appears as if you are “getting there.” [tup]

Appreciate the encouraging “news” regarding the possibility of a newcomer to the bar. At this point in the “cycle,” we’re just about runnin’ on empty – especially with the planned absences for this month and next.

We’ve been replacing pool table “felt” at least weekly since the Track Gangs discovered our back room. So, not to worry . . . [swg]


Thanx to all who bought rounds and fed quarters into Herr Wurlitzer! [tup]


REMINDER!
Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)!



Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 6, 2006 8:22 PM
I have some free time, so decided to spend it here catching the latest "gooder stuff." Tom, I'm still comatose from the great steak and potato extrvaganza. I'll imbibe with a short Crown and water, if you please. Well, it's been a fine Encore day with some familiar Roads and some I'm barely acquainted with. For some reason the folks in the southwestern States, e.g. Oklahoma and Texas had an affection for the old M.K. & T. I believe it was, in part, due to their friendly service and perhaps the unorthodox loco rosters and rolling stock. I'm not really sure. I do recall seeing several of Katy's passenger trains both in Kcity, MO and Tulsa, OK. Being an impressionable kid, I opted for Frisco and Santa Fe's sleek "state of the art" equipment. I was far too young to remember when Mom and Dad took my sister an me on the Katy to Pawnee, OK for a relative's funeral. The only vivid memory was the revolting smell of fresh silage at the Pawnee depot. I kept telling Mom that "it hurts my nose." The L & N is a stranger to me and more's the pity. My what a fresh idea for a Road's livery, very handsome indeed.

Thanks to Tom, Lars and Mike for the fine URL's, Fallen Flags and Nostalgia #13 respectively.[tup] By golly, that long haul L & N tender is a real battleship, isn't it? West Coast S, so the "S" connection paid off with an invite to a meet up at the Orange Empire Railway Museum, eh? How I envy you with the "one on one" encounter of the Pacific Electric "Blimp" car. They were a favorite of mine and Gadfrey were they huge? Any Angeleno motorist must have felt a little in awe of those giants trundling down the city's streets.[:O] Of course, I'm a little familiar with the Birneys, single and double truck "Safety Cars." The single truck version was anything but a 'Safety Car' with their jolting and jerking undulations snaking down the narrow neighborhood avenues. More than once, I ended up on my keaster as a little shaver still unable to reach the standee's straps. I recall, that I never saw a "dinky" negotiate a "grand union" inersection. I wonder if their wheelbase wasn't sufficient to negotiate the track layout? On the other hand, I really don't envy you a move to Tarantula country in the middle of the Mojave. Still, there is plenty of U.P., B.N.S.F., action visible for miles in all directions.[:D] Mike, the pix of the L & N Louisville Station is a marvel of fine "N" gauge scratch building. I have trouble with HO.[:I]

Today was a bonanza for rail viewing on the tube. I "timed" recorded Trains Unlimited (building the C. P. thru the Canadian Rockies), Trouble on the Rails (car/train collisions at poorly marked R.R. Xings), High Speed Trains (tracing the development of the Bullets, ICE, TLV, and magnetic levitation trains). The Travel Channel offered coverage of the "high end" excursion runs avilable in the States but it just isn't my thing.[tdn] Nothing against oppulence, don't misunderstand; I just need to be going someplace for a pragmatic reason. I trust someone will apprise me if I have made any grevious omissions. Until then, allow me to take my leave in a mannerly fashion. Oh yes, Lars good choice of the Alaskan Rwy. Encore. I could feel the cool zephyrs off Mt. McKinley and the Tundra amidst this 83 F. Fl. temps, thanks. Boris, see if we can get it right this time for my parting round, okay? BOING By the "eternal," Boris, its the bar today- -M.I.T. tomorrow.[swg] Happy rails all.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 7, 2006 6:34 AM
Good morning everyone! I decided not to kill my already ailing back by doing another all-night painting session, and then sleep on the couch out there. Yes Ted, our temporary home is just a few miles from our horse, but unless we get this place sold soon, we may be looking at selling the horse! In other news, our jerko downstairs neighbors have posted "for sale" literature in the downstairs vestibule, which is good and bad, as their unit is essentially the same as ours. Wouldn't you know that the jerkos chose to fire-up their stereo when we had an interested couple looking at our place yesterday? Is it Kosher to discuss a mob hit on a Sunday?


As for our "new" new home, here's a picture of good ol' lot 727 as of yesterday


Anyhow ... I dug-up a few pix I thought might interest ya'll, and here they are:

Deluth, Missabe & Iron Range class E-4 2-10-4 703 heads onto the turntable at Proctor, Minnesota, to be serviced for its next turn, which may see it taking loaded ore jimmies down the hill to the docks at Duluth, or taking empties back to the pits. The potent Texas began life in 1937 as Bessemer & Lake Erie 624 and came to the Missabe in 1951, bumped by early diesels. Philip A. Weibler


Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range’s “Three Deuces,” M-3 2-8-8-4 222, sits in strong sidelight while being serviced at Two Harbors, Minnesota, on a chilly evening in December 1959. The big Baldwin was built in 1941, but it wasn’t sold for scrap until 1962. Philip A. Weibler


Western Pacific’s Exposition Flyer threads through the magnificent Feather River Canyon two miles west of Pulga in the summer of 1948. An early streamlined Vista-Dome coach is the third car behind WP 4-8-2 179, a refugee from the Florida East Coast. The FEC was one of the few railroads to default on an Equipment Trust obligation, resulting is some handsome light Alco 4-8-2s being sold to the WP – the 179 had been FEC 414 – and to the Cotton Belt to satisfy the debt. Allen Krieg


Four different car types visit Macy Street Yard on February 2, 1950, headquarters of the Northern District about a mile east of L.A. Union Passenger Terminal. From left: No. 1236 was a “long Beach Twelve,” built by Pullman in 1921 for that route, somewhat less powerful then the San Bernardino cars. Behemoth No. 499 was a “Blimp Combo,” a combination passenger/express/baggage motor that cam in the large lot from SP’s interurban Electric after that Bay Area operation was abandoned in 1941. Private car No. 1299, the Commodore, operated in regular service only in the summer. At far right is one of the 1100 class Pasadena motors built in 1924 by Standard Steel Car. These were slower versions (600 volt only) of the 1200s, with double doors to accommodate near-town commuter lines. Fred Matthews


Chicago Transit Authority electric locomotives S-104 and S-105 on the Skokie Branch in April 1978. The locomotives were built in 1920 by Baldwin-Westinghouse for the Northwestern Elevated, a predecessor of the Chicago Rapid Transit, which eventually became the CTA. They were purchased to take over freight service on trackage once shared with the Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul Railroad. The two were unique in that they were built with narrow car bodies so they would clear elevated platforms while operating through stations not fitted with gauntlets necessary to clear freight cars. Each locomotive was equipped for multiple unit control and propulsion power pick up with over-running trolley shoes, reversible trolley pole, and a pantograph. Power on this portion of the line was being picked up from third rail by trolley shoes. The locomotives were taken out on this day on a last farewell trip before being sent to Toledo Edison in Ohio. Lou Gerard




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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 7, 2006 7:05 AM

Toronto: courtesy: www.viarail.ca

We open at 6 AM. (All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


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Railroads from Yesteryear – The Burlington Zephyrs
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Wednesday: Toy & Model Trains Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday


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April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars



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Comedy Corner


Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)


[:I] A men’s foursome is waiting at the tee while a ladies foursome is hitting
from the ladies' tee.The ladies are moving slowly. When finally the last lady steps up to hit the ball, she hacks it 10 feet; she goes over and hacks it another 10 feet, then another 10 feet....She looks up at the men who are watching and says apologetically. "I guess all those f***ing lessons I took this winter didn't help." One of the men immediately replied: "Well, you know...that's your problem. You should have taken golf lessons instead." [:I]


[:I] A young wife, her boorish husband and a young good looking sailor were shipwrecked on an island. One morning, the sailor climbed a tall coconut tree and yelled, "Stop making love down there!"
"What's the matter with you?" the husband said when the sailor climbed down.
'"We weren't making love."
"Sorry," said the sailor, "From up there it looked like you were." Every morning thereafter, the sailor scaled the same tree and yelled the same thing. Finally the husband decided to climb the tree and see for himself. With great difficulty, he made his way to the top. The husband says to himself, "By golly he's right! It DOES look like they're making love down there!" [:I]


[:I] A professor is sent to darkest Africa to live with a primitive tribe. He spends years with them, teaching them reading, writing, math, and science. One day the wife of the tribe's chief gives birth to a white child. The members of the tribe are shocked, and the chief pulls the professor aside and says, "Look here! You're the only white man we've ever seen and this woman gave birth to a white child. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened!"
The professor replied, "Chief, you're mistaken. What you have here is a natural occurrence.. what we in the civilized world call an albino! Look at that field over there. All of the sheep are white except for one black one. Nature does this on occasion."
The chief was silent for a moment, then said, "Tell you what. You don't say anything more about the sheep and I won't say anything more about the baby." [:I]


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre

NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, May 7th thru May 13th: City Slickers (1991) starring: Billy Crystal, Jack Palance & Bruno Kirby –and- Crocodile Dundee (1986) starring: Paul Hogan & Linda Kozlowski. SHORT: Horses’ Collars (1935).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) barndad Doug Posted: 06 May 2006, 06:38:21 (323) Catch-up, Growing up around Steam locos (final) & cartoon!

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 May 2006, 06:53:13 (323) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 May 2006, 08:02:16 (323) ENCORE! Fallen Flag: CNR (passenger ops)

(4) Fergmiester Fergie Posted: 06 May 2006, 08:25:32 (323) Quick stop! Newfie RR

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 May 2006, 09:37:37 (323) Acknowledgments, etc.

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 May 2006, 09:44:35 (324) ENCORE! Fallen Flag & Nostalgia: MKT

(7) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 06 May 2006, 10:11:17 (324) ENCORE! 4 Alaska Pix!

(8) wanswheel Mike Posted: 06 May 2006, 12:20:37 (324) Comments

(9) West Coast S Dave Posted: 06 May 2006, 12:59:30 (324) Comments

(10) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 06 May 2006, 14:35:32 (324) Comments & ENCORE!: L&N

(11) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 May 2006, 15:02:25 (324) Inclusive & Interesting Post!

(12) wanswheel Mike Posted: 06 May 2006, 16:58:27 (324) Louisville RR URLs

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 May 2006, 17:24:40 (324) ENCORE! Nostalgia Ad: L&N

(14) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 May 2006, 20:22:54 (324) Bearman’s Nite Cap!




That’s it! [tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 7, 2006 7:41 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

. . . Sunday, May 7th thru May 13th: City Slickers (1991) starring: Billy Crystal, Jack Palance & Bruno Kirby –and- Crocodile Dundee (1986) starring: Paul Hogan & Linda Kozlowski. SHORT: Horse’s Collars (1935).


City Slickers (1991)



QUOTE: Plot Summary: Mitch is a middle aged big-city radio ads salesman. He and his friends Ed and Phil are having mid-life crisis. They decide the best birthday gift is to go on a two week holiday in the wild west driving cattle from New Mexico to Colorado. There they meet cowboy Curly who not only teaches them how to become real cowboys, but also one or two other things about life in the open air of the west.

from: http://www.imdb.com



Crocodile Dundee (1986)



QUOTE: Plot Summary: New York reporter Sue travels to Australia to meet and interview Michael J Crocodile Dundee, a man who runs a safari business and has just survived an attacked by a crocodile. After spending a few days touring the safari park, Sue invites Mick to come back with her to visit New York. How would the clash of cultures and different life style affect the Aussie bushman? How do things turn out when Sue falls for his charms?/quote]
from: http://www.imdb.com



Three Stooges Short Subject: Horse’s Collars (1935)



Plot Summary: The Stooges are hired by the Detective Hadyn Zeke to go out
West and help his client, Nell Higginbottom regain the I.O.U. her father was tricked into signing. The boys get into several scrapes in the process, but fortunately Curly goes insane whenever he sees a mouse, and only a mouthful of cheese will settle him down... “Moe, Larry … the cheese!”




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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 7, 2006 9:13 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Our man, Nick “Has come to save the day!” once more with some “mighty” fine Pix that began two Sunday’s ago and ends today. . . . Nick will provide the explanations at a later time . . . [tup][tup][tup]


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Thanx, Nick! We look forward to your descriptions . . . . [tup][tup][tup]


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Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 7, 2006 11:09 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


G’day!

As many may recall, Monday, April 24th was the 51st Anniversary of the creation of perhaps one of North America’s finest streamliner passenger trains – “The Canadian” of the Canadian Pacific Railway.

A commemorative run was held on the Can-Am right of way for those wonderful trains. Here then is the third installment of 6 photos of 24 that began last Sunday. Enjoy! [tup]


(13) The Canadian southbound at Can-Am Gorge





(14) The Canadian crossing Can-Am Gorge




(15) CP Rail’s The Canadian southbound on the eastern slope




(16) CP Rail’s The Canadian motive power





(17) Three iterations of Park Cars on The Canadian




(18) CP Rail’s Kootenay Park car



The final installment of 6 arrives later today . . .



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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, May 7, 2006 12:55 PM
G’day Capt. Tom and fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!


Nice pix from you, as always – and some interesting one’s from Doug as well. Enjoyed that spread from Nick via you as well! [tup][tup][tup]


I must digress just a tad – Doug that situation of yours doesn’t appear to be getting any better regarding the neighbor downstairs. Not trying to be funny or intrusive either – but this guy is a punch in the mouth waiting to happen!

So, let me get this straight: he’s driving you and your family to have to find temporary “digs” and now is making it difficult for you to sell your condo by being his anal self. This all spells big trouble from where I come from. Seriously, I know you just can’t go down there and rap is running lights out, but you surely need to come up with a strategy that will keep this jerk in his cage. Wish I could help.


An “odd” kinda day for me – not interested in watching the game or even listening to it – at least not right now. Too many things bouncing around in my head . . .


I’ve come up with some Southern Pacific pix for the day. Too bad we seemed to have lost West Coast S when it comes to reviewing the pages and keeping up with things. It is more than obvious that he’s just not able to spend the time here as once B4. Pity, for he really does put out some great stuff . . . . There I go again! Well, at least no one “out there” can accuse me of “gilding the lilly!” <grin>



SP #9401 12 bedroom sleeper (from: LA River RR)




SP Sunset Ltd Baggage Crew Dorm (from:LA River RR)




SP #3100 Baggage Crew Dorm (from: LA River RR)




SP #10608 Automat Cafe (from: LA River RR)



Ok – that’s all for now. I may be back with more – no promises!


Until the next time!

Lars
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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, May 7, 2006 1:40 PM
Hiya Tom

Back again to add a few things to my last . . .

Those feature films over at the "Emporium" are worth the price of admission. We have 'em in our home film library. [tup] Anything with Billy Crystal in it is worht the price of admission - in my not-so-humble opinion. The Aussie character ain't bad either in the Crocodile flick. Nicely done, Tom!

Worthy of note is the late night visit by the "Bear" - Ted! Good to see ya and given the unpredictability of the guys we used to think of as predictable (!) your post filled a gap! [tup]

Kinda wondering "out loud" where is Rob[?] No "Encore day" and thus far, no pix. Most unusual for him.

Like that pix at the top of the "Summary" - Toronto always looks good to me, but especially so with a train included! [swg] What, no domes[?]<groan>

Your model railraod is a "keeper" by any measure I'm aware of. The thing I get a kick out of is the way you are able to fit in so many aspects of our bar banter into it. It began awhile back with that "special trip" you gave to Ted aboard the "Can-Am." Then of course there is the bar itself - a "real life bar" depicted in miniature on your pike and "inhabited" by those of us here in the Ether! Add to that the countless number of photo's of your Polar Express, S-Capades, subway cars, trainroom display cases and wall signs and Can-Am scenes. Now you've added yet another dimension - "commemorative runs!" All well done and all deserving of a five-[tup] Salute to you, Sir: [tup][tup][tup][tup][tup]

I hear that my Mets are down by 3 and your Cards are up by 7. See, I told you I wasn't interested! [swg]

Ok - enjoy the day guys!

Until the next time!

Lars


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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 7, 2006 3:26 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


”Our” Place was visited by another very interesting person – Eric Afeldt, who provided us with a great “snap shot” of Sweden’s X2000 visit to North America (Canada & USA) in 1992-93. Eric was extensively involved with the training of North American train crews in the operation of X2000 for the tour of Canadian & U.S. cities. Here then are but 7 of his fotos for our enjoyment:



X2000 Canada & USA (1992-93) - Chicago, IL
(with permission & foto credit: Eric Afeldt)




X2000 Canada & USA (1992-93) - Harrisburg, PA - historic PRR GG1 on right
(with permission & foto credit: Eric Afeldt)




X2000 Canada & USA (1992-93) - New York City - ICE of Germany on left
(with permission & foto credit: Eric Afeldt)




X2000 Canada & USA (1992-93) - Union Station St. Louis, MO I was there! Can you spot me[?] [swg])
(with permission & foto credit: Eric Afeldt)




X2000 Canada & USA (1992-93) - Vandenberg AFB, CA
(with permission & foto credit: Eric Afeldt)




X2000 Canada & USA (1992-93) - Toronto, ON
(with permission & foto credit: Eric Afeldt)




X2000 Canada & USA (1992-93) - Ottawa, ON
(with permission & foto credit: Eric Afeldt)



We look forward to repeat visits from Eric and perhaps one day, he’ll share his recollections of that X2000 tour with us! [tup][tup][tup]



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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, May 7, 2006 3:44 PM
Hi Tom and all.

Back from southern Mo. TOM is TEX's fame spreading as there seems to be a big influx of armadillos in that part of the state at the moment.

Some really great posts the last couple of days[tup][tup][tup].
With AL's South Wind and ROB's repowered diesels,MIKE's great links to Penn station,
the Louisville Model and GG1 as well as others.
Doug those two Shed Scenes really do give the atmosphere of a steam shed. The author was a lucky young man [yeah].

TED TWO great posts. I do hope you can get the other gentleman to join us it sounds as though he would fit in really well. there is rather a sad photo in the new issue of trains of a Metroliner passing a line of redundent GG1sat Edge Moor DEL in 1980[:(].

Goods days encores from TOM, FERGIE, MIKE, LARS ranging from Alaska to the L&N[tup].

GREAT start to photo day DOUG with steam, California Cars and CTA electrics.
I do hope you can get some peace from them **** neighbors soon.

NICK certainly got some good weather on his visit to the Vof R look forward to the descriptions.

Thanks TOM for posting Nick's pics and great to see some more of the CAN-AM Commemorative runs I like how the RDCs gets in the action in some shots. Good films on at the Emporium and Comedy Corner as well[tup].

LARS Great photos of the SP cars and good words in your posts too.[^].

Right I had better post some pics. These are from Alan. I am short of details for these AL has promised them when he gets back.





An industrial tank loco at ? In the background on the 2nd pic is a BR surburban DMU I believe a class 115( help Nick)


Another industrial, an 0-4-0 saddle tank which worked for the Central Electricity Generating Board at Castle Donnington power station south of Derby. the disels in the background are on the left a Peak class46 and a class 50 # 50007, this loco was the only one of its class to be painted in Brunswick Green to celebrate the GWR 150 celebrations in 1985.


An 0-6-2 tank loco which used to work the intensive commuter services into and out of London,s Great Eastern Railways Liverpool St. station.
PETE.

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