Set as my new wallpaper.
Meanwhile about 100 miles away.
Penny Trains Oh! I love that painting!
Oh! I love that painting!
Becky, I've done some furious research, and that painting's called "Midnight in Buffalo," and it was done by artist Larry Fisher.
I've checked several sources and the prints all seem to be sold out. The only thing I could find was a 550 piece puzzle from mr.train.com.
https://mrtrain.com/product/new-york-central-prr-midnight-in-buffalo
Someone's going to need a hell of a lot more patience than I've got to do a 550 piece puzzle! But the price seems to be right.
Wayne
Is there anything Mike can't find?
He's beyond "needle in a haystack," I think Mike could find a needle in a cornfield!
1947 sounds good Vince, but how'd you like to be on the platform in 1937 when these bad boys "...passed in the night?"
https://www.albanyinstitute.org/details/items/eastward-westward.html
Yeah I understand Penny.
What I would give for one night out on the platforms at Buffalo Central Terminal, say 1947-48 or so between 11pm and 4 am. What a show.
I was so close too.. geographically and time wise on the scale of things.
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
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Those were Centipedes at the beginning of the video. Still in 5 stripe paint scheme. Maybe shortly after being bumped off the Broadway but still fairly new. Did not know they went into Buffalo service.
Does anything match the complete fall of passenger service as Buffalo Central Terminal? From a nightly miracle of amazing amount of switching cars of numerous named trains to utter devastation and nothingness in short order. Perhaps the 'other end' of the CASO, Michigan Central Station in Detroit.
I still find it hard to believe.
Flintlock/Wayne-- Well it's a Mine of some sort. Perhaps Zinc. I went with the photo caption yet again. Perhaps it was an Anthracite distrubuter/dealer but it has the characteristics of a Mine.
Glad the Ellenville station remains.. it looks like it's well kept, but it has lost all its charm as a railroad station. That red door and red star makes me think it's a base for Chinese hackers!
Old pictures in and around the town of Ellenville sure make it look like a very charming and desirable place to live.
Buffalo Central was supposed to be "Union Station" for Buffalo, but in the end only PRR was a tenant. Day and night trains to Harrisburg with through cars to Philadelphia and Washington, with advertised connections at Buffalo to MC-TH&B-CP trains to Toronto. Also local service to Oil City PA. By 1948 there was a discharge-only platform at Lord St. close to downtown, but no other Buffalo stations.
Well, it's truly a wasted day if you don't learn something new!
When I saw the painting of that K4 at Buffalo Union Terminal I thought "No way! Absolutely not! That's New York Central territory! The NYC probably had artillery postitioned around the Terminal with special 'anti-Pennsy' shells loaded! That painting's got to be an example of artistic license!"
And then Mr. Jones posted the video! Well, what do you know? They DID go there! I guess rivalry is one thing, but "Business is business!"
Anyone notice that Baldwin "Babyface" at the beginning of the video?
Love that painting of the Soo line local in the snow-covered landscape! Perfect Christmas card stuff!
And did you notive that funky ol' Camelback at the O&W station?
By the way, that Ellenville station is still standing, though heavily remodeled.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7652577@N05/31612135350
Not to nit-pick, but if that ramshackle old building is in Ellenville it can't be an old coal mine. The O&W's coal came from the Scranton area. It might be an old coal retailers facility where the coal was sold to local customers.
No coal mining in Ulster County NY, but there WAS mineral mining, and I'm sure Vince will find this interesting.
https://thediggings.com/usa/new-york/ulster-ny111/mines
So maybe that old building is from a mine after all?
Miningman 1). Buffalo's Central Terminal on a moonlit night. It is an artists rendition. On the far left is a Pennsy K4. Is this right? Did PRR use this station? On the far right is what I suppose is a PA, but it looks a bit too pointy.
1). Buffalo's Central Terminal on a moonlit night. It is an artists rendition. On the far left is a Pennsy K4. Is this right? Did PRR use this station? On the far right is what I suppose is a PA, but it looks a bit too pointy.
Always love to see those Art Deco skyscrapers lit up the building from the setback. PRR had trains used the Station, one of them is recorded in this video:
According to this file, some PRR trains ran between Buffalo and other major cities, but I am not sure if all of them stoped in the Buffalo Terminal:
http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/Hagley/PRR%20NAMED%20TRAINS.pdf
Baltimore Day Express, Buffalo Day Express, Northern Express, Pittsburgh Night Express, Southern Express, etc., : )
Miningman 3) Ok no more paintings. How about a nifty action shot broadsides of a Pennsy Q2. Short lived magnificient machines.
3) Ok no more paintings. How about a nifty action shot broadsides of a Pennsy Q2. Short lived magnificient machines.
And they were entirely built by PRR's Altoona shops, all by PRR! The concent of Duplex came from Baldwin but these magnificent steam engines had nothing to do with Baldwin.
MiningmanAlso fast forward to today and an old long ago closed Anthracite mine that apparently is still standing in Ellenville.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYbrlG4BAU
Jones 3D Modeling Club https://www.youtube.com/Jones3DModelingClub
2) Another artist rendition. I just like it. It's the opposite of all those glitzy streamliners. Soo Line with a local run somewhere out there on the prairie. I can well remember trains like this... the CPR ran many that were almost a carbon copy of this scene and with their control of the Soo Line you can see the influence. They were all gone by 1959. The CNR train I took to Port Dover with my grandma each summer was just like this but it would be green cars and a Mogul up front.
4) We have been discussing the NYO&W recently so here's a pic postcard of their station in Ellenville along the beautiful rustic and rural lines.
Also fast forward to today and an old long ago closed Anthracite mine that apparently is still standing in Ellenville.
Penny Trains Believe it or not, I used to drive one every day! I think my instruction went something like "you pull this lever and it goes down, you push it up and it goes up and if the back wheels come off the ground the load is too heavy! That was the way it was at the home improvement store I worked at in the 90's. By the way, probably the most unusual railroad item I have in my collection is a pallet branded for DB.
Believe it or not, I used to drive one every day! I think my instruction went something like "you pull this lever and it goes down, you push it up and it goes up and if the back wheels come off the ground the load is too heavy! That was the way it was at the home improvement store I worked at in the 90's.
By the way, probably the most unusual railroad item I have in my collection is a pallet branded for DB.
Johnny
Penny Trains Believe it or not, I used to drive one every day! I think my instruction went something like "you pull this lever and it goes down, you push it up and it goes up and if the back wheels come off the ground the load is too heavy! That was the way it was at the home improvement store I worked at in the 90's.
This comes to mind. "Pull the lever Becky!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_L5Z5z5w4s
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
rcdrye Miningman Now then, the above certainly looks like a terribly inefficient way to ice a reefer... There are 4 hatches after all on 2 sides! This could take some time but I'm sure someone will explain what a good idea this really is. Not too bad if you don't have space for an ice dock. The ice box goes on the forklift tongs (so you can use the forklift to load other things), something that would give a modern safety engineer the heeby-jeebies...
Miningman Now then, the above certainly looks like a terribly inefficient way to ice a reefer... There are 4 hatches after all on 2 sides! This could take some time but I'm sure someone will explain what a good idea this really is.
Not too bad if you don't have space for an ice dock. The ice box goes on the forklift tongs (so you can use the forklift to load other things), something that would give a modern safety engineer the heeby-jeebies...
When I was working, I had many occasions to operate a forklift--and my company required that all lift operators have certified instruction in the use of such. Once, I made use of newbies in their introductory class to move pallets of empty drums about (unstack and restack) as I was preparing them to be returned to the vendor for reuse.
A lot of the early steam tractors functioned as portable power plants. Able to move out into the field or bush and then run other machinery, while burning the byproducts of whatever process they were running.
We have a steam engine and old tractor association nearby. Those steam tractors ran on a variety of fuels includung corn cobs. They also have a 0-4-0 and a loop of track, and stationary steam engines.
Miningman Can't let 24 hours go by with not a single peep on Classic so here's a couple of interesting pics for sure. Now then, the above certainly looks like a terribly inefficient way to ice a reefer... There are 4 hatches after all on 2 sides! This could take some time but I'm sure someone will explain what a good idea this really is. Here is something you will never ever witness again. Steam tractors, from the factory, being unloaded from a flat car spotted on a siding at the station. Must have been a day of excitement and anticipation.
Can't let 24 hours go by with not a single peep on Classic so here's a couple of interesting pics for sure.
Now then, the above certainly looks like a terribly inefficient way to ice a reefer... There are 4 hatches after all on 2 sides! This could take some time but I'm sure someone will explain what a good idea this really is.
Here is something you will never ever witness again. Steam tractors, from the factory, being unloaded from a flat car spotted on a siding at the station. Must have been a day of excitement and anticipation.
Any of you folks ever see steam tractors in operation? Oh-so-cool! Really, they're miniature steam locomotives that don't need tracks, and the care and feeding of a steam tractor is exactly the same as for a steam locomotive.
I'd just love to have one to ride around the block in!
Also, some of what look like steam tractors weren't tractors at all, but portable steam engines that were pulled by horses to wherever the work was.
Deggesty Wayne, does still a good bit of the fresh food still come from the Garden State? For the benefit of those who are not up on their cannonology, the "32 pounder" refers to the weight of the ball. The cannon itself weighs a good bit more.
Wayne, does still a good bit of the fresh food still come from the Garden State?
For the benefit of those who are not up on their cannonology, the "32 pounder" refers to the weight of the ball. The cannon itself weighs a good bit more.
Quite a bit does Johnny, but New Jersey isn't the agricultural powerhouse it was decades ago. A lot of farms have disappeared under developments. Can't blame them really, if I was "Farmer Jones" and a developer came along and offered me several millions for the "ol' spread" I'd have a hard time saying no myself.
Oh, that 32 pounder? With a standard eight pound powder charge and a five degree elevation on the tube the range would be 1.1 miles. No problem shooting over the Hudson and "waking up" Manhattan!
Well, at least that 1936 map gives New Jersey slightly better representation.
I won't load up that 32 pounder. This time.
Of course, a great deal of the cleverness goes out of Steinberg's cover when you know where it came from (Chicago Tribune, 1922)
Much more amusing (to this native New Yorker, at least) was the 1936 guide from Columbia Press with the slightly more complete map of the United States according to we:
Overmod Flintlock76 Ever see that "New Yorker" magazine cover (made into a famous poster) ... Well, how about this?
Flintlock76 Ever see that "New Yorker" magazine cover (made into a famous poster)
...
Well, how about this?
That's cool, I don't mind a city from Flyover Country crowing a bit, especially considering all the great cheese and beer that comes out of Milwaukee!
Holy ground as well, considering David. P. Morgan used to work there!
The Milwaukee Road is my #1 pick for the 'All American Railroad' so I agree entirely with the depiction.
Last time I was there I purchased a purple suede SHIRT! It was the heaviest shirt I ever owned and you could not wear it on a hot day, but let me tell ya, I looked smashing. Very special occasions only! Made in Milwaukee.
Flintlock76Ever see that "New Yorker" magazine cover (made into a famous poster)
And people say global warming leading to a rise in sea level's a bad thing...
Why bother. It won't be too much longer.
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