Very strange things

[SD70Dude]

1)  EX-TER-MIN-ATE !!!!!!!

2)  Good thing there is no laundry drying on those balconies.

3)  I wonder what its wheel arrangement is?

[Miningman]

1) I'm not sure I would go near this... that's a whole lot of boiler for a tiny ROL --- Rest of Locomotive 

2) Another European pedestrian puzzler... out of a tunnel smack into the business district... be careful when you stumble out of a bar.. hope they have a flagman ahead! 

3) A Pennsy Bomber.. does the Central know about this?

 

 

 

[Overmod]

M636C

I'm sure you will get $4.78 worth of reading from even a somewhat degraded copy of the book. I've never seen a paperback version of that book but I have paperback copies of other contemporary Ian Allan titles and they are fine. I have replaced a couple with second hand hardbacks which will last better.

As it turns out, what I received today (for my $4.78 plus almost nominal shipping) is the hardbound reprint of the book, still in its dust jacket, that was produced by the Promotional Reprint Company in 1995.  This appears to have Bonanza-Book-like offset-printing issues with the black-and-white plates, but the line drawings are very clear.  Does the original also have plates ("Figs") 70 and 71 reversed?

[Flintlock76]

gmpullman

 

 

Miningman

 

I like that Wayne! Perhaps it is the shuttle to the Toblerone factory.

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I'm thinking now that this is a faked picture, some kind of photoshop distortion thing. 

 

 

 

 

You might just be on to something there — M.M.

Toblerone by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

 

Well done Ed, Lady F loves  the "Toblerone Express!"

Maybe you should shoot a copy to Lionel, MTH, or possibly Marklin.  Might give them some ideas!

[Overmod]

M636C

I think the original photo was of a conventional Japanese interurban electric train of the usual profile with an arch roof. I think the red was the original colour.

I didn't want to spoil the fun.  From a newsgroup in the UK:

The train is a former Kinki Nippon Railway – “Kintetsu” – KuMo270 series EMU. It was built in 1977 by Kinki Sharyo for the 2’6”/762mm gauge Hokusei line from Nishi-Kuwana to Ageki, near Nagoya. This line had been set to close, but was instead taken over by the Sangi Railway.’

[M636C]

gmpullman

 

 

Miningman

 

I like that Wayne! Perhaps it is the shuttle to the Toblerone factory.

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I'm thinking now that this is a faked picture, some kind of photoshop distortion thing. 

 

 

 

 

You might just be on to something there — M.M.

Toblerone by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

 

I think the original photo was of a conventional Japanese interurban electric train of the usual profile with an arch roof. I think the red was the original colour. The original looked OK but the Toblerone version is better.

Peter

[gmpullman]

Miningman

 

I like that Wayne! Perhaps it is the shuttle to the Toblerone factory.

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I'm thinking now that this is a faked picture, some kind of photoshop distortion thing. 

 

You might just be on to something there — M.M.

Toblerone by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

[Miningman]

I'm thinking now that this is a faked picture, some kind of photoshop distortion thing. 

[Flintlock76]

Can't take credit for that one Vince, that was Lady Firestorm's reaction when I showed her the picture!  I wish I did  think of it.

I hope someone  out there knows what that thing is!  Maybe Mike, he knows everything, or at least where to find everything!

Wayne  

[Miningman]

I like that Wayne! Perhaps it is the shuttle to the Toblerone factory.

[Flintlock76]

So what is  that thing in Picture One that looks like a "Toblerone" box on wheels?

Anyone know?

[Miningman]

Great information, truly appreciated. 

[gmpullman]

Similar:

rollover-1 by Edmund, on Flickr

 

http://tsb-bst.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/rail/2005/r05h0013/r05h0013.html

Double-shelf couplers

In this occurrence, the double-shelf couplers functioned as designed: all but one car remained coupled together and no tank heads were punctured. Double-shelf couplers have been effective in preventing tank head punctures. However, they may also increase the number of cars derailed, particularly when empty tank cars are involved. Since these couplers remain interlocked, they are capable of transferring high torsional forces; therefore, one overturning car can initiate the roll over of adjacent cars, increasing the severity of derailments. While this sympathetic roll-over phenomenon has occurred in both loaded and empty tank cars, it was observed that loaded cars were less likely to be affected. The weight of the loaded cars acts as a stabilizing force to counteract the torsional force transmitted through the double-shelf coupler.

_{"Emphasis mine"}

 

This one, in Clara City, Minnesota in October, 2007, was fairly "tidy" :

clara-city-2007 by Edmund, on Flickr

 

Good Luck, Ed

[BaltACD]

Overmod

 

Flintlock76

Picture Three: A Norfolk-Southern yard in 1994 after Lady Firestorm found out they cancelled the steam program and took away her "Mighty 611!" 

That can't be right; there's no evidence of ignition.

A blow over!

[Flintlock76]

Overmod

 

 

Flintlock76

Picture Three: A Norfolk-Southern yard in 1994 after Lady Firestorm found out they cancelled the steam program and took away her "Mighty 611!"

 

 

That can't be right; there's no evidence of ignition.

 

Those tank cars were empty.  

[Overmod]

Flintlock76

Picture Three: A Norfolk-Southern yard in 1994 after Lady Firestorm found out they cancelled the steam program and took away her "Mighty 611!"

That can't be right; there's no evidence of ignition.

[Flintlock76]

Hmmmm...

Picture One:  A way to economize on tunnel excavations?

Picture Two:  I hope that's what's left of a gravity railway!

Picture Three:  A Norfolk-Southern yard in 1994 after Lady Firestorm found out they cancelled the steam program and took away her "Mighty 611!"  

[Miningman]

1) Why? Is this a train for coneheads? 

2) it's your turn to be the fireman.

3) what in tarnation is going on here? 

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[Jones1945]

Thank you, Peter.  Through the link, there are some nice articles about artists who are really good at cutaway drawing as well.

[M636C]

Following the earlier discussion of cutaway drawings, as well as the Napier Sabre displayed by Overmod, Napier produced another complex aero engine...

The Napier Nomad:

https://www.google.com/search?q=napier+nomad+cutaway&rlz=1C1QJDA_enAU766AU821&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=lRf2JSxMB35JAM%253A%252CeAkHS2D6oey_VM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQqlcHXnhM6vcB2QtX0kf-pJFMS1g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjLlqeckNfiAhVh4HMBHS0CC0EQ9QEwAHoECAAQBA#imgrc=d1raW04CJoDEgM:&vet=1

The link provides a number of diagrams.

This was a diesel turbo-compound. Basically a gas turbine using a flat twelve cylinder diesel as the combustion chamber. There was a significant jet thrust, so this was possibly not suitable as a railcar engine.

This and many other engines are included in a book, I think "British Internal Combustion Aero Engines" (i'll give full details on my return home). The book was apparently written while the author wasrecovering from an operation in hospital (a fairly lengthy process if the book is anything to go by...).

Peter

[Miningman]

Well actually that Fageol CargoLiner makes sense. Does UPS know about this? 

[Jones1945]

rcdrye

I got a chance to climb the stairs into the cab on the Peter Pan Futureliner a number of years ago at the Big E (That's the Eastern States Exposition for you non-New Englanders).  The cab is barely big enough to allow a person to get into the driver's seat.

I can imagine the heat inside that tiny cab, and the front axle suspension of the Futureliner is a pair of heavy-duty leaf springs! Oh My...... 

Overmod

As an amusing aside on the dual-front-wheel Futurliner, here is a different truck of the future:

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=138179

There's even a design patent for it.

Note that this exactly mirrors the action of a trailer nose pivoting on a single-screw tractor's fifth wheel... 

Thanks a lot, Overmod. What an eye-opening experience! What has been seen cannot be unseen. Fageol Twin-Coach designed some "interesting" looking buses as well. "It's a box, It's a truck, It's a tin can, It's a tractor, it can be everything...... it is the CargoLiner!"

[Overmod]

Jones1945

This one was very strange indeed...

There's a whole page of interesting carriers here:

https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/car-carriers-of-yesteryear/

The reason for the strange cab location will become clear when you look at a couple of the designs and read the accompanying text.  It allows one more car to ride without increasing the legal 'combination length'.

As an amusing aside on the dual-front-wheel Futurliner, here is a different truck of the future:

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=138179

There's even a design patent for it.

Note that this exactly mirrors the action of a trailer nose pivoting on a single-screw tractor's fifth wheel... 

[rcdrye]

I got a chance to climb the stairs into the cab on the Peter Pan Futureliner a number of years ago at the Big E (That's the Eastern States Exposition for you non-New Englanders).  The cab is barely big enough to allow a person to get into the driver's seat.

[Jones1945]

Overmod

That's only expensive because of its street-rod build expense.

The interesting thing to me about the Futurliners is that they're like rolling exhibit stages: the whole middle section opens to reveal an exhibit tableau.  (There is no internal structure in which to put floors and living accommodations to convert one into a motor home, which is why so many were cheaply available for so long)  It is surprising how far up the stairs go to get to the cab, and how small it is once you get there.  (It is also clear from the pictures, but only when you know to look for it, that these all had duals on the front wheels; you do not want to know the fun that poses for any practical road-going use of the things.)

 

I can imagine the ride quality...... as bouncy as the GM Aerotrain. 

[Overmod]

That's only expensive because of its street-rod build expense.

The interesting thing to me about the Futurliners is that they're like rolling exhibit stages: the whole middle section opens to reveal an exhibit tableau.  (There is no internal structure in which to put floors and living accommodations to convert one into a motor home, which is why so many were cheaply available for so long)  It is surprising how far up the stairs go to get to the cab, and how small it is once you get there.  (It is also clear from the pictures, but only when you know to look for it, that these all had duals on the front wheels; you do not want to know the fun that poses for any practical road-going use of the things.)

The Materials Handling Systems Clippers were interesting, in part, because of how they maintained a low 'door height' clearance with decks full of cars with high roof heights (to accommodate the hats in fashion in the late 1940s).  This walkaround will show you how the trick of stowing the lower deck was done:

 

[Jones1945]

Miningman

Jones-- Great stuff! Mesmerizing ...its amazing how much time and money and brains people have. Onward and upward. Thanks 

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#2 was a MHS "Clipper" trailer, this is another version with some 1948 Plymouth P15 Special Deluxe and 2-door coupe on it: 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/carhaul/5716059651/in/set-72157622643131295/

Preserved:

https://murfy.us/doku.php?id=photos:okc_street_rod_2013:car_hauler

This one was very strange indeed :

 

I love the GM Futureliner, the styling is timeless. I especially love those whitewall thick tyres!

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Train your car:

https://retours.eu/en/42-car-sleeper-expresses/

Take your fancy car to your travel destination... 

 

[Miningman]

Well thank you rcdrye! 

Mike adds this:

Check out the colour photos in the link... scroll down

https://cdn.loc.gov/master/pnp/habshaer/in/in0500/in0546/data/in0546data.pdf

[rcdrye]

1) That's one version of the GM Futureliner custom modified because there weren't enough part to build a whole one.  

https://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/01/gm-futurliner-worlds-most-expensive-car-hauler/

Peter Pan Bus Lines has restored one that gets in the parade each year at the Eastern States Exposition in Springfield MA.

http://www.futurliner.com/pan.htm

 

And when they were new...

 

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-heritage-archive/Featured_Innovations/1936_Parade_of_Progress.html

 

 

 

 

[Miningman]

Jones-- Great stuff! Mesmerizing ...its amazing how much time and money and brains people have. Onward and upward. Thanks 

M636C-- So your blown to bits before you hear the shot. Does Hollywood know about this? 

Some more strange things:

1) GM made these? Weird cyclops thing that hauls one vehicle. How do you even get into it ? Is that the door bottom right? I guess so? 

2) First Class Second Class?  I don't get it, strange looking car hauler. 

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