Lynchburg to Alexandria is easy. The Southern had a wide selecton of trains, including the all-Pullman Crescent, the Southerner, the Piedmont Limited, the Pelican, the Tennesian, and you had your choice of just about any Pullman accomodation you wanted. If the Southern and Norfoolk and Western had separate stations, then I would have had to use the Southern Station for all but the Pelican and the Tennesian which probably used the N&W station or both.
Lynchburg to Richmond is difficult, but I believe the Southern did have an Atlanta - Richmond through sleeper, which may have also run through Raloigh or Durham, and I think was taken off a mainline train at Goldsboro. NC. It would have been logical for it to be handled on the Crescent. In fact, I think I once rode it southbound from Richmond to Atlanta, in a drawing room on a standard 12 and 1 heavyweight sleeper. The branch-line train may have been a mixed. The Southern, as I remember, had its own small station in Richmond, with just a simple single platform, and my Richmond client drove his car right to the door of the Pullman.
The Norfolk and Western probably had a through sleeper via Petersberg and the ACL (not the Seabord). There was the trhough New York to Norfolk sleeper at the time via the PRR, RF&P, ACL (not the Seabord) and N&W via Petersurg, rode it, so a Cincinnati-Richmond or Cincinnati-Washington sleeper via Petersburg would have been perfectly logical. also.
The Norfolk and Western ran both the Pocahuntis and the Powatten Arrow and several local trains between Lynchburg and Petersburg.
passengerfan al-in-chgo Are we ready for a new question? - a.s. Si Al - in - Stockton
al-in-chgo Are we ready for a new question? - a.s.
Are we ready for a new question? - a.s.
Al - in - Stockton
OK. It's July of 1955 and you want to go by train from Lynchburg, VA, to Alexandria, then a week later from Lynchburg to Richmond, then a week after that from Lynchburg to Petersburg. Name the RR companies that will get you there without a change, the (approximate) name of the relevant passenger depots in Lynchburg, and any passenger train (name or no.) that can get you to those places.
Let's try it without research or looking in the O.G.R., at least for now.
allen
daveklepper But the La Junta - Denver trains were usually combined with D&RGW trains north of Pueblo, so they were not pure AT&SF.
But the La Junta - Denver trains were usually combined with D&RGW trains north of Pueblo, so they were not pure AT&SF.
al-in-chgo al-in-chgo West Coast Al, IIRC the Santa Fe streamliners all had to have "Chief" in the title. Since this is a new thread, can you comment on that? It seems like you ought to be the winner, but we should nail down the exact answers. Again IIRC there were eight of them; does that sound about right? - a.s. I thought there was a post that followed mine, at about 6:13 p.m. today, but I can't find it in CLASSIC TRAIN QUESTIONS. Here's what I know, with passengerfan's help: The Chief Super Chief San Francisco Chief Texas Chief Kansas City Chief (The Grand Canyon was not a "Chief," but it had a sleeper from the Super Chief that was hauled in the night almost to the brink of the Grand Canyon. The LAUS to San Diego runs were called "San Diegans," not "Chief" that I know of.) I'm coming up with only five of the alleged eight Chiefs. Passengerfan, are you ready to give the answer? I'm not going to win it, but I bet I'm not the only one who would like to have the answer(s). - al
al-in-chgo West Coast Al, IIRC the Santa Fe streamliners all had to have "Chief" in the title. Since this is a new thread, can you comment on that? It seems like you ought to be the winner, but we should nail down the exact answers. Again IIRC there were eight of them; does that sound about right? - a.s.
West Coast Al, IIRC the Santa Fe streamliners all had to have "Chief" in the title. Since this is a new thread, can you comment on that? It seems like you ought to be the winner, but we should nail down the exact answers. Again IIRC there were eight of them; does that sound about right? - a.s.
I thought there was a post that followed mine, at about 6:13 p.m. today, but I can't find it in CLASSIC TRAIN QUESTIONS.
Here's what I know, with passengerfan's help:
The Chief
Super Chief
San Francisco Chief
Texas Chief
Kansas City Chief
(The Grand Canyon was not a "Chief," but it had a sleeper from the Super Chief that was hauled in the night almost to the brink of the Grand Canyon. The LAUS to San Diego runs were called "San Diegans," not "Chief" that I know of.)
I'm coming up with only five of the alleged eight Chiefs.
Passengerfan, are you ready to give the answer? I'm not going to win it, but I bet I'm not the only one who would like to have the answer(s). - al
Grand Canyon
Tulsan
Cavern
El Pasoan
San Diegans
Chicagoan/Kansas Cityan
Golden Gates
and surprisingly there were several numbered trains that for all intents and purposes were streamlined as well most of these were found in Texas and connected with either the Texas Chiefs or connected with the San Francisco Chief at Clovis. In addition the connecting trains from La Junta to Denver were streamlined but they were all numbered trains.
I guess it is either Al - in - Chicago or Texas Zephyr's turn to ask a train question.
Heres the list of Santa Fe Streamliners.I'm just going to list the ones you guys missed.
Kansas City Chiefs - Kansas City/Chicago
Tulsan - Tulsa /Kansas City with through cars to and from the Kansas Cityan/Chicagoan to and from Chicago.
Cavern - Clovis/Carlsbad operated with M-160 or M-190 and Budd Coach Observation. On display at the museum in Dallas.
El Pasoan- Albuquerque- El Paso.
We are still trying to answer the Santa Fe Streamliner Question?
If no one else jumps in I will print the list this evening.
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