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Posted by Mikec6201 on Saturday, January 1, 2011 4:50 PM

Well I'll be darned :) Guess I learned something today. 

 

OK heres an easy question. Does anyone know the locomotive number, and where it now resides of the only existing Pacific style locomotive,from Norfolk and Western? Extra bonus points for the last year in which it ran.

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, January 1, 2011 2:57 PM

Happy New Year!

Excerpt from The Century Chronicle Devoted to the Capital City (1901)

The Ohio Central Lines.

The Sunday Creek R. R., built in 1879, Atlantic & Lake Erie, started prior to that time, and several other smaller interests, as well as the Toledo & Ohio Central and the Kanawha & Michigan are now known to the public as the Ohio Central Lines. The two latter with through passenger and freight connections under one management, maintain distinct organizations, but work in unison. The K. & M. was completed to Charleston in 1883, and the route finished by various consolidations, from Corning to Gauley, a distance of 163 miles ten years later. There is now 583 miles in the O. C. L. system and branch lines are being built up Smithers Creek and Boomers Branch for accommodation to the rapidly developing coal interests of that region, which at this time is one of the most important coal mining sections of West Virginia, producing a high grade of steam, domestic and gas coals.

Excerpt from The Railway Agent and Station Agent magazine (1892)

The Ohio Central Lines: Moulton Houk, general passenger agent of the Ohio Central Lines, comprising the Toledo & Ohio Central, Toledo, Columbus & Cincinnati and Kanawha & Michigan railways, writes to us: "Some doubt or misunderstanding as to how business should be routed via these lines seems to exist upon the part of many station agents. With the view to more clearly placing the matter before them I take the liberty of enclosing to you a circular issued by these lines affecting this matter." The circular is as follows:

To General Passenger and Ticket Agents: For purposes of advertising and ticket representation, these railways will hereafter be known as the "Ohio Central Lines." One coupon will be sufficient from any junctional point of these lines to any station upon the same, and connections are respectfully requested to prepare issues of tickets reading via Ohio Central Lines through the various junctional points to the following important stations, viz.: Athens, O.; Bowling Green, O.; Bucyrus, O-; Charleston, W. Va.; Columbus, O.; Findlay, O.; Fostoria, O.; Kenton, O.; Middleport, O.; Mt. Gilead, O.; New Lexington, O.; Pt. Pleasant, W. Va.; Toledo, O.

We shall at once reorganize our issues of coupon tickets, and any favors received will be liberally reciprocated. Kindly acknowledge receipt upon enclosed card, and advise me the representation that you will accord us upon this request. From and after January 1st, 1892, all reports of ticket sales from connections should be made to J. Landgraf, Jr., auditor T. & O. C. R'y, Toledo, O.

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Posted by narig01 on Saturday, January 1, 2011 12:54 PM

I regret this I am going to out of easy internet access for the next week. Mike could you or someone else post a question. My apoligies

I did remember the name Ohio Central had been reused. I'm at the house for a few and had a chance to look it up.    No Ohio Central was not an interurban.   The only interurban to use that name was 1:87 size.

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, January 1, 2011 11:29 AM

Mikec6201

narig01 has the correct answer.if he would like to ask the next question.

 

Johnny, I was not aware of a trunk line with the same name in the 1890's. Was this a steam road?

Mike, as well as I can tell, it was a steam road. There is no indication in its representation that it was electric. Its representation is actually of the Ohio Central Lines, with the components Toledo & Ohio Central Railway and Kanawha & Michigan Railway. Only one of the lines (Toledo and Kenton) is identified as to just which road it is (T&OC). It could be that the lines, Columbus and Charleston and Toledo and Thurston (junction with the C & C line) were both K&M. There was also a Malden and Charleston line.

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Posted by Mikec6201 on Saturday, January 1, 2011 11:04 AM

narig01 has the correct answer.if he would like to ask the next question.

 

Johnny, I was not aware of a trunk line with the same name in the 1890's. Was this a steam road?

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, December 31, 2010 9:44 PM

narig01

I remember reading somewhere their was an interurban named Ohio Central. Also the current name of a regional.

Rgds IGN

Back in 1893, the Ohio Central was a trunk line that ran from Toledo, Ohio, to Charleston, W. Va.; it became a part of the New York Central Lines--and it may have re-emerged as the Ohio Central.

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Friday, December 31, 2010 9:44 AM

Just wanted to wish everyone here a healthy, prosperous and

Happy New Year!

Here's to more interesting and engaging classic train questions in 2011!

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Posted by Mikec6201 on Monday, December 27, 2010 3:42 PM

 Sorry Dave, they did both run through Columbus, maybe I could have been clearer.

Yes IGN you are a winner Ohio Central it was.

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Posted by narig01 on Monday, December 27, 2010 6:50 AM

I remember reading somewhere their was an interurban named Ohio Central. Also the current name of a regional.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, December 27, 2010 3:27 AM

If the interurban ran through Coumbus but the regional does not, then there is the Ohio Valley which was an interurban that was absorbed into another system, and the regional Ohio Valley which operates in Indiana, not Ohio.  Is that what you are looking for?

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Posted by Mikec6201 on Sunday, December 26, 2010 2:28 PM

No sorry.

This interurban ran through Columbus 

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, December 26, 2010 4:21 AM

Cleveland, Southwestern, and Columbus, generally known as Southwestern?

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Posted by Mikec6201 on Friday, December 24, 2010 5:40 PM

Ok I'll give it a shot.  Name the interurban company that had the same name as one of todays regional railroads that runs through Columbus Ohio.

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Friday, December 24, 2010 10:54 AM

Mikec6201

I'll defer the honor to someone with  more knowledge here.  Just like to play along when I am able. Thank you

Go ahead and jump in and ask!  Your question may stump us all!  Big Smile

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Posted by Mikec6201 on Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:45 PM

I'll defer the honor to someone with  more knowledge here.  Just like to play along when I am able. Thank you

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Posted by KCSfan on Thursday, December 23, 2010 2:55 AM

Mikec6201

Cyclone seems to fit although I don't know if there was such a train.....Mike

You've nailed it Mike. The Cyclone was a Pennsy train running between Chicago and Cincinnati. It was inaugurated in 1884 but I have no idea how long it carried that name. The next question is yours.

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:44 PM

That leaves Hurricain, Tornado, Mother-in law, and WIfe.  Er, did I write that out loud?

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Posted by Mikec6201 on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 6:18 PM

Cyclone seems to fit although I don't know if there was such a train.....Mike

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 6:03 PM

henry6

Are you playing with the gods of the Zyphers?

Oh no Henry. The name of this train was much more powerful than a zephyr or a breeze or a wind.

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:35 PM

Are you playing with the gods of the Zyphers?

RIDEWITHMEHENRY is the name for our almost monthly day of riding trains and transit in either the NYCity or Philadelphia areas including all commuter lines, Amtrak, subways, light rail and trolleys, bus and ferries when warranted. No fees, just let us know you want to join the ride and pay your fares. Ask to be on our email list or find us on FB as RIDEWITHMEHENRY (all caps) to get descriptions of each outing.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:28 PM

KCSfan

Sorry, but no one has gotten the correct answer yet. Neither this train nor this question is a breeze.

Mark

 

How about a hint?  -  al

 

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:55 AM

Sorry, but no one has gotten the correct answer yet. Neither this train nor this question is a breeze.

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:00 AM

What about the Chinook CP Calgary Edmonton?

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:06 AM

There is also the East Wind, Washington, DC - Bar Harbor, Bangor, and Brunswick Maine, PRR, NYNH&H, B&M, MC.

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 2:55 AM

Sorry, but not the Gulf Wind. The train I have in mind ran at an earlier time and in a different part of the country.

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:33 PM

KCSfan

Here's my question. This train was a whirlwind but it was not the tornado. What was name of the train, its end point terminals and the railroad over which it ran.

Mark

Im going to guess the Gulf Wind  SAL/LN  New Orleans-Jacksonville

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Posted by KCSfan on Monday, December 20, 2010 12:27 PM

Here's my question. This train was a whirlwind but it was not the tornado. What was name of the train, its end point terminals and the railroad over which it ran.

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:57 AM

KCSfan

 

 ZephyrOverland:

 

Next Question:

This train named for a flower was a "Star" on one RR and a "Limited" on another.  Give the full train names, railroads and endpoints.

 

 

The Magnolia Star  - ICRR - Chicago and New Orleans

The Magnolia Limited - PRR/RF&P/ACL/FEC - New York and Florida (Miami/Tampa/St. Pete)

I think of the magnolia as more of a tree and have a large one in my yard but of course it has large white flowers so I think these may be the trains you have in mind.

Mark

Mark you got the trains.  I think though, that the Magnolia Limited was only a Washington-Jacksonville train.  In the 1929-1930 season, the southbound train carried a number of through cars from various eastern and midwestern points such as Buffalo and Cleveland.  The through cars were carried from Washington and the cars operated northbound to Washington only.  (An example of the Pullman national pool car concept at work.)  The train carried cars from north of Washington and south of Jacksonville via connecting trains.

Mark, you have the next question.

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Posted by KCSfan on Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:41 AM

ZephyrOverland

Next Question:

This train named for a flower was a "Star" on one RR and a "Limited" on another.  Give the full train names, railroads and endpoints.

The Magnolia Star  - ICRR - Chicago and New Orleans

The Magnolia Limited - PRR/RF&P/ACL/FEC - New York and Florida (Miami/Tampa/St. Pete)

I think of the magnolia as more of a tree and have a large one in my yard but of course it has large white flowers so I think these may be the trains you have in mind.

Mark

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Friday, December 17, 2010 3:44 PM

Next Question:

This train named for a flower was a "Star" on one RR and a "Limited" on another.  Give the full train names, railroads and endpoints.

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