The road was the Monon, and the song was "Up and down the Monon." If anyone wants to see the whole song, I will find the issue of Trains which reported that it was played at the Dearborn Street Station before the departure of a Monon train, copy the song out, and post it. I think it was more than two lines, but I may be wrong.
Johnny
daveklepper Still, Mark, if Wanswheel's answer is correct, even thought not the same as yours, should not he have the right to ask the next question? But his answer is correct only if the song was actually played over the PA in the station before train departure.
Still, Mark, if Wanswheel's answer is correct, even thought not the same as yours, should not he have the right to ask the next question? But his answer is correct only if the song was actually played over the PA in the station before train departure.
I have been in LaSalle St. Sta. a number of times in the 1940's and 50's to catch trains of both the RI and NYC and never once heard that song played. Additionally, it would be incorrect to think of it as a jingle unlike the catchy two liner which was played prior to the departure of all trains of the road I have in mind.
Mark
wanswheel Rock Island at LaSalle Street? The Great Rock-Island Route by J. A. Roff (1882) From a rocky bound Atlantic, to a mild Pacific shore, From a fair and sunny southland to an ice-bound Labrador, There's a name of magic import, and 'tis known the world throughout, 'Tis a mighty corporation, called the "Great Rock-Island Route." CHORUS. Now listen to the jingle, and the rumble and the roar, As she dashes thro' the woodland, and speeds along the shore, See the mighty rushing engine, hear her merry bell ring out, As they speed along in safety, on the "Great Rock-Island Route." All great cities of importance can be found along its way, There's Chicago and Peoria and Rock-Island so they say, With Davenport, and westward still is Council Bluffs far out, As a western termination of this "Great Rock-Island Route." To the great southwest another, and a mighty line they run, Reaching far-famed Kansas City, Leavenworth, and Atchison, Rich in beauty, power, and grandeur, and they owe it all no doubt, To the fact that they are stations, on the "Great Rock-Island Route." There's their "Northern-Route," a daisy as you all can plainly see, To St. Paul and Minneapolis, 'tis the famous "Albert Lea;" To the lakes of Minnesota, and all points there 'round about, Reached directly by no other than the "Great Rock-Island Route." Now let music soft and tender, in its mystic power reveal, Praises to the "Great Rock-Island," that the heart can only feel; And to swell the mighty chorus - comes the glad re-echoing shout, That for safety, time, and comfort, take the "Great Rock-Island Route."
Rock Island at LaSalle Street?
The Great Rock-Island Route
From a rocky bound Atlantic, to a mild Pacific shore, From a fair and sunny southland to an ice-bound Labrador, There's a name of magic import, and 'tis known the world throughout, 'Tis a mighty corporation, called the "Great Rock-Island Route."
CHORUS.
Now listen to the jingle, and the rumble and the roar,
As she dashes thro' the woodland, and speeds along the shore,
See the mighty rushing engine, hear her merry bell ring out,
As they speed along in safety, on the "Great Rock-Island Route."
All great cities of importance can be found along its way, There's Chicago and Peoria and Rock-Island so they say, With Davenport, and westward still is Council Bluffs far out, As a western termination of this "Great Rock-Island Route."
To the great southwest another, and a mighty line they run, Reaching far-famed Kansas City, Leavenworth, and Atchison, Rich in beauty, power, and grandeur, and they owe it all no doubt, To the fact that they are stations, on the "Great Rock-Island Route."
There's their "Northern-Route," a daisy as you all can plainly see, To St. Paul and Minneapolis, 'tis the famous "Albert Lea;" To the lakes of Minnesota, and all points there 'round about, Reached directly by no other than the "Great Rock-Island Route."
Now let music soft and tender, in its mystic power reveal, Praises to the "Great Rock-Island," that the heart can only feel; And to swell the mighty chorus - comes the glad re-echoing shout, That for safety, time, and comfort, take the "Great Rock-Island Route."
Good guess but not the Rock. I haven't heard it in years so many thanks for the words to that RI song.
Sorry, Dave, but the IC is the wrong road. Ypu're likely thinking of the song, The City of New Orleans, but that wasn't played prior to the departure of the train.
IC, Central Station, City of New Orleans?
Sorry, Buck, it wasn't the Santa Fe but you've got the city right. Whoever gets the RR right needs to also name which of Chicago's stations it operated out of.
Mark...you were correct...you did and I just forgot to catch that...thanks for jumping on....and....I'm going to take a fly at this:
ATSF
Dearborn (Chicago)
It's fun to ride the train today, when the train you ride is Santa Fe. Santa Fe...All the Way, Its' fun to ride the train.
Or...at least that's what Chico used to say during WDAF 10 o'clock news in Kansas City.
FlyingCrow However everybody came so close to saying PRR & FRISCO I was having a tough time deciding who is actually right. BUT, my time is up...so next question please.
However everybody came so close to saying PRR & FRISCO I was having a tough time deciding who is actually right. BUT, my time is up...so next question please.
Buck, if it;s ok with you I'll jump in with a new question since I got the Frisco right and was first to mention the Penn-Texas by name.
In the 1950's if you were waiting to board the trains of a certain railroad at one of its terminals you would have heard a musical jingle which was a slogan of that road played over the station's PA system. 1) What was the railroad? 2) At what station was this jingle played? 3) What were the words to the jingle?
daveklepper With head end stuff switched out before incoming platforming and added to outbounds after leaving the platform, obviously the PRR Penn Texas with its through cars to more than one connecting railroad was the chief offender. I would say the second was probably either the Central with its Texas connecting train, the Southwestern Limited? or the Wabash with its UP West Coast cars. I did ride the Penn Texas several times and it sure was a long train.
With head end stuff switched out before incoming platforming and added to outbounds after leaving the platform, obviously the PRR Penn Texas with its through cars to more than one connecting railroad was the chief offender. I would say the second was probably either the Central with its Texas connecting train, the Southwestern Limited? or the Wabash with its UP West Coast cars. I did ride the Penn Texas several times and it sure was a long train.
So we can move on and hand the floor over to daveklepper or zephyroverland, who got really close and picked the PRR and the Penn Texas as offender #1.
The recipients of all these passing cars were the MOP - of course, but mostly the FRISCO, whose #1 & 2 (The Texas Special) also carried passing sleepers not only from the Pennsy, but - the GM&O, the B&O, the NYC and the WABASH, all at different and sometimes overlapping time periods.
Therefore , the baby "straight"... #1 & 2 and #3 & 4.
...or you could just wait 'til tomorrow morning and let whoever wants to post a question first, do so. - al
FlyingCrow Well, I have one correct answer from one player and another from someone else. What to do.
Well, I have one correct answer from one player and another from someone else. What to do.
NOTE...the head end stuff was all switched off before the doubling over occurred. So, don't think about M&E portions of trains.
Here's another hint... the offenders and their offending trains are a four card straight !
FlyingCrow Well, everyone is getting close...somewhat..... truly PRR, NYC, GM&O, WAB, and B&O all CONTRIBUTED to the problem...(a hint)....at one time or another. Someone will probably get it now.
Well, everyone is getting close...somewhat..... truly PRR, NYC, GM&O, WAB, and B&O all CONTRIBUTED to the problem...(a hint)....at one time or another. Someone will probably get it now.
Buck,
If we're talking Pre-WW2 I just don't know, but post war I would have guessed the PRR's Penn-Texas to have been the longest train using the terminal. Given the roads you've ruled out already that leaves only the C&EI, NYC&StL, Southern, IC, L&N, Frisco and MKT. The few trains of the first three were all relatively short as were those if the IC (with the possible exception of the Chickasaw) so I think we can eliminate all of those roads. The single train of the MKT, the Katy Flyer, usually ran with no more than four passenger cars but it could have carried a large number of head end cars making it one of the longest to use the terminal - I just don't know. Anyway, by process of elimination I'll say the L&N and Frisco.
Southern Railway Systems did some odd ball things to make some extra money on their freight service.
GM&O (or its Alton predecessor) amd the NYC (Big Four)
That would be a good guess......but nope.....try again.
FlyingCrow The practice of "doubling over" or taking two tracks for a single train was the bane of the TRRA of St. Louis at St. Louis Union Station. With the number of trains and switching moves required to accommodate "passing cars" - when a train had to be doubled over the cost for locomotives and switching crews far exceeded the revenue the TRRA received. According to the TRRA's records.....what two railroads were the worst "offenders"?
The practice of "doubling over" or taking two tracks for a single train was the bane of the TRRA of St. Louis at St. Louis Union Station. With the number of trains and switching moves required to accommodate "passing cars" - when a train had to be doubled over the cost for locomotives and switching crews far exceeded the revenue the TRRA received.
According to the TRRA's records.....what two railroads were the worst "offenders"?
Im going to guess the MP and PRR
FlyingCrow So.....is it my turn again? If so , I'd like to check to others in the forum who haven't posted a question lately.
So.....is it my turn again? If so , I'd like to check to others in the forum who haven't posted a question lately.
Buck, you have the state and the cities. The Cracker was, of course a day train between Atlanta and Brunswick. The equipment also made possible overnight service between the two cities, carrying the Brunswick-Atlanta sleeper to and from its connection with the Kansas City-Florida Special at Jesup. I did not use the correct word when I wrote "protect," so I confused you. There was a time when the Royal Palm when through Jesup and the KC-Fla Special went through Valdosta one way; I forget whether it was northbound or southbound; the trip in the reverse direction was in what is thought of as the usual way.
Call me "Buck"....I have to change my forum signature to my "usual" name.
OK.... I had to remember all this from my years of service to the Southern Railway Historical Association.. uh...
the GOLDENROD, 15-16, ran from Birmingham, Selma and Mobile, The CRACKER ran from Atlanta, Maqcon and Brunswick, #19-20. The JOE WHEELER , 7-8, ran from Chattanooga to Tuscumbia and THE VULCAN 19-20 ran from Birmingham to Meridian.
So, the CRACKER was a Georgia train basically as a back up for the Kansas City Florida Special, SOU #7 & 8 (FRISCO 105-106). The other details ...hmmm......let's see:
THE JOE WHEELER protected the Tennessean
THE VULCAN protected The Southerner
THE GOLDENROD protected The Crescent
or...am I thinking about the Turkey and Honeybaked Ham today and not close?
Happy Thanksgiving everyone !
Deggesty FlyingCrow: Southern Railway System actually....... he must be referring to the "Crackers". Those FM doodlebug trains such as the Joe Wheeler and the Vulcan and Golden Rod. Am I getting close? Yes, you are getting close.
FlyingCrow: Southern Railway System actually....... he must be referring to the "Crackers". Those FM doodlebug trains such as the Joe Wheeler and the Vulcan and Golden Rod. Am I getting close?
Southern Railway System actually....... he must be referring to the "Crackers". Those FM doodlebug trains such as the Joe Wheeler and the Vulcan and Golden Rod.
Am I getting close?
Remember, close counts in horseshoes.
The fact that Charleston, SC is the historical birthplace of Southern Railway. That is where I am from. The Southern Railway was formed after the Civil War early 1880s. From the R & D which restored the damage lines that Sherman's troops destroyed. The records that the museums have state that Southern Railway had stocks in all of the lines that it help restore in the Carolinas and Georgia..
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