Good afetrnoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (with a splash as my voice is about gone); round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Interesting rail activity on GMA today as it looked as though they were on the old NKP. Fog and farmland - delightful.
Just a quick stop - done with one class and have another to do this evening - entirely different subject than the day one, so it'll help keep me going.
Eric - It should be 16 days now? The picture of the deer in the road looks similar to the country around here, but we have more trees. Incidentally that T41 is a fine looking locomotive; reminds me somewhat of an Alco product.
Pete - There is lots of C&O stuff still around if you know where to look. Enjoyed your photos, especially the stone bridge - would like to see more of that.
OSP was in with SOO items. That's one road I never got to ride in its opriginal incarnation. It looks as though the steam power is getting a little exercise as well.
Know what you mean about prices. Won't tell you what we had to pay for a custom-made storm door - joys of owning older houses - nothing is standard. Fortunately our contractors are used to dealing with that sort of thing. We have used the same people for years. They do good work, stand behnd their products, show up on time, are sober, and clean up after themselves. Scout likes them as well as they share their sandwiches with him at lunch (lol).
Well, I'd better get ready for the next round of activity. I'll be by tomorrow at usual time if the creeks don't rise and the truck don't burn up. Tell Juneau it'supposed to be in the 40s here tonight.
work safe
G'day Gents!
Pete's been "in," thereby saving this day from being a "wash" . . . good to see ya, Mate ‘n your fotos!
Since it is Wednesday - time again for our OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day at the Bar by the Ballast!
Steam Locomotives for the Can-Am Trainroom #4
Rule of Six Suspended <by one>!
Here are three more steamers that arrived earlier in the week to complete the order for ten.
(1) Boxes for the threesome
(2) Test run of the New Haven 4-6-4 "Hudson"
(3)
(4) Test run of the New York Central 2-6-2 "Prairie"
(5)
(6) Test run of the Pennsylvania 0-6-0 "USRA"
(7)
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Enjoy!
Tom
Hi Tom and all.
A mug of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH.
Called in early to drop some photos in as I see CM3 might not able to get in this morning.I see Tom as been in.
As promised some photos of Prince with a vintage train on the Ffestiniog Railway in North Wales..
Prince arrives at Minffordd station.
Minffordd was where the Cambrian/Great Western/BR had a station and the slate could be loaded from the narrow gauge to the standard gauge. A photo taken from the BR station showing a works train on the FR.
Prince was working shuttles that day between Porthmadog and Minffordd with the vintage cars, here Prince arrives over the Cob into Porthmadog station.
A couple of the carriages on the Vintage Train, the first one is a 1st class car .
Back later.
Pete.
<CN heavyweight at Pier 21, Halifax, NS - personal foto>
Wednesday's Witticism
You never know your luck till the wheel stops.
Wednesday means "hump day," ‘n any day at the bar means breakfasts, coffee ‘n pastries! Everything's ready - are you
Gettin' close to lunch time - so check out our sandwich menu - best 'n freshest lunchmeat in the county!
Comments from the Proprietor
Where's ROB
PLANNED ABSENCES:
(1) Rob will be gone for the last week of September . . .
(2) Pete will be gone for the month of October . . .
Fergie is still at sea - have no idea when he'll be calling in. And Dan is in The Legion of the Lost <again> <groan> . . . Calling upon ALL who CAN to do so during daylite!
It's "You Post, I Post" at the Bar by the Ballast!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Wednesday - September17th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 21 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:21 PM <9:21 PM Sandbox time>: 17 more work days to go - then what Hope you've outlined your "things to do" list designed to keep a retired man from going bonkers! <grin> I KNOW what I'm talking about . . . <uh oh>
Nah, we're sticking with the station wagon. At 36,500 miles why in the world would we dump it That along with the S80 getting a horrible city mileage of 15 mpg ‘n 23 on the highway. Hah! The wagon gets me an HONEST 20 in the city ‘n 27 on the highway. Volvo's wagons are top shelf in my OH-PIN-YUN, providing us with the flexibility desired in a car. Carol's Honda hybrid knocks the socks off of anything Volvo can put out <mileage wise>. Nah, I'll blow my money on getting the <censored> basement problem taken care of! <arrrrggggghhhhh>
Hmmmm, you said "hiding" - okay - how about that "brunette" of yours "hiding" - OR the ABBA gals Okay - Lingonberries! Yeah - right on the tip of my tongue . . . <grin>
Thanx for the diverse bit of fotography - from wildlife to trains!
Coupon It's on the reverse side of the ad! <oooooooooh>
Glad you're back on-line from home ‘n appreciate having you visit with us!
Reminder: Ruth has the until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, it is time for my Rumpsteak Café de Paris! Yes, and a cold Keith's, please.
Back again! No problems to log on tonight. 17 more work days left! It seems like no one knew what was in my picture from this morning. It was lingonberries! Very good berries, you can use them to almost everything. Go to your IKEA store and have lunch at their restaurant. order Swedish Meatballs and wyou will get them with gravy and lingonberries! Mmmmm. Or you can have pancakes with lingonberries!
Tom – Yes, the moose was a female and pretty large. To my surprise it was the only one I saw. Usually I see about ten of them when driving that route. The Volvo I rented was a nice one. Could drive almost 600 miles on one tank. I can’t find the coupon to mail to Southern Pacific!? I like everything SP. I wonder what station is on the book cover? Interesting to see that the Soo Line still had 47 steam locomotives 1954 comparing with 76 diesel locomotives. It seems like you had your lucky day today, having your car check out okay and no charge! Are you considering the S80 now? You can have it in the same blue color I had on the rental car! Carol will love it!Christmas look? I know what you mean but it won’t give you any reward for guessing right. CM3 – I actually took some photos of a couple of deer jumping across the road in front of me.
Same kind of deer outside the kitchen in the house I used to have in the old country.
I also liked the color on the Volvo. Pete – Thanks for the frequency info! That moose was pretty far away, nothing to worry about. River Thames at Windsor! I should have remembered, but it is 29 years since I was there. Interesting place. Too bad you don’t know where the brunette is. It breaks my heart! Nice photos of the saddle tank engines! That turntable looks very small. But I guess it is big enough. Nick – Thanks for the Tuborg! Nice photos of the EMUs! Really eye-catching colors! I didn’t worry too much for those cross-hairs. She (the moose) had a hard time holding the rifle steady. Thanks for the Farnborough info! I thought it was the same place, but was not sure. I read about the Connex debacle some years ago. I was on H.M.S. Belfast 1977 and at that time she looked very nice. Interesting to see the ship and listen to the guides. Tom is driving a V70. I used to have a 740 GL 1985. Had it for six years before selling it to my boss (yes we are still friends). Nice mix of photos! I like the Clonakilty model village. Looks almost like the real thing! Allan – Yes, I had a very nice time in the old country. The weather wasn’t the best, but I could still do what I had planned to do. The moose was about 300 ft away when I took the picture. Usually they are much closer. The Volvo was nice to drive but it had a stick shift. I haven’t been driving any car with stick shift since I worked as a truck driver in the 90’s.
Finally, a couple of photos.
Toronto, July 1993.
Swedish State Railways Class T41.
Eric
<personal foto - NYC #2933 at MoT, Kirkwood, MO>
Heard from Shane via Email - said he'd not be in during the morning, maybe not at all. So, here's the Acknowledgments thus far . . . I'll delay my arrival 'til mid-morning.
Sure can use some HELP 'round here during DAYLITE. <groan>
Tuesday - September16th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 20 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:27 AM <9:27 AM EDT>: "In" with a morning pick-us-up!
Yeah, the front side of the abode will take on an appearance of defensive positioning whilst the drain system work takes place. Interesting observation! <grin>
There are times when cash ISN'T as good as money - it's BETTER! Sorry, Yogi . . .
Sorry, but I've lost interest in baseball for 2008 . . . haven't even watched a series of downs at the start of the NFL season. Too many other distractions ‘n diversions taking place, I suppose. <groan>
Do appreciate the visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 21 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:13 AM <9:13 AM Sandbox time>: "In" with a Christmas look - surely appears to be a holly bush to me. Fa-La-La-La-LAH! <grin>
Sorry to learn of your access difficulties from home - but very pleased that you thought of us during DAYLITE! Really, really HELPS to get something going when you came by!
Took the Volvo in to the dealer this morning for a final check-up before my extended warranty runs out <later this month>. Wonder of wonders: (1) The sign that had the shop rate at $199 per hour now shows it at $115! Hmmmmmm. (2) I was provided with a 2009 S80 sedan <A wonderful car with that new car smell! Less than 200 miles on it.> (3) My car checked out - A-okay. (4) NO CHARGE for the service OR the new car use! <geesh> THAT just doesn't happen - but it DID!
Thanx for swinging by - Ruth enjoyed your company!
Page 21 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:03 PM: If the forecasts hold true, we're due for some absolutely great weather ‘n temps for your visit. Should be a blue sky day when we visit the StL MoT . . . ‘n who cares once inside the TrainWreck, eh <grin> Yes, by ALL means bring your BIG wallet. The small one won't do . . . <uh oh>
Hoping your train will not be impacted by the flooding expected between Washington ‘n Kirkwood. However, the rivers are moving rather quickly ‘n the people making the estimates have been all over the charts . . . who knows
Not to worry, I'll meet you at the appointed place no matter what the hour. We have all kinds of flexibility . . . <grin>
Just sent off the 1st installment on the drainage project <gulp> - I'm really unaccustomed to writing numbers like that on my checks! <yikes> Have an understanding that all of this will be completed before the end of October - translated: they'll probably go right to the end of the month. But, I'll be soooooooooo happy to be rid of the "diaper patrol" duties. Really a huge pain in the Patoot! <Amen>
Train names are fascinating - whether from this side of the pond or over in your homeland. Just conjures up all sorts of images when reading through a list . . .
The SOO operated in some vast territory insofar as distances were concerned. Not that many population centers between stops. So perhaps that sheds a bit of light onto the subject . . .
Look, just be thankful that H&H haven't "discovered" that you are indeed one of the Beatles in disguise - the one we never heard much about. Even they needed a Bar Chandler, methinks! <grin> Yes, by all means get yourself sheared . . . wouldn't want the biker gang at the bar to think you've infiltrated their territory. <uh oh>
Yeah, there's music, music, music down in that basement - also on the upper level - out on the patio - back in the ‘puter room. It's everywhere, Mate - everywhere! <grin>
Many thanx for your inclusive Post, good humor ‘n ROUND!
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
NICK Thanks for the Bathams. I did not realise that there was two forms of the Welsh language. Is the South Wales Welsh much different from the North Wales version, I had gathered that the North and the South Wales do not care too much for each other.
Unfortunately I lost those WTTs many years ago and I was quite young when I had them, but I did run my train set by them. Although there was nothing in the timetables about the cat we had at the time dashing in and de-railing the 1020 AM Class 6 goods from Chester to Llandudno Junction if the door was not keep firmly closed.
Thanks for the kind words on the Tanfield and Beamish Photos. I had another look through my notes and found what No.2 is although I had not put No. 2 in the notes, it seems every time we visited the North Yorks Moors Railway' s Autumn Gala, which we did for a few years in the 1990s, we visited Tanfield. Anyway No. 2 is a Hawthorn Leslie & Co. works number 2859. In my notes I see on the trip behind No2 we had Armstrong Whitworth diesel D 22 on the rear of our train.
Yes I do like that photo of the industrials around the turntable even the rain at the time, although making the photo dull, really suits the industrial setting. That is a great Rev. Awdry image of the locomotives discussing their careers at the collieries etc all in regional accents, like broad Scots for the Barclays, to each other after everyone has gone home.
Many thanks for the photos. Great to see Russell in the old days and I have a couple of photos of Prince on the Ffestiniog for tomorrow. What great old coaches there is behind the Irish Diesel.
ALLAN Yes I think from what I have been hearing the UK is due for some reasonable weather after a bad year there so far we are hoping October there is good.
It is amazing going back to somewhere after 30 years and seeing the changes that have taken place, in the UK when I visit a place I had not been to for a while the most noticeable thing is the amount of new houses that have appeared.
Glad you enjoyed the photos.
Perhaps if Toon gets a new owner he will re-instate Kevin Keegan anything else I can see the Toon playing to a half empty stadium, which is quite unbelievable for Newcastle.
CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos, the preserved lines at Tanfield and Bowes in the North East and the Foxfield in the Midlands of England really recreate the industrial setting.
I am looking forward to seeing Thurmond in the flesh I noticed in the photos that the old C&O coaling tower is still standing there.
ERIC on posting the 400th reply. Sorry you had problems logging on last night.
I have studied your photo and I was going to say berries but on second thought I will say a baseball glove.
TOM It will be good to see Fergie's photos
It is sad to read about those fatalities due to the remnants of Ike in your area.
Fair comment I suppose on my employment at the bar, the only grumble is the perks that can't be mentioned all involve H&H.
That seems the best solution to your basement problem by far, yes I would not like to think of the cost though,,we have only the one basement wall that is below ground here when we had to have it done. Must remember to bring my wallet Thursday.
It said the Missouri River crested here yesterday and should crest in Hermann today, just had a look and the train I am catching Thursday left here 45 minutes late and got to Kirkwood 1 hour 15 minutes late, quite normal really. I think the only thing that will really effect the Amtrak is if the UP line through Boonville gets flooded and the freights on the River Sub have to be diverted through Sedalia.
Great selection of songs on your Can-Am speakers.
Many thanks for the Fallen Flag on the Soo Line. It seems to me the Soo did not have that many passenger and freight cars for the track mileage they had in 1954. I like the Copper Country Limited name for a train and I think the Mountaineer Drumhead is a great design.
Well RUTH a round please, as I am off to get a haircut, before I start looking like one of the Fab Four.
Double the pleasure this morning with Shane 'n a suprise visit from Eric!
Here's a winner from our sub-basement archives room . . .
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #18
SOO LINE
<A form of this was initially Posted on 07 Oct 2005, Page 129 at "Our" Place I>
http://cs.trains.com/forums/129/991587/ShowPost.aspx
Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Soo Line Headquarters: Minneapolis, MN Mileage: 1954: 3,159 1961 (before 1985 acquisition of Milwaukee Road): 4,719 Locomotives in 1954: Steam: 47 Diesel: 76 Rolling stock in 1954: Freight cars: 8,035 Passenger cars: 128 Principal routes (w/Wisconsin Central) in 1954: Chicago-Minneapolis/St. Paul Minneapolis-Portal, ND Minneapolis-Sault Ste. Marie, MI Dresser, WI-Duluth, MN Owen, WI-Duluth, MN Glenwood-Noyes, MN Passenger trains of note: Atlantic Limited (Minneapolis-Boston, with CP and B&M east of Sault Ste. Marie) Copper Country Limited (Chicago-Calumet, MI with CMStP&P Chicago-Champion, MI, thence DSS&A/Soo to Calumet) Duluth-Superior Limited (Minneapolis-Duluth) Laker (Chicago-Duluth & Minneapolis &Ashland, WI; rerouted to Superior, WI from Duluth in 1961) Mountaineer (St. Paul-Vancouver, BC, with CP from Portal to Vancouver) Soo Dominion (St. Paul-Vancouver with CP from Portal to Vancouver) Winnipeger (St. Paul-Winnipeg, MB, with CP from Noyes to Winnipeg)
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Some drumheads of the Soo Line
Enjoy! Tom
Good morning Captain Tom and all present!!
Hello Ruth, nice to see you! No, I am in a hurry so I'll just have a cup of coffee and a danish. Yes, a late breakfast!
I am at the office and just wanted to say that I couldn't make it last night because I couldn't log on. Just got a message saying that the server did not respond. But I'll be back tonight. Meanwhile you can try to figure out what is in this picture.
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Forecast for today is "clar and cool," so it's cloudy, cool, and rainy - gotta love it! Gas holding at $4.15 this a.m. and the Red Sox draw closer to first place.
Nick was in with comments, colorful train pictures, and a fine shot of a vintage road roller - love that sort of stuff! Runes for translation? I knew it!
Allan was by with comments - over the yrs I have worked with people from various mining regions in Australia such as Queensland and NSW. Good folks.
Pete - Thurmond is on the itinerary for the next Rendezvous. I enjoyed the pictures of the small beasties in their native habitat.
OSP was by with Southern Pacific material. I enjoyed your 'job" story. Reminded me of the ad where Yogi says, "And it gives you cash, which is just as good as money." Sounds as though you are going to have a World War I reenactment around your house. I can see it now, Juneau reprising Rin-Tin-Tin the War Dog.
Tuesday is upon us as we pass over the mid-point of September . . . temps ‘round here have been absolutely wunnerful - didn't even make it to 70 (F) yesterday! Was cloudy though as whatever's trailing behind long-gone-Ike is kept us in the gloom. Today though has begun with a clearing sky!
Two deaths in the St. Louis area attributed to the passing storm . . .
No gloom in here though, so fill up those coffee mugs - grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Received an Email from Fergie - he's still "at it" ‘n my guess is he'll be heading back home sooner rather than later . . . sez he has some fotos to share with us, so we'll see. Some rather alarming info regarding the global temperature changes taking place, as the 30 scientists aboard are finding evidence of a more rapid warm up than ever witnessed . . . <yikes> The man definitely leads a most interesting life, fer sure, fer sure.
No Rob - No Eric
Monday - September15th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 20 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:16 AM <10:16 AM EDT>: Sports ‘n weather reports - TV listing - petrol prices - inclusive remarks - weekly movie comments - quarters ‘n a ROUND! What's more to say
Email sent Monday AM . . .
Thanx for the visit!
Page 20 - Pete <pwolfe> at 1:09 PM: "In" with an earlier than usual all-inclusive effort.
Read in this morning's Post-Disgrace <aka: local bird cage liner> that a woman died from injuries as a result of a tree limb falling on her during the passing through of Ike . . . Another fatality involved an elderly man suspected of drowning in his back yard as the waters rose rapidly in low lying areas. <sad>
I wonder whether any of our guys go out ‘n rent or purchase the feature films put up at the Emporium Theatre's weekly offerings Guess I'll never know . . . thanx for making mention of ‘em.
Looks like you may have just missed my SP ad . . . gotta use that RELOAD feature! <grin>
STRIKE Sorry, but those things aren't permitted in Can-Am County. Goes like this - get a job, do a job, get paid, go home ‘n start over the next day. Vito runs the Grievance Committee for Labor Relations ‘n Hemorrhoid Extractions, just in case you're interested. <uh oh>
Seems to me you were "rewarded' several times with a larger dipper - forgiveness of a portion of your bar tab ‘n "side benefits" not suitable for mention on this Forum.
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 20 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 4:35 PM <10:35 PM GMT>: MANY THANX for the daylite vist <Can-Am County time> which of course HELPS immensely during this period of Who-Knows-When we'll see a daytime customer!
Luv the spate of fotos on those passenger trains <sweet>!
Luv the ROUND even more!
Page 20 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:54 PM: Back with Part Deux ‘n some fine fotos.
What I wouldn't "give" to spend 42 hours on a streamliner like that SP beauty with the Alco ‘n Sunset Limited . . . Would be "perfect" with a dome car, eh Youbetcha!
Finalized the "deal" for fixing the basement water problem . . . will entail TWO trench-runs of 22 ft ‘n 50 ft - first dug down 4 ft, the other with varying depths. Outer foundation walls to be sealed ‘n waterproofed. Two French drains - lots of gravel ‘n decorative stones at the surface - water routed far from the house ‘n all for a sum that would make even the healthiest of maggots GAG! <yikes>
I think YOU'LL have to buy the beer at the TrainWreck - I'm pretty light in the wallet. <groan> <grin>
Weather forecast for Thursday ‘n Friday is excellent - just hope that the rise in the river levels do not adversely impact your trip aboard Amtrak. Keep a close check, Mate - which I know you will.
Many thanx for you fine inclusive Post ‘n foto spread - ROUND too!
Page 20 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:04 PM <2:04 AM Tuesday GMT>: Our man in Wales made it back with Part Deux!
That CN heavyweight - if I recall correctly what Fergie mentioned during our trip - was either one used to transport the newly arrived immigrants to their destinations, or one like it. Anyway, Pier 21 was the processing point for the newly arrived into Canada - once upon a time.
Yeah, those rounded roofs tell the tale on the German-Austrian carriages . . . definitely a give away. Thanx for the model shot. Green color is right on.
Amazed the Censor missed "that one"! <grin> But yeah, when it comes to politics, ‘tis far better to laff than cry . . . ‘n there's oh so much reason to do the latter. <groan>
My guess is the guy who hired you already knew of your quals - just had to go through some sort of legit protocol or some such thing.
Reminded me of a very brief experience I had at a local UPS <United Parcel Service> storefront operation. I was there to ship a parcel. The guy who ran it - who I had never met - asked me if I wanted a job. I said, "No." He persisted, telling me that he lost two of his long time employees ‘n was really hurting as the holiday season <Christmas> was approaching. I thanked him for the offer - told him I was retired - not hungry enough to want to give up my time. But relented when he said he'd pay me cash - hmmmmmmm. So, I helped him out for about a month. Absolutely mindless work - almost embarrassed to take his money . . . . Would never do it again, but the money went directly into the Can-Am Trainroom.
Oh the songs of my past . . . there are so many tunes, so many sets of lyrics that just set the stage for all sorts of emotions. Guess that's not really unusual, but music definitely is my most favorite escape from reality . . . the Can-Am Trainroom has a couple of speakers linked to my basement "sound system" where one can find all sorts of tunes on CD ‘n cassettes. You name "it," you'll probably find "it" in multiple album from. From The Four Seasons <Frankie Vali> to The Beatles to Roy Orbison to The Drifters <original> to Willie Nelson to music from Maritime Canada <many, many albums> to Chuck Berry to Gordon Lightfoot to The Beach Boys to Hank Williams, Jr. to The Little River Band <all of their top selling albums> to Journey to ABBA to The Platters <original> to Foreigner to The Bee Gees to the Big Band era <many, many albums> to Tony Bennett to The Oak Ridge Boys to Frank Sinatra to Phil Collins to Andy Williams to Chicago to The Gatlin Brothers to Huey Lewis & The News to Broadway musicals <many, many albums> to Ragtime albums to Hall & Oates to a complete set of Doo-Wop era albums . . . . I think you get the point. It's a great place to listen to all types of music while doing this ‘n that with the trains . . .
Appreciate knowing the movies shown at the Emporium have struck a friendly chord! Never been a DeVito fan - but must admit, he's been in some fine flicks. Taxi was hilarious . . . absolutely hilarious.
Again, many thanx for your fine inclusive Post, chat, foto ‘n ROUND!
Page 20 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:50 PM ‘n 8:53 PM <2:50 AM ‘n 2:53 AM GMT>: Back with another two-fer!
No abductions here - just fighting the urge to close my eyes! Did spend a bit of time in the Can-Am Trainroom - changing "diapers" ‘n working on the cabooses <installing window "glass"> - tedious, but the effect is worth it! Working on the daily acknowledgments keeps me busy in between watching the news programs on the tube. Exciting, eh <grin>
Final installment of locomotives <three> arrived along with the last of the cabooses! So, the display case of steamers ‘n cabooses is nearing completion.
Something for everyone in your foto spread - especially like that vintage steam roller!
Page 20 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:36 PM <4:36 PM Tuesday NZ time>: I can surely vouch for Volvo station wagons - perhaps one of the most better riding MoSheens I've purchased over the years. Going on 7 years old ‘n only has 36, 500 miles . . .
A few years back, Mama Mia <the play> came through this area ‘n was a huge hit. Ever since, they've brought back the traveling version on ‘n every other year basis. We really enjoyed it - great tunes! I'm also partial to brunettes - but have "yielded" to Eric ‘n "settled" for the blonde! <grin> Haven't seen the movie version, but will purchase it once the DVD comes out . . . figure the price of going to the theatre is close to owning it! Movie prices are ridiculous in these parts . . . <groan>
Not to worry regarding catching up - you've got a "benchmark" to follow considering the way Eric approached it! It'll probably take Pete a month once he gets back! <grin>
As always, appreciate the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Eric. Nice to see you again, hope you had a great holiday back in the old country, not counting your moose photo expidition though, how far away was that moose in the photo you took? The Volvo station wagon looks like a very comfortable mode of transport for your road trips` over there, couple of nice pix of the steam loco and the Brit DMU.
CM3. Nice to see you again, it`s great to be in back the loop once again.
Pete. Great to see you again. Hope you have a good trip back home and that the weather is kind to you for your time over there. Was surprised at all the changes in Queensland since we left there in 1972, it`s grown so much in every way possible, it`s very rich in coal, minerals and natural gas so they have lots of money for all the main infrastucture developments. Some nice shots from the NE of England with those loco pics from Tanfield and Beamish. The Toon looks as if they are dog tucker (Oz for dog food) now after Keegan`s demise, saw some news about the fiasco on Aussie Sky TV sports news.
Nick. Good to see you mate. Nice shots of the South West Trains at Guilford station, they sure are colourful, a lot different from the old green livery they used to have there, nice pix from Ireland, England and Wales too. Was able to keep up with all the news on the Toon debacle on Aussie Sky TV sports news, it looks like it`s all gone down the gurgler there now.
Tom. It`s great to be back on board once again, at the moment I`m busy catching up with all the posts` i`ve missed so it will take a bit of time to get up to speed with everything. Did`nt get to ride on the Queensland Rly Tilt Train at all due to organised trips around the hinterland near by, saw a couple of electric loco hauled frieght trains` and some suburban EMU`s in Brisbane at the airport Rly station, and that was it as far as trains went. Nice post in Passenger Train Nostalgia #21 on the SP RR. Your re-post of the ABBA poster was a bit telepathic, we went to see "Mama Mia" the movie on the only rainy day we had over there, it`s quite a good laugh all in all. Like Eric i`m very partial to brunnete`s as well!
See ya, Allan
<personal foto from ExpoRail>
Yo Nick!
Yeah - the blonde "does it" for me . . . brunette "belongs" to Eric! <grin>
Just was getting ready to secure for the night . . . watch the news, hit the pit.
Time for a nite cap <clink>
Hey boss-Mama mia-here I go again.......................--my my how can I resist her...
Hmmmm-seems to be a long gap between the lord and master posting-I hope this is a good thing (taking pix of new trains,"early night" ,etc )rather than a bad thing-floods in the cellar,loss of signal,abduction by aliens (hey-you never know....)-O.K-I`m rambling-will touch base with you all soon -here are a few random pix to tickle your fancies (ooeer missis)
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Heres a nice little shot from the Clonakilty model village
And a medley from Buckfastleigh in south Devon
An England Engine at Beddgelert <Beth-gelert> on the W.H.R back in the `30`s
W.H.R `Russell` plus dour looking Welshman-same time frame
Big diesel engine running next to narrow road-west of Ireland c.1960
O.K-thats me for bed-speak soon,
<seen before, but oh so well worth viewing again!>
Just wanted to acknowledge Nick for coming through in daylite <"Our" Place time> and again during nitetime . . . Am working up the morning acknowledgments, but didn't want you to remain "alone" on the other side of the bar! Have a belt of whatever flicks your switch - on me!
Many thanx for your continued support - more comments in the AM! Here's to ya, Mate . . . <clink>
Right,back again-and playing hide and seek with PETE by the look of it...
Leon-I`ll have that TUI from ALLAN please,give PETE a Bathams on my slate,plus a Keiths for the bossman,a blue for ROB,a Tuborg for ERIC,a serious `belt` in SHANE`S coffee and a Newcastle Brown for ALLAN (to remind him of home...)
O.K-To business-Well,top of the list is...I got the job-hardly the most challenging of interviews-"Whats your name" "How many fingers am I holding up" "Are you a rugby fan".....O.K-start monday.....
Actually not far from the truth-The guy was concerned that there are a lot of books coming in and going out and did I think I could cope--well,-I used to take care of feeding 40-60 people breakfasts,2 course lunches & 3 course evening meals every day plus all the attendant stock control,ordering,cleaning regimes,staff rotas,deliveries etc-on my own-so yes,I can prolly cope ........
TOM-A nice old heavyweight there-it begs the question WHY is it stuck out there ??......German Baggage car-pretty much a standard design I think....here is mine,lettered for Austrian State Railways
-Is the closest of the green cars-without the cupola but same basic design..
Politics-my all time favourite slogan is " Dick Nixon (before he dicks you...)"-gotta just treat it all as entertainment really is my take.
Spookily,my memories of `She loves you` are identical to your boys-almost to the letter-only difference,was out of diapers by then....one of those records I can`t listen to in company-just hits THAT spot.............
I hear you about the rain-is a feature round here that at certain times of the year the wind manages to blow the water into places you would swear were watertight-and normally are.....hey ho.....
Lovely pic of the Kirkwood `Oddments`corner-obviously aesthetics were not a priority-but hey-if it does it`s job...
Movies-I notice a Danny DeVito theme here-a big fan of TAXI from way back-forgot to mention last week,Shorty a big fave-am a major Elmore Leonard fan-both plot construction and that wonderful terse dialogue-thought that one translated very well to the big screen..excellent choice
ALLAN-Welcome back dear boy-you have been missed -Glad you enjoyed your break -not sure if you have been keeping in touch with the news but much angst in Toon-town-Keegan quits,owner has put club up for sale after threats of violence from Toon army-turbulent times..........
ERIC-You may not have clear pix of the moose-but it has crystal clear pix of you............just watch for the cross-hairs..
Farnborough is indeed the home of the R.A.E and the big show-way back in the day it was at the cutting edge of all aero developments
Most of the Southern region runs on the 3rd rail-and very efficient it is too..
A nice enhancement of the pic-although that train runs on a different section,not S.W.T-used to be CONNEX until they lost the franchise through sheer incompetance-is all a bit complicated to be honest-is a spider web of lines around that part of London.......
And yes-that is the good old H.M.S `Belfast` -and to be fair she is looking pretty tatty compared to when we had a school trip there back in the `70`s-a great shame-I rememeber her as a slim,sleek and brooding dark grey presence,standing ready as a last line of defense against possible foes.....
Jury is still out on the Trevithick engine-will keep you posted...-Nice Volvo-is a popular motor over here-oddly enough,the most popular model is the 740 (the one TOM drives..?? ) -mostly used by the police and former bikers with wives and children ( I have this statistic from a partly reformed biker-with-baby who is a member of the owners club....)
SHANE-Translating Welsh is a multi-stage process:-One starts with Welsh then moves on to Sanskrit,then Oggham runes,after this the Olivetti stone ( similar to the Rosetta stone but arranged for typists)and finally to Yorkshire-the hardest nut of all to crack--so much depends upon nuance,context,environment,number of sheep owned....frankly its a linguistic minefield............
R.E Beatles-see notes above-the crest of the wave-much as I love the Stones,the fab 4 were there first -a new world order in its way........
I must confess,that `Red Dragon` pic is one of my favourites....
TOM-For the Halibut....-And there I was thinking the great days of the music hall were behind us ..-a drumroll indeed.............
A nice nostalgia piece -good reading there mate-as ever
PETE-A can of worms there mate ..`Gog` Welsh (I.E Gogledd <gog-leth>-meaning North Welsh ,is an archaic dialect spoken up north,where the original Celts retreated into the mountains and sat out the Roman invasion-it is widely spoken up there still-South Walian Welsh is still widely used in the more rural areas-around Carmarthen for example-where we live English is the principle tongue-but then again this area is known as `Little England beyond Wales`....Most of the schools around here are English medium-there are Welsh medium schools as well but mostly within the natuaral catchment areas-there are also catholic schools which just goes to show-no system is perfect (school is for education,not indoctrination....)
But onto more relevant stuff...1st 4-6-0`s-a cracking challenge there mate -will get on to that one..Timetables-did it show special workings for the Port Dinorwic harbour sidings ( a trailing yard from the `up` line)-for certain portions of the day the siding was closed `cause the narrow gauge line ,which crossed at right angles had priority-the narrow lines crossed via a moveable length of track which sat on top of the std gauge line-believe it was a sort of end-pivoted turntable
Must confess,have never heard of Kipps yard-will try Google Earth for a startpoint-another nice little challenge ..
A happy by-product of modelling the S&D is using `Evening Star` on passenger turns-she was allocated in `62 for just such stuff-and what better engine to lift as many coaches as the loops can handle...thats the way
Now then-as union rep for our place I can only offer solidarity here-What have the Romans ever done for us ???????????????
Now the Tanfield pix-the first engine has the look (round cab) of the old Edmund Bury engines on the Furness Rly-the engine in the last 2 pix looks much the same but with dumb buffers-same cab and stuff-the 3rd pic (turntable) is straight out of the Rev.Awdry book where Oliver the western engine escapes to Sodor with the connivance of either Donald or Douglas (whoops-sorry-fantasy island here...)-Anyway-great selection-just dripping with atmosphere-excellent call
Right-Gonna post this before I lose it-might be back in a bit
Be lucky one and all.....
Back with part 2 RUTH, so another Bathams please.
ALLAN Great to see back in the bar after what sounds like a great holiday in Australia.
It seems the Toon are going from bad to worse lately, a 2-1 loss to Hull City at home this weekend after the start of the season looked so promising.
ERIC Great catch up post. I think that is as near I would like to get to that moose. It is the River Thames at Windsor.
I guess it will seem cold when we are in England, although it quite Englishlike temperatures here at the moment.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. Have to admit I don't know about the livery on those diesels at Santa Fe.
Yes the Trevithick locomotive was very noisy when it was moving, no wonder it used to frighten the folks who first saw it in 1804.
I don't know where the brunette has gone to. She said she had traveled a long way to get to Mentor Village and see you only to find you had gone to Sweden, she did not seemed too pleased.
Glad you enjoyed the photo of the USATC class S 160 # 5820 at Bury. I like your enhancement it has made it more atmospheric with the steam coming from #5820.
CM3 Thanks for the round and glad you enjoyed the photos.
I caught some of the Good Morning America news with them on the Amtrak train in New England. It looked great scenery the train was traveling through. Did you see the car right behind the two Genesis units I though it may have been another smaller locomotive. I hope we see some more of those older cars in the following programs. It seemed they had at least 2 Sightseer cars on the train.
In the latest Trains (October) there is a good article, with some great photos, of Thurmond West Virginia with CSX diesels one photo on the branch to the mine at Pax.
TOM Unfortunately a lady lost her life in the floods after the heavy rain near Columbia MO., it said on the local news this morning.
Many thanks for the SP Passenger Train Nostalgia from an advert from 1951 for the Sunset Limited It does sound a great way to spend 42 hours If only it was still possible to be able to join the train of the cover of the Sunset Limited book.
To celebrate Allan's return to the bar after the holiday, I have some photos from the North East of England. The first three are from the Tanfield Railway.
Saddle tank No.2 it looks to be an 0-4-0. The photos were taken at the little station by Causey Arch.
Next a photo of the shed at Marley Hill with a group of Industrial locomotives around a turntable.
The next two are of a 0-4-0 locomotive I'm afraid I don't know about, I believe the photo was taken at Beamish Open Air Museum.
NICK Just caught your photos from Guildford, many thanks. Do you know what class the EMU in the 1st photo is. It appears to have space on the roof for a pantograph to be fitted.
Well RUTH a round please before LEON comes on duty..
Hi guys,just a quick `bookmark` whilst I check through the posts..
Leon,A round of `winter warmers`please to keep off the unseasonal chill-and to keep them company,some of South West Trains candy-coloured finest at Guildford,way back in the far off spring.....
Right then-back in a bit
The post was getting a bit long so I thought I would do it in 2 parts.
TOM Glad you had a good night at the Music Man. It seems we had the heavy rain about 4 hours earlier and it stopped at about 8AM
Great selection for the random photos, I like the works car at Halton and the photos in the dark stations came out really well.
Thanks for the kind words on Alan's photos, perhaps Eric may know some more about that interesting baggage car.
The only good thing about the reverse holiday pay is Lars and Rob have not given me a rise in wages in years.
Yes with old equipment a tap seemed to work wonders it was surprising what a bang on top of the TV would do when the picture was rolling Thinking about it must have been a far while back that TVs used to do that, with modern stuff all you can do is swear at it.
Normally I flew with Continental as they were the only ones to fly into Birmingham UK direct from the US but we are going to London this time.
Two good films on at the Emporium this week. Funny Farm and Throw Momma from the Train sound good for a laugh with the Stooges messing with rocket fuel
ERIC I meant to add the frequency on the British Ac electrification is 50 Hz
Glad you enjoyed Alan's photos, yes they were taken on April 19th this year. Many thanks for the photos; the gasoline-powered engine looks good as well as the steamer.
ROB Glad you enjoyed the photos and thanks for the info on the trolley and the NS locomotives.
I see in Trains magazine that ex Toronto Peter Witt trolley #2898 was on display in Boston.
No paid holidays I think I feel a strike coming on.
NICK Happy 19th anniversary.
Yes Welsh is a totally different language to English and in North Wales is the main language used I believe, is Welsh taught in all the schools in Wales now do you know.
A Hard Days Night has been playing on one of the film channels on TV here as well over the last week, as you say a band with the Midas touch. From She Loves You to Sgt. Pepper in a few short years.
Another Our Place coincidence just reading an article about how those louvers in the chimney of the Jones goods was one of the first attempts to give drivers a better view by eliminating the drifting smoke. I believe the Jones goods were the first 4-6-0s in the UK as well.
I did at one time have a working timetable of the passenger and goods trains on the North Wales coast line in the late 1950s how I wish I had them now. It will be good to see the photo of the Y9 have you any idea where Kipps is; I imagine somewhere in the Glasgow area, perhaps near the large docks that was there then
Glad you enjoyed the photos, I had not heard of the Lone Ranger name for that livery variation before, like it. If I recall the photos were taken in the evening with a low sun there used to be a fair bit of freight activity around 7 to 9 pm at that time.
Many thanks for the photos. It is strange but GW locomotives always seem to look better when in their own patch and love the workaday appearance of the ‘Duke' could have been Parkfield Road Bridge 45 years ago. Yes Evening Star the loco that worked the last Pines Express over the S&D I believe, I wonder whose idea it was to try the 9Fs on the heavy summer Saturday passenger trains over the S&D a job apparently they were very successful at.
Well RUTH a round please and I will be back later..
Another <blah> Monday, but not the fault of our Resident WVA Connection - Shane made it ‘in" for the AM slot . . .
Here's something from our sub-basement archives room just for the Halibut <that's a fish story!> <drumroll>!!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #21
<Initially Posted on 08 Nov 2005, Page 157 at "Our" Place I>
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Here's something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.
Did you hear what the Colonel said about the "Sunset Limited"
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We're happy to say that thousands of Americans are finding our "Sunset Limited" a new and charming way to go West.
We think that you, too, will enjoy this sensational new "Streamlined Train With the Southern Accent." Especially with that New Orleans stopover. Luxury Pullman or Chair Car. Extra fare.
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The "Sunset Limited" takes you in 42 delightful hours through the heart of Texas, Southern Arizona's winter resort country, Palm Springs & Los Angeles.
There, you can connect with other great new S.P. streamliners, can return by another S.P. route. You see twice as much. The little map shows how.
Why not try it this winter? Or next summer? And meantime, why not let us send you our New Orleans folder, and full information about this new way to California?
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SP AMERICA'S MOST MODERN TRAINS
Good day for New England sports teams. Red sox go to Tampa for three games starting day, Patriots won, and with a look toward the south, so did my Giants.
Good Morning America is doing a rail-related extravaganza which started this morning. Many scenes along the Boston and Albany with station stops at various points along the way. Nice to see some of the scenery from the home road. The train consist is a couple of Genesis units, several Superliners, a PRR parlor car and what looks to be a PRR business car.
Lars stopped by with comments and observations as well as a nice selection of books. The Knickerbocker tray brought back some memories. I remember a place at home that had a Knickerbocker clock - wonder how much that would bring on the memorabilia market today? Also, glad to see that our Giants are doing well.
Pete was in with many photos. I enjoyed Alan's photos from Germany and your shot of the King Edward I. The Burlington had quite an extensive steam program back in the day. For the record, Burlington Northern merger(s) occurred in 1970.
Rob visited with comments and other additions. Retire to Northern Ontario - why not. I'd be up in VT as far north as I could if I could afford it.
Eric was in with comments and some fine looking "small" locomotives. We have deer all over the place here; there are usually 6 or more in our parking lot when I leave in the evening. Nice looking Volvo - like the color.
Allan has returned - good to see you back.
Nick - Phonetic translations of Welsh? Do that and we can learn to speak Yorkshire (lol). Interesting thought playing Little Feat at 45. Your comments on "Hard Day's Night" were well taken. Remember very well when the Beatles appeared on TV for the first time in this country - Ed Sullivan, IIRC. My compliments on the Red Dragon picture.
OSP has been in with an eclectic selection of photos. I commented on the weather above - no rain as I said but a lot of electric problems in the region. Hope you managed to keep things dry as possible. We did o.k., but our friends in Kanawha County and over in Ohio did not fare as well. Nice selection of movies as well - Funny Farm I have not seen in awhile. Throw Momma ran here last week on our cable system.
Work safe
A smile to begin the week!
"If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal
Monday once more - hopefully a DRY one! We had more rain yesterday than needed - lots of flooding, power losses, downed trees, etc., etc. Fortunately, no losses of life ‘n nothing in comparison to what the folks down Texas way experienced. Good riddance, Ike! <groan>
Hard to believe we're mid-way thru September . . . FALL is coming up FAST!
Okay, ‘nuf of that . . . breakfasts are being prepared in our galley - coffee ‘n pastries are fresh. So, let's get a move on!
Sunday - September14th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 20 - Allan <Gunneral> at 11:30 PM <6:30 PM Monday NZ time>: What Ho! The return of our Resident Downunder Boom-Boom Kiwi! Great to have you back amongst the crew - your next Tui is on me along with a refill!
Can only imagine your get-away ‘n looking forward to reading about your exploits in Australia.
With you 'n Eric back at the bar - at least we'll have some dependability after dark! Daylite is still sporadic, at best . . .
Take your time in catching up - there's all kinds of fine stuff awaiting!
Page 20 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:41 PM <9:41 PM Sandbox time>: As promised, our Resident NOCTURNAL Desert RETIRED Swede came through with a super-fine catch-up ‘n made it inclusive as well!
With so many fine submissions of quality information ‘n fotos, it is highly recommended to go back for review of Pages Past! There's ALWAYS something missed or perhaps not fully read through on the first go ‘round . . . Nice work, Eric!
Moose looks to be a female ‘n surely LARGE!
Good selection in rental cars - VOLVO in Sweden! Doesn't get any better than that . . . but those petrol prices are outta sight. <yikes>
Need to tell us a bit about that steam loco . . . nice enhancement of Nick's foto!
Many thanx for your Sunday submission - made for an interesting review.
Kind of dark here, as always. Okay, there is the mail slot. Let's see. Ah, down it went.
This is my catching up and does not include posts since my last posting Saturday. In other words, this is kind of Old Stuff!
Tom – Recon mission for our Manager set up by me? I would never do such a thing! Especially not on a Sunday! At least not very often. The moose hunting was a flop! I saw only one and it was pretty far away. My picture of it is not even sharp. Nice poster from the Swedish National Railway Museum! Wish I had one on my wall. More interesting photos from TRE and your RDC ride! It’s kind of fun to see you posing in front of the RDC number, #2013! That is exactly the same number as the power unit of the X2000, #2013, that Amtrak leased! Must have been a most interesting trip to Dallas. TRE also has a few GP9s. Classic locomotive. Sleep like a Kitten! I like that C&O ad! The RDC-1 ads from 1950 were correct. RDC was a very useful car. I must admit I am kind of surprised that not more RDCs were built. I like the photos of NH’s RDCs! GG1! Indeed a very classic locomotive. Too sad there is no operational one preserved. I understand the reasons, but it is still sad. I just noticed it had the same power output as the X2000. Another thing GG1 and X2000 had in common was track 16 at Washingotn’s Union Station. GG1 came in on track 16 and couldn’t stop, ending up in the baggage room and X2000 “lived” on track 16 during its year with Amtrak. A bunch of very nice photos of GG1s!PRR S1 was a different kind of locomotive with its wheel arrangement. I can understand if it was slipping easily with only 8 drivers for that size of locomotive. Too bad it wasn’t preserved though. Looking at the photo from the World’s Fair with a close up of the drivers it seems like the drivers were sitting on some kind of "wheels" so the drivers could spin while the locomotive was on display. I wonder if they fired her up to get steam for that purpose? Very nice view from the northbound ARR Denali Star! But I wouldn’t care for it in the winter! I also recongized some strange looking people at St. louis Union Station. Must be from FBI’s archive of most wanted. Interesting photo from Chicago of the Texas Eagle, that had been switched to the platform a little bit earlier. The brakeman’s device connected to the train line is still in place after the train was backed up to the station from the yard. I guess I missed a couple of for me unknown movies at the Emporium while I was gone, Caddyshack and The Longest Yard. I like B&O’s emblem! It is a very nice design. B&O had 10,000 miles of tracks in 1950. Very even number. All the way to St. Louis! Nice photos from, among other places, Harpers Ferry!Hmm, so many UK ads/posters for our Interim Governor General!?! Okay, I guess it won’t hurt. I've been to Windsor but I can’t recall I saw that water/lake/river. Very nice steam locos you bought! You have to figure out a way to expand your layout! Hmm, Pete’s friend showed up again! That is strange! Hmm. Wonder why? Where is Pete? And he starts talking about Hooters!? What is going on??Good photos of NYC’s Hudsons! A very classic locomotive!A tribute to our Captain, the car I rented in Sweden, a Volvo S-60. Very nice to drive. The gas price is a little bit more than twice our price.Pete – I thought it was cold when I was in the old country. My blood is so thin after the years in the desert that everything below 75-80Ëš is cold. Interesting photos from Santa Fe! I wonder if the livery of those locomotives was something they created when Santa Fe and Southern Pacific were supposed to merge? You are right about the TT scale. It didn’t last very long. I never had anything in that scale. Cleethorpes Coast Light Railway has a very nice steam locomotive, #24! Wow! Nice photos!You mentioned there was a brunette in the bar asking for me while I was gone. What did she say? Thanks for the nice samples of your American photos!A very nice collection of steam locomotives from Llangollen and Great Central Railway! The number plate on the class 2MT No 78019 looks kind of German to me. Interesting photo of the Trevithick’s locomotive! Must have been interesting to see it move. Different kind of wheels on it. No flanges. Hold it! Something is going on! All of a sudden your friend from Canada shows up again (what was her name?) and then you start talking about Hooters at St. Louis Union Station! Where is the brunette? Anyway, the ‘Duchess of Hamilton’ is a very good looking locomotive! The replica of the ‘Sherpa’ is a very different looking locomotive! A little water tank over the front part of the boiler and coal over the boiler behind the water. I can’t recall I have seen that before!I found this photo very interesting so I enhanced it a bit. Hope you don’t mind.Fergie – Saw a lot of icebergs close to your waters (between Greenland and Canada) coming back from the old country. Its a lot of water there.Allan – You are right, there is a lot of moose running around in Sweden. Every other highway car accident is a collision with a moose or deer. Hope you had a good trip to Australia! The weather during my moose photo expedition was okay. Rob – Racking up frequent flier miles? I just found out that they (United) credited me with only 1,068 + 1,068 miles for my flights across the Atlantic. Should be 4,272 miles each way. You can’t trust anyone. I don’t know what happened to all your photos? They don’t show anymore. I like those Mishaps on the MTC! Just feel sorry for the horse but I guess it survived. Nick – Thanks for the trip report! Farnborough station, is that in the same town as Farnborough Air Show? I guess the train you were riding was an electric running with power from a 3rd rail. At least that is what it looks like in your photo. I enhanced it a little bit so I could see the lower parts of the train. Hope that is okay.
Nice photos from London. I think I can see a tiny little bit of HMS Belfast on the other side of Tower Birdge. Is she still there? I am afraid I don’t know much about the Trevithick locomotive. Did they really use that big flywheel as a driver? CM3 – Yes, I had too much rainy weather in Sweden. No desert climate there. It was nice to come back to Phoenix and the triple digit temperatures.
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please, and maybe a tot of Bundaberg Rum too!
To all. Just got back home last night, Sunday Sept 14th here, my Bride`s sister had us stay for a family BBQ on Saturday evening, so just could`nt refuse that! We had a great time in Aussie, Noosa Heads is a great holiday spot, nice and warm compared to NZ, great apartment and great food too, including lots of King Prawns`, my favourite seafood! Had a quick scan of page 19 and this one too, great to see the Larsman on board again, a nice surprise as a welcome back to Our Place. Will have a meander through the pages` and catch up with all the latest gossip, info and pix and get back to chatting with you all again, it`s great to be back once again that`s for sure.
<personal foto at StL Mot, Kirkwood, MO>
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . September 14th thru 20th: Funny Farm <1988> Starring: Chevy Chase, Madolyn Smith Osborne, Kevin O'Morrison, Joseph Maher & Jack Gilpin - and - ENCORE Presentation of Throw Momma From The Train <1987> Starring: Danny DeVito, Billy Crystal, Kim Greist, Anne Ramsey & Kate Mulgrew. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Fulen' Around <1949>.
<NOTE: Throw Momma From The Train <1987> first shown Sunday, Feb 11th thru 17th, 2007>
Funny Farm <1988>
PLOT SUMMARY: When Andy and Elizabeth buy a farm in Vermont, they can't imagine the trouble that awaits them. Andy has quit his job as a sports journalist and is planning to use the peace and quiet of the country to write the Great American Novel. From the moment the movers' truck gets lost with their furniture, though, there's little peace and less quiet. From a manical mailman to a dead body buried in the garden, Andy is distracted by the town and its wacky inhabitants. His effort at a novel is mediocre, at best, and he's threatened by Elizabeth's foray into writing when she attempts a children's book. Can the Farmers survive the townsfolk and each other? Written by Rick Munoz
When Andy and Elizabeth buy a farm in Vermont, they can't imagine the trouble that awaits them. Andy has quit his job as a sports journalist and is planning to use the peace and quiet of the country to write the Great American Novel. From the moment the movers' truck gets lost with their furniture, though, there's little peace and less quiet. From a manical mailman to a dead body buried in the garden, Andy is distracted by the town and its wacky inhabitants. His effort at a novel is mediocre, at best, and he's threatened by Elizabeth's foray into writing when she attempts a children's book. Can the Farmers survive the townsfolk and each other? Written by Rick Munoz
Throw Momma From The Train <1987>
PLOT SUMMARY: Get ready for a runaway comedy that's right on track! "Danny DeVito and Billy Crystal are hilarious [and] Anne Ramsey is hysterically frightful" (The Hollywood Reporter) in this "wickedly screwball" (Playboy) laugh riot that won a Golden Globe nomination for DeVito and an Oscar nomination for Ramsey. With Rob Reiner and Oprah Winfrey on board for cameos this fast-track comedy "will certainly make you laugh" (Newsweek)!Writing teacher Larry Donner (Crystal) and his student Owen Lift (DeVito) have a lot in common: the women in their lives are driving them mad! Larry's ex-wife Margaret (Kate Mulgrew) stole his novel and made it her own bestseller and Owen's mother (Ramsey) is a monster! But Owen has a plan to kill both problems literally! He'll murder Margaret while Larry sends Momma to her maker! But when Owen fulfills his end of the deal before telling his teacher Larry's left with no alibi and an outrageous obligation to knock off the nastiest old lady he's ever met!
Get ready for a runaway comedy that's right on track! "Danny DeVito and Billy Crystal are hilarious [and] Anne Ramsey is hysterically frightful" (The Hollywood Reporter) in this "wickedly screwball" (Playboy) laugh riot that won a Golden Globe nomination for DeVito and an Oscar nomination for Ramsey. With Rob Reiner and Oprah Winfrey on board for cameos this fast-track comedy "will certainly make you laugh" (Newsweek)!Writing teacher Larry Donner (Crystal) and his student Owen Lift (DeVito) have a lot in common: the women in their lives are driving them mad! Larry's ex-wife Margaret (Kate Mulgrew) stole his novel and made it her own bestseller and Owen's mother (Ramsey) is a monster! But Owen has a plan to kill both problems literally! He'll murder Margaret while Larry sends Momma to her maker! But when Owen fulfills his end of the deal before telling his teacher Larry's left with no alibi and an outrageous obligation to knock off the nastiest old lady he's ever met!
SHORT: Fulen' Around <1949>
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges are carpet layers working in the home of a scientist, Professor Sneed, who has invented a super rocket fuel. Because of his curly hair, Larry is mistaken for the professor, and the Stooges are kidnapped in his place, and taken to the State of Anemia. They're ordered to produce the new rocket fuel or face the firing squad. The Stooges stall for time and start mixing anything they can find in an attempt to make a phony rocket fuel, but their ruse is revealed when the real professor and his daughter are captured and brought to Anemia. The Stooges' formula comes to their rescue, though, when they use it to burn a hole in the floor and escape!
The Stooges are carpet layers working in the home of a scientist, Professor Sneed, who has invented a super rocket fuel. Because of his curly hair, Larry is mistaken for the professor, and the Stooges are kidnapped in his place, and taken to the State of Anemia. They're ordered to produce the new rocket fuel or face the firing squad. The Stooges stall for time and start mixing anything they can find in an attempt to make a phony rocket fuel, but their ruse is revealed when the real professor and his daughter are captured and brought to Anemia. The Stooges' formula comes to their rescue, though, when they use it to burn a hole in the floor and escape!
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend!
Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
<but go ahead ‘n slip your messages thru the mail slots on the doors!>
The rains have arrived after midnite - stormy 'til around noon, keeping Juneau housebound 'til then. Lost our cable package (TV - fone - internet) for about 5 hours. But at this writing, we seem to be back in business - rain has ceased.
CLOSED on SUNDAY is the rule ‘round here. But of course if you have something to drop off - use the mail slots.
Saturday - September13th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 19 - Pete <pwolfe> at 12:21 PM ‘n 1:52 PM: "In" with a two-fer on this most muggy of Saturdays. <phew> Makes me wonder how anyone can say they enjoy this stuff . . . can't imagine living anyplace where humidity is thick enough to slice! <barf>
Anyway, most appreciative for those fine fotos from your Mate - Alan. Like the colors on the German equipment - nice match.
That baggage car <or whatever it is> behind the loco looks almost like my LGB post office/baggage car I bought for my passenger train set up for Christmas. Minus the cupola, though . . . similar design ‘n color.
Those right-of-way shots are superb!
Interesting that you brought up the topic of your bar tab - long term absence ‘n scheme for paid holidays at the bar. Goes like this: Whenever a salaried employee decides to take leave of "Our" Place for an extended period <definition of "extended" determined by committee ‘n sure to vary with personnel involved> that employee's bar tab will be increased by the amount of wages one would've earned had they been here. Now, for paid holidays at the bar. Bwaaaaa Haaaaaaa Haaaaaaa Haaaaaaa. Get the point
Recall that song from Disney's Snow White - Hi Ho, Hi Ho it's off to work . . . . well in your case it's I Owe, I Owe, to pay it off I go . . . Kinda fits, eh
Bronx cheer would've been heard without a doubt - I think you confused some muffled groans with cheers of delight regarding your TEN train names. <grin>
Do appreciate the elaboration regarding the Thrysitor control - for a second there I thought it was something related to making one impotent. But what do I know <yikes>
And I've "tapped" a rectifier or two in my day . . . but of course, they weren't supposed to be "banged upon" to get ‘em to function. This was hardy equipment, aboard ship . . . they don't make ‘em like that anymore. Boris, hit it again! <bbbbbbbbbang!>
I know you're not taking Continental Airlines for any legs of your trip - but just recently saw where they're planning to discontinue service to the UK from some stateside airports - Kennedy in New York being one - effective in mid-October, I believe. Makes it awfully difficult to plan anything out, eh Bet people holding tickets are ecstatic with that news! <not>
Enjoyed your visits ‘n appreciate the time ‘n effort you put into what you do for us!
Page 19 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:12 PM <12:12 AM Sunday GMT>: Great to see that our man in Wales has a Saturday night/Sunday morning "off." Didn't expect a weekender from you - but surely helps things out to have you aboard! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Belated 19th wedding Anniversary greetings! How in the world did MissiNick survive it all <grin> Women - tuff creations, eh Youbetcha!
That "lipstick on a pig" is getting wide use ‘n to think it's such a "dated" saying . . . stick ‘round long enough ‘n things have a way of resurfacing.
Real world news, as seems to be the case, is a bummer - best to lock ourselves into "Our" Place ‘n shut out the demons.
Appreciate the 1st installment of Nick's Saturday Nite at the bar!
Page 19 - Eric <EricX2000> at 7:22 PM <5:22 PM Sandbox time>: Many thanx for the Saturday visit - earlier than usual, which is appreciated!
Add another dime to the petrol price increase . . . topped off both vehicles ‘n the price has risen to $3.80 <rounded>. Heard that stations are running out of fuel with "Sorry, no gas" signs being posted. That, of course, creates a "run" on the dwindling supplies. Fortunately, we do have refineries across the river in Illinois, so we probably won't run dry until those Texas facilities get back on line. However, we surely will see a "spike" in pricing - it's already well over $4 in Illinois <higher tax rates>. <barf>
Many thanx for the rundown ‘n additional fotos on that "funky" train . . . stretches my "like" for ALL things that have steel wheels rolling on steel tracks. <grin>
IF I ever BUY a lottery ticket AND wind up a WINNER - I'm going to purchase one of the VIA Rail Park car observation domes ‘n pay them to haul my aging body back ‘n forth across Canada attached to the Canadian . . . now there's a PLAN!
Last time I ran a fare check for a round trip from Toronto to Vancouver in the triple bedroom <drawing room suite> the cost was DOUBLE what we paid in 2002-03. Can't imagine there are very many taking that thrice weekly trip very often on a repetitive basis. Sorry to say, it's become a tourist train - BUT still maintains a schedule - still hauls passengers in coach ‘n still has the "feel" of a REAL train.
My longest flight aboard a commercial airliner was in 1988 from Los Angeles to Kuala Lumpur aboard a Singapore Airlines 747. It was a 17 hour trip ‘n I spent most of it in the upper lounge. Was wunnerful . . . government sent me over in coach class ‘n I upgraded the trip on "my dime." Somewhere over the Pacific the flight attendants invited me to enjoy the lounge - which I did! Trip back was more of the same, although I was TIRED - only spent 48 hours "in country," then back aboard . . . <ugh> Was without a doubt the best flying experience I ever had . . .
Many thanx for the twilight <actually dark with the cloud cover ‘round here!> visit!
Page 19 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:59 PM <9:59 PM EDT>: Music Man was a treat - rains held off - a good evening out with the bride! Juneau survived until we returned home so it was a good Saturday nite!
That Algoma Central trip would indeed be a good one. I'd most probably be doing a "solo" on that one, so perhaps it could be something we could consider. What time of year would you recommend How much time do you think something like that would involve from Toronto ‘n return First nite in Brantford, of course - visiting the St. George Inn is a priority <of course!>.
Thinking of the "wilds of Ontario" brings to mind an image of YOUR gal <now working at The 2nd Class Saloon> . . . "wild" is an understatement, at least from what my imagination conjures up. <yikes>
Do thank you for keeping this joint in your mind! Business helps to pay YOUR salary! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Page 20 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 9:03 PM <3:03 AM Sunday GMT>: Back with part deux ‘n a grand time was had by all! Certainly outdid yourself on that effort, Mate!
Appears we're both in situations of intense rain ‘n gloom. What better place to pass the time than inside our Bar by the Ballast As long as the ‘lectricity remains "on" - we've had several "pulses" that have tripped off a few gadgets - but thus far, things are holding up. Emergency generator is on stand-by ‘n fortunately there's a stash of petrol to keep it runnin' for a few days if something like that were to occur. <uh oh>
Thanx for the pronunciation help on the Welsh . . . might be a bit o' fun trying to tackle that language. Probably win my share of "bar bets" with a "Can you pronounce THIS " challenge. Maybe even a punch in the snoot . . . <yikes>
Hardly panic, but concern for the well being of "Our" Place - very pleased to know that you're not planning on skeedaddling anytime soon . . . but of course, should "that day" come up - would really appreciate a "heads up."
Sure appears that your band is found some on-line fans out there - downloads can be a double-edged sword, eh Gives one a feeling of satisifaction knowing someone gives a Rat's Patoot for your music - but on the other hand, no Sheqels!
Basement issue isn't really just one area. The most problematic is going to be contracted for a fix . . . have others than cause grief only on the most unusual of weather-related circumstances. Like TODAY! <groan> Best to see it than try to describe it - nothing that many other homeowners are faced with. With occasional horizontal rains pelting the sides of the house, why not some leaks, eh Fortunately only the basement is experiencing problems - living spaces are dry ‘n tight. Thankfully this isn't shipboard - for the bilge pumps would be working overtime. <yikes>
Zephyr is indeed a thing of beauty. You'd really appreciate a visit to the StL MoT ‘n then a sojourn over to the TrainWreck Saloon for a recap of the day's events! <oh oh>
Mention of early Beatles brings to mind "She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah . . . " a favorite of my oldest when he was in diapers. His mom would sing that to him ‘n he'd grin from ear to ear, trying his level best to do the "background"! <grin> Yeah, they had the Midas Touch ‘n hit it just right here in the land of squealing young girls . . . Seems just like Yesterday <not a bad tune, either!>.
Red Dragon Express is a <keeper> - Duke of Gloucester looks to be quite the beast on rails ‘n Lord Beaverbrook is a monster model!
Many thanx for the menu, drinks, good cheer, foto's ‘n insightfulness of chat!
As a departure from my policy of trying to avoid back-to-back Posts - we're at a multiple of TEN - time to remind all on-lookers of the way we do things 'round here <from Page One>.
"Our" Place III was locked today by Kalmbach, so "Our" Place IV has begun on this 31st day of July 2008.Final statistics for "Our" Place III:REPLIES: 1,254VIEWS: 25,965PAGES: 63* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *The links to the old bars:#1 - http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587#2 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/201/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960#3 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/63/1500733/ShowPost.aspx#1500733<Note: #1 had 451 Pages - #2 had 201 Pages - #3 had 63 Pages . . . hmmmmmm> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains." The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains. All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.Objective: Have fun!Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch. Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Final statistics for "Our" Place III:
REPLIES: 1,254
VIEWS: 25,965
PAGES: 63
The links to the old bars:
#1 - http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587
#2 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/201/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960
#3 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/63/1500733/ShowPost.aspx#1500733
<Note: #1 had 451 Pages - #2 had 201 Pages - #3 had 63 Pages . . . hmmmmmm>
What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.
History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.
Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains."
The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains.
All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.
Objective: Have fun!
Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch.
Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.
Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Right-back for the main event,looks like the weather is closing down all over so lets pull the drapes,settle down in the members lounge,crank up the sounds and prepare for an evening of wining and dining -Leon,I`ll have the pan fried Welsh Black fillet stuffed with pate, brandy,cream and mixed peppercorn sauce, onion rings, grilled toms, skinny fries, petit pois and a couple of yorkshire puddings (-hey-it`s my dinner-I`ll have what I like .....) And whilst you are about it,lets have a couple of bottles of the good brandy please and a tray of the balloon snifters-top man-have a couple of belts yourself,the track gang will be in soon after weekend overtime on the S.O.B system and I doubt they will be wanting Gatorade.......
O.K-A general note-is worth mentioning that Welsh is a completely different language to English with seperate semiotic roots and the letters have different values-thus Llanfair (for example) is pronounced "thlan-vi-ar"-is remiss of me not to have provided phonetic translations before-will attempt to do so in future....
So-to business:-
TOM-Dont panic mate !-this band won`t be hitting the road anytime soon-Missisnick has full time important work and Hannah has school,so is destined to be local work only-shame `cos it is the best band I have ever played in-that said,we have an open invite to put tracks up on the local record labels download website so studio time is imminent-indeed,one of our H.C.Band tracks has had 10,000+ downloads from various sites -quite shocked when I found out.....(thats downloads- not views......)
Hope you enjoy tonights show -and wildly envious of the Lightfoot show -enjoy !!
Like the rest of the company I am pleased you have a potential result on the basement issue-I know it will hurt to write the cheque but if it means the Can-Am,S-Capades and family home are made secure then I guess it is worth it...................
SHANE-I know it sounds like a stretch but play a Little Feat `33 at `45 and it will sound like James Brown (sort of) -same `pulse` and swing.........
Actually a brief digression here-sat and watched the Beatles movie "Hard Days Night" the other evening-blew me away all over again,from the first chord to the fade out-perfect pop songs,-genuinely sent shivers up my spine-Took me right back to my earliest childhood..."She loves you,yeah yeah yeah"..............."And with a love like that...You Know it cant be bad,Yeah yeah yeah yeahhhhhh............."-truly 4 lads with the Midas touch
ROB-Wonderful pix from the A.C.R & O.N.R-and a delightful statement of intent regarding your feelings about your home -people tend to forget that just because Canadians are the most laid back people in the world (with the possible exception of the Irish) you can dig in with the best of them-I would hate to be part of any army that tried to invade-it just wouldn`t work ("O.K guys-back up into the woods-they`ll soon lose interest and s*d off again")
LARSMAN-Here is a treat unlooked for -good to see you mate-Hope all is as well as might be hoped for ......Appreciate the straight talkin`-tell it like it is mate !!-good on ya-nice set of images for us-and would concur with PETE -is a Jones Goods on the front cover of the Highland railway vol.-could be wrong here but believe some of them had slots cut in the front of the chimney,presumably to lift the exhaust smoke
TOM-Isn`t that Zephyr a thing of beauty.........
PETE-Timetables-I have a much treasured copy of the S.R 1936/7 working timetable -last used to provide a basis for my S&D line operations-lovely pic of the `King`-as luck would have it I have a model of 6024 in that livery ( but not so shiny )-Llanberis-got the wrong end of the stick (or line) with that one-when we were there they were laying out the new line towards the centre of the village (pix to follow) -was all a bit of a building site-imagine it is all up and running by now.......was thinking in terms of an extension towards the coast.....Y9`s-only pic I have is in the Ian Allan-will scan it anyway but is very small pic-I think they are the `Pugs` that Hornby used for their `basic` shunter-got 2 of them,they use Scalelxtric motors held in place by a couple of springs-very reliable but startling 0-60 speed.............
Wonderful `West Coast` pix-how soon those liveries have been consigned to memory-rather fond of the `Executive/swallow`passenger colours and the `Lone Ranger`(black around the windows) freight variations--and some lovely afternoon light on the pix
ERIC-now that little engine has got my mind turning-have seen similar examples on the Moor Vale Railway down in darkest Hampshire-leave it with me for a day or two-lots of family stuff going on just now so a bit busy but will get with it.....
PETE-again-Those pix from Alan hit the spot-my Alan was well into that scene (as you know )-is rather poignant as his widow is asleep in Hannahs room ,about 6 feet above me......
TOM-Back to you sir-a fine mix of all that is good-especially enjoyed the C.N#30 with just a glimpse of the O.N.R 14xx -an Alco R.S if memory serves,in the background
Right-general note-lots of pix promised (plus a track plan or two-) bear with me please,it will happen-just a bit busy at the moment......
O.K-lets have a pic or two before we go-Yer man the boss has noted a fondness for big British steamers..now these have been out before but what the hey-so sue me.......
Now you can just hear the roar here-the Red Dragon Express lifts out of the Europort terminal at Fishguard & Goodwick.............
And the `Duke of Gloucester` takes it nice and slow -either for the dozens of trainspotters with cameras or the appalling state of the track.......who knows..
And speaking of appalling track-here is `Lord Beaverbrook`on an up express-an excellent engine-holds the track well and will lift whatever you hang on behind it,despite losing the so-called `traction tyres` early on
Am looking forward to adding a re-built B/o/B and `Evening Star` to the fleet as soon as finances permit..............
O.K-bedtime now-speak soon-be lucky.....
Good evening Leon. I think a Keith's and a nice strip loin done to perfection with the mushroom sauce oh and what the heck a fully loaded baked potato.
Tom-Enjoy the show tonight and your upcomming one I aggree with you Gordon's music is just that real music not the canned trash of today ( ask me what a really think of it )
Great photo's from your vault today , nice to see that Delson saved one of the 70 tonners incidentally those were the only GE locmotives purchased by Canadian roads until CN orderd their first batch of cowel bodied dash 8's in 1991 !As to that pair in Marion those NS units were early dash 8's with the non-wide cab bodies , cheap and ugly and in proper Southern / Norfolk Western style they were set up to operate long hood forward.
Hope you weather the weather well tomorrow they are calling for upwards of 50mm of rain here tomorrow as well ! We may all be bailing before it's over and done with.You get to here and I can drive us the rest of the way to the Sault,it's not that far.Besides you'll see parts of Ontario that are still wild.
I was kind of thinking that Lars's final post over at the other thread was appropriate.I wasn't thinking of supporting it much any more myself.
Pete-Some great photo's , oh and no one gets paid holiday's sheesh the noive of some people eh Tom
Eric-I can't imagine that the Sault would look like much of anything from 37,000 feet, I doubt you would even see the Seaway locks well from that height.That's an intriging little steamer,I think one just like it would look good in your back yard
Rob
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