Hi Tom and all.
A Pint of Bathams please RUTH.
TOM Great to talk with you today. Many thank for the good wishes for my trip. Puter seems to be working now but very SLOOOOOOOOOW.
Thanks for the kind words. If we had a shop steward Sundays would be paid leave for the bar chandler. Yes I think the bride's digital camera has too many bells and whistles for a simple soul like me.
As you say as The Call of Trains is a new book so I have no problem ordering it when I get back.
Those St Louis Olympics certainly had some strange goings on. It is a shame that those really great Expositions and World Fairs, like the one in St Louis are not held any more. Many thanks for the photos from our visit to the MOT. If I have a big lottery win I will by them another shed to keep those great exhibits out of the weather.
Another thing learnt by me at Our Place, how the 2-8-2s got the name ‘Mikado', I think I have said before but there was only two classes of standard gauge 2-8-2s in Britain the LNER P1 and 2s, although a 2-8-2 wheel arrangement was considered before the 2-10-0 arrangement was selected for the 9Fs.
I see it said the Mikados were ‘America's most popular engine' but the sign from the MOT says the there were more 2-8-0s built than any other wheel arrangement, perhaps it was the engines that ran in Canada that made the difference.
I am sure you will have a great night at the Gordon Lightfoot concert, it sounds that was a very serious illness he suffered and was lucky to survive. As well has a great number of songs he recorded, a lot of good artists have covered his songs a sign of a great songwriter.
Enjoyed the photos of the CP and CN freight trains on the Can-Am looking great passing the fir trees in the snow. Great M.E.S.S. 40 footer. The is a rumor a certain Zeppelin Company and the Second Class Saloon is to sponsor a three car steamed hauled mixed train on the mountain line or so VITO told me.
Many thanks for the Classic British Steam Locomotives on the L&SWR N15 King Arthurs. There are some good black and white photos of the N15s in the link on the first link and that is a great model of No.768 Sir Balin in the other link.
NICK Thanks for the twenty, hope my English bank notes have not got out of date, do they still have the lion on the fivers.
Yes the photo of Waddon seems another Our Place coincidence.
Many thanks for the S&D scenes on your layout. Yes the Caledonian Pug has very similar looks to the NB Y9. I see the Caley engines appeared three years later than the Y9s, which were introduced in 1882. Great busy scene at 82F the must be a story behind the N.E. tender, perhaps ready to be converted to a snowplough. Yes well done indeed Tri-Ang/ Hornby.
I guess the GW ‘Kings' did not work west of Cardiff. I have read that the Cardiff Canton men got some of the best work out of the Kings.
Thanks for the good wishes on my trip and hope you can come to Birmingham.
The QI sounds another good BBC programme.
ERIC I hope it does not get as cold in England as on the Celsius thermometer in your photo on my trip to England. I will have to get used to seeing the temperatures in Celsius now again for the next few weeks
Many thanks for the photos, I guess when I get back from my trip it won't belong we are seeing scenes like that here in Mid-Mo.
It will be a real shame if there is not a change and the great looking #29 is not to be seen running on the GCR again.
Have a very happy full retirement.
ROB Thanks for the information on the winterization hatch. I will see if I can get a mate for the black bag while I am over there.
Many thanks for the great photos from your daytrip. That is a great looking station at Goderich it is great the city used the station for the Parks Commission and looked after it after the passenger trains stopped running there.
Interesting about the preserved school car, I wonder how long those GP 38s have been under repair.
FERGIE Thanks for the kind wishes on my trip. Reading your post reminded me that I think the GM class 66s for British freight operators like Freightliner GBFr, and DRS and the ones for mainland Europe operators are shipped through Halifax.
Funny enough I can't seem to get many people to play darts with me in England ether, so I guess it will have to be the odd game of Crib or Dominoes while over there.
Many thanks for those great photos of those great engines and scenery on your layout.
CM3 November 7th, or thereabouts, will be great for me to get that book. Hoping to get a glance of the book in the UK.
I think Charles Dickens was involved in a bad railway accident in the South East of England, which he never recovered from.
Glad you enjoyed the photos.
ALLAN Yes I too liked the looks of the B1s although Thompson, the designer of them, seems to have not too good a name. No one can deny that the B1s were fine engines, some of the ‘Antelope names that the first 41, Nos 61000- 61041 carried were a bit obscure. I see in amongst the antelope names No. 61036 was named Ralph Assheton. I think the LNER had the best names for engines.
Glad you enjoyed the photos and many thanks for the kind words on my trip..
Just realized how long the post as got, sorry folks but wanted to post before my trip early tomorrow. Here is something I had prepared earlier; yes, it's the next 10 Western Names
1041 WESTERN PRINCE
1042 WESTERN PRINCESS
1043 WESTERN DUKE
1044 WESTERN DUCHESS
1045 WESTERN VISCOUNT
1046 WESTERN MARQUIS
1047 WESTERN LORD
1048 WESTERN LADY
1049 WESTERN MONARCH
1050 WESTERN RULER
Only 23 to go.
Well I will try to load a couple of photos if not, may I thank you all for the good wishes on my trip and hope to call in the bar from the old land. So a round for all please LEON.
Pete.
Well good evening gentlemen all-Just a bookmark whilst I gather myself-Leon-Looks like Keiths & Tuborg are the poisons of choice today,so please do the honours.....good man
Will be ,of neccessity,a brief one tonight-full day today and start new job in the morning (long story...)-special note-TOM-excellent freight shots from Can-Am country-interested to see the power runs `elephant` style.....How did you find switching couplers on the Model Power cars ?? -have tried it on some of mine and to be honest it`s a bit of a b*gger.......P.S-Nice one on the Brit steam
Also -FERGIE-That is some fine equipment you have there sir (as the actress said to the bishop....ahem)-an impressive piece of modelling-looking forward to seeing more.........
Right-off to assemble a suitable Pikes Perspective Piece
back soon
P.P.S:- lets have some Lightfoot on the juke <yeah>
Good afternoon Captain Tom and all present!!
Yes, Ruth, I'm back! Tui, please!
Time for another quick stop. Happened to see the picture below so I decided to post it. I'll be back later with comments.
Grand Canyon Railway #29, now just a memory. Too bad.
Round for the house!
Eric
G'day Gents!
What Ho! I finished my fonecon with Wolfman Pete only to discover a 2nd visit today from Fergie our Resident Canadian Maritime Mariner!
A first, I believe, with a bonafide submission of splendid model railroading from the M.E.S.S. in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia! A five Salute to our Master Modeler!
So much to take in - so many things to savor! Excellent shots, Skipper Fergie!
Pete sez he MAY be able to log in later on, but if not - wishes all of our <GoR> the best 'n he'll try to at least view the bar from Merry Olde . . . Expects to be back with us on Mon, Nov 3rd or perhaps the next day, fer sure, fer sure!
Now something else from me on this day . . . .
This new series has been created in recognition of the fine representation ‘n support we enjoy from Brits <including ex-pats> at "Our" Place!
Now Arriving on Track #4
Classic British Steam locomotives
Number One - LSWR N15 class
SR N15 30777 "Sir Lamiel" at York <foto: Phil Scott - GNU Free Documentation>
The LSWR N15 class was a British 2-cylinder 4-6-0 express passenger steam locomotive designed by Robert W. Urie. The class has a complex build history spanning several years of construction from 1919 to 1926. The first examples were constructed for the London and South Western Railway (LSWR), where they hauled heavy express trains to the south coast ports and further west to Exeter.Following the Grouping of railway companies in 1923, the LSWR became part of the Southern Railway and its publicity department gave the locomotives names associated with Arthurian legend.[2] The Chief Mechanical Engineer (CME) of the newly-formed company, Richard Maunsell, increased the King Arthur class strength to 74 locomotives. Maunsell incorporated several improvements, notably to the steam circuit.The new locomotives were built in batches at Eastleigh and Glasgow, leading to the nicknames of "Eastleigh Arthurs" and "Scotch Arthurs" in service. Maunsell's successor, Oliver Bulleid, further improved performance by altering exhaust arrangements. The locomotives continued operating with British Railways until the end of 1962. One example, 30777 Sir Lamiel, is preserved as part of the National Collection and can be seen on mainline railtours.
Following the Grouping of railway companies in 1923, the LSWR became part of the Southern Railway and its publicity department gave the locomotives names associated with Arthurian legend.[2] The Chief Mechanical Engineer (CME) of the newly-formed company, Richard Maunsell, increased the King Arthur class strength to 74 locomotives. Maunsell incorporated several improvements, notably to the steam circuit.
The new locomotives were built in batches at Eastleigh and Glasgow, leading to the nicknames of "Eastleigh Arthurs" and "Scotch Arthurs" in service. Maunsell's successor, Oliver Bulleid, further improved performance by altering exhaust arrangements. The locomotives continued operating with British Railways until the end of 1962. One example, 30777 Sir Lamiel, is preserved as part of the National Collection and can be seen on mainline railtours.
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Tom
Just to Keep our beloved proprietor of the Bar by the Trackside happy and while I wait for the glue to dry...
I might as well have a Keith's please and thanks... Yes I'll spring for the next hour or soNo it's not my Birthday but as good as any excuse to have a beer before happy hour!
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
A huge THANX to Eric, our Sandman, for providing a mid-day Post! It turned out to be an "enabler," in the "You Post, I Post" scheme of things at the Tavern by the Tracks! That's precisely the kind of thing to do in order to help keep the material flowing . . .
Received a fone message from Pete - sez he's having all sorts of difficulties trying to get on the Forums. Guess those Gremlins have found out where our Interim Governor General resides ‘n have come up with a going away present. <barf> Anyway, best to Pete if we don't see him before departing for Merry Olde! That large Bathams is for YOU - CHEERS, Mate! <clink>
AND right before Posting this, I caught a submission from Shane - the guy who said he probably wouldn't be "in" today or tomorrow . . . no complaints, though - surely good to see ya! Petrol here is at $3.53 <rounded> . . . . more in my next round of Acknowledgments.
It's Wednesday ‘n time again for our OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
Here's some ‘evidence' that there are freight ops taking place on the Can-Am Railway!
Rule of Six Suspended <by two>!
Freight on the Can-Am Railway - Part One:
(1) CP freight making a northward journey on the eastern slope of the Can-Am mountain range . . .
(2) Motive power for the CP freight comes in two types: Forward is CP GP9M #1522 - following is CP GP40-2 #4656
(3) How did that 40 footer get in there
(4) CPR caboose bringing up the rear of the northbound freight!
(5) CP freight moving northward on the Can-Am Railway
(6) CN freight making a northward journey on the western slope of the Can-Am mountain range . . .
(7) Motive power for the CN freight comes in two types: Forward is CN GP-38-2 #5543- following is CN GP7 #4563
(8) CN caboose bringing up the rear of the northbound freight!
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please;round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Just a quick stop as I am between tasks today.
Pete was in with a nice collection of photos.
Eric visited with comments. 12 days and counting...Gas is $3.79 here this morning. Also I liked the picture you got at Penn Station - small open space between the station and the tunnels, IIRC.
Rob - More Goderich pictures. The school car has an interesting history. See my comments to Fergie below.
Fergie - On target with your comments re maintenance. One of the first things I look at while visiting a property is their shop. You can tell a whole lot about the rest of the operation by looking around at their shop. I havea similar theory regarding paint schemes as a sign of financial health; Lehigh Valley comes to mind here. IOW, the more paint schemes, the weaker the property. I know, Penn Central was an exception to the rule.
OSP - Enjoy your concert. Also appreciated the summary about the 2-8-2s and more MOT material.
Apologize for the quick post but I gotta get back at it. Same situation applies for tomorrow. I'll try and visit.
work safe
Good morning Captain Tom and all present!!
Hello Ruth, just a cold Tui, please!
Have a short break so I thought I should just stop by and see how things are going. Looks kind of quiet right now. I'll be back later with an inclusive post.
Penn Station, NYC.
<On order for my modest hardcover RR book library!>
Wednesday's Witticism
You're bound to succeed if you have ignorance and confidence.
Mid-week in mid-continent USA and it's a NEW month! Oktoberfest begins in Mentor Village with the festivities beginning on Friday evenings through Sunday nite for the remainder of the month! While "Our" Place isn't actively participating, we do provide the tent ‘n libations in our "outback."
Time for breakfast! Order a <light> or <traditional> bill o' fare from our Menu Board - grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n of course fill up that mug with our freshly ground ‘n brewed Joe!
Tonite's the nite for Gordon Lightfoot! Surely looking forward to it - up close ‘n personal at that. The man has undergone a tough time in recent years - health wise. Glad that he's back on tour!
A link! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Lightfoot
By the by - Shane reports that he will probably NOT be "in" today or tomorrow . . .
Comments from the Proprietor
DAYTIME help with the Posts REQUESTED!
It's "You Post, I Post" at the Bar by the Ballast!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Tuesday - September 30th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 28 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:56 AM <10:56 AM EDT>: Inclusive remarks - quarters for Herr Wurlitzer ‘n a ROUND for the Gents!
Thanx for the head's up Email . . .
Page 28 - Pete <pwolfe> at 12:49 PM: Fine fotos of those beasts of Britain! Disappeared into the Ether, not to be heard from again on Tuesday . . . <groan>
Page 28 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:30 PM <2:30 PM Wednesday NZ DST>: Typically inclusive comments - a ROUND of TUI - ‘n some fine chat!
By the by - that wasn't the World's Fair of Louisiana - it was the St. Louis World's Fair! Understandably confusing to those who aren't "into" our history - Louisiana Purchase was a huge step in fulfilling what was to be known as Manifest Destiny - expanding the new nation from sea to sea . . . but first had to get the "middle" taken care of! Interesting history . .
A link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_Destiny
Fully appreciate the concept, Mate - keep ‘em happy in the home ‘n they'll remain at home! <grin>
Page 28 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:56 PM <9:56 PM EDT>: Took the time to provide some fine fotos!
Gotta wonder how effective those windows up on top of the snow plough are during winter's wrath Always enjoy seeing the snow equipment! <grin>
Too bad the Railway Car School program is no longer - great job for my educator wife! I'd be the Conductor, of course!
Get used to it, Mate - there will be huge gaps in daylite Post times as the daytime DEPENDABILITY flame flickers out . . .
Yeah, we need to be told again how other Threads will be LOCKED the way we were at 63 Pages! <barf> Believe that, 'n I have an Arch to sell ya . . . <grin>
Home 'n home hockey 'tween the Leafs 'n Blues. Meaningless, but nice to see the Maple Leafs back in St. Louis . . . Oh how I miss that Norris Division of old. <groan> Just was thinking about a trip 4 of us made to the old Garden in Toronto back in 1996. Flew on the same plane <Air Canda Regional Jet> with the team . . . was a "trip."
Thanx for the time ‘n effort to help keep us going!
Wednesday - October 1st:
Page 28 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:53 AM <10:53 PM Tuesday Sandbox time>: Let's see - there's THE Brunette - then the Brunette who worked at Hooters - then THOSE Brunettes - ‘n of course ALL Brunettes. Hmmmmm, methinks SOMEONE has a fixation with Brunettes! <uh oh>
TERRIFIC snow fotos - luv ‘em! I want to live there - NOW!
Don't know why I feel so "anti" when it comes to the metric system ‘n the formerly termed "centigrade" - but it just doesn't sit well with me. I'm glad that our country is sticking to what has worked so well for us ‘n not gotten into line with the changes. But, one day SOON it will happen ‘n all of those <censored> revisionists will dance in glee. <barf> <grumble> <mumble> It's an subject ‘n better suited for elsewhere, lest I get myself into more trouble!
The only time my ship was in the North Sea was in mid-summer - as calm as a backyard pool. But as with all large bodies of water - they CHANGE rapidly ‘n can turn tranquility into a white knuckle experience. <yikes>
As always, appreciate your inclusiveness ‘n choice of random shots - that one of the steam loco drivers was at Rendezvous III, for I see Shane ‘n I in the distance . . . <grin>
ROUND appreciated!
Page 28 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 7:06 AM <9:06 AM ADT>: A most pleasant surprise <again> as our Resident Canadian Maritime Mariner has graced the joint with not only his presence, but conversation AND business!
As mentioned several times - the welcome mat is out for you ‘n Lisa whenever you can find your way south of the 49th! <grin>
Absolutely OUTSTANDING air fares that you came up with. Understand fully regarding TIME <these gals of ours really put the crimp on OUR styles, eh!> - and I seriously doubt that people are riding VIA Rail in bedroom accommodations to save money. Ha! It's for the pleasure of it all - trust me!
If I could be GUARANTEED that there'd ALWAYS be a passenger rail connection to Montreal ‘n beyond - We'd seriously contemplate moving to Halifax! Love those trains - NOT the Renaissance crap - but just the enjoyment of taking an overnight trip aboard a real scheduled train passing through some marvelous countryside <Truro to Sackville is the best of the run in my OH-PIN-YUN> . . .
We'll have to wait for your fotos - but surely you must have something for this Wednesday's OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! <geesh>
Many thanx for your interest in the happenin's at this Watering Hole by the Wayside!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Captain Tom and Crew
I'll go lite this a.m. witha mugga of your finest non-Starbucks or Timmy's es gimme the real stuff!! Well today will be more chores and such and maybe I'll get the 2nd curve started. Unfortunately as I am reconbobulating my main lines it's resulting in a cascade effect as I am having to rework the adjoining spurs No pics yet though so hold yer horses!!
Tom: Lisa has the same issue as Carol regarding "time off" from work. This trip is happening over the Thanksgiving Weekend (Canadian) so she can maximize on her holidays. As it is the flight up each is under $150 each while the flight home is, are you ready for this... are ya sure...
$49 each Yes that's right!!! No way could Via compete with that unfortunately.
Still the trip to Kingston will be enjoyable. The Museum looks very interesting indeed, suspect it would be a "full day affair". And Don't worry we are not the "SHow up on the Door Step out of the fog" types. You would get plenty heads up.
Rob: When I see pictures of engines being worked on in that manner I get scared. Tarps and such means a bare bones operation and one foot in the grave for a company trying to survive. CBNS is something akin to that. Though I blame the short sightness of government for the decline in Rail Service in the region.
Pete: You not gone yet? You must be getting excited maybe you can get the Brits to give you a tip or two with the darts it's either that or we'll give you "Nerf" tips for the lethal tragectiles upon your return
Eric: The North Sea is very much like the Grand Banks, very shallow less then 100 metres in depth (much shallower in ares) and wide open. This allows for very steep and high waves. Not something I look forward to at anytime, especially January or February when there is freezing spray involved.
Shane: Haven't decided on the next Morning Sun publication but I'm thinking something with B&O as they had some fine equipment.
Anyway time for me to hit the showers as I already had my 11 km ride this morning and have to get on with the day at hand.
Later All
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, yes, you heard it! Rumpsteak Café de Paris and a cold Tuborg Gold, please. Put it on Nick's tab! Thank you!
Not a bad day here at Our Place today! I wonder when Pete is leaving? Any day now, I guess.
Nick – Thanks for the steak! And the Tuborgs! I’ll be happy to show you how to operate some old and new electrics. The main thing running European trains is to learn how to handle the brake. Interesting facts (?) on the Olympics. But it couldn’t be 1902. 1912 the Olympics were held in Stockholm, Sweden, so it must have been 1900 or 1904.Rob – Good looking SD70M-2! M-2 stands for what? DNA samples are DNA samples, always useful!Thanks for the info on the museum! The summer is always better than the winter!!! I like your shots of the station buildnings! That is a very good idea! I have to check what I have. Not too many, I know that. I recognize that name, Guelph (junction?). Good collection of photos from Goderich! Including the special for Tom, a snowplow! The caboose look pretty modern! Fergie – Good to hear that Kyle wasn’t too hard on your neighborhood! I agree, land is good! We, my first mrs and I, went by boat across the North Sea in the fall of 1975 from Gothenburg, Sweden, to London and it was through a pretty rough storm (in my opinion). I survived, but we flew the next few times we went to London. Tom – Sorry I couldn’t make it in during daytime today. Now I have only 12 more days to work. No, no! You didn’t pay attention did you? I wrote that the brunette lived in that town. Not the same as the brunette at Hooter’s. There is a difference!Of course Celsius is a fraud. It’s too much common sense, 0Ëš when water freezes and +100Ëš when it boils instead of +32Ëš and +212Ëš respectively. Geesh. BTW Celsius first name was Anders. An old, reliable Swede! He passed away 1744. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CelsiusA nice parade of rusty locomotives (plus the good looking Nickel Plate Road) at the MoT! Too bad I never took any pictures of that Italian electric. Interesting class of locomotives, the Mikado! Classic indeed!Snow!CM3 – I guess you know that minus 40ËšF equals minus 40ËšC. The coldest weather I have been in was -37ËšC (–34.6ËšF). That was cold! Glad you don’t have trouble getting gas when necessary. The cheapest gas here now is $3.25. I hope the gas price will stay below $3 next spring when it is time for Rendezvous IV. I don't feel like flying.Pete – A different looking locomotive, Southern Railway N15 Sir Lamiel! Different looking smoke deflectors and the front windows of the cab are also different!
When are you leaving for your trip?Allan – Two years? You better tell them to hurry up! At least you have something to look forward to!
Good evening Leon , figured I would pop in with another round of photo's from the Goderich trip.We're just back from today's day trips ( shopping ) <ugh> gotta keep the bride happy though.It ended in a several hour wander around Ikea and the purchase of this n that for the house.So just one beer tonight Leon ,oh put it in a tin mug forme so I can accost the Mentor populous for loose change. .I'll come back later with some comenst on today's fine fare.I must say ot was busy for a Tuesday than what we normally see.We were obviously the busiest thread on the forum today as Tom's preceding post was 2pm this one's almost nine pm and we were still in the number one spot.You know what that means,it's close to shut down time again as we are obviously dragging the forum down with our size and length.
Tomorrrow I won't make it in till quite late most likely as we are heading up the Highway to Trenton Ontario and the RCAF museum on the air base there ( they have the only restored Halifax bomber,one that was dug out of a Norwegian Fjord ten or so years ago,now it's put back together ( will never fly )
Right more photo's from Goderich.
The school car restored and a museum at Clintion Ontario ( little towm right before Goderich,not that Goderich is big ! )
The reading material for said school car.
Snowplow at Goderich you can see the old cement loading / unloading ramp for trailer on flatcar service , and the crane used for removing containers from flat cars as well.Right by the Goderich CN station
Two of the Goderich and Exeter's GP38's undergoing some work by the station,there was alot of locmotives in various states of repair/disrepair by the station.In fact they were using leased SD40's for their road trains while we were there.
Another shot of the same pair
An old CN Pointe Ste Charles Caboose that the Goderich and Exeter are now using.
enjoy
Rob
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please.
Rob. Some fine random shots from your trip to the York & Durham Rly and some fine shots from your new camera of the stations and the harbour views from your Goderich trip, boy, was that quick or what?
CM3. We will have to wait for two years for the IKEA store to be opened, it`s a greenfield site at the moment.
Nick. A couple of fine shots of your layout mate. That was an amazing bit of info from that Q1 show hosted by Stephen Fry. The Gresley coaches did not look at all good in that c&c livery.
Eric. The IKEA store will not be opened for another two years, they have to start building it yet.
Pete. They most definatley need Kevin back at the Toon if only to keep the fans placated. The LNER B1`s were real workhorses, they were used for both frieght and passenger service as they were so economical and very reliable. Some fine shots of the SR King Class "Sir Lamiel" and BR Class 5 "Camelot" in a very well maintained condition on the Bluebell Rly. Safe trip mate!
Fergie. Good to see you in and on dry land again.
Tom. A fine Featured Locomotives #2 on the EMD SD70 series with all the info and pix, and a very nice set of Random Fotos`and the StL MOT displays from Pete`s visit with you. Some very interesting links to the 1904 Summer Olympics in St L and the Worlds Fair in Louisiana. A fine start to a new series in Classic Steam Locos` #1 on the Mikado 2-8-2 with the pix. Had to keep the bride happy yesterday with that trip to Hastings and Napier, she wanted a new La-Z-Boy leather lounge suite so just could`nt refuse that, took us all day to select the RIGHT one no less!
See ya, Allan
Pete made it "in" close enuf to "qualify" for that free breakfast - sure hope the H&H gals didn't give him too much grief for being late . . . <uh oh> The man is always running that way - kinda like the proverbial character with one foot nailed to the deck. <grin> But, what in the world would "Our" Place be without him, eh We'll soon be finding out! <groan>
Now Arriving on Track #3
Classic Steam Locos
Number One - Mikado 2-8-2
The first Mikado was manufactured in 1897 by Baldwin for Japan, and named in honor of the Japanese emperor. Mikes were famous four being all-around workhorses - durable, practical, well-suited for all terrain. They were fast enough for main line passenger service, maintaining speeds of 60 mph. They were powerful enough for demanding freight runs, with improved wheel arrangement and firebox position providing greater steam production. Mikado's dominated freight locomotive orders until 1930, and were America's most popular engine. They ran until the twilight of steam, with some preserved today for tourist excursions.
Mikes were famous four being all-around workhorses - durable, practical, well-suited for all terrain. They were fast enough for main line passenger service, maintaining speeds of 60 mph. They were powerful enough for demanding freight runs, with improved wheel arrangement and firebox position providing greater steam production.
Mikado's dominated freight locomotive orders until 1930, and were America's most popular engine. They ran until the twilight of steam, with some preserved today for tourist excursions.
<source: IHC model train literature>
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A pint of Bathams please RUTH if I am too late for the breakfast Tom offered yesterday.
Started on my post in word but have to out in a while so I thought I would drop off a couple of photos featuring Southern Railway N15 King Arthur class 4-6-0 No(30)777 Sir Lamiel.These were on a special where Sir Lamiel hauled us, The first photo is at Andover, I believe, on the former London & South Western railway main line from Waterloo to Exeter.
The special went to Bournemouth where 30777 is waiting to depart on the homeward leg. In 1958 she was a Dover engine and would have worked the Cross-Channel boat trains.
After the 'King Arthurs were withdrawn some of the names were fitted to the BR Standard class 5 4-6-0s that replaced them. Like the King Arthurs there was only 1 'named' Standard 5 preserved here is No.73082 'Camelot' at its home on the Bluebell Railway.
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Hopefully back later so a round please RUTH..
Pete
Special note for Pete: Just received an Email from amazon.com indicating the book is anticipated for delivery on 05 Nov . . . .
Shane made it "in," thereby enabling me to provide another chapter in The Proprietor ‘n Bar Chandler series begun a couple of weeks back . . . Oh yes - your Email was received 'n responded to - thanx!
(1) RFDS (Italian State Railroad) #550.025 - Class ES550 at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
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(3) Alton & Southern #12 0-8-0 Switcher at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
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(6)St. Louis-San Francisco #1522 4-8-2 Mountain at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
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As a general heads up b4 we get started, Amazon gave me a November 7 (tentative) shipping date for Call of Trains. They are usually pretty close to their times.
Pete - I recall the Mugby Junction story by Dickens. He did several railway-related stories which appeared in various Christmas magazines which he churned out annually. They were collected in the Penguin Classics (IIRC) edition of Christmas stories. The title is a little misleading if you expect just "A Christmas Carol" to be in there.
Nick - Models older than the prototypes? I'm older than some of the prototypes! Anyway, I enjoyed looking at your photos, especially the one showing the turntable. Oscar Peterson is on my short list. On PBS over here, Marian McPartland did a long-running series titled "Piano Jazz." Excellent stuff if you have not heard her programs. One of my co-workers is an Art Tatum devotee - scary how well Tatum played. Received wisdom is correct re film types as OSP mentioned. Here's another: Agfa had a distinct red-orange shift. We always have room on the porch - one of my favorite places.
Eric - Celsius thermometer - glad you sent that along. We have been known to get to minus 20F here sometimes during the winter although it's been a long time since I have seen that. We have had no problem with gasoline here. It is, in fact, dropped a bit today. Most of ours comes from a refinery over near Ashland, KY - you'll see it if you drive to next rendezvous - then it goes by truck from there.
Rob - We are pretty much GE territory around here (CSX anyway) so big EMDs don't get over here that much. When I moved here, the opposite was true as GP7s and 9s did a lot of the work and GEs filtered in gradually. Their maintenance base was at Clifton Forge. Neat rail grinding car! I enjoyed your barons of architecture and captains of industry pictures. The D&H has some station similar to the one at Goderich - some wood and some cut stone.
Fergie - Morning Sun has several good ones on the Boston and Maine and on the Maine Central. I like to look at their books before I buy, though. Georges - I have not been there in forever.
OSP stopped by with a nice summary of the SD70. The money lords decree that I won't be able to see at least the first game the Bostons play in LA as I am gonzo by the time it starts (work interferes with leisure time again). We'll see if the Chicago Americans (White Stockings) can win one more time - nothing like doing stuff the hard way.
Nice picture of UP 7000; their first 4-8-2. This was part of an order (UP 7000-7039) blt. by Brooks from 1921-1923. 29x28" cylinders, 73" drivers and 54,838 lbs. tractive effort.
Work safe
It's not only the last day of the month, but also that nondescript day we call Tuesday! <ugh> Anyway, breakfasts are ready - coffee 'n pastries fresh 'n filling the place with good smells . . . so c'mon, join us!
DARTs Team Shirt Selections:
<based on order of responses>
#7 - Pete
#5 - Fergie
#2 - Allan
#1 - Rob
#4 - Lars
#3 - Nick
#6 - Eric 'n Shane <assigned!>
So, that's IT . . . as mentioned, just wanted to get this out of the way BEFORE Pete departed. Details for our 3rd Annual Dart's Challenge 'n Grudge Match <the OH-FISH-UL title!!> will follow in EARLY November . . .
PLANNED ABSENCES:
Bar Chandler Pete will be gone for the month of October . . .
Monday- September 29th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 27 - Eric <EricX2000> at 7:17 PM <5:17 PM Sandbox time>: Made it "in," but the sun had set! <grin> Anyway, good to see ya earlier than usual. REALLY HELPS in helping me get a leg-up on the morning's rundown <aka: Acknowledgments>. Those late niters are killers for me . . . turns my early morning into somewhat of a rush. <barf>
The Brunette lived there From a quaint winter's setting in Sweden to Hooters in St. Louis to The Second Class Saloon. Now that's quite a transition! <yikes>
While not certain, I believe that little switcher is the one used to shunt the cars ‘n locos from place to place . . . there are no markings on it, other than the "I Think I Can" sign . . . cute lil' MoSheen, eh
Celsius is a fraud - Fahrenheit sez it better-er! <grin> That's HARDLY what I'd call COLD! <geesh>
Fine inclusiveness from our Sandman along with a ROUND for me ‘n one for the house!
Page 27 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:19 PM ‘n 8:48 PM <2:19 AM ‘n 2:48 AM Tuesday GMT>: And our Resident Londoner in Wales returned with part duex . . .
While I've never seen it, I surely suspected there would be those to take advantage of those hi-tides ‘n get some serious surfing in. Why not, it's only one's neck at risk! <grin>
Thanx for the explanation regarding your location as related to the water - I've now gotten a better "visual" of it.
Oh but to differ, mon ami - the Can-Am Railway DOES have two operating freight lines - CP ‘n CN with two consists EACH of cars - cabooses in use as well! In fact, I'm running a CN freight now . . . But, passenger railroading is featured, with freight taking a back seat <aka: siding> to the VIA Rail ‘n Amtrak trains. <aaaaaaaaahhhhhh> No freight up on the mountain run - just no room for sidings on that point-to-point run. It's RDC territory - although the "locals" tell me "back in the day" there used to be steam hauled situational freight along the line in mixed consists of course. <grin> In fact, if one looks hard, there's evidence of a water tower on the approach to Mountain Village - but it's most times beneath the snow cover!
Whilst not directed my way, I DO agree that Fuji has a leaning toward green, whereas Kodak is red. Spot on, Mate! And I'm no Aficionado when it comes to film . . .
Most humorous ‘n revealing stuff regarding 1904 from our man in Wales! Here's a bit more insight . . .
St. Louis in 1904 was a booming city with a population heading to the million mark. Since, the city has fallen into decline <my opinion> and the population struggling to remain above 350 thousand. The surrounding counties comprise the bulk of those residing in this area of an estimated 2.8 million.
Links to the 1904 Summer Olympics in St. Louis - and - World's Fair <Louisiana Purchase Exposition>:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Summer_Olympics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase_Exposition
Many thanx for a fine set of inclusive visits - trifecta as it turned out! Also food ‘n ROUND helped to cap off the nite quite well. Had to take Juneau out just to walk if OFF! <oooooof>
Page 27 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:37 PM ‘n 11:28 PM <11:37 PM ‘n 12:28 AM Tuesday EDT>: Didn't expect to see ya, but there you were with a two-fer at that unGawdly hour. <groan>
Appears your daytrip went well, which is good. Noticed some clouds moving in to your part of the world as this most strange weather-wise year continues to set records pretty much all over the continent. I'm hoping for a whopper of a snow-fall for the winter - a whopper!
Didn't realize how huge those SD70MACs were until I got up close ‘n personal with ‘em whilst in Alaska . . . most impressive MoSheens. But ya know what They still look funky hauling passenger cars. They surely aren't designed to meld with the sleekness of passenger equipment. Oh well . . . Nice shots of the SD70 ‘n grinding car, by the by!
Surely could tell that the same architect was involved with the Goderich ‘n Brantford stations - most impressive structures! Your new camera seems to be working quite well for you as the shots came out "loud ‘n clear." Thanx for those station shots ‘n harbor facilities too!
Appreciate the visits, fotos ‘n chat!
Tuesday - September 30th:
Page 28 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 7:37 AM <9:37 AM ADT>: Nice start to our Tuesday with a visit from the Ancient Mariner himself - accent on ancient! <grin>
More wind at the bar! Well, I never . . . <grin>
Don't be too hard on yourself, Mate <oooooooops, Skipper!> you're entitled to a kick-back few days <daze> to do as you please. Adjust to the shoreside, or something like that! <grin>
Don't take this the wrong way - but it's a shame that you aren't availing yourself of travel to Toronto by train. It's a great trip 'n in spite of my utter disdain for those Renaissance cars - if there's still a Budd Park Car at the tail end . . . then you'd have a dome as far as Montréal. Change of trains is a piece of cake as the corridor trains to Toronto are plentiful 'n often. BUT, it IS expensive - no doubt about it, very expensive <especially if you booked the BEST of bedrooms 'n VIA1 for the corridor>. But, what the heck - spend that money before your kids do! <grin> Did note that you'll at least have a short haul by train in your itinerary . . . so there's HOPE for ya!
See comments to Rob regarding the SD70s . . .
If you ever follow thru on your "threat" to pay a call in these parts, I KNOW you'd love the StL MoT <Kirkwood> - it's chock full o' steamers, some in fine looking shape, others awaiting - but chock full. Lisa 'n Carol would find plenty of things to do whilst we enjoyed the museum 'n of course a great hobby shop in Kirkwood! Sounds like a plan, eh Always welcome - just provide a head's up. We're not good at last minute stuff . . . <grin>
Many thanx for the visit, chat 'n of course the business! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Morning Coffee with an extra to take the nip out of the air if yopu please!
And I'll have the Early morning Fisherman's special with Poached and Beans and a side order of hash browns
siberianmo wrote:I see Fergie made it back with a rather selective round of comments. Hopefully all of the fine efforts put up at the bar by our erstwhile crew 'n Proprietor <since your last visit> will wind up being viewed . . .
I see Fergie made it back with a rather selective round of comments. Hopefully all of the fine efforts put up at the bar by our erstwhile crew 'n Proprietor <since your last visit> will wind up being viewed . . .
I know I know... short of the mark as I was trying to get in an extra lick but as I said homework is a priority around here and with only the one computer that's that! Besides yesterday was one of those "Flub" days. Flubbed around the place tinkering here, sighing there a real fiddle and fart affair. Though I did get most of the main outer curve nailed down. That leaves 3 mores lines to be laid.
Eric and Tom: As for Kyle... I think more wind is generated around the bar on a Friday night then Kyle provided in these parts! Mind you Canso is still without power and there was some flooding in Yarmouth as the tide surge was a foot higher than normal. Flooding was a result of heavy local rains.
Eric: Mine is not to run and hide during a storm, rather to ride it out and hang on for dear life! Personaly I'd rather hide, saying that Both Lisa and I had the yard tied down before Kyle's arrival. The winds off of Banquereau Bank (200 nms to sea) were clocked at 140 kph, which is roughly 75 mph... Land is good!
Shane: The CV in Colour is my 5th book in the Morning Sun repetoire. Really good books with excellent pics and story line. Now I have to decide which one I want next.
Tom: Good article on the 70's! Not sure if it's SD 60 or 70's used in this neck of the woods but regardless they are a fine looking Loco. I've seen the Brazilian ones as they were being shipped from the docks about a year or so ago (wish I had my camera though I'm leary about taking pics in those areas as you don't know who'll come up and "Challenge" you). Didn't realize they ran on a wider guage than the NA standard... Interesing! Also enjoyed offerings of the Museum, quite a large collection.
Rob: Enjoyed further offerings of the Stations in your area. It's nice to see they never got torn down. As to our rendezvous I'll have a better idea this weekend after plans are better finalized. We have about 5 days to see family and friends, which includes an over-nighter in Kingston (We're taking the train!) So it will be a real Barn Stormer of a trip.
Nick: Wwhhaaaat? Speak up son I can't here ya from all that R@R music. Ahhhh that's better Now if you really want to stir up the neighbourhood try the Bagpipes as they don't have volume control and are sure to raise the dead or dieing. Georges actually has two locations in Toronto. The original that was on Mount Pleasant road that as a child could never get to (probably a good thing) and the one up in Richmond Hill along the CN Mainline off of Young St. where I spent many days as a youth taking pictures of trains.
Pete: Have a good time in the Old Country and behave! hope to see many new pics upon your safe arrival home.\
Anyway I suspect today will be like yesterday a lot of phone calls and nothing of any substance accomplished
All right Leon. I'm back for one final refill then I'm calling it a night.Here is the first batch 'o' shots from today's daytrip.No ships in the harbour so we missed out on that , but that wasn't the end of the world.
Two shots of the CN / VIA station ( ex Grand Trunk ) at Stratford Ontario first shots from accross the parking lot second shot is the freight shed end of the station.The station building is separated from the frieght shed by an open breezway just like the Brantford station ( same architect ) We stopped in Stratford on our way through to Goderich.
Goderich's classic Witches hat CP station located right down by the harbour.The CP's trackage was pulled out in 1987.The building is owned by the city and is used by their Parks commision,they are currently doing some restoration work on the building.
CN's ( ex Grand Trunk ) station accross the harbour from the CPR. No passenger trains go to goderich now but teh sattion and it's yards are used as the head qaurters by rial America's Goderich and Exeter shortline that operates ex CN trackage from Goderich back into Guelph Ontario. Salt, farm equipment, feed and grain are the lifeblood of the area.
The smaller of the two Goderich Harbour elevators ! the larger one's on the North side of the bay.
Siftflo salts loading facility on the harbour pier.
More tomorrow
Good evening Leon,I see that Nick's been by with that *** purple money but what the heck it's spendable .Just a Keith's for me my lad thanks so much.
Tom-Great info on the SD70 series,a well done series of locomotives,the current ACE'sand M-2's are keeping the venerable EMD afloat ( just barely )At least all the horribleness that was the 90 series are gone now .Here's a shot of an SD70M-2 of the CN that I caught in Toronto six or seven month's ago.
Loved the shots from the MOT as well.Some good looking sssteam there
Shane-Was in with his usual aplomb today.I aggree that Ikea can be pricey but I find that the stuff is more than servicable ( haven't had any difficulties with our stuff from them yet )The TTC had several home built rebuilt service cars as well,always cheaper to convert surplus cars to snow scrappers or or grinding casr than to just scrap them.
This grinding car was once a double ended passenger car,it and all it's sisters were turned into snowscrappers or grinding cars once their revenue days were done.Most lasted a further 20-30 years than they otherwise would have.
Pete-So your trusting the black bag again Could be scarry mate lets hop it spares the old 35mm,I would hate for you to have to sketch the sights from your trip to share with us.Lets see was that a cubist or impressionist version of the Tour of London
That's not a cover it's a winterization hatch,keeps the engine air warm in the deep deep cold of the original Quebec winters that loco had to endure.
Eric-You may have DNA samples but the one's you have are of H&H and Vito and his boyz <uh oh > I wouldn't use any of them for anything,you know how Vito reacts to such things.
That thermomiter shot should make Tom happy
We don't run year round we used to have a coupel Christmas shows the last two weekends in November but the logistics and expence of keeping cars heated and the track clear outways the gate revenue.We did use TP11 and our sweeper to clear snow but they make neat displays and passeneger cars on the spaecial occation days during the summer.
Fergie-Keep me in the loop if you guys can meet up with us that woukld be great The York Durham has some neat equipment at the time those loco's were the entire roster.
Nick-A couple neat shots from the shed,looking good as always Hmm don't remember selling any tyre irons however the customer description sounds like a few of our regulars Neat reading your trivia question as to an answer I haven't the foggiest so I'll sit back and watch and wait.
O.K then-its trivia time-Now this is all received wisdom from a T.V program over here-but is assumed to be well researched-1902 (or so) Olympics-St Louis-The Marathon-(Leon-another round please-the typing may take a while.........)
Of the first 4 competitors over the line,3 were disqualified-2 for dosing themselves with strychnine (apparently a performance enhanching drug) and the other for driving more than half of the course-another finalist-the first African ever to compete-had to run an extra 2 k`s because he was chased by a dog...................Apparently,he was a mail man and was forced to run in uniform-although apparently he cut the legs off of his trousers
In those days cricket was an olympic sport-Britain took the gold-the only opposition was the French team-made up of staff from the British embassy in Paris......
If this isn`t true-it certainly ought to be....-Info taken from the B.B.C prog. `Q.I`,hosted by Stephen Fry
Have a nice day now ......
Honest-I couldn`t make this up
Right then-got through the first bit-and please bear in mind this is a catch-up from last wednesday or similar-----Leon,this situation calls for the special rum and an extra crate of the good Czech lager if you please-possibly some snacks also-lets try some tapas tonight-always an interesting experience........
O.K-got something for everybody here ( I think) :-
TOM-Tides-happened to see a snippet on T.V the other night about the Severn estuary-believe they have about a 13 metre tide-on a shallow estuary,into a narrow river mouth,hence the Severn Bore.....people surf the wave many miles up river-is quite a sight I`m told,-indeed have seen film of it..most impressive.
Milford Haven is a very deep but narrow anchorage-very little room for manoeuvre-see `Sea Empress` some years ago (Missisnick was heavily involved in co-ordinating the clean-up operation ) We are several miles up-river and is mostly water up to the back door stuff for those that live on the shore (we are a good 10 metres above that) but nothing to worry about ( yet )
Some cracking pix from the M.O.T-have yet to study them at length ,but will do-they deserve no less
And whilst we are on the subject-the Can-Am run-by shots were first class -dont care what you say,the Can-Am needs a steady source of freight income-grain to the Mentor Brewery,boxcars out again,coal or oil for power...............A T.O.F.C transfer point,regular car loads to the two yards.....................-Before you know it you will be running a daily trip freight.......
SHANE-Remember autos over here are smaller meeker little things-anything that can do 0-60 in less than a paragraph is a source of wonderment.....would LOVE to sit out on the porch with you and the K9 sipping a long bottle and listening to Django ,Oscar Peterson or anything else you cared to share and watch the evening westbound haul up the valley
R.E the Littluns,have discovered the best approach is not to be the nasty grown up giving out grief-just try and remember what its like to be that age ,go with the flow and try and make sure lil` Lulu doesn`t get trampled on in the rush ( but it is nice when bedtime comes around )-AHHH-MY time now......................
Loved the `Monster Heads ` tale-could see it happening ---B.T.W-received wisdom is :-Kodak film favours red tints,Fuji favours greens-any thoughts ..?
FERGIE-Glad to see you back on dry land-hope it was a good trip-quick note if you are heading down to TO looking for L.H.S-Apparently Georges Trains have moved-may be useful,maybe not.........
PETE-Thanks for the notes on C/C livery,see below.....R.E Landore-have seen pix from back in the day when the only thing missing was `Kings`-very sad.....The black bag.........Q:-what should you do if you see an unattended bag on a station platform..?..A:-Offer to buy her a coffee-it could be the start of something wonderful...........Rhyl-will try and pair up your pix with mine (the old Bassett-Lowke engines) and see what we get......
ROB-Welcome back from the twilight zone-who would have thought there were that many Ontarians midnight shopping for cigarette papers,chocolate and `shiny things`.........Ahhh-Happy days....Also-6`4" tattooed monsters bying tyre irons at 3am is not normal retail practice......Fine pix B.T.W- principal thing with the digi-cam is to remember the half -second delay between pressing the button and the pic being made-been caught a few times with that
got a whole shed full of blurs...............
ALLAN-Thanks for info R.E C/C coach stock-suspect it was to put a `corporate` livery on those beautiful Gresley teaks
ERIC-Cant find anything specific that needs answering,so please let me buy you a steak a la Paris and a few Tuborgs and you can teach me all about driving big electric motors back in the old country
O.K. guys-that looks like me for the night,If anybody is interested I got the roof closed up today (ahead of the rain) and in my (self imposed) lunch break also managed to service a half dozen locos that the timetable will need (my own fault-what started as a test run has very quickly turned into a full session-13 seperate trains,38 movements (including the locals which run several times in a session)...will list the trains (with pix) later,if anybody is interested).........
O.K guys,sleep well,PETE-have a safe journey,if the gods will it,we will meet up in Brum.........
Sleep well guys........
Good evenig Captain Tom and all present!!
Yes, Leon a ham sandwich would be just right. A cold Keith's, please!
Hmm, I just discovered Tom sneaking around inside here. I don't know who he is looking for.
Allan – Sorry about the links, they were supposed to show the pictures and I changed it later. So there is a date set for the IKEA opening? Maybe just in time for Christmas? That’s when they opened the one here in the Valley. Nick – Hope you are feeling better after your hard landing last week!Your layout looks real nice! Looking forward to more photos ! Interesting!Rob – I don’t think you should mention anything about DNA in the Penthouse Suite. People might start asking questions. But I have a good collection of DNA samples!How much trackage do you have at the museum? Interesting snowplow, TP11! Is the museum open in the winter so you have to use the TP11?You certainly have a good collection of work equipment at the museum! Car 45 looks brand new!Nice looking Alco’s! I understand that the last one, ex CN RSC14 does not belong to the York Durham RY. Tom – I didn’t see that you are here as well! I’ll buy you a drink!The snakes will come back and hit hard! Very hard!! I have another snowy picture I found last night. I’ll scan it and show it tomorrow. Brunettes in that town? All I can say is that the brunette used to live there!I also hope I have bought my last car. It is four years old tomorrow and it should last many more years. Time for a visit to the Emporium again! The Sting with Paul Newman is a must after his passing last week. Never heard about The Patch though. Thanks for the info on the EMD SD70’s! It’s an impressive locomotive.Nice photos from the museum! I never saw that little switcher, “I think I can”! Is it something they have received lately or has it been hiding somewhere?
Celsius!
CM3 – I have too many pictures with snow, but showing some of them will keep the Captain happy! I can understand if it is costly for you to go to Pittsburgh to buy something from IKEA. Especially with the gas prices of today. Do you have any trouble getting gas in your area? Fergie – I thought you were taking cover someplace for the hurricane coming your way! I don’t remember its name right now, but the maps have been showing it aiming for Halifax! Pete – The orange livery is very visable in daylight. What Thomas is saying? In Swedish? I don’t know, I have to liste to him and come back tomorrow!The RTLs were fixed in about 30 minutes so it wasn’t a big delay. The track we were traveling was limited to 15 MPH long stretches.
A round for the house!
UP Mountain #7000 4-8-2 <GNU Free Documentation>
Not a rush at the bar today, but sufficient to provide an evening's round of Acknowledgments . . .
Monday - September 29th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 27 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:15 AM <10:15 AM>: A fine Monday visit from our Resident WVA Connection - covered the bases well. Speaking of which, Cards finished 10 games over - a far better record than the Dodgers who won their western division. Something wrong with this "system" . . . oh well. Not saying that the Redbirds deserved to be "in" - but neither do teams so close to .500. <barf>
Foo-ball Watched only the 1st half of the Lambs <aka: Rams> ‘n was surprised the Bills didn't steamroll ‘em right away. Kept waiting for the other shoe to drop - it did in the 2nd half. And I turned down the job offer - have to stick around here in case my basement wall springs a leak - at least until the contracting gets done! <grin> Then I think I'm going to be busy walking Juneau . . . Priorities, priorities.
As has been noted, some of the exhibits at StL MoT were indeed moved since Rendezvous III . . . seems to be a "thing," as each time I visit that place there's something not where it was the last time. Hmmmmmm.
Many thanx for your inclusive comments, ROUND ‘n quarters!
Page 27 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 1:52 PM <3:52 PM ADT>: Surprise afternoon visit from our wind-blown friend in Nova Scotia. I gathered you weathered the latest big wind ‘n presume all's well at your digs. Reports from mum-in-law at the far end of Bedford Basin said all's well . . . <phew>
Spending rainy days tearing apart the M.E.S.S. layout ‘n the good ones either harvesting the garden or making ready for the winter, eh I've pretty much given up on helping the garden - a rather good sized plot - as the deer have been frequenting the yard in 4s ‘n 5s . . . would have to build a 6 ft fence to keep ‘em out! <geesh> Lots of wild life in these parts, in spite of the development. Which is the CAUSE for the wildlife in subdivisions. <sad> They have to eat too.
Not much more to say other than you're a hard man to please - all of that material ‘n so little said. <groan> Guess it just doesn't flick your Bic . . . does with the <GoR> however, ‘n THAT keeps my motivation "up"!
Have noticed you've been racking up the numbers <Posts> on the daily tally - guess you're trying to make up for lost time. Remember, no more STARS! <grin>
Catch ya later . . .
Page 27 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:37 PM: Many thanx for touching all the bases with your < I3 > Post - including my offerings! Much appreciation for ALWAYS making sure there's recognition for those who make this place OURS!
Yeah, I wondered what in the world happened to you today - then it occurred to me that it's MONDAY - you're hardly ever here early on MONDAY - hardly ever. Not never - but hardly ever! <grin> Just the way it is - give you a day off <Sunday> ‘n you streeeeeeeetch it as far as possible. That's WHY we are not "organized" ‘n NOT in need of a Shop Steward! <geesh>
Cameras don't simply stop functioning because they get old . . . technology may overtake ‘em - but I doubt they won't do the job. It's a matter of mastering the technology, Mate - gotta learn . . . <ooooooooh> One thing about digitals is NOT to get carried away with how many mega-pixels a camera may reach . . . it's most times a gimmicky thing for those of us who simply take fotos for either storage on a ‘puter or disk OR making 4x6 inch copies. Mega-pixels in the hi-range generally mean more to the professionals and those enlarging to large ‘n larger sizes . . . something to study up on before getting overly impressed. ‘nuf of that . . .
Regarding the book from amazon.com - I seriously doubt that you'll have any problems in getting a copy. They aren't going to run out any time soon. But, knowing your skepticism, you can always have it sent to me . . . BUT keep in mind that there IS NO ANTICIPATED DELIVERY DATE yet . . . I ordered it 'n they'll notify me when it's ready to ship. That's the way it works. Again, you can always send it to my address or simply wait 'til you return from Merry Olde.
Get here BEFORE noon on Tuesday 'n you may have that breakfast . . . <grin>
Appreciate your visit <albeit LATE> ‘n the ROUND!
Page 27 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:10 PM <12:10 AM Tuesday GMT>: "In" with good chat ‘n a foto spread more suited for our Wednesdays -but appreciated nonetheless!
Hope things have worked themselves out in your favor regarding that fall from the roof. <ouch>
Email received ‘n appreciated. Responded to one . . .
ROUND appreciated ‘n have you really checked the price of cashews lately <uh oh>
Good evening cherubs-I trust we are all in the best of health,Leon-here is another of those strange purple £20 banknotes for ale for the company-although as Vito is a licensed international currency dealer you might prefer 247 million Zimbabwean dollars instead-it works out about the same ,give or take a bag of cashews................
Just a quick bookmark whilst I start yet another marathon catch-up (remind me to get back to marathons later-R.E the 1902 (?) St Louis Olympics-definately one for the end of the post.....)
Notes:- TOM-E/M recd & resp -DAN-likewise (copied to TOM & PETE)
PETE-Saw brief mention of `Waddon` as page was loading-synchronicity at work-Waddon ( a small marshy place west of Croydon) was on the route of the Surrey Iron Rly,of recent mention....spooky or what
Right-ahead of the S&D fantrip that will be upcoming (who needs Sherman Hill when you can have the glorious Mendips ) heres a couple from the train shed:-
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The old order and the new-an ex-Caledonian `pug` (closest I have to a Y9 PETE ) next to a Beyer -Peacock `Hymek` outside Hamworthy quay shed-std class 2 prairie lurking in shed-giant insect lurking in yard office
And so on to top shed-Bath (coded 82F at this time ) -have only just realised ,most of these models are almost as old as the prototypes they represent:-from front,ex-L.M.S 3f tank,40/45 years old-ex G.W tank-30 years old,ex L.M.S 3f-40/45 years,ex G.W `King`,27 years old,ex G.W. `Hall`,30+ years old.........and all still giving good service with original motors-gawd bless Tri-Ang/Hornby-toys to last a lifetime........-At rear of shot:-Cardiff-Bournemouth express cars on new carriage siding and coke wagons on gasworks spur--apologies for `glare`-is the curse of late night flash photography
Right-off to do my homework-back soon
A busy Saturday evening and Sunday at the bar so a round please RUTH.
TOM Your go on the Caption Competition made me thanks.
Trust me to get in too late for the free breakfast in honor for me.
Great selection for the Random Photos. I see Stepney's sister Waddon is in the background of CNR # 6153 in photo 2. In photo #5 it has really captured the size of the Big Boy.
Did they give you a proposed delivery date when you ordered The Call of Trains book. I would hate to order it and have no one here when it arrives. That really is a great photo on the cover.
I still have a few 35mm films left so I will take that camera over with me this time. I think the digital I had in Canada is getting quite old now. There seem to be some good reasonably priced digitals on the market just now.
Thanks for the kind words and glad you enjoyed the photos.
It is great the Darts Challenge is well subscribed; being an alternate during the match will give one a chance to recover.
Two great films on at the Emporium this week. I have seen both and it will be good to see them again. The Sting is one of my all time favorite films with great theme tune. Paul Newman was a fine actor. Then of course the Stooges.
Many thanks for the Featured Locomotives the EMD SD 70 series. It seems a very successful design. It seems some railroads stay loyal to the DC traction motors while others are going for the AC version. I see the remaining fleet of UP's 6,000HP SD 90s are being sent to East St Louis for scrapping. I believe some of this class of locomotives were converted to SD 70s some time ago.
Enjoyed the photos from our visit to the MOT. Reading the sign I did not realize the 2-8-0 was the most popular wheel arrangement in the US for mainline use, interesting valve gear as well. TRRA # 318 is looking in good condition. It would be good if one of the regulars has some information on the museum switcher.
ERIC Many thanks for the link to # 588. I guess with the orange livery there is no need for a yellow panel on the ends. It is amazing how electric motors have increased in power for the same size in the last few decades.
I can't think of any other locomotives that had corridor tenders than some of the LNER A3s to start with and then the A4s. Tom and I walked through the corridor tender of A4 Dominion of Canada at ExpoRail where they have provided steps at the tender and the cab.
Any idea what ‘Thomas' is saying, perhaps in Swedish and Tom can translate.
Enjoyed the random photos, like the V60, was the RTLs delayed long before they were fixed.
ALLAN Yes Newcastle need Kevin, saw some highlights and the Toon weren't very good at all in the first half but played a lot better in the second but not enough to win, the interim manager may get them going a bit I hope.
Glad you enjoyed the photos of the A4 and the GW locomotives. At Rugby we used to see ex LNER, GW and LMS locomotives quite regularly on the old Great Central line and LMS and rarely a LNER B1 on the LMS line though the town. The SR locomotives sometimes worked to Banbury on cross-country trains for the GC but Oxford was a better place to see locos from all 4 regions at one time.
Thanks for the go on the caption competition, a good one now that smoking as been banned in all public buildings in Britain now.
Have a good trip. Many thanks for the good wishes for a Bon Voyage. Hoping I can find a kind library so I can look in at the bar.
NICK Sounds like a very strange gig at the wedding, reminded me of an old joke about too deaf old dears at a Workingman's Club when the band was announced after the bingo, unfortunately I can't repeat it on the forum. Great to have the layout to recover with and beer certainly helps as well.
Thanks for the twenty and glad no lasting ill effects from the roof incident.
ROB Many thanks for the kind words on the photos. I think the black bag is looking forward to carry another camera across the pond; hopefully it will bring it back again as well.
Many thanks for the photos. I bet those night events at the museum are really great and I thought the snow really adds to the atmosphere. Enjoyed the photos of the work cars.
Interesting ALCOs on the York Durham Rly, is that a cover on the roof of # 22.
Have a good trip today.
CM3 Many thanks for kind wishes on my trip. The two shunters Walrus and Carpenter were replaced at the Park Royal Guinness brewery by two ex BR class 08s, they named them LION and UNICORN, both are now preserved.
I think the preserved 08 Haversham was named after a small village near Bletchley where 08011 was shedded, for a few years it was the oldest 08 in BR service and a depot favorite. Charles Dickens visited Rugby I don't think he was too impressed reading the short story Mugby Junction.
Glad you liked the photos. Just hoping they don't put the black bag in quarantine when I enter the UK.
FERGIE Hope the effects of KYLE were not severe in your area, better to be on land than at sea in that weather.
Well RUTH a bit late againso I had better get another round in.
As always, I'll reserve further commentary ‘til my next round of acknowledgments . . . but DO appreciate an appearance by one of our irregulars during these times of absences . . .
Time for another spate o' RANDOM FOTOS from The Proprietor ‘n Bar Chandler of a couple of weeks ago . . .
Rule of Six Suspended <by one>!
(1) Illinois Central #764 2-8-0 "Consolidation" at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
(3) Terminal Railroad #318 0-8-0 switcher at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
(6) Museum Switcher <no further ID> at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and Crew
Me thinks the Press Gang must have been through these parts as good hands are getting thin in the ranks!
Just means more goodies for moi! Missed Brekkie this a.m. though I did peak in so I might as well grab a mug of yer finest and a heaping plate of Fries covered in beans! \
I've been busy with Lisa's "the" Ta-do list today but managed to get into the "Wreck" room to do some work on the layout. This is a bigger project than orig... Ahhh who am I trying to kid! This is a painstaking rebuild but it had to be done!
Rob: more lovely pics! Didn't realize the Durham Railway had so many engines. To tell you the truth I really don't know much about this small unique RR. Mentioned to Lisa about seeing you possibly. We do have a side trip to Brampton to see her brother so if our paths do cross it will be for an hour at best.
Shane: Bidding sounds like it has merits as it would insure that you keep current with training and certification and I'm all for that as there is nothing worse then someone sitting on there laurels and getting in you way as far as career aspirations.
Anyhow I'm getting da boo from son #1, something about homework... he's right it does take priority! I might as well go back to CNN (Crisis News Network, The scariest news in town)
Good to see our friend SHANE come thru in his morning "slot"!
Something from the sub-basement archives for this suddenly gloomy Monday - a front has roared in to mid-continent USA bringing dark skies 'n threatening weather . . . So, time to think about more pleasant matters!
Featured Locomotives #2
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EMD SD70 series
Caveat: Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements.
Two UP SD70M locomotives refueling at Dunsmuir, California - 2004 <GNU Free Documentation - foto credit: Eric Guinther>
Power type: Diesel
Builder: General Motors Electro-Motive Division, now Electro-Motive Diesels (EMD)
Build date: 1992 - present
Total production: over 3,000
AAR wheel arr.: C-C
The EMD SD70 is a series of diesel-electric locomotives produced by General Motors Electro-Motive Division from 1992 to the present. Over 2000 locomotives in this series have been produced, mostly of the SD70M and SD70MAC models. All locomotives of this series are hood units with C-C trucks. The majority of the SD70M and SD70MAC models were produced with 4000 horsepower (2,980 kW) EMD Model 710 prime movers, while later production SD70MACs are rated at 4300 horsepower (3,210 kW). The SD70ACe and SD70M-2 are rated at 4,300 horsepower each.
Models
GM-EMD has produced several different models in the SD70 series for different customer requirements.
SD70
The SD70 is the low-nose model of the series, foregoing the larger new comfort cab for the smaller standard or spartan cab common on older locomotives. This model also has DC traction motors which simplify the electrical system by cutting out the need for computer-controlled inverters. 120 examples of this model locomotive were produced, only for Norfolk Southern, Conrail and Illinois Central. (Conrail was partly absorbed by Norfolk Southern in 1999, and all 24 of Conrail's SD70 engines were acquired by NS.) The standard cab was phased out in 1999 and production of the basic SD70 ended.
SD70M
The SD70M has a wide nose and a large comfort cab, allowing more crew members to ride comfortably inside of the locomotive than the older standard cab designs. Like the SD70, the SD70M also uses DC traction motors. Starting in mid-2000, the SD70M was produced with SD45-style flared radiators exhibiting a new exhaust system due to the enaction of the EPA's Tier I environmental regulations. The SD70M was replaced by the SD70M-2 in late 2004, as the EPA's Tier II went into effect on January 1st, 2005. 1,646 examples of this model locomotive were produced. Purchasers included Union Pacific, Southern Pacific (now UP), CSX, Norfolk Southern and Santa Fe (now BNSF).
A Norfolk Southern SD70M passes through Hair in Dalton, Georgia. <GNU Free Documentation - Jason Trew Photo>
This locomotive model is also being built for export. Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (CVRD) in Brazil has ordered 27 of this model for service in Carajas pulling trainloads of iron ore. Since CVRD track is gauged at 1600 mm, a wider bogie was designed for these units by EMD.
CVRD SD70M #714 <courtesy: www.wikipedia.com>
SD70MAC
The SD70MAC is much like the SD70M. The main difference is that the SD70MAC uses AC traction motors. AC motors, while more simple and reliable than DC motors, require substantially more expensive inverters to generate a variable-frequency AC signal. The SD70MAC is no longer produced due to EPA regulations and has been replaced by the SD70ACe. 1,124 examples of this model locomotive were produced. Purchasers include Burlington Northern (now BNSF), Conrail (engines now owned by CSX), CSX, TFM/Kansas City Southern and the Alaska Railroad.
SD70MAC locomotives at Anchorage, Alaska, June 1st, 2006 <personal foto>
SD70I
The SD70I is a version of the SD70M which has been fitted with a cab that is isolated from the frame of the locomotive with shock absorbers (officially known as a 'North American Safety Cab', unofficially known as the 'Comfort Cab' - designed and built in EMD's London, Ontario, Canada shops). The isolation gives the crew in the cab a smoother ride. A seam is visible across the nose and on the long hood where the cab connects with the body. Due to EPA regulations, the SD70I is no longer produced. 26 examples of this model locomotive were produced, all for Canadian National.
SD70Ace
The SD70ACe is basically the SD70MAC updated to meet the latest EPA regulations for road locomotives, but several other changes were included as well. The radiator on the locomotive is nearly as wide as the cab, and looks similar to the radiator on the SD90 series of locomotives. The nose has been modified to provide parts compatibility with contemporary GE locomotives, producing a much more angular nose than previous models. The cables and brake lines have been routed beneath the walkways, allowing for easy access by maintenance workers. As of 2005, 185 examples of this model locomotive have been produced. Purchasers include Union Pacific, BNSF, CSX, Montana Rail Link, Kansas City Southern, and Ferromex.
This locomotive model is also being produced for export. In 2004, BHP Billiton of Australia ordered 14 SD70ACe/lc locomotives for use in iron ore hauling; the "lc" in the model designation stands for "low clearance" as these locomotives are designed to negotiate the tight clearances under the mine equipment.
BHP (Billiton Iron Ore Pty. Ltd., Australia) SD70Ace/1c <courtesy: www.wikipedia.com>
SD70M-2
The SD70M-2 is GM-EMD's DC traction version of the SD70ACe, and the two models are nearly identical in every other respect. As of 2006, 130 examples of this model locomotive have been produced. Examples are owned by Norfolk Southern and Canadian National.
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