What ho dear-lovely pic of the H/West north end of the yard -when it was still working ...
One from a great sequence-including some fine shots of Milford when it was still a principal destination..........
Oh yes-the reason I attend to other business first is so that this place is top of the list........
G'day Gents!
And Sir Nick is trying his level best to convince . . . <grin>
Okay, here's the TEST . . . name the FIRST customer of "Our" Place . . . <dee dee dee dee, dum, dum, dum, dum, de dum de dum de dum>
Gee, I wonder where that might be . . . hmmmmmm URL for the original bar, perhaps Hmmmmmm. Wonder where to find that <grin>
Looking forward to resumption of activity - bring it on, Mate!
RR BOOK RELAY 2008! can be mailed at any time you're ready - just ship me an Email when it "flies" . . .
Tom
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Pete. Some great memories of your escapades` at the Midland Bus garage at Rugby on your train spotting trips there. Interesting start of the BR Diesel Hydralic Western names` with the 1st 10 names`. Did`nt see the Coventry v Toon game live but will watch the replay, it was a close game by all accounts with the Toon winning 3-2. Nice couple of pix of the SFS RR loco and the loco at St Louis Union Station. We get a few shakes` here as we are on the edge of the Pacific plate, that 5.9 one was`nt as strong as the quake that did a lot of damage to Gisborne at Xmas time last year.
Nick. Great to see you mate. Sounds as if you`ve been having a heck of a time with all those gigs` and the other happenings`, hope things get back to normal for you soon.
Tom. It was great to reminisce with you about those great old Saturday movie shows`, we were very lucky to have lived in that era that's for sure. We fly back from Aussie on Sept 10th and then we are spending four more days` with the family in Auckland and driving back home on Sept 14th. Will keep an eye on the e-mail situation when I can, it looks as if I will have a heck of a lot of catching up to do on all the posts` over the 14 day period that i`m away for. A fine Passenger Train Nostalgia #15 on the C&O RR with the Drumhead selection, and another great set of pix of your Dallas RDC adventure. A fine Haverford station pic for Nick, and the nice BR Penzance poster as well, could`nt see any "Pirates`" on the beach though. It`s a good job we`ve got a frame house built to the NZ quake specifications for this area, we have no brickwork or concrete footings to worry about either.
See ya, Allan
Well good evening Leon, a rather large round of the hard stuff for everyone if you don't mind. Been a day and a half at work let me tell you , the kind of days ( daze ) that make you wonder why we do it oh well good to eb back amongst friends.
Tom-Some fine photo spreads from Dallas , there's a couple there that I don't remember the shots with the personel in them in the maintenance facility, still I'll aggree with Pete one heck of a well lit well maintained facility
Good info on the C&O as well , slow or not makes it all worth the while around this here place.
Pete-In with a couple well placed and timed posts today interesting loocmotive names sir
Allan-I'm glad you enjoyed the mail service bit and the photo's That mail piesce was from way back in bar number one, a page in the mid 400's ( hmmm ) everything went to pot after that <grrr> but a rant for another time. Back then we put together theme days , Tom's was from the same span of posts, thankfully you can still go back and read enjoy those days (daze) of yore here at the bar.
Eric-Was in yesterday with aphoto and some greetings. What a guy a daylight post from half way around the world, there's commitment for you
Shane- We'll keep the light son for you, hopefully the fumes and danger from them passes quickly for you guys.
Nick-He's back in Nick form at that. Boris can now call off the critters. Artie had been flying out and back serch runs trying to sight you, and Tex and Awk were keeping tabs on the Zep sheds. I think even H&H were a bit unsettled by your absence,that or it's something they ate.At any rate it's good to have our wildman from Wales back
Fergie-A quick stop in ,good to see you again.It may be a good thing your headed back to sea, continued wins on ebay can cause problems translated more honey-do chores. ( does around my place anyway ) If Tom does get aboard one of your cruises, just don't let him talk you into becomming a high seas pirate with him ( unless of coarse the plunder is shared equally here at the bar )
Rob
<CP #2928 (4-4-4) Jubilee - personal foto from Rob>
Wednesday's Witticism
If you'd like to know a man, find out what makes him mad.
Mid-week once again in mid-continent! You know the routine - so let's get a leg up on starting your day with our breakfasts, pastries ‘n coffee!
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Comments from the Proprietor
<GoR> PLANNED ABSENCES:
(1) Eric is in Sweden ‘til week after next . . .
(2) Allan leaves for Aussie-land on Sunday ‘n will be gone for 2 weeks . . .
(3) Rob will be gone for the last week of September . . .
(4) Pete will be gone for the month of October . . .
I'm not planning to change the "You Post, I Post" idea . . . so, I expect we'll be in the doldrums for quite some time during the daylite hours.
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Tuesday - August 26th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 12 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:57 AM: Ye Gads! A throwback to the days <daze> when we had Pages ‘n Pages of nothing but more of the same - names ‘n numbers ad nauseam! <arrrrgggggghhhhh> BUT, you at least restricted yours to 10! How considerate - how civil - how very nice of you, Mate! <grin> Good names to ponder - now we need a foto for EACH!
Figured between using the Disk Cleanup ‘n Disk Defrag that you'd experience some relief from your ‘puter problems.
Let's hope our September Rendezvous works out . . . as discussed by fone, I'm flexible - just waiting for the confirmation from you!
Nope, the trip up to Fairbanks ‘n return was hardly anything resembling a journey made for fun. Was simply a means to get to where we THOUGHT "things" were happenin' . . . then the looooooooong return to Anchorage for the flight to Kodiak ‘n our ship. Nah, wasn't at all what it would've been had I been "into it" as now. Just young ‘n stupid . . .
A definite "boost" having you pick things up in the AM!
Page 12 - Pete <pwolfe> at 1:39 PM: Back "in" with some fotos, chat ‘n a ROUND! You do "wonder" the most wondrous of things! <grin>
Had never heard of the Santa Fe-Southern Railway, a tourist "thing" - as you said. Anyway, nice looking livery! Different, fer sure, fer sure. A link:
http://www.sfsr.com/
St. Louis Car Company switcher ‘n background cars bring to mind how quickly all of that was dispatched from Union Station.
Pages 12-13 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:13 PM ‘n 7:44 PM ‘n 7:49 PM ‘n 7:56 PM ‘n 8:01 PM <1:13 AM - 1:44 AM - 1:49 AM - 7:56 AM - 2:01 AM Wednesday GMT>: <phew> Our Wandering Minstrel ‘n Keeper of the Galley has returned to the bar in form only known to those of us who have followed the Expolits of Nick!
Rather than try to hi-lite the high-lights - read ‘em yourself! <grin>
Page 13 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:54 PM <4:54 PM Wednedsday NZ time>: Gone ‘til mid-September, eh You'll surely be missed ‘round here . . . <groan> BUT, just keep the Tui coming ‘n perhaps you can arrange to have it "escorted" by a bevy of those Brewery Gals! <pant> <pant>
Perhaps you can scour up an Aussie customer for "Our" Place!
Best any of us can do is to help ourselves as much as possible when it comes to reducing the chance of damage due to quakes, etc. None of it is a guarantee, so I guess it's just another example of this crap shoot we call life, eh
One day we'll visit Penzance - if for no other reason than to say we were where that great G&S production supposedly took place. One of our favorites, fer sure, fer sure!
Always appreciate having you at the bar ‘n enjoy reading your comments ‘n drinking those ROUNDS! <grin>
Page 13 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:28 PM <11:28 PM EDT>: And our Manager straggled in - somewhat a bit worse for wear, but here nonetheless!
As you ‘n Pete observed, that TRE facility was immaculate, considering what goes on in there on a daily basis. It was quite a treat to have those insights, ‘n our host - Josh - was most forthcoming, informative ‘n enjoyable to be around. It was a super-fine day.
Methinks it would be laffable to take on a Pirate's trade using a CCG vessel. They aren't built for speed! <grin> But the thought is interesting . . . <grin> Seriously doubt that the port calls would be anything like those from my distant past . . . I'm too <censored> old ‘n educated to repeat some of those antics from days gone by! <uh oh>
Glad you made it "in" ‘n hope the rest of your schedule provides you with a bit of a breather between shifts. Visit, chat ‘n ROUND most appreciated!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Hi Tom and all.
The usual cup of coffee and bacon sarnie please RUTH.
TOM Many thanks for more photos from the TRE Maintenance Facility. I like the photo of the wheel set and traction motor. It seems as though you found a Dallas Pat's Place in the two photos by the looks of the mirror. The GP9s look in almost new condition. Really liked the class 120 DMU in the photo and the great Penzance poster for Nick. On one of the pubs in Penzance there is a pirate on the roof.
Yes there is only another 64 Western Names to go I will post them after 10 more of my posts, but the great thing is I will probably forget. Some one HAS written a book with a full history and a photo of all the Westerns, I believe it I called ‘Cast of Thousands'.
Just waiting for the bride to check something at work and I will let you know about our September meet.
Many thanks for the link to the SFSR, it seems the locomotives are in a different paint scheme now. My trip on the line was a surprise as the bride had booked a trip on the line and had not told me.
Yes it was a pleasant surprise to see those cars and locomotives at St Louis Union Station on my first visit there. I think they were a good attraction, but sadly, as you say, no longer there.
NICK Sounds as though you have had a real hectic time lately, it must be good to have a lot of gigs to play at though.
That really is an interesting photo on the other thread. I have spent quite a bit of time looking at it and I think I agree with you it does have a Midland Railway look to it but can't recall seeing a photo with those two pipes coming from the smokebox. At the time I believe engines were regularly rebuilt altering their appearance. Looking at the background I think it is in a station, look at the ornate roof. Do you think St Pancras or perhaps Manchester Central. I wonder if it is the latter, perhaps a Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire (forerunner of the Great Central) engine. It is a bit strange the loco does not appear to have a company name on the tender. I think at the time of the photo the MR engines were in green. I' m afraid all this is a guess on my part.
ALLAN Yes I thought the Cov v Toon was a good game looked as though the town were going to rack up a big score after going 2 up but Cov scored with the last kick of the 1st half and equalized with a header in the last play of the 2nd. Owen scored in extra time but Cov were unlucky with a shot off the post near the end. Extra time messed up my chore schedule, I see it is Nottingham Forest v Sunderland today.
Glad you enjoyed the photos and the Western names.
Apparently we are near a fault line here in Mid Missouri and there was a quake nearer Tom recently, we saw that some of the model trains in the cabinets at the Barriger library had been shaken off the shelves.
Have a great time on your visit to Australia.
ROB Sorry to hear you had a rough day at work; I remember them well.
Many thanks for the kind words on my posts, as I say to Tom I will post another ten of the Western Names when I reach post 1020 or thereabouts, if I don't forget..
Well Ruth another coffee please and hope to be back with a couple of photos.
Pete.
Another day where our Bar Chandler has 'saved the bacon' <for his sarnie, no doubt!> by providing a morning Post!
Random Stuff for our Wednesday OP-SHUN-UL Toy 'n Model Trains Day!
(1) Marx Toy Trains
(2) Ives Toy Trains
(3) 1956 American Flyer Catalog
(4) 1956 Lionel Catalog
(5) Triang-Hornby Trains from the 1960s
(6) Triang set
Totally unrelated 'n here's a URL showing a USCG cutter departing for Georgia <same class as my "last hurrah"> Totally different missions between most Coast Guard organizations . . . U.S. version has a dual peacetime/wartime mission 'n is structured as a military organization.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_re_eu/georgia;_ylt=Al0AYmfUxKjBiaZK6j00UYus0NUE
Enjoy!
A pint of Holden's Mild please RUTH on this warmest day we have had for a while.
TOM Many thanks for the photos of the Marx and Ives toy trains the great catalog covers and the Tri-ang Hornby Book Of Trains., those models look in mint condition.
I see the Tri-ang European Train catalog was for the short lived TT guage. Really like the look of that ALCO on the American Flyer catalog..
Had a look at the link showing the US Coast Guard Cutter Dallas a fine looking ship.
I have some smaller guage railways for Model Day.
At the 15" Cleethorpes Coast Light Railway in Lincolnshire is No. 24 2-6-2 in sandy River & Rangeley Lake livery. Built at Fairbourne in 1990.
HELP WANTED.Anyone with an idea where this miniature railway is. The loco seems to be named MICHAEL and it says G M R on the tender.
At the Launceston Steam Railway in Cornwall is 2Ft gauge 0-4-0 Saddle Tank Covercoat, on a wet day. A 'Quarry Hunslet' built in 1898 it worked at the Welsh Slate Quarries at Dinorwic. The LSR runs on the ex North Cornwall Railway trackbed to Newmills.
Well RUTH a round please.
G'day All!
Good to see Pete return with his foto parade!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #16
<Initially Posted on 31 Oct 2005, Page 151 at "Our" Place I>
http://cs.trains.com/forums/129/991587/ShowPost.aspx
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Budd RDC's from a 1950 advertisement found in my personal collection.
Single Car "Limited"
Here is the new railroad car which is a train in itself - the self-propelled, diesel-powered, all-stainless steel RDC-1. The Budd Company created it to perform a service both to railroads and their patrons, by carrying more passengers on short or long hauls at lower operating cost.
The RDC-1 seats ninety in air-conditioned comfort. With power transmitted hydraulically, from an effortless start it picks up speed like a whippet and stops in a fantastically short space . . . with the easy softness of pushing your hand against a pillow.
Railroad men foresee a wide usefulness for this car. It may be operated as a single unit, or a number of cars can be coupled into a train, operated by one engineman.
Improvement in any field of endeavor begins with imagination. The RDC-1 is another example of Budd practice which is first to envision clearly the need and then bring to bear all the resources of inventive engineering. It follows the modern stainless steel streamliner, the all-steel automobile body, the tapered steel disc wheel and so many other products in which Budd has translated imagination into practical accomplishment.
The Budd Company, Philadelphia, Detroit
Budd
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RDC-1 (foto credit: unknown)
RDC-1 BC-15 (courtesy: http://www.trainweb.com/ - foto credit: unknown)
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, as usual these days I am in a hurry so I'll just have a cold Tui, please!
I have about ten minutes before I have pack and get to the airport. Flying down to Stockholm today where I'll pick up a rental car and drive to Linköping, a city 130 miles south of Stockholm so I thought a short stop here at the bar is in order.
This week has been kind of rainy so I have spent most of the time indoors. Yesterday we went to an old railroad station where a steam locomotive is on display. Got some pictures but I haven' had a chance to upload them to the server yet. I had a quick look at the posts since my last visit, but I don't have time enough today for comments. Saw an interesting ad from Budd though with two nice photos of some RDC's!
I'll be back as soon as I get a chance. Tell the brunette high from me!!
A local freight train waiting for a passing EMU on a local branch outside Stockholm 1980.
Eric
Our Galley Crew reports that they're making ready to serve <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts on this next to last work day of the week! Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh - so whattayawaitinfer
Weather continues to amaze - AND Petrol is below $3.30 <rounded> . . . but with the hurricane in the Gulf, who knows what's next Anyway, we've got a GREAT forecast for the Labor Day weekend.
PLANNED ABSENCES:
add Shane's ongoing situation at work along with Fergie being back to sea, 'n it should be very evident that this is a rough time for the few remaining . . . <groan>
No changes to the "You Post, I Post" idea . . . so, I expect we'll be in the doldrums for quite some time during daylite hours.
Tuesday - August 27th: <all times Central daylite>:
Page 13 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:05 AM 'n 2:03 PM: This surely has been the week for our Bar Chandler as Sir Moderation has single handedly kept things on a roll during the daylite hours!
Rough 'n tough going at the Saloon by the Siding with all kinds of absences 'n missed opportunities . . . <groan> Saw our Canadian Maritime Mariner logged in a couple of times - but nothing for us. <groan> He did tell me <by fone> that he wasn't confident that the sat-link would be available where they're headed . . . oh well.
Surely makes me think aloud about those questions being addressed by our crew on other Threads - are those people being invited to "Our" Place Probably not.
I'd be disappointed if there wasn't at least ONE Pirate in Penzance! <grin>
Figured you'd like the Tri-ang material . . . and yes, TT gauge was shown. Recall when I porovided a run-down on that some time back Anyway, glad you enjoyed the spread.
Many thanx for your inclusive comments, fotos 'n interest in supporting the crew at "Our" Place . . .
ROUND always appreciated, of course . . .
Thursday - August 28th:
Page 13 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:25 AM <7:25 AM Swedish time>: A pleasant ‘n welcomed surprise from our Resident Desert Swede on vacation in the old country!
Very much appreciate your taking the time to drop by - and with a foto too! Fine looking cab shot, really puts us on the rails!
While we surely miss ya ‘round here, it's quite a testament to your support for "Our" Place to have dropped off THREE Posts since you departed . . . Exemplifies what I really believe - If one wants to, one WILL find a WAY!
Enjoy your time away . . .
TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Because of the weather (endless rain) the roofers have decamped until next Tuesday. So I'll be at my usual post today and tomorrow.
Let's see what we have today.
Pete was in with some interesting narrow gauge critters and some questions.
Pennsy I1 (2-10-0) first appeared in 1918.
The quality of C&O roadbed depended upon where you were. A lot of it was welded rail which rode very well, but there was stick rail on the Mountain Sub. As far as I know it's still there and in use, but I have not been over that way in quite awhile.
Your bus garage memory is a good one. Sort of like my going out and looking at RS3s and ancient coaches on the B&M. I know what you mean about stuff being gone.
Nick stopped by. Deep breaths, lad, deep breaths,
Fergie -Congratulations on the Big 6 win.
Allan - Earthquakes? All because you decided to go south? I know, Awk, he's a dangerous man!
Rob was by with comments.
Eric was in also - it sounds as though your weather has been a lot like ours; cloudy and cool.
OSP - My, that is a nice looking shop building - lot's of room and good lighting. I appreciated the C&O material as well - you'll see a lot of it at the next Rendezvous. As for the Ives cars - too much! I always liked that stuff. Also, a nice shot of the B&M RDC at North Station - lots memories.
Work safe
A "normal" morning <finally> with the return of Shane from his retreat from the people-eating-roofers <PER>! <uh oh> Good to have you back with us - but the "warning" for next week doesn't bode well for the bar - holiday Monday followed by perhaps another absence on Tuesday. <groan> BUT, we'll be happy with whatever you're able to muster up!
And so, let's see what's in the sub-basement archives room . . .
Featured Locomotives #1 PRR GG1
<Initially Posted on 16 June 2006, Page 355 at "Our" Place I>
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds and logos from other sources. Amtrak #928, a former PRR GG1, speeds through North Elizabeth, New Jersey in December, 1975 Built by: Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR), Altoona, PA Power type: Electric Build date: 1934 - 1943 Total production: 139 AAR wheel arr: 2-C+C-2 Gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) Length: 79 ft 6 in (24.23 m) Total weight: 477,000 lb (216,000 kg) Electric system: 11,000 V AC, 25 Hz Collection method: dual pantograph Engine type: quill drive Top speed: 100 mph (160 km/h) (passenger) 90 mph (144 km/h) (freight) Power output: 4,920 hp (3,660 kW) Tractive effort: 70,700 lbf (314 kN) Career: Pennsylvania Railroad, Penn Central, Amtrak Class: GG1 Locale: Northeast United States Disposition: most scrapped, several preserved in static display around the U.S. The Pennsylvania Railroad's GG1 class of electric locomotives were built between 1934 to 1943 at the PRR shops in Altoona, Pennsylvania, with a total of 139 units constructed. They remained in service with the PRR's successors until the early 1980s. The GG1 became one of the most recognized and famous classes of locomotive worldwide. Technical information The GG1s were large locomotives, 79 ft 6 in (24.23 m) long and weighing 477,000 lb (216,000 kg). The main body was a single unit formed as a bridge-truss framework and clad in welded steel plate. The driving cabs were set up high about a third of the way along the locomotive from each end for greater crew safety in an accident. A narrower section of nose in front of the cab windows enabled view forward, although the nose remained full height to carry the current-collection pantographs. The bodywork as a whole was smoothly rounded. This was mounted upon two great cast steel locomotive frames linked by a hinge at the locomotive's middle which allowed side-to-side movement. Six driving wheels (three axles) were fitted towards the center of the locomotive on each truck (twelve in total) and a four-wheeled, unpowered guiding truck was mounted toward each end. In the Whyte notation for steam locomotives, each frame comprised a 4-6-0 locomotive; in the PRR's classification system, 4-6-0s were class "G". The GG1 consisted of two such locomotive frames mounted back to back, so it was classified GG-4-6-0+0-6-4. This arrangement is called 2-C+C-2 in AAR wheel arrangement notation. Each driven axle was powered by two 410 hp (305 kW) GEA-627-A1 traction motors mounted above and to either side of the axle. Drive was through a reduction gear and a quill drive assembly. While the famous industrial designer Raymond Loewy did not design the shape of the GG1 electric locomotives, he did improve their looks by recommending a smooth welded construction be used (rather than riveted construction), along with a pinstriped paint scheme to highlight their smoothly rounded forms.
Penn Central #4801 and #4800 haul freight through North Elizabeth, New Jersey in December of 1975. The GG1 was designed to run on the standard Pennsylvania Railroad catenary power of 11,000 V AC, 25 Hz. This high voltage was stepped down by a large transformer mounted in the center of the locomotive body for the traction motors, cooling blowers and all other onboard equipment. The locomotive's power was controlled via a tap-switching arrangement; the number of secondary windings in use could be varied, thus adjusting the output voltage. The units were rated at 4,920 hp (410 hp per motor) continuous rating and a maximum of 9,500 hp at 49 mph (intermittent duty). For passenger service, the GG1 was geared to run at 100 mph maximum although it achieved 110 mph in testing. For freight service, the locomotive was geared to run at 90 mph maximum. History A GG1 crash One of the more interesting moments in the history of the GG1 locomotive took place on the morning of January 15, 1953 at Washington's Union Station. Due to a brake line **** (valve) that closed due to poor location (its location caused the valve to close due to contact with the bottom cross member of the car), the Federal Express from Boston was unable to apply the brakes on part of the train. Pushed by the unbraked cars, the GG1 engine and two passenger cars ran off the end of Track 16 and crashed through the floor of Union Station and into the baggage room. In a remarkable demonstration of the durability of the GG1 engines, Engine #4876 was later cut into three pieces, removed from the baggage room, and reassembled at the Altoona (PA) shops of the Pennsylvania Railroad. It then re-entered commercial service and went on to be one of the last-serving GG1 engines.
GG1 4876 after the crash. Disposition While it is widely believed that the GG1s were retired due to a change in the electric power supply on the former PRR electrified zone, other concerns led to the retirement of the GG1s. Aside from maintenance and performance issues, the nail in the GG1's coffin was an ever growing problem with frame cracks which were expensive to repair and occurring more and more frequently. Amtrak's first attempt to replace the GG1, the E60, did not live up to expectations. Amtrak's purchase of AEM-7 electric locomotives allowed it to retire its fleet of GG1s. With the AEM-7s on hand Amtrak was not only able to replace its own GG1s, but sell a number of E60s to New Jersey Transit to replace their GG1s operating commuter trains on the North Jersey Coast Line. It has often been proposed for a GG1 to be restored to operating condition. While it would be theoretically possible to run a GG1 on the current Northeast Corridor's electrical system, surviving GG1s contain large amounts of toxic PCBs in their electrical systems as well as asbestos. These considerations puts a restoration far out of reach for most non-profit preservation groups. Surviving examples
Pennsylvania Railroad #4890, on display at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
PRR 4927, still lettered for Penn Central, at IRM.
Last scrapped GG1s
The GG1 in the movies
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PRR GG1 #4800 (foto credit: RR Museum of PA)
PRR GG1 #4859 (foto credit: Transportation Center, Harrisburg, PA) Pennsy GG1 #4877 (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) Pennsy GG1 #4877 (courtesy: http://www.trainweb.org/) PRR GG1 #4890 (foto credit: Frank Hicks) PRR GG1 #4890 (foto credit: National RR Museum, Green Bay, WI) PRR GG1 #4903 (courtesy: Age of Steam Museum, Dallas, TX) PRR GG1 #4913 (foto credit: Ana Dill) Pennsy GG1 #4916 (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) PRR GG1 #4927 (foto credit: Illinois Railway Museum) PRR GG1 #4933 (foto credit: Jack Humphrey) PRR GG1 #4933 (foto credit: Richard Duley) Pennsy GG1 #4935 (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) PRR GG1 #4935 (foto credit: RR Museum of PA)
Enjoy! Tom
The usual Coffee and Bacon Sarnie please RUTH
TOM Many thanks for the BUDD advert from 1950, certainly a good product seeing as they are still working especially as we a have seen from your recent photos of the TRE in Dallas.
I see the RD1s carried 90 passengers a good size for the rural lines, I guess the RDCs kept a few branch carrying passengers for a few years longer that they would have done. Enjoyed the photos.
Yes we are certainly going to miss those on holiday at the bar. There must be at least one or two who view us regularly if only one of them popped in and said hello it would help.
I recall reading about the TT gauge in your post at the time TT came out I think it was advertised quite heavily.
Glad you enjoyed the photos.
Many thanks as well for the Feature Locomotive the classic GG1s. Looking at the post I noticed this time, the rather long period the GG1s were built from 1934 to 1943. There could not have been many electric locomotives that could run at 100MPH before the GG1s.
For many classes of locomotive the crash at Washington Union Station would have meant the loco would be scrapped but I see no only was #4876 put back into service it was preserved as well.
Great photos of the GG1s the livery chosen by the PRR really suited them, it is great how the colors, especially of the freight locos, seem to change depending on the lighting conditions when the photos were taken, much like the blue on the LNER A4s.
ERIC Good to see you in the bar. Sorry it as been rainy there, I will look forward the your photos of the old railroad station and the steam locomotive you found.
Many thanks for the photo from 1980; I noticed what I guess is a sort of derailer (or catch point as they are known on BR) protecting the single line junction. I guess the road wound be set for the trap with the signal on red.
Yes there was a brunette in the bar the other night asking about you.
CM3 Glad you are having a bit of a respite from the roofers.
Thanks for the information on the Pennsy I 1s 2-10-0s,I wonder if some of them or locomotives of a similar design were sold to Germany after WWI.
I suppose the C&O were one of the first railroads to use welded rail, hence mentioning the smooth ride in their advert. It is another thing that disappeared from the railways almost unnoticed the old clackity clack of the rail joints. To think in the old days it was a way for railfans to time the speed of trains, nowadays it can be done by satellite.
Glad you enjoyed the photos and the bus garage memory. I saw something the other day that brought a wry smile to me "Change is inevitable, apart from a vending machine".
I found this photo of a class 56 locomotive No 56080, which is named Selby Coalfield. For a while BR sectorized their freight divisions and this locomotive was in the ‘Coal Sector' with the Black Diamonds logo of the sector on the side. Below the cab window is the Depot Plate. The twin cooling towers signify that the 56 was allocated to Toton Depot in the East Midlands of England.
The Selby Coalfield opened in the 1970s was suppose to last for many years but all the mines are now closed perhaps you might like this link to it.
http://www.minersadvice.co.uk/yourview23_dust_to_dust.htm
Another coffee please RUTH hope to be back a bit later.
Sir Moderation has made it "in" with some chat 'n good cheer! Comments in my next round of acknowledgments!
But let me say this: we need to stop conjecturing over those who don't as opposed to those who do. It's kinda like walking along a street 'n you say "G'day" to someone who DOESN'T respond. Gotta just let it go - ignorance may be bliss, but it can eatchaup if on the other end of it! <grin>
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #14 Santa Fe - Passenger operations (AT&SF)
<A form of this was initially Posted on 03 Oct 2005, Page 125 at "Our" Place I>
http://cs.trains.com/forums/125/991587/ShowPost.aspx
<source: Classic American Railroads>
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Santa Fe (AT&SF)
Passenger trains of note: Super Chief (Chicago-Los Angeles) El Capitan (Chicago-Los Angeles) The Chief (Chicago-Los Angeles Grand Canyon (Chicago-Los Angeles The Scout (Chicago-Los Angeles) San Francisco Chief (Chicago-San Francisco, CA) Texas Chief (Chicago-Houston) San Diegan (Los Angeles-San Diego Tulsan (Kansas City-Tulsa) Chicagoan (Dallas-Kansas City-Chicago) Golden Gate (Los Angeles-San Francisco)
Drumheads
Time for a Bathams please RUTH on this quite humid day.
TOM Yes I think you are right about the 'viewers' but I guess I live in hope.
Many thanks for the Santa Fe Fallen Flag. The SF must have had the most well known diesel locomotives in the 1950s, certainly in the UK, with the Warbonnet livery appearing on the covers of many railway books I reacall. I used to see a few newish looking diesels in a form of that livery when in Kansas City, but I don't think BNSF has any new locomtives painted in that scheme recently, hopefully I am wrong.
Enjoyed the stylish Drumheads many using the 'Chiefs' name train theme.All good but I think my favorite is the Kansas City Chief one
I see the SF lost just under 4,000 miles of track in the 45 years up to 1995, I bet nowadays BNSF wish some of that trackage existed today with the upturn in frieght traffic.
I have a mixed bag of photos taken in America.
The hall in Kansas City Union Station.
The summit of Pike's Peak Colorado.
On the very scenic Durango & Silverton Railroad.
Looked up this next locomotive and it has had an interesting history. 2-8-0 # 191 at the Colorado Railway Museum was built by Baldwin in 1880 as Denver South Park & Pacific #51.After a few owners she was sold to Thunder Lake Lumber Co. as their #7 in 1905.The site said # 191 is the oldest authentic Colorado locomotive preserved
Well RUTH a round pleaseand the Fish 'N' Chips .
Good afternoon Leon , I'm in ducking thunder storms so this may be a brief appearance. No boris I have not been apprenticed to David Copperfield and no I don't want to see your bunny in tha hat trick either Now run before I make your jars of PPF vanish. So any way Leon a glass of guiness would be grand and I'll leave a few extra "bob' for a round for the regulars.
Tom-Yes I suppose a bright red pirate ship wouldn't be the first choice of the ideal mode of transport,still even at your advanced years I'm sure that you and Fergie could make some memerable memories in port
Great looking Budd car and GG1 bits from the sub basement , your two big loves in the RR world great pics and great commentary as always.es the cost of asbestos and PCB removal is a big oproblem with the GG1's and for would be steam loco restorers ( asbestos )Makes the operable one's ( steam ) that are out there all the more important.Just can't seem to get enough of the Sante Fe drumheads either, not an RR I've ever really liked or wanted to model , but the passenger service and it's histroy is just really neat.
Even with the absences it looks as though we shall overcome <clink> a toast to the <GOR> that keep the decks humming.
Pete- As always some keen observations, and photo's to keep the machinery turning round here. ( No Boris he's not going to make any suassages put the road kill away )Thnaks for understanding the work issues,put humans together and problems will sometimes crop up
As always some great photo's for us all to digest,loved the mini live steam and the rest I think it may cost you alot of "tweetings" should all 65 of those names get posted,I saw Tom polishing the large "tweeter" just in case it's use should be required.<uh oh >
Shane-Nice to see you in your normal slot , even if it's just a couple days of reprieve from the onslaught of the roofers and their chemicals
Eric-An interesting photo, happy landings,you seem to be racking up the frequent flier miles but still it's great to see you pop in again while your away
Hello again Leon , lets have another round of beer for the house.
Pete-great photo's sir , love the shot of Pikes Peak and that wonderfull 191 it is indeed nice to see a locomotive with that kind of history preserved.
Lets see a couple more photo's from the archieves.
A CP M630 at the Aberdeen shops in Hamilton
Another CP M630 on a train heading through Galt Ontario
One of the CP MLW's that was turned into a motorless power car for the "hot" outand back conatiner trains.
A couple shots of one of the few "steamers" left plying their trade on the Great Lakes P&H's flagship Mapleglen photoed downbound in the Welland Canal approaching Lock one.
CN RS18 in the Windsor ON yards 1989
enjoy.
Good Evening Captain Tom and Company
Well... make it a Large Fish and Chips and a round of Keith's for all!
This could be my last transmission for quite some time as we're headed for North of Thule and the Satelite will drop out soon, very soon. At present it's slower than dialm up so it's painful, very painful.
siberianmo wrote: Methinks it would be laffable to take on a Pirate's trade using a CCG vessel. They aren't built for speed! <grin> But the thought is interesting . . . <grin> Seriously doubt that the port calls would be anything like those from my distant past . . . I'm too <censored> old ‘n educated to repeat some of those antics from days gone by! <uh oh>
"Laff" as you may but one of my first assignments the "Daring" was busted in the Carribean soon after she was decommissioned and sold. Seemed she had a hold full of Dope and no not the crew were dopes but that could be questioned I suppose.
As far as being Pirates, Nah I'll leave that to the proffessionals!
Tom: A little something is headed your way sir so please enjoy once recieved and believe it or not the "Tares" [sic] are apart of the garb, It's a Farmer Fisherman kinda thing.
Rob: Oh ya once the bills come in I'm fried and probably a good thing I'm way North! Though i did tell her about them after I poured the third glass of wine
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Second installment
Yes Tom i did check in several times today but was unable to drop a line due to time constraints, i.e: Boat and Fire Drill, OSH training for new staff as we're carrying 30 scientists and all the paper trails that go with the job. Like the blurb on the Budds!
Shane: Ya she's a beaut alright and the more i read about the Big 6's the more I'm impressed!
Pete thanks for the Pics some real interesting ones.
Rob: Some nice pics of the old Lakers and CP gear btw saw a Royal Hudson and Selkirk on e-bay today
Anyway it's late and i got to get a good night sleep.
Later All
Fergie
Well good evening gentlemen all-Lets get the formalities over with first-Leon-Beer and rum for all please dear boy,-good man...right first up -PETE`s mystery train is the miniature train ride that is part of your ticket price on the Gwili Railway in deepest Carmarthenshire-I think it is 5" gauge-this line is a part of the former Carmarthen-Aberystwyth line which used to arrive in the platforms now occupied by the Vale of Rheidol narrow gauge line which I have posted previously........
Right-gonna post this then look back at other business
<Mural in the Kirkwood Depot - personal foto>
I see we've had quite a flurry of activity from late afternoon on . . . best to get these acknoweldgments going!
Thursday - August 28th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 13 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:05 AM <10:05 EDT>: Many thanx for the AM start-up!
Received your Email ‘n responded - thanx!
A real shame we lost Mr. Watkins, for had he remained with us, I'm sure we'd have held a Rendezvous down his way . . . but only when temperatures were in the "comfort zone"! <phew> Yeah, the TRE facility was something special to tour . . . no doubt you'd have enjoyed it too.
We didn't really swap stories about Boston's North Station at our get together - will have to make sure at Rendezvous IV!
Many thanx for your visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 13 - Pete <pwolfe> at 11:46 AM ‘n 4:12 PM: A daylite two-fer from our Bar Chandler - the Wolfman! Really appreciate the extra effort, for when you provide something, it frees me up to do the same . . . otherwise as we've seen, it can be a rather lonesome joint at times. <groan>
RDCs did in fact extend the "lives" of many branch lines - that was one of the purposes behind their creation. Of course, they took on expanded roles as the individual railroads ‘n railways sought to cut costs by laying up loco's ‘n the more traditional coaches. A very interesting history ‘n a highly recommend reading for anyone interested - RDC - The Budd Rail Diesel Car - Donald Duke & Edmund Keilty <available on-line through the most popular outlets>.
It's an amazing story regarding GG1 #4846 - one worth checking out!
My favorite era of GG1 livery was when Tuscan was used for passenger service ‘n Brunswick Green for freight - all with the pin-stripes! <aaaaaaahhhhhhhh>
Enjoyed the foto of the Class 56 loco <my high school grad year!!> - anyway, the URL was really something else. Quite a story ‘n something that could easily set one's hair on fire. Sure smelled rather fishy to me . . . No, has nothing to do with this being our Fish ‘n Chips nite! <grin>
Super-fine spate of random fotos! That Durango & Silverton shot is a <keeper> fer sure, fer sure!
Yeah, the AT&SF was a behemoth when it came to trackage across this great land. A most famous railroad with some outstanding paint schemes for their diesels. Just fantastic!
Just count up how many "viewers" have EVER come forward with a POSITIVE statement regarding "Our" Place . . . you ‘n that "politician" can have your HOPE! <grin>
Thank you for your inclusive commentary, good cheer, fotos ‘n ROUND!
Page 13 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 4:22 PM ‘n 4:37 PM <5:22 PM ‘n 5:37 PM EDT>: And our "Manager" hasn't deserted the ship, he's just one of those working stiffs! <grin> Good to see ya about the decks, Mate!
A fine two-fer from our Resident Ontario Connection on this next-to-last day of the work week <for many> AND the start of the Labor Day weekend in both countries! <aaaaaahhhhhhh>
As mentioned ‘round here more than a few times, I traveled aboard one of the Chiefs from Los Angeles to Chicago back when I was a kid - never really got "into" the Santa Fe, but always enjoyed their color schemes <liveries> ‘n those great drumheads!
GG1s are "it" for me when it comes to motive power - luv ‘em, fer sure, fer sure! Really a <censored> shame that none exist today in running condition. But according to many of those fotos - more than a few look super-fine to this day!
And what's to say about RDCs other than I've always held a fascination with ‘n for them. Can't think of another self-propelled passenger vehicle on rails that has had the longevity of those great Budd innovations. There's a design that could be modernized to fit into today's commuter rail needs without resorting to light-rail technology for long-distance hauls. Oh well . . .
Yeah, the precious few are keeping things afloat ‘round here . . . and Thursday was really an exception for daylite Posts - a GOOD exception, I might add!
Nice mixture of trains ‘n train-hauling-vessels in your foto spate!
Many thanx for the TWO ROUNDS, good cheer, chat ‘n fotos!
Page 13-14 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 5:54 PM ‘n 6:30 PM <8:24 PM ‘n 9 PM Newfie time>: Just was thinking about our Canadian Maritime Mariner ‘n there you were!
Nah - you missed the point! Large red CCG vessels aren't built to escape the scene of the crime <pirate trade> whereas virtually anything that floats will ‘n has been used to transport illicit "things." Dope is a good adjective for both cargo ‘n crew! <grin>
An interesting tale regarding your former ship . . .
It was enjoyable speaking with you the other morning - sorry it had to be brief. I will be on the lookout for the parcel!
Thoughts of us, chat ‘n ROUND very much appreciated! Smooth sailing, Mate - that Davis Strait area can be a <censored> ride . . . but, you already know that moreso than most!
Back with a 2nd installment! Always good to know that you're checking us out - even if transmitting is not possible. That's a comfort - really!
30 scientists! Must be a bit crowded in the bething areas . . . ahhhhh, yes - the memories.
Really appreciate the visits ‘n know that the guys do too!
Page 14 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:36 PM <12:36 AM Friday GMT>: Terrific! Our man in west Wales is alive ‘n responsive! <grin>
Email sent to you this AM . . .
I haven't had a rum in ages! Think I'll stick with the brew . . . thanx!
Boris, serve ‘em up a ROUND on the BOSSMAN!
Okay-lets slide straight on to the trip report.........
Right then team-have we all got our sandwiches and drinks ready -and has everybody `been` -good,lets go:-.....
Arrived at Farnborough main station in good time for the 10.30 Portsmouth-Waterloo fast service,
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Looking `down` from the footbridge
And up....
And here is our train-right on time
All aboard and off we go,now this train is one of three that calls here every hour-this one runs almost non-stop into Waterloo-
a steady run up to Woking,then we are switched across to the fast lines and we run through the south-western suburbs like Rhubarb through a tall lady ( Elmore Leonard)-we reach Wimbledon and things slow down a bit-we pass the underground railway sheds on the left -also the multiple unit sheds -next thing we know we are into Waterloo...up and running ,we are off through the walkway to Waterloo East
Here we have the station with and without trains......
O.K here we are at Waterloo East stn-from here we go to Blackheath then across Black heath common to Greenwich park and back into Mother London-stay tuned-this is a city that was there 2000 years ago-long before the Romans arrived..........
In the next instalment we will take a trip up the river from Greenwich pier to the heart of the old city........
Right-its Gwelli for me ( Welsh for BED)-sleep well guys............
Nick. Good to see you in again. Good to see you came up with the answer to Pete`s small guage Rly phote query. Some fine pix of your Portsmouth to Waterloo fast service trip, Farnborough station area looked really pristine, not a bit of rubbish lying around at all.
Pete. Missed the Notts Forest v Sunderland match, will have to watch out for a replay on Sky TV, the Cov v Toon match was really close, good job Owen scored that goal in extra time. Sounds as if you`ve got the same shaky ground problems like we have down here, their`s always a con side to wherever we live in this world of ours` is`nt their? Some nice small gauge Rly pix , the BR Class 56 with the link to the Selby Coalfield and a great selection of mixed US RR pix too. Many thanks for your holiday wishes`.
Eric. Good to see you in again, hope the rainy and cool weather clears up for your moose photo expidition.
CM3. The quakes` are just one small irritation of living down here in "The Shaky Islands`"
Rob. Good to see you in. A fine selection of diesel loco and Great Lake steamer pix from your extensive photo collection.
Fergie. Good to see you in.
Tom. Thank`s for your holiday wishes`, we are just about all packed up and ready to take off early on Sunday. A fine selection of model RR equipment and catalogue covers`, great re-post of the Passenger Train Nostalgia #16 on the Budd RDC`s in the Single Car "Limited" Ad with pix, the really great post on your favourite electric loco the GC 1 with all that interesting spec info and the great set of GC 1 pix, and the fine AT&SF Rly info with the Drumhead selection as well, a very fine and interesting selection of info and pix that`s for sure.
Good evening Leon , I see that many a round has been poured tonight <burp> I might as well add to the mayhem, so a round of everybody's fav poison Keith's for me,you know the rest of the drill.
Fergie-In with a "two fer" before he gets beyond the range of anything but smoke signals No Boris you don't need your Plains Indian headress quite yet.Not fair to temp the week hearted with Selkiriks and Hudson's ( they would look good on your layout , just get some more red wine before you get back home ) Happy voyage at any rate. Interesting story about your old ship, for the moron's that were using her so awfully.
Nick-A fine round of photo's sir ,looks like you were able to squeeze some quality rail travel time into your busy gig scheduale
Tom-Yes today was a fine turn out by the gang, basically everyone stopped by for a chat and a swig or two. GG1's of any flavour are nice to look at I must admit. I was never a PRR fan either , but their was something about them,they were wasted in freight service as far as I'm concerned , but what was not to like about that five stripe Brunswick Green paint scheme.
Allan-Hope the ground stays firm under you for a while.You are right though, any place people live have their own set of goods and bads.Far too much humidity in summer , and ice storms in winter in my neck of the woods,but I wouldn't give it up for any other country to live in.As always glad to know the photo's were appreciated.
Friday's Grin
Lines To Make You Smile
Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.
And Friday has finally rolled ‘round! Coffee ‘n pastries are ready! While enjoying both, order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast before heading out into that cruel, cruel world!
In the Misc. Dept - we have Shane still battling the work environment - very questionable for next week, especially Tuesday . . . Haven't a clue what's "up" with Dan . . . <groan>
Calling upon ALL who CAN to do so!
It's "You Post, I Post" at the Bar by the Ballast!
Page 14 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:27 PM <1:27 AM Friday GMT>: Back with a foto spread featuring right-of-way, station ‘n train shots!
Page 14 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:40 PM <4:40 PM Friday NZ time>: A most inclusive offering from our Resident Downunder Kiwi!
Glad to know that everything's "go" for your get-away! You have an "assignment" - that is to find an Aussie for participation at the bar! Ya know, someone on the order of perhaps one of the Tui Brewery Gals would "do" . . .
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 14 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:15 PM <11:15 PM EDT>: And our Manager checked "in" for a nite-cap ‘n some conversation!
Not sure what you mean by "wasted" in freight service - that's what paid the bills! But anyway, being a passenger rail kinda guy, freight was something that you looked at from inside a speeding train! <grin>
Appreciate your continuing support ‘n of course the ROUND!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Heavy fog here this morning and we are supposed to have some thunderstorms later today as a cold front passes followed by a stretch of decent weather. Is at $3.79 this a.m. but wait until next week given the possible weather situation in the Gulf.
Pete - as far as I know the P Company 2-10-0s all stayed here. Enjoyed looking at your collection of photos. Black Diamond logo and coal-related names is something I had not heard about before. Incidentally, there was a passenger train named the "Black Diamond." It ran on the Lehigh Valley.
Rob - Nice set of photos, especially of the lake boat.
Fergie - the Big 6s and the EM1s were arguably the pride of B&O steam.
allan - Safe travels.
Nick was in with a travel report.
OSP sent along some Santa Fe material and some G motor pictures. Lets look at the latter a little more closely.
The shot of 928 with the passenger train meeting the freight has a most interesting single-dome tank car.
Double Gs were not that uncommon on freight. Take a look at that picture and you will see both welded and stick rail.
The "Federal" wreck happened right before Eisenhower's inauguration. They left the G in the basement and covered over with a wooden structure until after the ceremonies when it was extracted, cut into pieces, loaded into gons, and sent to Altoona for rebuilding. The big concern of course was dealing quickly with this because they were expecting so many folks to be in Washington for the inauguration.
Yes, Frostbite, people traveled by train back then - lots of them, too.
My dad was on travel to DC and came into Washington on the following train. He said it was really something to see the train "down cellar." A little farther and it would have wound up in the concourse. Over the years, BTW, the "Federal" was the subject of some spectacular wrecks, both on home rails (New Haven) and on the PRR.
I recall 4877 quite well having visited her several times in Penn Station.
Last, 4935 was photographed at Washington (Ivy City). I can't tell from the picture whether the diesel in the background is Southern, C&O, or B&O - I'll put a small wager up that it probably is SOU.
If I don't get a chance, have a good long weekend.
Shane has made it "in" for the 2nd day in succession to begin things 'round here! Specific comments in my next round of acknoweldgments . . . but do appreciate the business! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Here's one not seen at "Our" Place . . .
Now Arriving on Track Number Two
Classic Locomotives
Number One - PRR S1
The PRR S1 class steam locomotive (nicknamed "The Big Engine") was an experimental locomotive that was the largest rigid frame passenger locomotive ever built. In 1937, Pennsylvania Railroad officials decided to build a new passenger locomotive to replace its aging K4s locomotive. In a collaborative effort, the Pennsylvania Railroad, Baldwin Locomotive Works, the Lima Locomotive Works and the American Locomotive Company contributed to the experimental S1 design. The streamlined Art Deco styled shell of the locomotive was designed by Raymond Loewy.The S1 was the only locomotive ever built to use a 6-4-4-6 wheel arrangement. Also, the S1 class was a duplex locomotive, meaning that it had two pairs of cylinders, each driving two pairs of driving wheels. Unlike similar-looking articulated locomotive designs, the driven wheelbase of the S1 was rigid. The S1 was completed January 31, 1939 and was assigned locomotive number 6100.The S1 was displayed at the New York World's Fair of 1939 with the lettering American Railroads rather than Pennsylvania Railroad. After the World's Fair, the S1 was relettered and numbered. It was assigned to passenger service on the main line between Chicago, Illinois and Crestline, Ohio. The S1 was used by the PRR for publicity purposes as well. Its image was featured in calendars and brochures.It was hoped that the locomotive could haul 1,000 tons at 100 miles per hour, but this goal was not reached. There are apocryphal stories of the S1 reaching or exceeding 140 miles per hour, but there is no documentation of this and it is considered unlikely by experts.Furthermore, the locomotive's extreme length (140 feet 2½ inches/42.74 metres) limited its usefulness as it was incapable of negotiating curves on most of the PRR track system. Wheel slippage was another problem with the S1. No further S1 models were built and the last run for the S1 was in December 1945. The engine was scrapped in 1949.
The S1 was the only locomotive ever built to use a 6-4-4-6 wheel arrangement. Also, the S1 class was a duplex locomotive, meaning that it had two pairs of cylinders, each driving two pairs of driving wheels. Unlike similar-looking articulated locomotive designs, the driven wheelbase of the S1 was rigid. The S1 was completed January 31, 1939 and was assigned locomotive number 6100.
The S1 was displayed at the New York World's Fair of 1939 with the lettering American Railroads rather than Pennsylvania Railroad. After the World's Fair, the S1 was relettered and numbered. It was assigned to passenger service on the main line between Chicago, Illinois and Crestline, Ohio. The S1 was used by the PRR for publicity purposes as well. Its image was featured in calendars and brochures.
It was hoped that the locomotive could haul 1,000 tons at 100 miles per hour, but this goal was not reached. There are apocryphal stories of the S1 reaching or exceeding 140 miles per hour, but there is no documentation of this and it is considered unlikely by experts.
Furthermore, the locomotive's extreme length (140 feet 2½ inches/42.74 metres) limited its usefulness as it was incapable of negotiating curves on most of the PRR track system. Wheel slippage was another problem with the S1. No further S1 models were built and the last run for the S1 was in December 1945. The engine was scrapped in 1949.
<from: wikipedia.com>
For remainder of article, click: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRR_S1
PRR S1 in promotional pamphlet <Wikipedia.com>
PRR S1 w/designer Raymond Loewy <Wikpedia.com/Fair Use>
PRR S1 under construction at Altoona, PA <Wikipedia.com>
PRR S1 at NY World's Fair 1939 <Wikipediea.com/Public Domain>
PRR S1 driving wheels <Wikipedia.com/Public Domain>
It was good to see LEON so happy last evening with a busy bar,so a round please RUTH
ROB We had a bit of a doozy of a thunderstorm last evening, luckily though we missed the worst part, although there was one loud boom and it seemed to rumble on for at least 30 seconds.
Thanks for the kind words and glad you enjoyed the photos, yes I have days at work where they have started bad and have got worse as the day went on.
Having seen the state of BORIS's shed (again) I feel a ‘tweeting' for someone is one the cards, although BORIS is doing a great job in making sure the Mascots get their treats.
Many thanks for the photos I do like the look of the M630s, I bet they sounded good as well. It seems a long time since RS 18 # 3104 has had an overhaul by the faded paint work but I bet 3104 was still doing good work at the time of the photo. Enjoyed the photos of Mapleglen on the Welland Canal.
FERGIE Glad someone else enjoys H&H's Fish ‘N' chips and thanks for the Keith's
Glad you liked the photos and watch out for them scientists.
NICK Thanks for the round and for the location of the ‘Mystery Miniature Train'. Was it at the Carmarthan end of the far end of the line.
Many thanks for the trip report and photos. The bride and I took the same service as you, but in the opposite direction when we visited relations who live near the next station down the line at Fleet. I was expecting a semi fast train stopping at several stations but found that train first stop Farnborough, I too was hauled by a 444 EMU. The 465 looks good in that livery, I think. Looking forward to the next installment.
ALLAN Yes the Cov v Toon was a lot closer game than I though it was going to be. If Cov can play like that in the Championship (the old Division 2) they should do OK this season.
I guess in England the general rainy weather is equaled by the lack of really severe weather like tornados or quakes.
Glad you enjoyed the photos, I'm glad Nick knew where that miniature locomotive was, it was taxing my brain cells thinking where it could be.
I found this photo of a Port Of Tyne Authority diesel-electric shunting loco at, I believe, the Tanfield Railway. We had two of this design that used to work at my old factory.
CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos. The class 56s and the class 58s were mainly found on the Merry Go Round coal traffic from the collieries to the power stations when first introduced. A few of the locomotives were named after collieries and also power stations. Looking through a book I found that 56093 was named ‘The Institution of Mining Engineers'.
A class 58 diesel-electric locomotive No. 58039 'Rugeley Power Station'
Many thanks for the details on the GG1s in Tom's photos and the ‘Federal' wreck. It is strange that it seemed that it was an unlucky train. It is two classic locomotives in the photo of 4935 and that diesel.
Have a good Labor Day.
TOM It seems the RDCs done a similar job and could have inspired the Diesel Multiple Units that were introduced on BR from the mid 1950s they too were a good buy and a lot of them worked a long time indeed.
I agree the PRR really got it right with the livery on the GG1s, I think those classic electrics did not deserve to have the Penn Central or the Amtrak liveries, I have seen in photos applied to them, in my opinion it did not seem to suit them.
Yes perhaps a lot of coal is still there at Selby and in the future it could be mined again. Another aspect of the Selby Coalfield was that the East Coast Main Line of BR had to be diverted away from the mining area, it is still possible to see the diversion with the new concrete bridges on the new line. The old line went through the town of Selby, which had a swing bridge and a slow speed restriction for the railway whereas the new line is a 125 MPH line.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. I will have to have a look for some more of our trip on the D&SR.
I believe the AT&SF had some powerful and good looking steam locomotives as well but it does take a lot of beating those large ALCOs in the Warbonnet livery with the silver bogies.
As reminder of the Santa Fe at San Diego station.
Many thanks for the very interesting Classic Locomotives on the PRR S1 Duplex locomotive. I see the streamlining was designed by Raymond Lowey who designed the look of the GG1s I believe. It was really interesting reading the rest of the link about how the S1 was very prone to slipping, I had not thought about how the amount of skill it must have taken by the engineer on a large Duplex locomotive to prevent damage to the locomotive. It said that the S1 was prone to slip at speed it must have been a very scary experience.
Looking at a link to the New York World's Fair in 1939, I see that for the duration of the war a copy of the Magna Carta was along side the American Constitution in Fort Knox.
I believe the LMS Pacific No. 6229 Duchess of Hamilton was at the Fair in the guise of 6220 Coronation.
Well RUTH another Bathams pleaseand the Steak and Frieslater.
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