Well good evening ladies and gentlemen all-please excuse the delay but I have been backstage with the band working through our renditions of populist Canadian songs for this evenings show.........So far,the running order is:- You aint seen nothing yet by B.T.O,Echo Beach by Martha and the Muffins,Sweet Reputation by Moxy,Misguided Angel by the Cowboy Junkies,Diamond Mine by Blue Rodeo,anything by Frank Marino,everything by Jeff Healy and most of 2112 by Rush.....I think I could use a pint about now..
Leon-Here you are dear boy,have a large amount of money-sort out 3 drinks for everybody who walks through the door tonight,an extra 2 for the company,and I don`t expect ROB or HEATHER to put their hands in their pockets all night-now I trust that Boris & Copperkettle have got the moose-roast well under way...( The memory of driving the `Our Place` panel van through customs with Boris on the seat next to me `necking` with a moose carcass dressed in a blond wig and cocktail frock is one I will take to the grave ) The bar is fully stocked with ice cold `Blues` ideally temp. `Keiths` and several Zeppelin-fresh kegs of Guinness-and keep some rum,single malts and the 3x vodka for later
So here we are .................................
ROB-HAVE A MASSIVELY HAPPY BIRTHDAY...........
Afraid I have nothing in the vault that fits the streetcar bill-how about some Irish railcars in lieu...
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O.K -I`ve just started getting warning messages from P/Bucket...
ROB-Have a wonderful day mate-in a perfect world you will be reading this tomorrow morning after a night of wild passion ---ENJOY !!!!!!!!!
A.T.B to all,
Just gonna go check the galley-see you later,
<IT #122 - courtesy: donsdepot.donrossgroup.net - foto credit: unknown>
G'day Gents!
Don't know what the ‘morrow may bring - so I'm on-line at the moment, might as well get to the acknowledgments . . .
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Monday - September 8th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 17 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:14 AM <10:14 AM EDT>: It was a marvelous weekend ‘round these parts, with Saturday the "pick day." Temps were in the mid-70s (F) with just a little drizzle here ‘n there on Sunday . . . nice all ‘round for early September in mid-continent USA.
Rams Turned it off immediately following the first Eagle's score. I'm NOT a fan of either team, but the Rams are surely in a sorry state of affairs ‘n it surely appears they are headed for an abysmal ‘n dismal season of foo-ball. Didn't watch any of the NFL on the tube - not a game. Was pleased to learn that the Jets won <not a fan of theirs either, but was hoping the QB would have a good game> - sorry that the Pat's lost their QB - a shame. And I guess the biggest surprise was Indy dropping their opening game at the new digs.
College foo-ball - didn't watch any of that either . . . as mentioned a few times <too many> - I'm not big on sitting on my caboose during daylite ‘n whiling away the hours staring at the boob-tube. Would rather be outdoors with Juneau - working in the yard <under supervision of course from Carol> or down in the Can-Am Train Room, pondering my next project ‘n the one after that . . .
That was an excellent choice of topics for Rob's B'day at the bar! A good read - anytime - ‘n I do recall the first time.
My only experience with Boston transit was back in the late 60s-early 70s - every now ‘n then I'd take the train in from Hyde Park <after we moved to Dedham from Melrose>. Other than that, can't recall any other lines . . . Driving to ‘n from the base was a nightmare - actually got many laffs <pucker factor #10> in the traffic ‘n absolute mayhem at intersections with the "jumping" of the traffic lights. <yikes> Never saw anything like it before or since . . . "aggressive drivers" is an understatement!
Anyway, should I ever return to Beantown, I'll be sure to sample whatever happens to be left of a fine transit system. And I'll lament the passing of those B&M RDCs that used to whisk me to ‘n from Melrose from North Station <after some fine times at the Iron Horse!> But that's another story . . . <grin>
Ain't no way the basement is going to be subject to jack-hammering, etc. Blasting Hmmmm, now there's a thought! I'll have to check our insurance policy . . . <uh oh>
Huge thanx for participating in Rob's Day ‘n of course the ROUND ‘n QUARTERS are expected mean a lot!
Page 17 - Pete <pwolfe> at 11:29 AM: And our Interim Governor General arrived with an armload of fotos for the B'day Boy!
Appreciate your picking up on my request for support - but then again, you do READ what's Posted!
That lil' loco sure looks to be a powerful MoSheen - bet it was HOT in warm weather for the engineer . . . Curious though, what kind of work did it do on the tramways
Thanx for the visit, fotos ‘n business! KaChing> <KaChing>
Page 17 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:32 PM: Don't know how you do it - but I suppose when it comes to Pubs ‘n Brits, there's just no equal.
Do appreciate the return visit, thereby keeping a bit of life in this joint during daylite.
Good links - both. If that RDC info is correct, then all of the ones consigned to countries previously mentioned aren't in operation. Thought I had seen something a couple of years back regarding Cuba's passenger rail system still using ‘em. Hmmmm. Anyway, the Aussie's have some fine looking equipment - can see the Budd in ‘em as you mentioned.
Just a thought - wish we had at least one Aussie in here as a regular.
Another all-inclusive Post from our Bar Chander - thanx for the effort ‘n the ROUND!
Page 17 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:01 PM <1:01 AM Tuesday GMT>: What remains of our GoR <not on planned absence> has made it "in" - <being typed at 8:30 PM CDT> . . . Anyway, there's a huge laff in that comment regarding Boris ‘n the moose in the blonde wig! <grin>
Appreciate your picking up on the call for "stuff for Rob" on his B'day! Irish MoSheens "work" . . .
B.T.O. - yeah, I can dig that!
A pity we haven't the numbers to host a B'day Bash . . . but without the man of the hour - would kinda be a flop. Hey! It's the THOUGHT that counts, eh Youbetcha.
Many thanx for the good cheer ‘n liquid fortification for one ‘n all!
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Well good evenign Leon. I see that ( and hear ) Nick and his merry minstrals are banging away at some very fine musical renditions from my native country.So I think several Blues will be needed.
Tom-Thnaks for the birthday wishes mate Had a busy day today first my family came up and suprsed em with lunch went to the 50's diner where we had the breakfast during rendezvous number 1.Then I had to do the the "Provincial birthday presant"Licence plate validation stickers are due on your birthday.Every notice that as you get older things like licences and licence plates expire on your natal day Then when Heather got home from work she took us out for dinner to a wonderfull local Chinease place,I must say I'm won ton'd out at this point.
Thanks for the two new feature bits for moi , I'm truly touched,(that and the birthday spankings from H&H and I'm set for another year ) Nice shots from exporail.Your mystery photo's I can help you with some what. Not sure about the significance of the first car, other than it's a regular deck roofed steel car built in the MTC's shops several hundred copies.It's green paint job indicates that it is a two man car.The second shot is also a home built car it was a one off extra large car designed to hold 100 seated ! Two deck roofed cars essentially were spliced together making that monster a good 15 feet longer than the standard also it was a heavy beast 50t !The alst shot is a "coffee can fare box " carried by the conductor on teh early casr and open cars, kind of like passing the offering plate at church,the other is a keroseen rear marker used on the MTC's more rural lines.
Great deal on the steamers and cabooses 's you are a "super shopper" sir I hope the news on the basement front is a good one,not bad. Be carefull swinging the spade as well, you don't want to create any more problems for you or the foundation.
Shane-Thanks for the greetings and the read on the MTA's transit it was a good read again.Hopefully the movers get all the stuff in order sooner as opposed to later for you guys.It's never fun working an office out of card board boxes.
Pete-Again thanks for the birthday greetings.It's good to ehar that your repired walls holding up,not good that the water found another entry into the basement though.It will find the route of least resistance though. Loved the shots of those little transit loco's.The chain drives must have been bumpy and noisy.alot of the first streetcars oevr here 1880's-90's vintage also started out with direct chain drives from their electric motors. That was until the traction motor and gearing concept was hammerd out and installed in the revenue cars of the day.
Nick-Thnaks for teh Irsh trams "n' rail bus but more importantly thanks for teh birthday wish and the liquid part of the party,not to mention the musical part you picked some great selections of music tonight.We need some hits from The Band as well as they also have a heavy Canadian content.I won't even attempt to keep up with you in the beverage department best I could do is one to your four most likely but it's all good none of us will remember tonight tomorrow.
Rob
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I'm back! Yes! Boris? I don't know, what is he doing? No, no, don't tell me, hopefully he will forget about it. A ham sandwich would be great! A Tui, please!
Finally back home again! It is no fun to fly any more. Too much hassle and poor service, especially on the domestic flights. Kind of tired today, I'll probably need this week to catch up on everything.
Before I forget it, all drinks on me this Tuesday!
Tom – Good movies at the Emporium this week! I like to laugh and Get Shorty will make me do just that! Gene Hackman and Dennis Hopper guarantee that Hoosiers is a movie worth seeing too! Very nice Traction photos! Obviously ExpoRail is a place well worth visiting! And so is Halton County Streetcar & Electric Railway Museum! Including the old 1957 GMC bus! Was that really the first city bus with automatic transmission? It certainly is a good looking bus!Nick – I like the photos from your layout! Looks promising. Are you following the track plan you showed us earlier or have you changed some of it? I think it is a good idea to use those watercolors to create backscene mateial! Very nice images! Rob – A belated Happy Birthday to You!!! I hope it was a good one with a lot of presents!A PCC for you! Museum of Transportation, Kirkwood, MO.I am not surprised at all that my two weeks went that fast! It was my very last vacation! I am not sure if I want to know what Boris’ surprise is. ABBA? Hmmm. CM3 – Thanks! Yes I had a good trip, except for too many rainy days! But I was able to go mushroom picking, meet some old friends, spend some money, loose some weight and have fun! Very good story about the subway in Boston! I guess you know where the logo comes from? Stockholm, Sweden. T = stands for the Swedish word for subway, Tunnelbana, and this logo is used in Stockholm to show where the entrances to the subway system are located.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_MetroPete – Wow, that was i tiny locmotive! Class Y1. Kind of strange, the Swedish State Railways used to have a class Y, 0-4-0, also a tiny locomotive.
http://www.abc.se/~m10039/lok/litt-y.htm
SJ class Y, 0-4-0, built 1909.I like those Irish railcars! Especially the red one! I think I have seen the green one before, maybe a few years ago. I guess most of them are gone by now.
Eric.
<CP Rail M-630 at ExpoRail - personal foto>
And Tuesday has rolled ‘round once again. Best thing about the day BEFORE Wednesday is beginning things right here! Check out The Mentor Village Bakery case - fill up your coffee mugs ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Splendid nearly-fall day with temps expected to reach 70 (F) . . . yesterday's high was 84 . . . after a bout of some heavy rain 'n the arrival of a front, humidity levels dropped with the temps 'n all's near-perfect 'round here! Do have some heavy stuff moving this way for the week's end . . . so, best to enjoy this while it lasts!
Yesterday was kinda like Christmas as 7 locomotives arrived along with the roadbed needed for the display case. Today is test run day . . . other 3 locos to be shipped this week. Cabooses on the way as well . . .
Made contact with a company who says they do the kind of work I'm in need of. Person I spoke with was confident that they can do the job . . . we'll see as two of 'em are coming here on Thursday afternoon to assess the situation. <hope>
Comments from the Proprietor
Rob's Day: Want to applaud each of you who answered the call to provide some traction shots <or close enuf> for our Manager's Natal Day!
My other Thread: I've decided to take leave from it for awhile . . . doesn't make sense to be providing info over there for the guys over here! Would much rather keep this bar up on the Forum's Page than that one. I'm not interested in maintaining dialogue anywhere but here . . . actually, anywhere BUT here would be nice - but we've discussed that "off-line," eh
Just getting tired of inviting people to the bar who aren't interested . . . getting mighty old.
Gang of Regulars <GoR>: Reduced by one - Dan <DL-UK> has returned to our Legion of the Lost. <groan>
PLANNED ABSENCES:
(1) Allan is in Aussie-land ‘n should be back with us soon.
(2) Rob will be gone for the last week of September . . .
(3) Pete will be gone for the month of October . . .
It's "You Post, I Post" at the Bar by the Ballast!
Page 17 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:53 PM <10:53 PM EDT>: Man, you surely know how to plan a great time - going to the motor vehicle office on your B'day is hardly what I'd call good planning. Surely this could've been done in ADVANCE! <geesh> Fun times in Brantford. <grin>
Aside from THAT, glad to know that you had a full-day ‘n enjoyed it all. Wish I could've been there to let you buy me a Blue at the St. George Arms! <grin>
Figured you'd come up with the descriptions for those "mystery" trolleys. There were several exhibits like that - not listed in the souvenir book. I've always wondered why errata sheets couldn't have been slipped into the pages with updated material. But then, one would have to THINK to do that, eh Yeah - pay the high price for the nicely put together book, but don't ensure that the contents are current. <barf>
My pleasure regarding the spreads on the trolleys ‘n transit. Glad you enjoyed ‘em . . .
Spanked by H&H, eh Hmmmmmm, my guess is you LIKED it! <uh oh>
Thanx for swinging on by on YOUR day!
Tuesday - September 9th:
Page 17 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:54 AM <11:54 PM Monday, Sandbox time>: Our Resident RETIRED Desert NOCTURNAL Swede is home again ‘n back at the bar! Ahhhhhhhh, two weeks of bliss with either of the ABBA gals would be the capstone to most men's lives . . . <grin>
Good to know that all went well during your two weeks away . . . one cannot control the weather, but one surely can direct activities in order to have FUN - which apparently you did!
I'm sure the guys were all appreciative of your efforts to check in with us from Sweden - four times as a matter of fact!
As you will see when doing your catch-up, we've had some mighty slow times ‘round here during daylite . . . so whatever you can do to help out surely will be appreciated!
I'll have to yield to Rob regarding the description for that bus - but my experiences tell me that if he says it - it's true!
Nice traction from the StL MoT!
Glad to have you back amongst the crew ‘n take your time in catching up in terms of travel fatigue ‘n the bar!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Our clear weather has departed for awhile and we had a rip-roaring thunder storm from about 3 o'clock this a.m. until about 5 a.m. Lots of lightning and rain which is to be followed by more rain courtesy of a cold front from the northwest. Gas prices have not budged but they will doubtless go up later this week. we are still at $3.79 and holding.
Rob - Don't feel so bad; my car insurance is due on 12/25 - always nice to see Santa dressed as an insurance agent when he slides down the chimney.
Pete was in with comments and notes. Good to hear from you.
Eric has returned. IMHO, flying ceased to be enjoyable a loooong time ago. The flying machine companies have managed to turn it into an experience like that on many passenger trains yrs. back.
Nick - always fun to go through customs. Moose was a class touch, for sure.
OSP - Sounds as though the motive power dept. will be busy for awhile breaking in all sorts of new power. Two people do an estimate? Yikes! Maybe one of them is the air man for the other guy who wears the diving suit. Anyway, good luck. Also - I enjoyed the picture of the monstrous IT car. Too bad they're not around any longer.
work safe
Morning Ruth, when did you dye your hair blonde Wait a minute, Boris get out from behind the bar and take off the moose's wig <sheesh>n Note to self do not let Nick dress up Boris even to fool the customs guys, he has a hard time getting back out of character <groan>
Ah Ruth there you are just a number three and my usual well spiced thermos of coffee I'd leave money for a round but Eric's being kind so just take the cost as a tip
Tom-Two more guys eh Hopefully they don't play the good cop bad cop thing when they are estimating the repairs As you said though lets keep our fingers crossed that they can fix it teh way you want them too
Soooo got your new tea kettles eh . Tomorrows Pikes Perspectives shots I'm guessing I wonder if the pages in the French language pamphlet include the descriptors of those itemsperhaps a job for the inspector.
Yes the Natal day is when all licences and licence plaet stickers ( and every other year the "e" tests are due.You can do them early but you have to wait until the paerwork arrives usually a week before sometimes two if your luckey ) they are supposed to be there a month early but you know what government offices are like.
Eric-Good to see you back and thanks for the PCC shot.How did you miss the life size ABBA infaltables complete with battery operated voice boxes that Boris made for you, they are sitting in the pool room.I think he went through two 55 gal drums of latex for those babies.( he needed new chairs for his dinning room table )
Interesting info on the "T" logo and the wiki article The paint job on that cars front is identicle to one of CP's last paint jobs for their RDC's, minus the "T" logo on the door.
Shane-Hmmm I think I prefer the birthday "gift" from the Provincial governement as opposed to a Christmas one I noticed that our gas prices fell here yesterday.When I went out to do all the running around I paid $1.20.6 a litre.Came back two hours later to $1.19.3 then four hours after that when we went out for dinner it was $1.18.5 this is all at the same station but no theer is no price fixing or anything out there. Boris a round on me if you please sir.
<MoPac caboose at StL Mot - personal foto>
Let's get right to it this morning . . .
But before I do - must make mention that ALL DRINKS are "on" Eric today! Ring that bell, Boris - ‘n ring it in Swedish tones! <huh?>
Tuesday - September 9th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 17 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:11 AM <9:11 AM EDT>: A report from the hills of southern WVA indicates the rip-roaring system that passed our way last evening most probably is what you experienced during the wee hours . . . seems more like spring storm systems than late summer, eh Hmmmmm - wonder what the "blame the humans for everything crowd" will call that one
Yeah, I was a bit surprised to learn it was going to take a duo in order to provide me with a recommendation ‘n estimate for the work needed. So, I'll definitely be on guard . . . maybe someone's being broken in - who knows <or cares> . . . just as long as this <censored> nightmare comes to an end.
Now I've heard it all - what but a computer could've come up with a ‘due date' of Christmas Day I'd change that in a heartbeat if for principal's sake alone. <barf>
Was nice to see those steamers moving along the Can-Am right-of-way. I didn't assemble any freights - just tested ‘em ‘n put ‘em on the shelves. I do plan to "do" a special run now ‘n then - but that's to come. Just wanted to ensure that I received operable units before my return-date-without-cost expired . . . Not sure what the next batch of road names will be - for I really enjoy sticking to roads that I have some attachment to . . . and when it comes to steam, it's all a stretch. But they surely do look fine.
Many thanx for the visit, chat, ROUND ‘n QUARTERS!
Page 17 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:16 AM <10:16 AM EDT>: Good to see our Manager aboard in mid-morning - full o' good cheer ‘n enthusiasm.
The ExpoRail book is just that - hardly a phamphlet AND in English at that. <There are two versions, of course in both of YOUR OH-FISH-UL languages!>
As much as I thoroughly enjoyed my spring visit with you in Ontario - aboard the train to Montréal along with my solo round trip aboard the Chaluer - I would have dearly loved to have seen you "in operation" over at ExpoRail. Methinks there'd be cause to make a call for the Gendarmes . . . just musing of course! <grin> I'd hate to think that "rude" is restricted to that area. If you believe that - you shudda lived in Boston when I was there for 5 years. They made New Yorkers appear mild in manner by comparison. Anyway, I'm really hoping that before I check out from the traveling for pleasure "thing," that there'll be one more chance to get together. Surely doesn't appear as if YOU'LL ever make it down here. <geesh>
I just can't imagine any population tolerating such an imposition as to have to go to a motor vehicle office on one's birthday. Why we revolted against the Brits over taxes on tea - of all things! <grin> Of course when I say "we," I'm not referring to anyone in my lineage - far as I know, they were doing their "thing" in Germany ‘n Ireland . . . ¾ German ‘n ¼ Irish according to what was passed down the line to me. Anyway, I'd definitely be avoiding spending my Natal Day in some government office - I'd go for the early option.
Comments regarding that "T" brings to mind that Eric's shot was of the former CP RDC that they sold to the Boston Bunch. Here's mine also taken at Stl MoT during Rendezvous III . . .
Spent the morning making sure the steamers run properly - they do. Really surprised at how light they are - but that's plastic for ya, eh Expected ‘em to be much heavier ‘n these aren't cheap-o units by any measure. All are DCC-ready, so I suppose that's where the bucks are. Great detail ‘n they look fine in the case. Seven on the shelves with roadbed ‘n track - three more coming. Then I figure - over time - there's room for 6 more. That will fill up the spaces quite nicely ‘n also give me something to plan for . . . w/cabooses of course! <grin>
Not sure about Toy ‘n Model Trains Day <formerly Pike Perspective's Day> - might or might not put up the steamer shots. But they've all been seen just a few days ago - manufacturers fotos, but still seen. We'll see . . .
But of course there's no price fixing when it comes to gasoline at the stations - nah, why in the world would anyone think that <barf> Prices still haven't dropped from when they zoomed upwards by 20 cents because of a THREAT to the Gulf oil platforms from Gustav. Hmmmmmm - seems that was then ‘n this is now. Hmmmmm.
Do appreciate your visit, chat ‘n support for the bar!
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams, which is on Eric today I believe please RUTH
NICK Yes BORIS got quite attached to that moose, tasted good though.
Many thanks for the Irish railcars. What great stock there is in the train in the first photo the coach looks very continental.
ROB Sounds you had a great.
Thanks for the information on the ‘mystery' trolleys in Tom's photos. The 100 seater is certainly a large car.
I believe one reason the Sentinels were popular was they could raise steam very quickly.
It seems I going to miss the Enthusiast's Day at the Crich Tramway Village by one weekend. The ad I saw says it features work cars working, intensive service and behind the scenes workshop tours amongst other attractions.
I think I will stay out of the Pool Room for a while until BORIS's creations have had their full pressure test.
ERIC Thanks for the beers today. Glad you made it home safe and sound and glad you had a good holiday. Like I said before, looking forward to my trip to England but not the flying part of it.
Many thanks to link showing the Swedish Y class locomotive, although it is a small engine I see it has a large cab. The reason the Sentinel locomotive in my photo yesterday had the letter Y in its class type was the LNER used letters to donate the wheel arrangement of a class of locomotive. e.g., A4s were 4-6-2s C1s were 4-4-2s and J27 were 0-6-0s. Did Sweden use a similar scheme for their steam locomotives.
CM3 We have had the cold front pass through yesterday evening but not with the storms and rain they said we would get, I believe they had the rain and thunder about 40 miles north of us here.
TOM Unfortunately I am not the man I was in regards to pubs. I will have to get in training for next month.
I thought too that Australia had some good-looking railcars. I could not find any info on what locomotives or railcars are running today in Cuba, but I guess it must be on the web somewhere. Perhaps Allan can get us an Australian railfan in the bar while he is there.
I have found a link to an English tramway showing some tramway locomotives.They must have been some of the very few British locomotives that were fitted with a cow-catcher.
http://www.lner.info/co/GER/wisbech/wisbech.shtml
7 locomotives arriving in one day, it sounds a great time testing them out on the Can Am. It would be good to see photos of the locomotives on the Can-Am.
It seems as you got the weather that just missed us yesterday..
Well RUTH this free beer from Eric sure tastes good so another Bathams please..
Pete.
Been watching the "pwolfe" log-in for well over an hour ‘n he <finally> came "in" <geesh> - wonder what was so interesting "out there," compared to "in here" Anyway, good to see our Interim Governor General on this bright, sunny 'n comfortably cool day in mid-continent USA!
Also saw "EricX2000" earlier in the day, but nothing from our returned Desert Swede . . . daylite help is definitely needed 'round the Bar by the Ballast.
Anyway, now it's time for me to make my Post . . . perhaps the finale for this day . . .
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #16
The Milwaukee Road
<A form of this was initially Posted 05 Oct 2005, on Page 128 at "Our" Place I>
http://cs.trains.com/forums/128/991587/ShowPost.aspx
Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & Pacific (CM&StPP) -
Passenger Trains of note: (not all)Afternoon Hiawatha (Chicago-Milwaukee-St. Paul & Minneapolis) Arrow (Chicago-Omaha & Sioux Falls) Chippewa-Hiawatha (Chicago-Channing, MI) Copper Country Limited (Chicago-Green Bay-Calumet, MI jointly with DSS&A railroad) Midwest Hiawatha (Chicago-Omaha & Sioux Falls) Morning Hiawatha (Chicago-Milwaukee-Minneapolis) Olympian (Chicago-Twin Cities-Seattle & Tacoma) Olympian Hiawatha (Chicago-Twin Cities-Seattle U& Tacoma; replaced Olympian) Pioneer Limited (Chicago-Milwaukee-St. Paul & Minneapolis) Sioux (Chicago-Madison-Rapid City, SD) Southwest Limited (Milwaukee & Chicago-Kansas City Tomahawk (Chicago-Minocqua, WI) Varsity (Chicago-Madison) Of note: From 1955-1971, Milwaukee Road operated the Chicago-Omaha segment of UP's "Overland" streamliners including the City of Denver, City of Portland, City of Los Angeles, City of San Francisco and the Challenger.
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Some drum heads of the Milwaukee Road
Enjoy!
Good afternoon Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Leon! Just a cold Tuborg Gold, please!
Tried to get here earlier today, but had to take care of some other things.
Tom – You are right, I had a lot of fun the last two weeks! I couldn’t control the weather, but it wasn’t that bad. Got wet a few times, but I survived. I got some time in the forest picking mushrooms! Very relaxing. Interesting about your new locos and (soon to arrive?) cabooses! I was actually reading about Milwaukee Road last night. Tried to find some info on the type of pantographs they used on their electrics. Thanks for the rest of those photos from your RDC-trip with TRE! Good looking international ads from yesteryear! Scandinavie is kind of strange spelling of Scandinavia. Maybe that is how they spell it in Holland? Lapland - Sweden shows a famous view in the background, Lapporten, the Gate to Lapland.RPO’s! I like those detail photos, like the one of the mail hook and the interior shots.I saw the ads from the Mentor Village Gazette! That frost free oven sounds very interesting! Is it heated? Fallen Flags and UP?? Didn’t sound right until I read the entire headline and found Passenger Operations. Nice drumheads! City of Cheyenne is the best looking one!I missed some good movies at the Emporium while I was gone! Like As Good As It Gets and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid! Rob – I missed Boris’ ABBA things because I was too tired to go to the pool room last night. I have to apologize to him. he certainly did a great job! Thanks for the round!What happened to photobucket? Did they change something, making it harder or impossible to link to photos on their server?Interesting reading, #35 Mail the Electric Version! Too bad about the missing photos. Pete – Sweden used a similar scheme for their steam locomotives when they classified them. Class Y1 was a 0-4-0. I am going to scan my “home made” painting this week. How come a steam engine is named Spaceship? A good looking locomotive, 2-10-0, should have a better name (in my opinion). I don’t see any number on the front of the W D Austerity 0-6-0 saddle tank. Did it have a number on the sides only?You asked about the temperatures where I was near the Arctic Circle. It was in the low 50’s during the days and in the 40’s during the nights. The moose hunting season started a few days after I left that area of the old country. Some nice photos from Germany! I like that class 44 locomotive. I’ve seen them live several times working freight trains in Germany.Allan – Greetings from the ABBA girls! The brunette (Frida) called me when I arrived in Sweden! Or was that just a dream? Hmm, I don’t remember right now. I am sure she called though. Hmm. CM3 – Yes, flying ceased to be fun a long time ago. But it is a good alternative if one has to cross the Atlantic. The service during the flights is not even close what it used to be.
Finally, some photos from my trip to the old country.
Waiting at O'Hare. SAS was kind enough to use a plane with the same name I have, Eric Viking.
Somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean in the middle of the night.
Stockholm from the north just before landing. It's 7:20 AM.
The runway through the nose camera of the plane.
More next time.
Eric
Wednesday's Witticism
Many a man would rather leave his hide on a fence than stay in a corral.
Mid-week in mid-continent USA ‘n it's mid-month <already!> . . . time for breakfast, coffee ‘n pastries!
Tomorrow is Sep 11th . . . need I say more
Thursday is our Monthly Anniversary . . . Since the Larsman departed the scene, I don't recall anyone mentioning the 12th - unless "prodded" of course.
Page 17 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:10 PM: And our Bar Chandler arrived with chat ‘n good cheer!
Between Boris ‘n "his" moose - and - Wolfman ‘n "his" buffalo at the TrainWreck Saloon - they'd surely make quite a pair trying to "sneak" across the border! <yikes>
Interesting link to the tramway ‘n locos . . . cow catchers looked rather strange for Brit locos.
You sell yourself far short, Mate - a Pub Man you are ‘n there's little doubt you'll hold your own over in Merry Olde . . . <uh oh>
Some good comments to eavesdrop - thanx for the inclusive Post ‘n visit!
Page 18 - Eric <EricX2000> at 6:14 PM <4:14 PM Sandbox time>: GREAT having you aboard during daylite - that really, really HELPS!
Some super-fine fotos <as always> especially that nighttime shot of "somewhere" over the Atlantic. An equal is the foto of YOUR aircraft - now something like THAT just doesn't happen - but it did for YOU!
I KNEW you'd catch-up rather quickly - just the way of a serious minded guy! Comments all on point ‘n appreciated! Was hoping you'd catch the remainder of my Dallas trip aboard the TREs RDCs . . .
A heated frost free oven Hmmmmm. Perhaps that's something ONLY available in Mentor Village's Flea Market ‘n 24/7 Garage Sale Outlet Store!
I do believe you were the only one to make comment on those ads . . .
Just received notification by Email that all of my cabooses (10) are en route . . . The steam locomotive display case has 8 shelves ‘n should hold a total of 16 locos w/tenders ‘n cabooses. Thus far it's taking shape quite well . . .
Caught your comment in a previous Post where you said this was your last vacation. I surely hope that doesn't include Rendezvous IV . . . but I think I understand what you meant.
Many thanx for your visit, chat, fotos ‘n return to the bar with meaningful stuff!
The Mentor Village Gazette - Classifieds
1988 Toyota Hunchback, $2,000.
Wanted, somebody to go back in time with. This is not a joke. You'll get paid after we get back. Must bring your own weapons. Safety not guaranteed. I have only done this once before.
Free-farm kittens, ready to eat.
Lost cat. Last seen at the Park County Rod & Gun Club shooting range.
Main Street Pizza: We deliver, or pick up.
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. The Mazdaites are on our floor again today doing more electrical work but they promise that "your circuit will not be touched," whatever that means. Things are getting back to normal in my quarters as the boxes are all unpacked, material on shelves, etc. However, it still has to be organized. Weather here this a.m. is cool (50s) with heavy fog again. Gas went up to $3.85 again yesterday (simultaneously at all stations in the area - 'nuff said!)
Let's see what we have to day.
Pete was in with comments as was Rob.
Eric sent some fine picutres - as OSP said, I also liked the nighttime shot from the window. I know, we fly because we must, but it's not the same as it was. I see that you did have a plane named after you - not too shabby (lol).
OSP - Good MILW stuff and drumheads as well. Glad to hear that the cabs are on the way and also to hear how you plan to display them with the locomotives - good idea. Why is Boris's vehicle for sale (Hunchback)? Is he missing payments again?
Also since today is model rr day - new issue of RMC has some fascinating material on balsa wood trains from back in the day as well as some notes on the early days of S scale. Modeling was a lot more hands-on back then and the article gives some good insight about this.
Well, I'd better post this b4 the lights go out again.
Something SPECIAL for this morning . . .
(1) Two Keiths caps AND his model RR coffee mug!
(2) Without a doubt, the finest looking model RR herald I've seen!
(3) A vintage label of my favorite Canadian brew!
(4) Another version!
(5) Nova Scotia Provincial flag!
Note: Those "fray" marks on the bills of the caps apparently are the way they are made! <geesh> Wonder what mental midget came up with that idea But of course, I'm so <censored> old 'n out of "fashion" that perhaps the younger generations - for whatever the rationale - think it's "cool" to look shoddy. Hmmmm.
Many thanx to Fergie - Enjoy!
Shane has been "in" so at least we have "justification" for this from Moi!
Steam Locomotives for the Can-Am Trainroom #3
Just a few random shots of the first 7 of 10 steamers and the display case . . .
(1) The first seven . . .
(2) Test run of the B&O "Santa Fe" 2-10-2
(3) Test run of the B&O "Mikado" 2-8-2
(4) Seven on display awaiting cabooses!
(5) Steam Engine Cove!
(6) NYC "Mikado" ‘n PRR "Santa Fe" <sweet>
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Not only was I here earlier, I made some allusions to ancient modeling practices as well since it is Wednesday. The lights are still with us, so we're back for a quick stop.
OSP - Nice set of trinkets from the north country. A lot of what passes for wearables of mine is torn up (and has a lot of dirt on it that will never come out) but not deliberately. In line with "aging" items, I may take a page from one of mom's decorator catalogs and see if I can sell my car as a "distressed" auto. I know, it's all about marketing and product placement. Boris put the sledge down - the car still runs and it's all mine - anyway your idea of cosmetic sheet metal work is too much like demolition. Simple tools, indeed!
Fine pictures of your B&O power - particularly the one of the 2-10-2 in the snow - it looked right at home. The 2-8-2 looked good as well. Now you need a President class Pacific and some hw cars (blue and gray, of course). Also liked the shot of the stack of boxes - there's a lot to be said for that "new locomotive" smell. I have an Erie PA and a New Haven GP9 which have never been out of their boxes since I bought them.
A pint of Holden's please RUTH.
TOM Many thanks for the Fallen Flag and the Drumheads on the Milwaukee Road. I see they still had 93 electric locomotives on their books in 1963. I wonder if anyone got confused with the ‘Hiawatha' named trains serving different cities.
Glad you enjoyed the link to the Wisbech & Upwell Tramway.
Don't forget when I am in the pubs back in England I will be with professionals.
I think I will give the car and the Kittens a miss, if I may.
Great present from Fergie, really like the design of the Keith's badges on the caps. Great slogan for the M.E.S.S.
The B&O Santa Fe and the Mikado look really at home on the Can-Am especially in the snow. The locomotives are looking great in the display cabinet as well looking forward to seeing them in person. They look good quality boxes they came in as well, like the railroad heralds on the box.
ERIC I wonder if the LNER got the idea of the classification of their steam locomotives from Sweden.
I guess the 9Fs got their ‘Spaceship' name as they were being built at the time of the first Sputniks and the first space travel. I think too they were good looking and very successful locomotives it is a shame they had so short lives, they could certainly handle freight trains a relatively high speed.
I am not sure whether the WD locomotives had their number on the front end when they were in WD service, some preserved WD locos have the number on the bufferbeam like No. 600 ‘Gordon' on the Severn Valley Railway. A lot of industrial locomotives did not have a number on the front end and most were known by the works number of the manufacturer, although the National Coal Board numbered their engines.
I will post some more of Alan photos from Germany probably Saturday, which features the diesels on a run past with the special train they were hauling. Looking forward to seeing the photo of your painting.
Many thanks for the photos from your trip. I have not been on a plane with a TV that shows a view from the front of the aircraft.
CM3 Mazda was a brand of electric light bulbs that was made at one time at the Factory I worked at and gave the name to a steam switching engine and later to its diesel replacement. This was a time when the factory made anything from a small resistor to a massive transformer.
Today's photos are from North Wales. This is a board from the station just into the Isle of Angelsey with the large name, it was taken at a museum near Bangor.
Two photos from the Llanberis Lake Railway. The first one is of Hunslet 1922 built 'Dolbadarn' the loco worked at Port Dinorwic Harbour before working in a slate quarry at Llanberis. The station is near the foot of Mount Snowdon. I see on their web site the railway have extended the line nearer to the center of Llanberis since I was last there.
At the other end of the line. I think this other 'Quarry Hunslet' is ELIDER, perhaps Nick can help. The LLR runs on the trackbed of the former Padarn Railway .
On to the Tal-y-Lyn Railway, perhaps Nick can help indentify this locomotive as well.
'Peter Sam' at Towyn Wharf station. I think the loco is normallyTR No.3 or 4. Peter Sam appeared in a series of children's books in the 1950s and 60s.
TR No 7 named after the author and preservation pioneer Tom Rolt.
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They should enlarge.
Well RUTH a round please..
Good evening all,good to be here (ref-particle accelerater,potential pros & cons of........)
Leon,a tray of cold ones for the company please to celebrate our continued existence
At TOM`s request,a quick `bookmark` post & pics,whilst I am doing my catch-up notes-b.t.w-Mentor classifieds:- extreme -had that appalling ring of truth.........
Now PETE-several hits here,1st-will look up the translation of Llanfair P.G -I seem to recall it`s something about" The little chapel with the red roof down in the valley by the stream" or some such....
As to engine I.D`s-Quarry Hunslets are a rare old can of worms-will have to delve into the east wing annexe sub-basement for this one,first thoughts are-yes ,fairly sure Elidir still extant and running,when we visited only engine around was `Tomas Bach`-(little Thomas)...............
Here she is at Llanberis (the lower pic is from the previous day-we also took in the W.H.R-certain parties were moved to comment that the next weekend break we take will be spent at garden centres and the like )
So-on to the Tal-Y-Lyn-Get the feeling you are passing the ball from 5 yds out with a clear run under the posts here....bless you -will put my money on ex Corris #3 `Sir Haydn`(Falcon wks ,Loughborough-later Brush-Falcon etc)-the green livery is deceptive,makes her look like #1 -more used to seeing her in Corris red-but the boiler barrel width and lower set cab and generally less sit-up-and-beg proportions swing it-for the detail freaks,the 1st coach is the Corris bogie saloon (the first coach I rode in on that line-pulled by that engine...) behind it appears to be `limping lulu`the Lancaster C&WW 3rd followed by the re-gauged Glyn Valley Tramway 1st
For comparison purposes here is #1 (b.left)
N.B-in the t.right shot,lulu is behind the GVT coach
And onto the next one-this is former Corris #4 `Edward Thomas`,a Kerr-Stuart `modified tattoo` class-in the b.right shot ,she is in her original Corris colours,at the top of the line-note also `Tom Rolt`,rear of `Tal-Y-Lyn` and shameless posing by public nuisance
Right-gonna go do some catch up now--TOM -LOVE those steamers mate -get some varnish hooked onto them...--P.S-thanks for pouring me into the rickshaw after ROBS party-for future reference my CORRECT home address is tattooed on the back of my neck-it was a very difficult morning.................................
Thought for the day,-it would seem we have 340 some submissions to this thread and 22,000+ views-would somebody please pull the drapes......
back in a bit
O.k Leon,set em up old thing-
good man,right,one page at a time-
TOM-Your reminicences of Staten Island struck a chord-new ground for me,had only previously heard of the ferry,but looking deeper it`s more about not being able to cross the same river twice-Like you,I grew up in a village that should have been part of a city,because we were on top of an 800ft hill the roads and railways passed us by,as did the expansion that follows that,ironically the village was there a long time before-9th century,according to established records......where we are now is apparently a viking settlement from the 8th cent. but I digress,what I am driving at is-hold those memories close-one day a sticky little hand will tug at your leg and ask " Grandpa-where did we all come from..?"............and you will need to come up with an answer
BTW-lovely pix of the Hudsons-fine looking beasts,as to the temperence league-VERY scary....but what a choice-night out with the lads or a lifetime shackled to Boris`s auntie.....Hmmmmmmmm,
PETE-will load in some pix of the Westerns in all their varied colours as soon as poss. Duchess looks very fine
ROB-loved the weird tales-and I confess-it was me that obscured the posters,I am a recent convert to the Alaskan church of total purity.................
PETE-Russell looking very fine,looking forward to seeing her out on the long road rather than just shuffling around Portmadoc-now the Darjeeling engine-did it come to Wales from France ?-recall a tale of some lad that had a nice little slim line number worked out down in Normandy ,but the locals bombed the track and generally forced him out-he also had a `Russell` and a couple of other nice 3/4 scale engines.....The L.N.E.R baltic-that was the #10,000 `hush hush` was it not ? -seem to remember we have had a pic of it before-poss. crossing the Forth bridge
O.K-thats the fist page
back soon
Quick top-up post:-
ROB-grovelling apologies for missing the Band/the Hawks and Neil Young on our pre-gig inventory -I trust our encore performance of `Southern Man`made up for this-although as you were asleep on one of the pool tables by this time it is possible that this passed you by.....moral of the story-never share a smoke with me or Steve the drummer ,especially after consuming that amount of ale.....................................
PETE-Wisbech & Upwell-Toby the tram of blessed memory -two types I believe,Y7 & Y9 -one an 0-4-0 and the other an 0-6-0-could well be rambling here-its the fumes from the jam & chutney factory in the galley here......
Right-back to it-should be caught up soon,as long as I dont get distracted
Right then LEON- I think its time for a bottle of the special rum and a handful of shot glasses please...
O.K-before we go any further,tis time to welcome back ERIC and SHANE to the fold,greetings gentlemen both-I trust you are both well ??
Well then-`tis pikes perspective day,so whats new-well I think the big news is the new Can-Am steam fleet-looking very well if I may say so -and would look rather better with a string of varnish on the hook..............
New on this side is-a whole load of sheds and huts (inherited from Alan) now painted into `house` colours,a B.R mk1 Bk 3rd painted into Carmine & cream livery to make up a 4 coach set,got the transfers together to properly number 3f#43216,got most of the low level lines `live` now,layed the last tracks into the top station (complete with soldered `droppers` for the dead ends)-starting to look ahead to signalling
Absolutely refuse to lose another winter to `really don`t feel like going up there`-even if I never get to run a train I can spend useful time repairing scenery and so forth.......
Well-thats the plan anyway........lets wait and see if reality intrudes
Looks like I have got a new job-one of small Hannah`s schoolmates dads (?) has a business sourcing rare books and then posting them on-seems he needs a storeman to sort of take care of the physical side of it whilst he mans the computer-indoor work with no heavy lifting at $15 an hour-will see me through the worst summer in recent history quite nicely-bring it on as they say -let me know if there are any rare volumes you need for your collections.....
Right-bed now-school run tomorrow-take care chaps
Oh right,I see-the particle accelerater has gone wrong and I am now in a universe where there is nobody at our place-very scary...gonna go and hide under the blankets,just in case.......
Leon, it's time for Rumpsteak Café de Paris, please! Medium as usual. A cold Keith's, please.
Sorry I am late tonite. Got some other things I had to take care of so I have not been doing any catch up this evening.
Tom – Looking forward to see some photos of your cabooses when they arrive! This was my last vacation. Rendezvous IV, is not vacation! Hard work, just hard work (of the interesting and entertaining kind). In my opinion I can’t have a vacation if I don’t have a job and after Oct. 30 I’ll finally be 100% retired, no job!!! What’s the address to that Mentor Village’s Flea Market ‘n 24/7 Garage Sale Outlet Store? Must be an interesting place! Could it be... hmmm, I wonder if it is Vito’s garage? Toyota Hunchback for only $2,000?? That’s a bargain!! Vito’s driveway? I like those caps Fergie sent you! And the cup! Of course it is cool to look shoddy! What did you think?Thanks for the photos of your new steam locos! Indeed very good looking locomotives!CM3 – Yes, that plane was named after me. Eric Viking. My grandma’s maiden name was Viking, so it has my name! I had two seats to myself which was nice! Gas prices here have not increased, they are still going down. Pete – Sputniks or not, I still don’t like the name ‘Spaceship’ for a locomotive. But I guess they liked the idea at that time. Thanks for the info on the WD locomotives! SAS has two cameras on their Airbus jet liners flying across the Atlantic. One is aimed straight forward and one straight down. There is a small screen in front of each passenger where you can watch movies, play games, etc., and also look outside through the cameras. I like to check when they start and land. Thanks for the photos from Wales. That is certainly a long name. Is there any living person that can pronounce it? What is the gauge? Looks like 2” something. Nick – Yes, I am well, thank you! Survived the trip to the old country and is now back home in the desert. Nice to be home again. Thanks for the translation of that name! I think I recognize it. Nice photos of those narrow gauge locomotives!
Some more photos.
Stockholm, Arlanda Airport, terminal 4, gate 32. Just posted a hello at Our Place! 8/23/08.
A Swedish State Railways,, class B, 4-6-0, #1268, on display in the far north of Sweden.
The rear end of the same locomotive.
Quiz: What is missing?
Round for the house!
Hard to believe that it's been 7 years . . . makes for a sobering remembrance.
It's Thursday at the Bar by the Ballast ‘n time to join us for coffee, pastries ‘n breakfasts from our Menu Board!
Tomorrow is our Monthly Anniversary . . . Since the Larsman departed the scene, I don't recall anyone mentioning the 12th - unless "prodded" of course.
Perusing Pages from our Past <P3>
Here's something NEW for our crew - checking out material from those who were at the bar on this date "back when" - so, here's Sep 11th, 2007, Page 109 "Our" Place II . . . Check it out! Who knows, you may see something NEW or that you enjoy viewing again!
http://cs.trains.com/forums/109/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960
Wednesday - September10th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 18 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:26 AM ‘n 1:49 PM: A rare, but most appreciated two-fer from our Resident WVA Connection!
Given that only you ‘n Pete are our daylite regulars, it's going to be a loooooooooong lonely month of October. <groan>
I'm not a subscriber to RMC - however, I'd like to have read that S-scale article . . . and yes, it most probably was more of a "hands on" hobby earlier on.
Mazdaites Hmmmmm, where did I see that before Hmmmmm. Certainly NOT in the confines of "Our" Place! <grin> Do a search on that name ‘n tell me what you think! <grin>
Never would've figured YOU for a wearer of anything other than the finest of finery! I've just never understood the rationale behind purchasing supposed NEW garments that have been washed, faded, torn ‘n tattered . . . surely have better ways to throw my money away. Hmmmm - model trains comes to mind!
If wishes were horses . . . I'd dearly love to have complete sets of at least a score of named passenger trains from back in the day. Not in any particular order, but on my mind tonite - Broadway Limited - 20th Century Limited - Super Chief - Crescent - Empire Builder - California Zephyr - Royal Blue - Canadian - Super Continental, etc., etc., etc.
While I've discarded many of the boxes ‘n packaging accompanying my model railroad purchases over the decades - I have retained the boxes for the locomotives ‘n rolling stock. Some of those price stickers bring tears . . . oh the good ole daze! <groan> Must say that packaging as surely changed over the years - now it seems that the carton is surely upscale to go along with the upscale product. The things we throw our money at, eh
Double dip of quarters ‘n ROUNDs most appreciated along with your continuing support for this Tavern by the Tracks!
Page 18 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:56 PM: Our Bar Chandler arrived with a fist-full of fotos, commentary ‘n a ROUND for this thirsty crew of ours!
Professionals!?!?!? You mean THEY get PAID regularly for doing what you ‘n I do <occasionally> I think it's time for me to become a Brit! <grin>
I do agree with your comments on the steamers shown on the Can-Am main lines. With the mountains as featured landscaping, those beasts do look as if they "belong," especially in the snow!
My guess is that there was no more confusion with "Hiawatha" than with "Zephyr" when it came to the named trains of back in the day. Just a matter of ensuring that the train board was checked closely for the destination desired! <grin>
Between you ‘n Nick, I'm beginning to recognize some of those shots taken in Wales! <yikes> I'm becoming a Brit!
Looking forward to our get together next week ‘n hoping the weather cooperates . . . by then I should have a "handle" on the next phase of my basement nightmare . . . <ugh>
Thanx for your continuing support for our Watering Hole by the Wayside!
Page 18 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at: 5:52 PM - 6:49 PM ‘n 7:26 PM ‘n 8:08 PM ‘n 8:22 PM <11:52 PM Wednesday - 12:49 AM ‘n 1:26 AM ‘n 2:08 AM ‘n 2:22 AM Thursday GMT>: "In" with a FIVER - first one arrived whilst we still had daylite in these parts - many thanx! Hurtin' for business ‘n conversation with so few remaining . . . Always a pleasure to have our Resident Londoner in Wales up ‘n about the decks!
No little ones remaining to tug at Grandpa - but perhaps one day some great-grandkids! <grin>
Lars almost had me convinced that I "needed" to return to my place of birth . . . but I never made the commitment ‘n really still do not have the desire to go back. I've mentioned my feelings on this regarding my 25th anniversary trip <high school reunion> ‘n how the things that no longer existed really destroyed my "mind's eye" remembrances. Don't like that aspect of nostalgia . . .
IF the Can-Am Railway had the room - I'd love to put in another mainline dedicated to nostalgia - then those steamers ‘n perhaps some strings of heavyweights <varnish> could in fact be realized. However, being very realistic ‘n in consideration of the rather large inventory of passenger ‘n freight cars sitting idle in the display cases - I'm inclined to hold the line where it has been drawn! <yikes>
I do plan on making up some ‘specials' now ‘n then - of course fotos will be taken for the enjoyment of our clientele.
Your comments regarding the numbers of people "hitting" on us is well taken. Pete ‘n I have discussed this so many times . . . ‘n probably will again upon his visit next week.
Those fotos of the narrow gauge in your part of the world are most interesting ‘n perhaps one day I'll get to see ‘em up close ‘n personal. Working trains - now that's my idea of railroading. Then again, none of it really was <or is> for pleasure when it comes to the people employed to make "it" happen, eh
Somehow envisioning our man Nick as a guy behind the counter just doesn't "ring" for me. However, I'm wishing you the best ‘n undoubtedly any steady source of income is one that needs not to be passed up.
Nice job with being not only inclusive but making your comments on point as well!
I won't profess to understand one bit of what is going on ‘n beneath the mountains in Switzerland ‘n France - but I'm wondering if it's time to bend over ‘n kiss our respective keesters bye-bye! <Styx for reference!> Yeah, beneath the bedding is my choice too! <grin>
Many thanx for your visits - chat - fotos - ROUNDs ‘n good cheer!
Thursday - Sepember 11th:
Page 18 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:54 AM <11:54 PM Wednesday, Sandbox time>: Yeah, I guess when one considers the definition of "vacation," then having a job factors in. But in the widely accepted view, just getting away from it all is what most of us think of as vacation -not just leaving work behind. Anyway, certainly relieved to know that Rendezvous IV won't be impacted . . .
Although it is over a half year away, perhaps you'll be able to stay here the night before our drive to WVA . . . that way you'll get to see the Can-Am's latest, up close ‘n personal. But of course as we get closer, the plans will come together via Email!
We'll be looking forward to getting together with you ‘n Pam in Phoenix this November - just wear your "best" torn ‘n tattered clothing so that I'll recognize you! <grin>
Having two seats to yourself on such a long flight surely takes the "edge" off in terms of comfort. I can well imagine the deterioration in cabin-service, which is a crying shame. When we flew round-trip to Anchorage <first class> on American Airlines - we couldn't even get a pillow! Yeah - I'm serious! They had removed all of ‘em from their planes to save money!! Fortunately, the seat backs had somewhat of a pillow built in to the headrest - but hardly the same. Also wasn't ecstatic with the service on our return flight. Wrote ‘em a letter - never received an acknowledgment. Wrote another, got a "canned" reply. <barf>
And to think all of this began on this date - seven years ago. Of course the tragic loss of life ‘n property is far more important than nonsense like pillows on airplanes. However, the spillover effect into other aspects of our lives is evident all around us.
Fine fotos - airport gates all look the same! Your quiz . . . hmmmmm. I know something is missing, but I don't know the name of it! Hmmmmm.
Many thanx for your visit - late or not, it's most appreciated as is the ROUND!
TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Before we do anything, a toast to missing friends. Today cuts pretty close for me because of folks I knew who were on one of the planes at the WTC and a member of my wife's family who barely made it out of the Pentagon. The section of the building where he was held together long enough for him to escape.
Pete - I knew you'd pick up on my reference to Mazda. I remember GE-Mazda Christmas tree lamps back whne I was a pup.
Delightful pictures of the narrow gauge. Narrow gaugeitis, BTW, is a serious affliction. Kind of like logging disease. It causes otherwise rational people to rip out perfectly good layouts, wreck their basements, and disappear for months at a time. One day, they're modeling WV operations in HO, and the next day we're in Colorado doing On3.
Llanfair - outstanding! I remember pictures from there and IIRC the station was a lot smaller and a lot older. Is that a new building? Track looked as though it was being worked on, r/b or something.
Nick - I'm here, sir! Roofers are done (PTL) and office is getting back into what passes for normalcy in my business. Interesting to read that your are going for "company look" on buildings. Also appreciated your pictures and comments - it all helps to round out the story.
Eric - Lovely 4-6-0 but what happened to the valve gear?
OSP was in with comments. Mazdaites are a sect, kinda like mallites.
Now for something which will interest all of you. The following website (I stumbled into it yesterday) features a fine selection of what can best be called planes, trans, ships, trolleys, etc. Many of them were taken in New England but there are others from differenet locations. Note to OSP - includes lots of RDCs cars in different habitats. Pictures of the "New England States" with Canadian Pacific sleepers were interesting as they operated between Boston and Toronto (what a concept!) anyway, there is a lot to look at - enjoy.
http://www.bcoolidge.com/Index.htm will get you there - suggest you just go there rather than trying to use a link from this post as they don't always do what they are supposed to.
Good morning Ruth , yes Boris I know It's afternoon where I am bu it's still morning at the bar.I should know I went to Sir Stanford flemming High School afterall.Later cahnged name to Laura Secord ( more of a local hero in my neck of the woods than the creator of standard time ) At any rate Ruth just a large thermos of the "special spiced" please oh and here's a sack of qaurters for the coal scuttles as well.What's that Boris no there are kknow silver coins from Oak island in there.
Tom-A fine looking colection of steam for the high Iron once the cabooses are in tow the shot's will be complete.I had to giggle at the latest round of "goods" et al written up in the mentor want ads.At least there were no mention of Chinease food and cats in the same sentence.
No need to add anymore to teh sombre day today is,nice touch to add in the link for those wayward folks that just look in and say nothing.
Pete-Fine steam shots enjoyed them all sir I too am starting to recogniaze some of them just like Tom.We both may become "Englishified" after all, so ther's some hope for we mere "colonials"
Shane-I'm always mistified at the shoddy look of today's clothing.Having at least ten emplyess at teh store under teh age of 17,you can imagine.For this reason we strictly enforce the company dress code ( no torn clothing proper fit etc etc )You gotta love those jeans with the crotch where the kneecaps should be
Nick-Whats to say but wow I can't remember anything after the first encore,and I never got to the profered "cigarette"
Eric-Great shots from home sir I'll take a stab at the what's missing.Looks to be that some of the conecting rods are gone and I didn't see a reverser either.
Back soon.
Afternoon Ruth ,I think a large sandwich is in order,the turkey club on rye would work with all the fixn's as well and I think a nice draft of Keith's to chase it with. I'll leave a twenty for an afternoon round as well.
Lets see since I have now figured out / fixed the photobucket issue I had which caused all the posted pics to disappear. ( changed class of account and they changed all the photo codes ) Sorry folks too many previously posted pics to go back and fix em all so I'm not gonna try.Fresh new slate from now on
Heres a few that have not been posted here before enjoy.
Shot of the Ocean just outside of Halifax,ignore the horrible "R" cars and envision an entire Budd train much better
Something from Fergie's Neck of the woods,a Windsor and Hantsport RS23 on the ex CP Dominion and Atlantic lines.
Something from my neck of the woods CN M630's pulling a train over the Paris Ontario bridge over the Grand River
With Shane ‘n Rob "in" during daylite, seems a bit "normal" round here - not that those two are anything close to "normal" - but nice to have ‘em aboard! <grin>
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #20
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Here's something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.
We think, you'll enjoy our "Golden State," especially if you're an experienced traveler. We have many friends who repeat, winter after winter, "chasing the sun Southwest" on this smooth, extra-fare S.P. & Rock Island streamliner. It's convenient. Takes you via El Paso and Southern Arizona's winter resorts to Palm Springs & Los Angeles. She's been re-streamlined, too, from stem to stern. We've issued a folder to celebrate the event and would like to send it to you. Helps you choose your accommodations, whether Pullman (Drawing rooms, Compartments, Bedrooms, Roomettes) or Chair Car (economical; Coffee Shop). By the way, the "Golden State" is extra fast, too - 44 ¼ pleasant hours, Chicago-Los Angeles or vice versa. Fine connecting streamliners. Perhaps you'd like to try another great S.P. route, going home. That way you see twice as much, usually for no extra rail fare. The little map shows how. Why don't you plan on the "Golden State" for this winter or next summer? And meantime, let us send you that folder?
"GOLDEN STATE," Chicago-Los Angeles, via El Paso, Douglas, Bisbee, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs, 44 ¼ hours. Through Pullmans, Minneapolis and St. Louis to Los Angeles. Through Chair car, Minneapolis-Los Angeles. Connecting service to San Diego.
SP AMERICA'S MOST MODERN TRAINS
Golden State drumheads
Golden State route map
Train No. 4, the Golden State, makes a station stop in Palm Springs, California in 1948. (from: http://www.wikipedia.com/)
Enjoy! Tom
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
TOM Yes it does not seem 7 years since the tragic events, even the newscaster on TV just saying today's date brings it back like it was yesterday.
I had a look back at the bar a year ago, there are some names we no longer see but great to see the names we still have today. I had forgotten about that great painting of the GG1.
As you say, I can just see that Santa Fe on The Can-Am backing down to take a heavy train over Mentor Mountain.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. I am not too up myself on those narrow gauge engines but like the American locomotives I am learning at Our Place.
Hope we can get off light with the amount of rain they are now forecasting this weekend and then the effects of Ike early next week. Hopefully it will stay to the east of you. I have put some more sealant on our basement.
Many thanks for the Passenger Nostalgia on the SP's Golden State with its attractive drumhead. What a great trip it would have been to take the through Pullman car from St Louis to Los Angeles. I wonder if many of those folders they sent out survive in collections today.
NICK Many thanks for the information on the Welsh narrow gauge locomotives; I knew I had come to the right place to get the answers. In the first photo with Thomas Bach, is that the station that is nearer the center of Llanberis than the old station on the new bit of line.
Passing the ball with only 5 yards to go seems sensible with a big prop forward, in the form of trying to identify Tal-y-Lyn engines and rolling stock, approaching me. I have been trying to recall in what books Peter Sam appeared, any ideas
I believe Russell is having an overhaul just now, it will be good to see her stretch her legs on the WHR with a vintage train. I have had a look and the Darjeeling engine worked on the Reseau Guerledan in Brittany and was named France, it seems real sad the locals forced the owner out.
I will look forward to the Western photos in their different liveries, I recall on one of my first visits to Paddington station seeing, I think it was D1035, in a very dark green livery.
Looking at an ABC I found the Tram locos on the Wisbech & Upwell were the 0-4-0 being Y6 built in 1883 and the 0-6-0 J70 of 1903. The Y9s were an 1882 Holmes, of the North British Railway, design 0-4-0 Saddle Tank. In the book there is an asterisk by half of the class with a note saying "Locos running permanently attached to wooden tenders", aren't those old Combine Volumes great.
It seems good progress on the model layout with the 3F getting the identity of an S&D engine. What a great job with those rare books I wonder if you will see many railway volumes.
ERIC There was a piece on the 9Fs on a DVD it said something like "The engines got the nickname ‘Spaceships' and the Drivers drove them like a spaceship".
That is great idea to have a camera on the aircraft facing downward I don't suppose the plane I'm going on will be fitted with one.
Glad you liked the photos from Wales. When I started work there were a few lads from North Wales and they could say that long name without pausing, it was known to us English as Llanfair P.G. as Nick says. The Tal-y-Lyn is 2 feet 3 inch gauge.
Many thanks for the photos. # 1268 looks in good condition apart from the missing connecting rod and other parts of the Stephenson Valve Gear. Thanks for the round.
CM3 May I join you in that toast.
It seems as though the factory I was at had a very close connection to GE, I believe it was the British part of GE when it was the British Thompson Houston Co.
Glad you enjoyed the narrow gauge photos, I have some of the Ffestiniog I will post next week.
The photo of the sign from Llanfair PG station was at a museum, I could not recall the name yesterday but it came to me today, it is the Penrhyn Castle Museum. I have a feeling that Llanfair PG station was closed for a while, although I could be wrong, and the nameboard came to the museum then. In the National Rail timetable today BR uses just the first 12 letters of the station name.
I used to have a platform ticket with the stations name on it, they were sold mostly as souvenirs.I have a link to the museum and a photo of the historic Fire Queen locomotive somewhere Iwill try to find.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrhyn_Castle_Railway_Museum
Many thanks for that great link to those great photos, plenty to look at. Enjoyed the old diesels and RDC on the B&M although that livery on the locomotive on the Talgo train takes a bit of getting used to and great shot of the Gatwick Express MLV striking an arc on the third rail in the British section is great as well as the Deltics. A site well worth keeping.
ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photos. Yes it is great those narrow gauge engines were able to be saved. The Tal-y-Lyn will always have a place in the British Railfans heart as it was the first preserved railway in Britain. I wonder if those pioneers ever though there would be so many preserved lines and one of them is able to run engines at 60 MPH for testing purposes.
Glad you have sorted out the Photobucket problem I know the feeling when I managed to delete all mine at one time. Many thanks for today's photos. Certainly the photo of the Budd cars shows the big difference in loading gauge between Europe and North America. Great photo of the M630s on the bridge.
Well RUTH a round pleaseand I had better keep H&H happy by having the Fish 'N' Chips.
<VIA Rail's eastbound Ocean at Moncton, NB - personal foto>
Time to get a leg up on the acknowledgments . . . good to see some daylite activity ‘round here with 3 of our most special regulars showing up!
Thursday - September11th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 18 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:40 AM <9:40 AM EDT>: That "six degrees of separation" applies to many situations - today being one. Seems if we really think about it, we all are "connected" to that tragic day in more ways than one might imagine. <silent toast to the fallen>
I visited that link <worked fine!> ‘n found it every bit as interesting as you indicated. Also sent an Email to "Bob" - invited him to the bar ‘n asked his "okay" to use some of his images. Really a super fine site.
Yeah - that's IT - the "thing-a-muh-jig" is missing! I KNEW it! <grin>
Thanx for the visit, chat, link, QUARTERS ‘n ROUND!
Page 18 - Rob <trolleyboy> at Noon ‘n 12:20 PM <1 PM ‘n 1:20 PM EDT>: Surprise noontime visits from our Manager! I'm "on" to you, Mate - keeping the staff off guard with these irregular visits - just to ensure things are going well. You may want to know that our cadre of aviators <avions> keep a good lookout - Awk, Artie ‘n Frostbite have set up a relay system when they spot your VW coming down the hill . . . .
Picked up on the "shoddy look," eh Yeah, some of these so-called fashion statements make me want to . . . but I do think that's ALWAYS the intent on the part of those on the fringe of it all. Isn't anything new - they somehow enjoy the "shock value" of what they do <or don't do>. I recall way back when - used to keep my cigarettes rolled up in a sleeve of my t-shirt <up against my shoulder> - wore my belt buckle off to one side ‘n of course had a sneer that Elvis would've envied. Yeah - the "shock value" was something else! <grin>
Isn't every day we get a sack o' quarters for our Coal Scuttle! Five plays for 25 cents is a good deal - anytime - for Herr Wurlitzer's seemingly never ending selections of music to satisfy ALL tastes <'n then some>! <grin>
Picked up on your comments over on "my other Thread" ‘n appreciate your decision. It's just run its course - perhaps we can bring it back at a later time, IF that is it doesn't fall into the clutches of the LOCKSMITH! <uh oh> Which brings to mind - have you checked the Active Topics lately Still have the usual suspects running full bore with far more Pages than the 63 we had at "Our" Place III. <censored> <barf>
Just finished putting "window glass" in the first of 10 cabooses for the display case. This one is a CP with the script Canadian Pacific - wood sides. Looks great!
Nice foto spread - looks like the Evangeline Park car - but couldn't enlarge it enuf to tell . . . Yeah, with the Renaissance consist, that Budd beauty looks rather lonely. Have been wondering when ‘n if VIA Rail will paint the traditional blue stripe on the Park car in a color to match the Chunnel Chuggers. Probably not - unless there's a massive repainting for ALL of their equipment in the works.
Surely if PhotoBucket changed your foto codes they can undo the problem. Why not ask I mean you have a treasure of images at the bar ‘n over on "my other Thread" - a real shame to drop ‘em over a procedural matter <if that's what it is>. G'wan - send ‘em an Email - can't hurt.
Appreciate the support ‘n hope to see ya ‘round here in the not-too-distant future!
Page 18 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:07 PM: First step taken regarding the basement "fix" as a young man, very professional, arrived to assess the situation. He was totally in agreement with my thoughts regarding finding the source of the water, then attacking it from the outside of the house. His company will also waterproof the outside foundation wall with sealant - so that along with a French drain system should "do it." Next is to agree to the price ‘n schedule the work. Feeling better - even though this is going to set us back some bullion from the coffers. <uh oh>
Predictions for rain ‘round here is to have a very rainy Friday ‘n Saturday then the remains of Ike passes over on Monday. All should be clear for our get together . . .
I'm really not a narrow gauge enthusiast either - but thanx to the most informative stuff EVER that gets provided at our bar, the learning curve just has no end! Steel wheels on steel rails - no matter what the form - are most welcome ‘round here!
Oh fer sure, fer sure - there are collections upon collections of RR memorabilia including those passenger train pamphlet-ads "out there" - probably sitting in someone's basement in boxes or file cabinets - just waiting to be "discovered." <grin> Remember those train schedules we saw at Union Station that were sitting in the glassed-in display case Would've dearly loved to have browsed through them . . . Perhaps we could find some over at the Barriger Library! Now there's a thought . . .
Glad you took the "trip" back in time - I plan on providing a link like that just to encourage our crew to review some of the fine material we've shared at the bar. Why not Otherwise it just evaporates into the abyss of the ether . . .
Many thanx for your < I3 > Post, good cheer, order of food ‘n ROUND!
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