G'day Gents!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #17
<Initially Posted on 01 Nov 2005, Page 153 at "Our" Place I >
http://cs.trains.com/forums/129/991587/ShowPost.aspx
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Budd RDC's from a 1950 advertisement found in my personal collection.
RDC - All-purpose Railway Passenger Coach
RDC introduced a year ago, is the new all-stainless steel, self-propelled Budd rail diesel car. It is good looking, quiet, smooth riding. It is comfortable, clean and air-conditioned.
The New York Central now has two Budd RDC's operating express service between Springfield and Boston, and a third, providing local service between western Massachusetts and Albany.
The Western Pacific has two RDC's covering the 924 miles which separate Oakland and Salt Lake City.
The Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines have just placed six RDC's in operation between Camden, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May. They leave Camden as a six-car train and end up as two-car trains at each of the three Jersey cities.,
The Chicago & North Western has three RDC's in commuter service; the Baltimore & Ohio will soon have two and the New York, Susquehanna Western, four.
These varied uses to which RDC is being put cover almost every kind of service a railway passenger coach can render.
The Budd Company
Philadelphia, Detroit, Gary
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Enjoy!
Tom
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Rob. You are so right about our place in this world of ours`.
CM3. Some fine background on the GC 1 "Federal" wreck including your Dad`s recollections of it. Thank`s for your good wishes`for our trip.
Pete. Thank`s for the photo of the Tyne Port Authority shunting loco, some fine Geordie nostalgia. Those BR Class 58`s were so different in looks to the other BR diesel locos`. A fine shot of the Santa Fe logo tilework at San Deigo station. Nick has a mine of information on all types` Welsh Rly lines` and equipment has`nt he? Hope the Toon keeps up it`s winning ways` from now on.
Tom. I`ll keep a watch out for an Aussie contender for membership of the bar, you never know, but a Tui girl would really hit the spot! An interesting post in Classic Locomotives` #1 on the PRR S1, it was a massive steam loco, pity it was`nt very successful in service. Another fine Ad on the Budd RDC`s in Passenger Train Nostalgia #17, fits in really well with all of your Dallas RDC expidition info and pix. Will really miss the bar for the next two weeks, sure will have a heck of a lot of catching up to do when we get back.
See ya, Allan
Good evening Leon , just a quick Keith's if you don't mind.I'll leave a twenty for a morning round or at least a healthy tip for Cindy
Tom-I'll "splain" my understanding is that the GG1's were originally intended to be passenger units,as I hate seeing passenger units forced to pull freights, that's why seeing GG1's in freight service would have been a waste ( I know it wasn't but it's the way a feel bout it anyway )
Loved the Budd and S1 info today. Can't say I like the fully streamlined steam engines, I've always felt that they were a bit over the top looks wise. Kind of like hanging a tiffany chandelier in a haunted house, working engines IMHO should look like engines not a puffed up french poodle,ask me how a really feel about streamlinned steam engines.
Shane-Interesting history on that train wreck , seems like that particular train sounds as if it had a bad run of luck.
Pete-Couple nice photo's again sir.Glad you liied teh shots I put up yesterday.It's nice taking shots along the canal there is a nice public pathway along it a bike trail really.There are not to many steam turbine powered lakers left.The Mapleglen was built in Collingwood in 1953 and has served P&H it's entire career.She's liley due to retire soon but P&H prefers steam powered vessels and tend to by up ones retired by the three big fleets. CSL, Algoma Marine and Upper Lakes Shipping who all have gone for diesel only ships.
Allan-Safe journey my friend , enjoy your vacation
Lets see Leon another couple Keith's if you don't mind while I put up a couple photo's for everyones enjoyment.
Here's a shot a friend emailed me. It's not only VIA that wraps their locomotives.
A supprise on a CSX feight train in Sarnia in 2003 no less.
An I was goofing around with the camera shot. A glimpse of GP 9 yard engine between a passing trains cars.
A shot of Fednav's Federal Frasor,( CSL's blue water fleet ) exiting the flight locks of the Welland Canal.
Enjoy
Rob
Leon, another round of Tui`s for the guys` please!
Rob. Many thanks for your kind wishes`my friend. Another very nice set of pix of the diesels`, that FPH was very colourful thats for sure, and a nice shot of the Federal Fraser as well.
To all. See you all in a couple of weeks time, stay safe, and keep well!
<CP #2928 (4-4-4) Jubilee - personal foto from Rob>
Saturday morning ‘n not much happenin' at the Bar by the Ballast as this holiday weekend is in full swing. Coffee, pastries ‘n breakfasts to order are ready, though, so join us for a jump start on the day!
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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Friday - August 29th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 14 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:41 PM ‘n 11:02 PM <5:41 PM ‘n 6 :02 PM Saturday NZ time>: Glad to see ya, Mate - but a bit <sad> regarding your two week hiatus from the bar. But, as has been said a time or three - there's more to life than a keyboard, screen ‘n cyber chat! <grin>
Surely hope your trip to ‘n from is a safe one and of course all goes exceedingly well for your time away from Kiwi-land! Best to you ‘n yours while in Australia! Bon voyage, Mate!
Many thanx for stopping by on the eve of your getaway - the chat ‘n two ROUNDS sez it all!
Page 14 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:42 PM <11:42 PM EDT>: "In" with an assortment of things to ponder . . . and enjoy.
Hmmmmm, that Amtrak is absolutely hideous. I'd love to know the rest of the story <Paul Harvey>. Without knowing the circumstances, I have a difficult time accepting that Amtrak wraps it's locomotives the way VIA Rail does - for advertisement revenue. Perhaps so, but I can't draw that conclusion. Surely looks to me as if the entire train may have been wrapped - perhaps for some special event, who knows Interesting, but hideous! <barf>
Comments regarding the GG1 makes sense ‘n I felt the same way - back in the day. Those beasts never looked quite "right" hauling freight - but heck, the route was electrified. Anyway, pretty much compares to my feelings of seeing "Geeps" hauling passenger trains once the Fs bit the dust ‘n so forth. Just looked weird to me. But, what do I know!?!? <grin>
Nice spate of diverse fotos from our Resident Ontario Connection! Good "catch" on that GP9 peeking out in between those tank cars!
An interesting link for you regarding the bulk carrier:
http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/fleet/spruceglen.htm
Many thanx for the visit, chat, fotos ‘n cash for a ROUND!
Reminder: CINDY has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often! [yeah]
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Hi Tom and all.
I think I will have the full breakfast today seeing as it is the weekend please CINDY.
TOM Many thanks for the Budd advert from 1950. I suppose, although the same year, as the advert posted Thursday it was issued a bit later as it lists the RDCs that were already operating for railroads. Seeing the RDCs were only introduced the year before, it is good the see the Western Pacific trusts them to operate the 924 mile Oakland to Salt Lake City run. As we said a good product.
Thanks for the link to the Spruceglen and the other ships of the Great Lakes.
ALLEN Have a great holiday.
I thought you would enjoy the photo of the Port of Tyne Authority shunter. I too have happy memories involving a locomotive of that type, some stories to tell if we ever can meet up.
I believe the 58s were the last diesel locomtive class built by British Rail workshops for BR use. It was hoped that some export orders for the design would be won but I don't think any were placed. I must admit I much preferred the more traditional design of the 56s to the 58s.
Glad you enjoyed the photos, yes Nick does have a good knowledge of railways.
I see Toon have sold one of their better players; I really hope there is not unrest behind the scenes. It would be good if Newcastle can win a trophy this season one of the cups would do nicely.
ROB Glad you liked the photos. Thanks for the information on Mapleglen; she is nearly as old as I am. Lets hope she has a few more years of service left, perhaps the high price of diesel fuel might help keeping her in service.
Many thanks for the photos. Oh Dear the livery on Amtrak #100 would be an instant cure for any hangover, I will have to have a look to see if #100 runs through here, do you know where the photo was taken. Much better the ‘Chessie' livery in 2003 I don't suppose it is possible to see that livery today outside of a museum. Like the photo of # 7039 and the tanker cars were moving. It looks a great day for taking photos the day you caught ‘Federal Fraser', I guess they are the locks in the background.
A few photos from Alan. Taken on preserved lines in June this year.
The first two are at Llangollen station in Wales. The locomotive is Manor class 4-6-0 No. 7822 Foxcote Manor this locomotive was a familiar sight of the ex Cambrian later Great Western Railway in Mid-Wales.
In 1958 No.7822 was allocated to Aberystwyth, a sub-shed of 89C Machynlleth, where she would work The Cambrian Coast Express to Shrewsbury,as well as other trains. The 89C Manors were usually kept in immaculate condition in the 1950s.
The next 4 are at the Great Central Railway. The first two are at Loughborough.
Great Western 'Hall' class 4-6-0 No 4953 Pitchford Hall. In 1958 No. 4953 was allocated to Swindon Depot near to the works where she was built. Behind the Hall are BR class 25 and 47 diesel-electrics.
BR Standard class 2MT 2-6-0 No 78019. She is wearing a 51H shedplate which was for Kirkby Stephen shed in the Northern England Fells.
At Rothley station, Great Western 2-6-2Tank No 4141.
No. 4141 is wearing a 85B shedplate, which was Gloucester shed with sub-sheds at Brimscombe, Cheltenham, Cirencester, Lydney and Tetbury.
May I wish a Happy Labor Day to everyone.
Well CINDY another coffee please and I will leave some dosh for a round for who comes in.
Pete.
<BESA Class 4-6-0 India Railways - foto credit: unknown>
From the Ooooooooooops Dept. - appears I messed up the AM acknowledgments by leaving out the daylite portion of Friday's submissions. Apologies to Shane 'n Pete - ma culpa, Mates! <grin>
Lost Customer Acknowledgments!
Friday - August 29th:
Page 14 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:20 AM <9:20 AM EDT>: "In" with insights 'n comments regarding this 'n that - lots of good stuff from the memory banks of our Resident WVA Connection!
I had no recollection of that GG1 disaster in WashDC until my rekindling of interest with all-things-trains much later in life. Amazing that the beast was made whole again - grateful for its preservation. Do recall seeing GG1s haulting freight - didn't like the looks of it though . . . <comments to Rob refer>
Always enjoy your comments on the background stuff in the photos 'n book covers - things many of us would never have picked up on!
Many thanx for the visit, ROUND 'n quarters - restful weekend to you 'n yours!
Page 14 - Pete <pwolfe> at 1:56 PM: Storms that roared through your part of the state, "split" when they got here - went north 'n south 'n we were spared the wrath of it all once again! <phew>
Yeah, there's a <tweeting> hiding out for the unsuspecting violator! Could it be YOU <bwaaaaaa hahahahah>
Loco shots 'n mosaic of the Santa Fe herald are <top drawer>! Nice work!
Not many people would've picked up on that 'detail' regarding the Magna Carta - but Eagle Eye Wolfman did!
Regarding the operation of those beasts on rails - yeah, undoubtedly took quite a bit of mastery on the part of the engineer to get those Mo-Sheens rolling 'n doing so in such a smooth fashion. Just goes to show that one should never take for granted what it takes to make "things" happen all around us. Skill comes to mind - lots of it!
Many thanx for your fine, inclusive offering - chat - fotos 'n ROUND!
Hope you 'n Laura have a most relaxing holiday weekend in store . . .
Since I messed up the AM acknowledgments - I'll be back with my submission for this day . . . "You Post, I Post" sorta thing, dontchano!
Later . . .
And Sir Moderation was "in" about an hour ‘n a half ago with some fine fotos along with his inclusive commentary . . . so in keeping with the "You Post, I Post" idea - here's mine!
Here's a spate from my collection of Random Fotos for this Saturday . . .
(1) TTC subway arriving at College station! <Rendezvous I>
(2) CPR M-640 #4744 at ExpoRail railway museum <2007 Canada Rail Adventure w/Pete>
(3) From the northbound ARR Denali Star <2006 Alaska Rail Adventure>
(4) Eastbound VIA Rail F40PHs #6441 & 6442 at Jasper, AB <2002-03 Cross-Canada trip>
(5) The boyz ‘n the last of the rolling stock at St. Louis Union Station <Rendezvous II>
(6) Southbound Texas Eagle at Chicago's Union Station <trip w/Pete>
Enjoy the weekend!
Good evening Leon , I see that you and Boris are having a friendly game of darts ( I see that the critters are staying well away from the "event" as well ) both will make good back-ups for the next grudge match Well leon I think just a Keith's for me tonight I don't want to have anything too heavy with both you and Boris hurling darts around the bar room.
Tom- I see it's a normal slooow saturday at the bar and on the forum as a whole. Your last post was noon and with me doing this one at seven the bar had only slipped to the number two slot.
I see that you are of the same mind as to the not normal use of locomotibves, oh well I suppose that the railroads paid for them and should get to use them as they see fit.Thnaks for teh link to the Great lakes list there are several good ones out there,a good friend of mine operates one of them, and has taken ship shots since he was a wee lad.
http://www.wellandcanal.ca/
This is his sight if your inetrested
Nice looking rogues gallery of rendezvous and persol trip shots today Thanks for the comments on that GP shot , once in a while I like trying to get the odd well odd shot instead of the same old same old.
Pete-In with your normal round of cheer and chat Loved today's steamer shots as well. top notch as always.The Mapleglen likely will retire sooner as opposed to later ,but it is a beautifull ship Yes that the flight locks behind the Federal Frasor , locks four five and six of the canal, they are all twinned locks as they do the biggest lifts.
I don't think you will likely see that Amtrak unit,my friend took that shot in Baltimore,it was painted for the last big milestone birthday of the US Postal service.
Pete 'n Rob have made visits on this holiday weekend <Saturday> 'n I've noticed that our man Nick in west Wales has been active on our Forum - so perhaps we'll be seeing him as well.
Check your Email, Sir Nick!
Thanx for the link, Rob - I'll be sure to check it out tomorrow <Sunday> when there's time for this 'n that . . .
Additional commentary in my next round of acknowledgments . . .
Here's a hodge-podge of books from my library, to round out the evening - then I'm gone-zo!
Well good evening all,just back from a VERY strange night out-we were supposed to be the top of the bill.....(with Ritchie Havens-yes that Ritchie Havens playing in the big room down the road..)..after some searching I found both of our support acts snorting speedballs (cocaine & heroin) in a squalid little room across from the pub--left them to it and went back to work,played two sets of good ole boys music in the style of the Who live(great thing about C&W music-you can really kick *** with it) got paid and then home we go-as we were leaving the first support band were starting up-possibly the worst versions of `Fire` by Jimi & `Smoke on the water ` I have heard in a while........by this stage fights were starting all over the place,a classic Pembrokeshire saturday night out........
Gotta love it
Should you require a booking,don`t hesitate to call.........
O.K-Leon-please give a drink to anybody that doesnt have a Welsh accent or claim that they are with me (apart from the boys in the band of course)
Lordy-its getting near bedtime and I havn`t even started on the stuff thats gone before-with due respect it will have to wait until tomorrow--sorry guys-interesting stuff going on here but I`m past my best for the night and this stuff requires my full attention--sleep well and sweet dreams
one quick thought to share-had a quality moment earlier-had a rare afternoon in the garden earlier (the rain stopped for a while)--small Hannah joined me in the train shed....."Daddy-can I drive the train....."O.K-this is one of Grandads trains (Swiss 6/6 with a full set of cars)-can I drive it please-?-yeah-no worries-" Am gonna drive slowly so the passengers can enjoy the scenery-O.K -you go for it...........was a very pleasant interlude and I am sure that Alan was looking down on us and approving.......
Right -it`s bed for me,apologies for not being more relevant,I will get there...............
Love to all
<VIA Rail LRC-2 at ExpoRail - personal foto>
Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
<but go ahead ‘n slip your messages thru the mail slots on the doors!>
Sunday at the Saloon by the Siding ‘n we're CLOSED . . . but take heart, we'll be back in business on Monday morning, even though it's a holiday!
Saturday - August 30th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 14 - Pete <pwolfe> at 11:01 AM: Methinks your Mate - Alan - lives the PERFECT life for a retiree. Oh how I envy that man! What a way to spend the time - traveling aboard trains of yesteryear ‘n today throughout Europe. <envy>
Began looking into acquiring another Lucite display case <4x2 ft> to house STEAM locomotives - which I haven't yet begun to purchase. Hmmmmmm. Does this hobby ever have an "end" Will probably relocate that wall of Canadian Railway heralds to beneath the Retired Canadian Railway models - then use that wall for the steamers . . . we'll see. Oh how the hobby people luv me! <grin>
Spate of six fotos w/descriptions fit nicely into our Saturday at the bar!
Haven't seen the term "dosh" used ‘round here for a ROUND!
Enjoy the holiday weekend!
Page 14 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 7:34 PM <8:34 PM EDT>: Yeah, the Classic Trains Forum is surely not setting any records for activity . . . brings to mind that nagging thought of "Our" Place being pushed out . . . only to rise again <aka: Phoenix>.
Was indeed a looooooooong time between customers . . . but we've grown accustomed to Saturdays being like that. <groan>
Your friend has quite an impressive site ‘n I found all sorts of "guduns" to gaze at. Didn't see any of the ships I served aboard - but methinks only Hamilton <WHEC-715> remains afloat. The Ark is long gone! <grin> Kudos to your buddy for amassing such a fine spate of ship fotos!
Ahhhh, so there IS a story attached to that Gawd-awful Amtrak wrap! Figured it would be something like the Postal Service! <grin> Don't really want to see anymore of it - RIP! <ugh>
Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n good cheer!
Page 15 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:44 PM <2:44 AM Sunday GMT>: Truly a mixed bag from Sir Nick - from sick-o-dregs on drugs to the warmth of daddy-daughter in the train shed. Yeah, the spectrum of imagery was fully covered . . .
Ritchie Havens - now there's a name from the past <perhaps the rest home!> He's 3 years younger than I - also a New York City "kid" who made it at Woodstock - don't know of his present-day music, but do recall his 60s ‘n 70s tunes. Never was "into" the protest era - I was supporting what they were protesting!
What in the world is he doing in west Wales Ah yes, strumming ‘n singing - of course! <grin>
Email regarding RR BOOK RELAY 2008! pends . . .
A Saturday nite in Pembrokeshire is surely not for the faint o' heart, methinks! I'd love to introduce a crew or three from my days to that area - we'd have a blast! <uh oh>
ROUND ‘n chat appreciated along with taking the time 'n making the effort to join us!
<VIA Rail's eastbound Ocean departing Halifax - Renaissance lounge - personal foto>
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . August 31st thru September 6th: Caddy Shack <1980> Starring: Rodney Dangerfield, Chevy Chase, Ted Knight & Michael O'Keefe - and - ENCORE Presentation of The Longest Yard <1974> Starring: Burt Reynolds, Eddie Albert, Ed Lauter, Michael Conrad & James Hampton. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Who Done It? <1949>
Caddyshack <1980>
PLOT SUMMARY: A no-brainer that has become a low-brow classic, this 1980 comedy makes anarchy the rule of the day, unleashing the antics of Bill Murray, Rodney Dangerfield, Ted Knight, and Chevy Chase. Caddyshack is about the scheme of a vulgar land developer (Dangerfield) who wants to build condominiums on the site of a ritzy country club. Director Harold Ramis (who later reunited with Murray to make Groundhog Day) is content to let the comedy follow a variety of wacky detours, most notably Murray's maniacal war with a gopher that has been digging up the golf course. Dangerfield ultimately steals the show, firing off a battery of one-liners, insults, and tasteless gags. Caddyshack is the kind of movie some people have been known to watch several times a year, reciting every line of dialogue like the followers of a bizarre comedic ritual. --Jeff Shannon
A no-brainer that has become a low-brow classic, this 1980 comedy makes anarchy the rule of the day, unleashing the antics of Bill Murray, Rodney Dangerfield, Ted Knight, and Chevy Chase. Caddyshack is about the scheme of a vulgar land developer (Dangerfield) who wants to build condominiums on the site of a ritzy country club. Director Harold Ramis (who later reunited with Murray to make Groundhog Day) is content to let the comedy follow a variety of wacky detours, most notably Murray's maniacal war with a gopher that has been digging up the golf course. Dangerfield ultimately steals the show, firing off a battery of one-liners, insults, and tasteless gags. Caddyshack is the kind of movie some people have been known to watch several times a year, reciting every line of dialogue like the followers of a bizarre comedic ritual. --Jeff Shannon
The Longest Yard <1974>
PLOT SUMMARY: In this rough-and tumble movie actually filmed on-location at the Georgia State Prison, the cons are the heroes and the guards are the heavies. Eddie Albert is the sadistic warden who'll gladly make any sacrifice to push his guards' semi-pro football team to the national championship. Burt Reynolds plays one-time pro quarterback Paul Crewe now behind bars for leading State Police on a wild chase in a "borrowed car" and more. He agrees to organize a prisoners' team to play the guards. The warden intercedes to assure that his goon squad will meet only passive resistance from Crewe's "Mean Machine." But the license to pound on their hated guards is a big incentive for murderers and thieves to learn strategy.
In this rough-and tumble movie actually filmed on-location at the Georgia State Prison, the cons are the heroes and the guards are the heavies. Eddie Albert is the sadistic warden who'll gladly make any sacrifice to push his guards' semi-pro football team to the national championship. Burt Reynolds plays one-time pro quarterback Paul Crewe now behind bars for leading State Police on a wild chase in a "borrowed car" and more. He agrees to organize a prisoners' team to play the guards. The warden intercedes to assure that his goon squad will meet only passive resistance from Crewe's "Mean Machine." But the license to pound on their hated guards is a big incentive for murderers and thieves to learn strategy.
SHORT: Who Done It? <1949>
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges are hired as detectives to protect John Goodrich from the Phantom Gang, but are tied up, causing them to be an hour late. Before they arrive, Goodrich is snatched by The Goon, a member of the Gang. The Stooges then arrive and search the house. They find Goodrich and have a fight against the Gang, knocking them all out.
The Stooges are hired as detectives to protect John Goodrich from the Phantom Gang, but are tied up, causing them to be an hour late. Before they arrive, Goodrich is snatched by The Goon, a member of the Gang. The Stooges then arrive and search the house. They find Goodrich and have a fight against the Gang, knocking them all out.
<from: threestooges.net>
It's a Monday Holiday - Labor Day - ‘n a new month at the Tavern by the Tracks! Things are rather quiet, which is fine. We're OPEN today with our traditional bill o' fare at the bar . . . so grab a mugga Joe - a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n of course order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Ruth is "off" today - I'll handle things ‘til Leon comes in at 5 PM . . .
NO ACKNOWLEDGMENTS this morning . . .
Email from Pete received 'n responded to . . . nothing from Nick!
Here's something from our sub-basement archives room to kick off the day . . .
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #15 Baltimore & Ohio Railroad (B&O)
<A form of this was initially Posted on 04 Oct 2005, Page 127 at "Our" Place I>
http://cs.trains.com/forums/127/991587/ShowPost.aspxHere's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Baltimore & Ohio (B&O)
Headquarters: Baltimore, MD Mileage in 1950: 10,000 Locomotives in 1963: Diesel: 491 Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars - 59,152 Passenger cars - 654 Principal routes in 1950: Jersey City, NJ (New York)-Baltimore, MD-Pittsburgh, PA-Chicago Washington, DC-Point of Rocks, MD Cumberland, MD-Cincinnati, OH-St. Louis, MO Detroit, MI-Toledo, OH-Cincinnati Hamilton, OH-Beardstown, IL Pittsburgh-Buffalo & Rochester, NY Akron-Cleveland, OH Midland City, OH-Columbus, OH-Pittsburgh Passenger trains of note: Ambassador (Baltimore-Detroit) Capitol Limited (Jersey City-Washington-Chicago) Cincinnatian (Detroit-Cincinnati; later, Baltimore-Washington-Cincinnati) Columbian (Washington-Chicago) Diplomat (Jersey City-Washington-St. Louis) Metropolitan Special (Washington-St. Louis) National Limited (Jersey City-Washington-St. Louis) Royal Blue (Jersey City-Washington) Shenandoah (Jersey City-Washington-Chicago)
Some drum heads of the B&O
Enjoy! Tom
I see RUTH as the day off so a full breakfast please TOM
TOM Great selection of Random Photos, from Alaska all the way to St Louis. The area around the last remaining rolling stock at Union Station St Louis looks as though it is waiting for some more stock to arrive but sadly that is not the case. I wonder what plans there is for that area now. The photo did remind me of the glorious weather we had a Rendezvous II and Rendezvous III was not too bad ether.
Many thanks for those great book covers from your collection. A great choice to have an Alco in the great D&H blue livery on the American Passenger Train one and that is a great night photo of the Reading diesels on Classic American Railroads VOL. III
I believe that Alan has only recently been going to mainland Europe visiting the preserved lines and museums there. I think he is thoroughly enjoying it.
It will be very interesting to see which steamers will occupy the new display case, selecting them will be a lot of the fun. Looking at the superb detail on the models nowadays, perhaps a display case here with British models HMMMMM.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. It is surprising the amount of nicknames for money there is both sides if the pond.
Good photo of the inside of the Renaissance lounge car. Two good films on again at the Emporium this week. It will be good to see Caddyshack again and The Longest Yard is a film I would like to see. I wonder how many times cars have got Burt Reynolds in to trouble with the police in films. Then, of course, the Stooges.
Many thanks for the Passenger Railroad Fallen Flag on the B&O. The first line in the U.S I believe. I see their Drumheads, although not as attractive as some designs I feel, were recognizable having the Rotunda of the Capital on them.
E-mail received thanks.
ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photos.
I guess CM3 has more chance of seeing Amtrak #100 in the ‘Postage' livery than we have here in Missouri, with the locomotive working in the east part of the U.S. Perhaps it could turn up in Montreal on the train from New York.
The Mapleglen is a fine looking ship, many thanks for the great link to those many other fine ships, including the Mapleglen, a site well worth visiting many times.
NICK Ritchie Havens playing in your area. Real glad you was heading homeward as those fights were braking out.
What a great moment with Hannah driving her Granddad's model 6/6. Yes indeed Alan would be looking down with a massive smile, many thanks for sharing that great moment with us at the bar.
Today's photos are of the replica of Richard Trevithick's Penydarren locomotive of 1804, said to be the first ever steam railway locomotive. I have a link to the Penydarren Tramway.
http://members.aol.com/Walesrails/trevithick.htm
The photos were taken at the Maritime Museum in Cardiff, if I recall correctly.
The replica was working along a piece of track, with much clanking and banging I recall. It must have alarmed the folks in 1804 when they first saw it.
Well TOM we are off out now so a round please for those who come in..
As seems to be the norm 'round here, it's become the Pete 'n Tom show during daylite . . . especially weekends 'n holidays <when of course he's not skeedaddling out of town!>
Now Arriving on Track Number One
UK by the Half Dozen #3
(1) Brighton Railway - Victoria & London Bridge Stations
(2) British Railways - Windsor
(3) British Railways - The Queen of Scots <1950s>
(4) LMS Express & Cunard Liner
(5) LMS - Scotland
(6) LNER - Restaurant Cars
Well good evening all and welcome to the new week-lets hope it`s a good one for folks down in the Big Easy,latest news reports suggest that (for once) things may not be as bad as first indicated..........lets hope so
Right then,Leon-since it would seem to be a holiday,lets try a round of ice-cold Czech Pilsners for the crew with a large jug of Sangria to chase them down with-and a round for the staff as well (it seems only fair)
So whats new `round these parts...?
TOM-E-Mail should be with you,R.E previous post:-I was reporting,rather than endorsing-my thinking is fairly Darwinian here,these losers are unlikely to ever contribute to the gene pool and the human race will be better for it,that said ,I am in no position to attempt the moral high ground here,Like all of us,I have travelled a long road to get where I am now...also I am one of those people who can watch and enjoy Caddyshack and similar low-brow movies repeatedly.............Animal house & the Blues Brothers are especial favourites
Lovely selection of Brit artwork btw...--so a new display cabinet is under consideration eh ..should you wish to consider a Brit example I can do no better than suggest anything from the current Hornby Catalog,although they do not do unpowered `display` versions,the current P.R.C factory output is of a VERY high standard-express engines go at about $200 and matching cars at about $40-there are also a variety of `collectors ` sets of an engine and 3 cars.....just a thought
PETE-Yes indeed,any other night and I would have been in the front row for the Ritchie Havens show,still-when duty calls and all that.....As it happens,the Queens hall in Narberth used to be a regular gig for bands on their way over to Ireland-my pal Simon has a story about coming home from watching Van Morrison and Them back in the 60`s` and stopping to assist a fella changing a tyre on an old Commer van-turned out to be Van himself,the motor is swaying around and noises are heard,when questioned yer man has replied-"oh,thats the band-if I let the ****ers out,I`ll never see them again."..............
Now that mystery pic of yours-was an easy `spot`-I have an almost identical pic myself-only the wee engine is different-in my pic its green
Was indeed a quality moment with Hannah-unlike most boys-who seem to treat a train as a form of missile,she seems to see the thing as part of a whole-as noted,lets take it slow so the passengers can see the countryside-most gratifying-there is hope yet
Nice pics of the Trevithick engine-have mentioned before ,one of my neighbours is a direct descendant-now heres a puzzler for you,-have it in mind that the original used a sort of outside 3rd rail as a kind of rack and pinion using the big flywheel as a driver-any thoughts ??-am prepared to be talked down on this but is a very strong memory from somewhere.........
Right then Leon-lets have another round please-head is spinning from the vinegar fumes-it`s the end of the growing season and intensive jam & pickle making is occurring-so far we have 8lbs of raspberry jam,10lbs each of apple and mixed fruit jelly,16lbs of spicy apple chutney and the freezer is full of raspberries,gooseberries,blueberries and blackcurrants-we are picking green beans and yellow and green zuccini every day and it looks like we are gonna have green tomato chutney,passata mix and grape jelly to spare--if the sun ever comes out again we might also have some red tomatoes-had a couple earlier on-wonderfully sweet-just a sprinkle of salt and they melt on the tongue-sadly the carrots were a non starter-although the few we had were lovely-we may consider going into business exporting mixed leaf lettuce and the beetroot are looking good so far although I am playing the waiting game there.......Sadly,the plum & pear trees and the herbs have been a total loss but since we have only had about 1 dry day a week for the last 6 weeks I shouldn`t be too disappointed..........
O.k-gonna post this before I lose it and shall we have part two of my trip report.....?
Right then my lovelies,here we are on the tourist trail-Leon-a think a round of beers in take-away cups please cos we are on the move:-now,when last spotted we were walking across Blackheath towards Greenwich park,home of the royal observatory and the famed greenwich meridian-0 o`clock so to speak.....
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Just to restore continuity,here we are at Blackheath Stn-the McConnell ladies-from right,Missisnick,Elisabeth,small Hannah & Mary-Louise
And here is the wee monkey contributing to the tourist trade just outside the park-the donkeys were lovely gentle creatures
Now into and across the park and we are suddenly presented with a glorious view of Mother London at her best
And down we go into the park-the series of buildings in the foreground is the national maritime museum
A picnic lunch in the park is enjoyed,and onwards to greenwich pier to get the riverboat
Most of the old docklands-the area where my paternal grandparents came from-is gone,however the odd pub survives
Not sure what this one is called but is somewhere along Limehouse reach....
Now we are doing the tourist thing.....
Now here is one of the worlds most iconic images,but seen from a different angle-Tower Bridge
And one for the new millennium
The London Eye-couldnt be doing with it personally.....
Spent a couple of hours doing touristy things then back to Waterloo for the train home-stuck in a carriage with a load of commuters including a city whizz-kid called Toby who insisted on talking to the whole carriage on his mobile phone...." Oh yes,Toby here-are we good for a monday meet to move the deal on Slater-Nazi finance" etc-after about ten minutes small Hannah goes over to him--"excuse me Toby" "?" "Why are you talking to everybody??" "?" "Can I use your phone to talk to my granny in Wales ?" At this point he has spotted me giving him the 1000 yard stare and gets all flustered..." Is this your child ?" "Yup" "Ohh.."
From then on it was a pleasantly peacefull trip home.
Went out that night to the local pub ,met some interesting people ,went back to the house and saw a shooting star whilst having a late night smoke out in the garden....A fine week away
O.K guys-speak soon,take care now
Regards to all
Good evening Leon, in for a quick Monday evening catch -up. Just a Keith's for me this evening sir as we who still toil prepare for the upcomming work week ( mercifully shortened )
Tom-Yes indeed the Classic forum certainly does not pose any threat for posting records.I enjoyed the B&O piece and the fine set of posters that you put up for Pete. Both of the sporting movies for this week should be well recieved by the patrons of the Emporium
My friend Jeff has indeed spent an enormus part of his life amassing those ship photo's.He's always happy to read an email or two as the canal is his life.Both from the enjoyment and employment side of things ( he works the control centre at lock 7 in the dispatching offices )He does have a similar love of the train model and real but his time and efforts spent with his family and the ships.
I don't remember seeing many US or Canadian coast gurd vessels in the canal,they do transit but for the most part it is the perview of the big bulk freighters.
Tom the steamers will cost you big,but hey it's only money.
Pete-I'm glad that you have enjoyed Jeff's web site as well. It is an all consuming monster of a thing. There likely is not a bigger one out there on the Great Lakes shipping.Today's photo's were 5 for sure as well
Nick-Fine fine photo's of your London adventure / vacation Indeed your description of your Friday night was awe inspiring Kind of makes me glad that I never took up anything musical as anything more than a passing fancy.Coarse hearing me sing would likely cause much consternation so I'll leave it to my more talented betters
What a great father daughter event the train shed would have been as well Gotta get them hooked young as it were
Well Leon another bottle if you don't mind and I'll leave a couple more photo's for the gang.
One for Tom,a shot my uncle got of a CN RDC 3 at the St Catharines station 1978 ish
A hard working Geep in Brantford.
A smile to begin the week!
"When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend."- U.S. Marine Corps
Temps have returned to the 90s (F) with the arrival of September . . . one more day of "it" then the remnants of Gustav arrive in these parts to cool things down . . . can fall be that far away <grin>
Coffee is ready - pastries fresh from Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink's Mentor Village Bakery! And of course, our menu board lists those tasty <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfast selections!
RR BOOK RELAY 2008! Being mailed TODAY - en route Shane in WVA!
Next B'day: Rob on the 8th!
PLANNED ABSENCES:
(1) Eric is in Sweden ‘n returns home on the 7th . . .
(2) Allan departed for Aussie-land ‘n will be gone for 2 weeks . . .
(3) Rob will be gone for the last week of September . . .
(4) Pete will be gone for the month of October . . .
. . . and we have Shane with interruptions in the work place - Fergie at sea in perhaps poor to no sat-comm conditions - Dan "lost" in Sherwood Forest . . . Calling upon ALL who CAN to do so during daylite!
Monday - September 1st <all times Central daylite>:
Page 15 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:16 AM: Good to see ya on the holiday morning - doesn't appear anyone else is up ‘n about the decks! <geesh>
Haven't seen anything lately regarding plans for Union Station ‘n the track area. Last I saw - which we discussed - was the "blurb" about management wanting to remove the cars ‘n few remaining tracks. Looks like they're doing it . . . <barf> Really boggles the mind when you think of the place NOT having trains - at all. When they first opened it up after remodeling the joint, they had a fine looking train store - chock full of model trains <expensive, of course>. But, it kind of set the stage for the experience of visiting the station. It was located on the Maggie O'Brien's side of the station, so that when you entered, the train store was the first thing one would pass by. Had an elevated G-gauge track that ran inside ‘n outside of the store. Really neat to see - now it's all gone-zo. Then there were sidings with static displays of cars ‘n some privately owned ones in operating mode. Now all of that is gone-zo. Of course at the get-go, the developers didn't want Amtrak - so we know the history of that. A real travesty, in my not-so-humble OH-PIN-YUN!
Whether recent or not, seems to me you've been showing Alan's fotos from Germany ‘n other Euro locations for at least a couple of years. That sounds like the "life' for Moi!
Really haven't honed in on any firm selections for the new display case. In fact, I haven't ordered the case yet. Just something I'm "fighting" myself over - in the "should I" or "should I not" mode at present. Yeah, it's only money . . . <grin> But now that the "bug" has entered my feeble mind, it will be hard not to follow thru . . . The road names will be those I can relate to - PRR - NYC - NH - B&O - B&M - CN & CP . . . others to follow, of course. I've thought of some Brit ‘n Euro locos too . . . <grin>
The display cases are now nearly at the priced-too-high stage for me and shipping is ridiculously priced. Locos are unbelievably expensive - especially since I'm not planning to run ‘em - so I'm not interested in DCC w/sound, etc. Just the down ‘n dirty simple ones for me - hard to find in these times. And I'm NOT about to get involved with eBay . . . not for me. Don't want to wind up with someone else's problems or junk. So, all of this will be taking more time to evolve . . .
That so called lounge area in the Renaissance service car makes me laugh - in a cynical way. There's just no comparison to be made with the areas put aside for socializing in the Budd consists. Even though we "managed" to use them to our advantage, remember the night the kids ‘n the movies put an end to our evening That wouldn't have happened in the Budd consists . . .
Many thanx for the historical fotos at Cardiff . . . something I surely didn't know of, but thanx to you ‘n "Our" Place - do now!
Looking forward to our mid-September get together . . .
Always appreciate the visits, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND!
Page 15 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:37 PM ‘n 8:44 PM <1:37 AM ‘n 2:44 AM Tuesday GMT>: First off, you Email was received ‘n responded to . . .
Foto display of your week away came thru in brilliant ‘n clear fashion! All kinds of things to gaze at . . . Your little one is growing, Mate! <grin> I wouldn't have been able to pick modern-day London out of a line-up - now I can!
"Toby" appears to have been one of those guys who frequents public places <restaurants, theatres, etc.> with cell fone firmly implanted in his ear. One of the drawbacks as a result of the unintended consequences of technology. <barf> Hooray for Hanna - way to go, kid!
Station shot of interest - the gals strolling along the platform - track - graffiti at trackside - but where's the train <grin>
Tower bridge - the wheel - river shots all <top shelf>!
Should I pursue the Brit steamers - I'll surely keep your advice in mind, although $200 is far too steep for my budget - especially since those locos will be consigned to a display case.
Couple of ROUNDs appreciated along with your two-fer! Brightened up the joint . . .
Page 15 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:59 PM <11:59 PM EDT>: Wondered whether we'd see you on this Monday holiday - ‘n there you were doing a late-nite appearance.
Liked your trio of fotos - especially the RDC-3 - don't see many of them anymore. They could be configured for two arrangements: a 40 passenger section - or - as an RPO with a baggage section.
A link for some RDC-3s:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=92867
As I mentioned, since I'm not planning to operate any of those steam locos - except to make sure they run ‘n perhaps for foto ops - there's absolutely no need to go <top drawer>. Sitting in the display case justifies that . . .
Your friend does have several USCG vessels in his collection - one is a sister ship of my last hurrah . . . if all of those were taken at the canal - I'd love to know what that 378 ft cutter was doing up your way - seagoing USCG ship in the Great Lakes - a rarity fer sure, fer sure. Since I've been "removed" from it all for TWENTY YEARS - I'm not in the loop. A truly remarkable collection of ships, fer sure, fer sure.
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n fotos!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Just time for a quick coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH.
Be back later on with my post but I thought I would drop of a couple of photos this AM .
Two phots of U.S.A. Transportation Corps 2-8-0, I believe class S 160, on the preserved East Lancs Railway. The first one is at their Bury Bolton Street station.
At one end of the ELR, # 5820 stands at Rawtenstal station
Ex LNER class B1 No.61264 at Loughborough on the Great Central Railway just visible to the left of the B1 is Royal Mail TPO carriage.
Back in a bit.
Saved again by the Wolfman who recognized the morning gap between my AM acknowledgments ‘n the VOID . . . many thanx, Mate! Will address your Post in my next go ‘round . . .
Now Arriving on Track # 1
Back in the Day - Number Twenty Two
Baltimore & Ohio's Columbian
B&O Columbian 1960 System Map <Public Domain>
The Columbian was a named passenger train operated by the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. It was the all-coach supplemental train of the all-Pullman Capitol Limited. The train's initial route was between Jersey City, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., but in 1941 the Columbian route was lengthened to Jersey City - Chicago, Illinois.The Columbian between Jersey City and Washington was the first air-conditioned passenger train in North America. Air-conditioned equipment began operating on the train on May 24, 1931.In 1949, a brand new lightweight Columbian train set for travel between Baltimore, Maryland, via Washington to Chicago was built. The consists were ordered from Pullman-Standard for April, 1949 delivery and these two train sets have the distinction of being the only all-new consists built for the B&O in the postwar period. These two eight-car streamlined trains were the only trains in the eastern U.S. to be equipped with dome cars. Although the pair were intended as a daytime operation between Chicago and Baltimore by way of Washington the two new trains entered overnight service May 5, 1949. On April 26, 1958, the B&O discontinued all passenger service between Jersey City and Baltimore, Maryland, and thereafter the eastern terminus of the Columbian was Baltimore. By the early 1960s, the Columbian was combined with the B&O's formerly all-Pullman Capitol Limited between Washington and Chicago. When Amtrak took over train service on May 1, 1971, the B&O's combined Capitol Limited - Columbian was discontinued, along with all other B&O long-distance passenger trains. <from: Wikipedia.com>
The Columbian was a named passenger train operated by the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. It was the all-coach supplemental train of the all-Pullman Capitol Limited. The train's initial route was between Jersey City, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., but in 1941 the Columbian route was lengthened to Jersey City - Chicago, Illinois.The Columbian between Jersey City and Washington was the first air-conditioned passenger train in North America. Air-conditioned equipment began operating on the train on May 24, 1931.In 1949, a brand new lightweight Columbian train set for travel between Baltimore, Maryland, via Washington to Chicago was built. The consists were ordered from Pullman-Standard for April, 1949 delivery and these two train sets have the distinction of being the only all-new consists built for the B&O in the postwar period. These two eight-car streamlined trains were the only trains in the eastern U.S. to be equipped with dome cars. Although the pair were intended as a daytime operation between Chicago and Baltimore by way of Washington the two new trains entered overnight service May 5, 1949. On April 26, 1958, the B&O discontinued all passenger service between Jersey City and Baltimore, Maryland, and thereafter the eastern terminus of the Columbian was Baltimore. By the early 1960s, the Columbian was combined with the B&O's formerly all-Pullman Capitol Limited between Washington and Chicago. When Amtrak took over train service on May 1, 1971, the B&O's combined Capitol Limited - Columbian was discontinued, along with all other B&O long-distance passenger trains.
The Columbian between Jersey City and Washington was the first air-conditioned passenger train in North America. Air-conditioned equipment began operating on the train on May 24, 1931.
In 1949, a brand new lightweight Columbian train set for travel between Baltimore, Maryland, via Washington to Chicago was built. The consists were ordered from Pullman-Standard for April, 1949 delivery and these two train sets have the distinction of being the only all-new consists built for the B&O in the postwar period. These two eight-car streamlined trains were the only trains in the eastern U.S. to be equipped with dome cars. Although the pair were intended as a daytime operation between Chicago and Baltimore by way of Washington the two new trains entered overnight service May 5, 1949.
On April 26, 1958, the B&O discontinued all passenger service between Jersey City and Baltimore, Maryland, and thereafter the eastern terminus of the Columbian was Baltimore. By the early 1960s, the Columbian was combined with the B&O's formerly all-Pullman Capitol Limited between Washington and Chicago. When Amtrak took over train service on May 1, 1971, the B&O's combined Capitol Limited - Columbian was discontinued, along with all other B&O long-distance passenger trains.
Click for remainder of article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_(B%26O)
B&O Columbian - Harper's Ferry, WV - 1949 <Public Domain>
B&O Columbian departing WashDC - 1939 <Otto Perry foto/Wikipedia.com/Fair Use>
B&O Columbian at Thomas Viaduct - 1949 <Public Domain>
A strong one please LEON.
Lost todays post, nearly finished, when the word locked up up after the puter decided to load something up by itself.The bride has tried for nearly an hour to get it back but it looks gone forever.
Some great posts to reply to so I will start again in a while..
Meanwhile a round please Leon.
First ‘n foremost - take heart Sir Moderation - in fact take the evening OFF ‘n try again in the ‘morrow. Just KNOWING that you wanted to Post means more than you may realize.
Have a LARGE tankard of Bathams on Da Bossman!
Now, in keeping with the "You Post, I Post" mantra - here's mine while it's still daylite <fading fast!>
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #18
<Initially Posted on 03 Nov 2005, Page 154 at "Our" Place I>
40 RDC's FOR THE PROGRESSIVE NEW HAVEN
If anybody should know how to carry passengers profitably it's the New Haven. Nearly half its income is derived from this source in contrast with most railroads where freight is king.
This adds significance to the fact that the New Haven has become the largest purchaser of Budd RDC's - stainless steel, self-propelled, rail diesel cars.
In the nearly three years RDC's have been operating in this country and abroad they have compiled an impressive record. In performance, they have improved every schedule they were assigned to. In operation they have proved both reliable and economical - two RDC's saved one railroad $600,000 in a year. In the comfortable, air-conditioned service they render, RDC's have increased passenger patronage - one RDC, operating in a new service between Worcester and New London, picked up 944 passengers in its first week.
The Budd Company, Philadelphia, Detroit, Gary
Budd
PIONEERS IN BETTER TRANSPORTATION
NH RDC1 #41 (foto credit: unknown/www.trainweb.org)
NH RDC3 #125 w/RDC1 (foto credit: B. Coolidge/www.trainweb.org)
NH RDC1 #40 and #37 (foto credit: B. Coolidge/www.trainweb.org)
Good evening Leon , just a nice pitcher of the draft of the day sir. An odd one weatherwise today started out foggy ended up hitting near the nineties On the upside with Gustav not being as bad as originally predicted took the wind out of the gas price sales , dropped almost nine cents a litre over night to a measily $1.21 a litre.
Tom-Interesting selection of stuff today. Nice new read on the B&O which was top drawer and I always like the ole RDC info, interesting link as well.That RDC 3 I posted the picture of was apparently the only one to survive into the VIA era , not sure if it still exists now though.
WE did see the odd USCG cutter in the canal, and yes Jeff only took shots in either the Welland canal or the odd time the Detroit River.I wonder if they sent it to the upper lakes for some training or soemthing,Every once in a while a large Canadian Ice breaking cutter will come up the canal usually with some trainee's on board.
I don't dabble in plastic steam much either,two Spectrum Consolidations are my steam fleet both modified to standard CNR practice,they don't see much action however.I've priced out those cabinets as well, the prices are always awfully high,perhaps atrip to teh lumber yard is a better option ,that or I'm not sure of stores in your neck of the woods but up here we have stroes that sell store cabinets which are sometimes cheaper than those advertised in the magazines.
Pete-Some fine looking steamers as always. The 0-8-0 a nice one.Something that came over in the lend lease era perhaps
Wednesday's Witticism
A man who hunts trouble in a saloon is apt to pass in his chips with sawdust in his beard.
And it's mid-week in mid-continent USA with the remnants of Gustav getting close. Making things wet, but cooler!
Collusion Corner is at it again - prices jumped 20 cents over nite when the hurricane neared the oil rigs - then when world prices dropped dramatically by the barrel, they're STILL up there. Yeah, ‘n we're supposed to believe . . . Dontchaluv the double-standard
It's been OVER a month since we were LOCKED at Page 63 . . . others are still perking along with far more than that. Yeah, right. <barf>
That aroma is our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee along with some fine pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery Case! <ummmmmmm> Check out our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast before heading out for the day . . .
It's "You Post, I Post" during daylite at the Bar by the Ballast!
Tuesday - September 2nd <all times Central daylite>:
Page 15 - Pete <pwolfe> at 11 AM ‘n 6:01 PM: Sorry ‘bout the ‘puter issues ‘n your lost Post. My suggestion - made before - is to shorten those epistles of yours - at least that way the loss won't be as grave. Even making a succession of brief visits is better than dropping the entire load. <ugh>
Nice spate of fotos before noon - helped to keep things on track in the AM slot . . .
Always like to view those great Brit tenders . . . smart looking, fer sure, fer sure!
Thanx for the ROUND in the PM ‘n the good cheer in the AM!
Page 15 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:03 PM <11:03 PM EDT>: Nice to see ya, Mate - been a really slooooooooooow day ‘n nite here at the Bar by the Ballast. Guess we should get used to it, for as the daylite Posts dwindle so do my offerings . . . spells DROUGHT to my way of thinking.
Your petrol drops 9 cents, ours rises 20 . . . go figger that, eh
Well, my stance on jumping into the steam loco craze didn't last long - I weakened! <uh oh> Figured why not I'm not making rail trips to Canada at the frequency I used to‘n they surely cost a hulluvalot more than the locos ‘n case. Logic, eh Call it - justification! I call this expenditure, "The trip I didn't make to the UK with Pete - purchase," and there's quite a bit left over for MORE stuff! <uh oh>
There's no wood in the cases I've purchased - all acrylic <not Lucite as I've been incorrectly saying>. Never saw ‘em in retail stores ‘round these parts . . . also locos purchased via the net are tax-free ‘n without shipping costs. Hard to beat that in a LHS . . . plus, I'm not running these things - just displays, so there shouldn't be a need for service.
Can only conjecture regarding the presence of a 378 ft Hamilton-class cutter in the Welland . . . just doesn't make sense. We have no missions in the Great Lakes to justify such a thing. Had to be something extra-special to pull one of those away from their blue-water missions.
Many thanx for the nite visit . . . just no one around to appreciate it!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Beautiful weather here today-temperatures in the 80s and clear. Gasoline prices jumped up a dime and back down again just as quickly yesterday. I am working upstream of the roofers today. This is truly nasty stuff which makes green looking smoke when it is dropped into the cooker. We are also getting furniture installed in office space so I am elsewhere.
Pete has been by with lots of material. Enjoyed the Port of Tyne locomotive. There were a lot of documents related from the UK to this side of the Atlantic during the war. The Magna Carta reappeared here on exhibit again. I remember seeing it while in DC but for the life of me I can't remember whether it was displayed at the National Archives, the Capital, or at LC. For some reason the Capital sticks in my memory. IIRC, the Granite Railway preceded the B&O in this country. Also, Trevethick engine is a fascinating bit of technology.
Rob was by with pictures and comment - a lot of enjoyable reading there.
Allan was in as well.
Nick - Good comments and stories. Agree with you on the "Blues Brothers." A mission from God, indeed. Sorry you had some trouble with the chemical engineers. Excellent travelogue and the cell phone story is outstanding. That's what I like about quiet cars on Amtrak.
OSP - PRR S1 was part of a strange experimental period that the PRR had. Many people believe that some of their designs would have worked out if the diesel had not trumped everything. The Denali Star picture enlarged nicely. Also enjoyed pictures of the lounge car and the LMS posters and other material you sent along. Smokestacks stand for progress in that Cunard poster for sure,
IMHO, you have picked two outstanding moves. "Caddyshack" is a real good one and you have selected the best and IMHO, the only version of the "Longest Yard." Also liked the B&O material. For you detail hounds, what's to the left of the B&O train in the Otto Perry picture made at Washington? The New Haven Budd shots were good as well. Block "NH" is the second livery for them. The RDC train is on the Old Colony line immediately after departing South Station.
Well, off to class - HAZCOM this time.
Will try and post more later.
Work safe
Wednesday once again ‘n time for an installment for our OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! Since Shane has visited in daylite - that enables me to reciprocate . . .
Steam Locomotives for the Can-Am Trainroom #1
These locomotives are on order <10 total> ‘n will be placed in an acrylic display case for viewing in my Can-Am Trainroom!
First five . . .
(1) PRR USRA 0-6-0 <Bachmann>
(2) NYC Mikado 2-8-2 <IHC>
(3) CN Mogul 2-6-0 <Bachmann>
(4) B&O Santa Fe 2-10-2 <IHC>
(5) CP Mikado 2-8-2 <IHC>
Next five later - when someone else Posts during daylite!
A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH.
TOM. As you say in Monday's smile to begin the week. Mr. Grenade would not have been the computer's friend last night if I had one I rewrote my post, saved and logged off before that up came Hi Tom and all (Recovered) with my original post back from the ether. If you did not you would
Many thanks for the U.K. railway posters I have only seen a couple of them before. It was great that when British Railways were formed in 1948 they carried on the tradition of the Big Four in really good quality posters like the Queen of Scots and the Windsor ones. The LMS locomotive in the Express & Cunard Liner is one of ex Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway ‘Dreadnought' 4-6-0s introduced in 1908 and rebuilt 1921, the last one was withdrawn by BR by 1953. Love the teak dining car in the LNER poster.
It seems there is a greatly different attitude to railroads in the Union Stations at St Louis and Kansas City. At KC they have a railroad museum and a large model railroad set up in the entrance around Christmas time. Like when we have visited the shops, they must do at least some trade from the Amtrak passengers. I wonder if the new bus exchange by the Amtrak station in St Louis will have at least a coffee shop, so passengers can get a drink and a snack.
I have had a look a some British models and as you say a lot of them come with DCC, which adds to the price but is not needed in a display case, must admit though I am having fun thinking of what locos I would have in the case. Classes I have seen in BR service I think.
As you say about the Renaissance lounge areas they really should have one for the kids and one for adults, I imagine the sales counter would not do a lot of trade when it is just the kids watching TV or such, compared with a group of adults socializing and having a few beers.
Glad you enjoyed the photos, I am not sure what is happing at the Maritime Museum in Cardiff, as I have not been there for several years now.
Thanks for the link to the RDC 3 with the passenger accommodation as a comparison to the all mail in the one in Rob's photo.
Many thanks for the Back in the Day on the B&O Columbian. Looking at the map it is amazing nowadays the number of ways of getting from St Louis to Washington there was in 1960 by train, not counting going up to Chicago and catching the Columbian.
I see in the text it said it was the only train in the "Eeastern US" to be equipped with dome cars, this led me to wonder what place or river determines the east from the west in the US. As I think we were reading about dome cars running from St Louis to Chicago a little while back.
Great photos I noticed the GG1 in the one of the steamer leaving Washington D.C. and that was a really great livery that suited the EMD and the cars on the Columbian.
Great to see in the 3 years since the RDC ads shown recently, how they became very popular with certain lines especially the NH ordering 40.That is a great photo of the pair leaving Boston South Station I remember CM3 providing details on the photo.
NICK I did not get to see Them but did see Taste with Rory Gallagher in the late 1960s in an all night concert with other acts in London, on the Saturday morning, after the concert, I caught the train back home and put in a few hours overtime, I was young then.
I had a look at a couple of web sites and they show the Penydarren loco with a smoothed edged flywheel, but I seem to recall seeing a similar loco with a tooth- edged flywheel, interesting.
It seems not too bad a crop of produce considering the awful weather there as been in Britain this year. There is nothing like the taste of home grown tomatoes
Many thanks for the photos of London; what a great sky in photos 3 & 4 if an artist had painted it they would say the clouds were far fetched. Do you know what the building is with the 4 large chimneys is in the right side of photo 3.
The last time I took a river trip on the Thames was on a school trip in the early 60s there have been a great deal of change on the riverside since then.
I see Hannah has found a 4- legged friend; I wish I could have been on that train with the guy with the mobile phone, well done Hannah. To think they are considering their use on aircraft, can you imagine 4AM on the redeye over the Atlantic with someone yelling there head off in to a phone.
ROB Glad you liked the photos.
Yes Jeff's web site has great collection of the ships that are on the Great Lakes.
Many thanks for the CN photos I can always look at locomotives and railways in the snow and a great photo of the RDC 3 by your uncle, it would be great if it still did exist today. I noticed the numbers on the cab side if the Geep #7046 seem in a different style.
The S 160s came over to Britain and did work some trains on BR before they were shipped to Main Land Europe. The RR Relay Book Steel Rails to Victory has some great photos of these locomotives in Britain and in Europe.
CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos. With the Port Of Tyne loco I believe our factory made the traction motor, we had had two of the design including the prototype which was named Mazda, both of which were preserved,. We had quite a network of rail tracks at the works, so tales for Rendezvous IV perhaps.
That is interesting about the Historic Documents being this side of the Atlantic during the war. It makes sense especially in the dark days of 1940 when an invasion of Britain looked imminent. I guess it was top secret at the time but it would be fascinating to know what treasures were sent overseas during that time.
Thanks for the information on the Granite Railway.
Well RUTH I'm afraid this has got a bit long so a round please while I look at Tom.s models.
Pete made it "in" with that mysteriously lost ‘n found Post! Hmmmmmm - we can't have Gremlins foolin' with our Interim Governor General! Good to see ya . . .
Steam Locomotives for the Can-Am Trainroom #2
The final five of the steam locos on the way to my Can-Am Trainroom !
(6) CN Mikado 2-8-2 <IHC>
(7) NYC Prairie 2-6-2 <Bachmann>
(8) PRR Santa Fe 2-10-2 <IHC>
(9) NH Hudson 4-6-4 <Bachmann>
(10) B&O Mikado 2-8-2 <IHC>
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