G'day Gents!
Good to see our Manager - and - Bar Chandler visit with us during the daylite hours of mid-afternoon on this Wednesday!
No, Sir Moderation - the Gazette "clip" was about Charlie Brightlite <see Tuesday AM acknowledgments> . . .
Specific comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . .
Here's one for Eric as he makes ready for his trip to Sweden! Hmmmm, appears these folks are in the UK! <grin>
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Rule of Six suspended <by two>!
Eastbound to Dallas in cab of TRE RDC #2011
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(20) Cab controls
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More to follow!
Tom
As a departure from my policy of trying to avoid back-to-back Posts - we're at a multiple of TEN - time to remind all on-lookers of the way we do things 'round here <from Page One>
"Our" Place III was locked today by Kalmbach, so "Our" Place IV has begun on this 31st day of July 2008.Final statistics for "Our" Place III:REPLIES: 1,254VIEWS: 25,965PAGES: 63* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *The links to the old bars:#1 - http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587#2 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/201/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960#3 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/63/1500733/ShowPost.aspx#1500733<Note: #1 had 451 Pages - #2 had 201 Pages - #3 had 63 Pages . . . hmmmmmm> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains." The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains. All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.Objective: Have fun!Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch. Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Final statistics for "Our" Place III:
REPLIES: 1,254
VIEWS: 25,965
PAGES: 63
The links to the old bars:
#1 - http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587
#2 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/201/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960
#3 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/63/1500733/ShowPost.aspx#1500733
<Note: #1 had 451 Pages - #2 had 201 Pages - #3 had 63 Pages . . . hmmmmmm>
What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.
History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.
Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains."
The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains.
All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.
Objective: Have fun!
Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch.
Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.
Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Well good evening gentlemen all-As I am just back from a couple of weeks away,I thought I ought to poke my head round the door,perhaps buy a round or two (Leon:-make it so #1) and generally act the penitant:-.......
O.K-penitant only works for so long-Well chaps-am delighted to be back in my own bed-is lovely to visit and stay in touch,also to get `stuff` taken care of when needful but there is nothing to beat one`s own bed..........
Will be right back atcha-but for now,this is me signing out......
Good evening Leon, I see that Boris is grinning ear to ear ( or it might just be gas ) hard to tell with Boris after all . I'll have a Keith's at the far end of the bar just in case it is gas. Right a round for the house as well Leon , we gots to pay the bills .
Nick-How wonderfull to have our minstral and head back. Boris was so happy that he baked a cake, however I would just appear to sample it, swallowing may not be advisable.Good to see you back and refreshed from your holiday,Boris was counting the "sleeps" until you got back.
Tom-Ahh yes our first multiple of bar mk 4,only five more to go <bratafratz grrrr > More fine photo's from Dallas.Thinking out loud I wonder if Dick even visits the forums anymore I've not seen his cyber name on it really since he left here.Hopefully he's alright.
Lets see a few more photo's to liven the joint up with.
The TTC's only remaining small Witt 2766 used for the occational charter,seen here on Bloor street in the early 80's
A recent shot of London 23 in barn three at the museum. this weekend the long awaited excavating of barn four begins as well
Another shot of our small Witt 2894
Montreal and Southern Counties 107 ( museum's third car ) on the line beside barn one.
A shot from the Rockhill museum in PA of the only surviving and operable Cincinnati Car Company curve sider
enjoy
Rob
<personal foto from ExpoRail>
Seems there's been sufficient activity in daylite 'n darkness to warrant some catch-up acknowledgments!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Wednesday - August 20th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 9 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:52 AM: Our WVA slave to fashion made it in with some super-fine material on the NYCs passenger service between New York City ‘n St. Louis.
As always, a fine start to our morning, with a ROUND for the "flies" 'n quarters for Herr Wurlitzer!
Page 9 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:12 PM: And enter the Bar Chandler with fare for all . . .
I've also wondered whether what we heard at ExpoRail ever came to fruition regarding that great film we watched. From time to time I've done web searches, hoping to find something regarding that steam presentation. Nothing.
Didjano that IMax had it's origins in Canada - Expo 1967 in Montréal In 1971, IMax was permanently installed in a Toronto theatre. Later, OmniMax came on scene for its first showing in San Diego in 1973.
Info from: http://www.omsi.edu/visit/omnimax/specs.cfm
Thanx for the fotos ‘n descriptions of your Newcastle rail tour!
Yes, there's quite a bit to check out in those Can-Am Train Room display cases . . . best seen by enlarging ‘em, of course.
This should be year 2 of the 5 year renewal of the contract to run the Chaleur, if what I heard is correct. If they ever drop the Budd equipment, that would be the end of my interest in that run. No fun without a dome - absolutely no interest from me, should that happen. I'm just pleased that I've had the opportunity to experience such a great round-trip as I did this past spring.
Good to have you aboard on this day ‘n appreciate the < I3 > Post, fotos ‘n ROUND! Your next pint is on me! <clink>
Page 9 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 3:18 PM ‘n 3:35 PM: What Ho! Our Manager has dropped by during the mid-afternoon as well!
Sorry, Mate - one cannot "try" that which one has been consuming for years! <geesh>
After giving Ruth the afternoon off, I gotta hug that wouldn't quit! I've still got the indentations! <oooooooops> Hope Cindy doesn't notice . . . <grin>
Don't really want to wager a guess regarding our man in west Wales, but he's sorely missed. <groan>
Eight gradients, top speed 35 mph - pretty much comes out just a tad above 4 mph per "notch." Anyway, surely wouldn't want the union folks to be upset about something that shudda been for fun, rather than anything else. Oh well, what do I know Curious mind needs to know - who owns the car - TTC or the Halton County museum
Last time I saw him, CharlieBrightlite was walking with a definitive limp - in more than one place <limp, that is!>. . . <ouch>
Wunnerful traction shots - all!
Most appreciative for your daylite visits - they really mean a lot when it comes to the "You Post, I Post" idea . . . otherwise, there'd be zip, zero, zilch from me ‘til the acknowledgments. Then if no one Posted - there'd be none of that either! <groan>
ROUND, chat ‘n Pix deserve a top-up from the bar keep! <clink>
Page 9 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:02 PM <2:02 AM Thursday GMT>: Can it be Is it really Nah, must be a mirage . . . <grin> But - wait a sec, "someone" purchased a ROUND in his name! Hmmmmmm.
Page 9 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:22 PM: Back to complete a trifecta with a splendid spate of traction!
Mr. Watkins was seen logged on several times after he departed the scene here. Not regularly - as some have been - but now ‘n then. Most strange thing when guys you begin to think you know - just skedaddle out the door. He's surely not alone with that behavior . . . but that was then ‘n this is NOW.
Thanx for the 2nd ROUND, fotos ‘n chat!
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Rob. We are a bit lucky down here stormwise, but we do get the tail ends` of some of the Pacific cyclones` now and then, but we can`t complain too much. Some very interesting info on those old RCN cruisers`. A very nice selection of trolley pix from you, they operated some similar looking open tram`s in Llandudno, North Wales, from what I remember BITD.
Eric. Fine pix of your PC den with all the pictures and plaques, a great workspace layout, and the Alco # plate. Have a safe and happy trip back to your old home country, if you see the ABBA girls`, Birgit and Freda, say a BIG "Hi" from me.
CM3. Thanks for that info on your Dad`s job. Very interesting info on the "Southwestern Limited" car consist.
Dan. A nice continuation of your Eurostar trip with the links to the Gare info and pix. Very interesting links to the canal and the RAF sites` with all the info and pix. My bride and I spent our honeymoon in Hastings in 1961, we travelled on that line on the trip to Hastings, some more nostalgic memories you conjured up for me again, thanks for that.
Pete. Some more great memories of your Co-Op bike delivery happenings`. Interesting to read that the coach was used in the G&I tramway as well as the Gateshead tram. Great write up on your Canny Coalman trip, all those familiar place name`s make`s me wish I could see them once again. My bride brought back quite a lot of photos` of the Beamish main street area etc and the the vistor`s guide book. A couple of good shots of the Class 37 and 56.
Nick. Great to see you in on a quick visit mate.
Tom. It`s exactly the same over here as well, you have to be very PC in what you say and do in public, it`s getting beyond a joke! Had a great laugh at that Mentor Village Gazette story on the projectionist`s predicament, we had to keep our sleeves` rolled up threading up and working around the projectors` just in case! A really fine couple of sets of pix of your Dallas RDC trip, some really great cab shots indeed. Very interesting Fallen Flags` #12 on the NYC RR passenger trains with those Drumhead pix, and a beautiful spread of pix of your Display Cases` in the Can Am train room, you have a very comprehensive collection of model trains that's for sure. That`s a great ABBA poster you put up for Eric`s trip back home.
See ya, Allan
Good evening again Leon. Looks like you've had the busiest shift shift today.Oh well that's what happens round this joint.Might as well have a top up.
Tom-Nice photo of the Rocket, Montreal's first electric streetcar.To clarify 327 is the museum's.The TTC requested we send it back for their 80th birthday parade ( which we did ) as they have done and still do a lot of stuff for us.
As a side bar if Pete can try then so can I.
Allan-Good to see you in again tonight That was a nice picture of the gang from Sweden that Tom found for Eric I think the open streetcar or breezers as some of teh US systems called them were a fixture on most of the bigger systems,espeacially if there was a body of water near by.They were the summer treat for the trolley passengers.I'm glad that you found those old RCN cruisers interesting.I'm sure that when the Australian and New Zealand navies were created that they got some help and old equipment from England as well.
Well since Nick is back here are a couple more photo's to amke him happy.I'm sure that Tom will pant over the one as well.
A shot of GP 9 1604 in Cochrane Ontario with the Polar Bear express parked in behind.
Same locmotive this time in North Bay Ontario.
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, tonight is the night for my favorite Rumpsteak Café de Paris!!! Yes, a cold Tui would be perfect! Oh, here is enough $$$ to give all the guys a free drink next time they show up.
Last night I can stop by here for a while. I am leaving Friday morning for the old country and will be back September 7. I'm bringing my laptop so hopefully I will be able to stop by a few times during my vacation, but I don't have any dates. So, you better be careful, watch out for Vito, you can't trust him.
Tom – Well, I still think you should go through all your slides. I am sure you have forgotten some of the good ones! You are correct about no place being 100% safe and secure. But we don’t want to sell this house (almost all paid for) and start paying on a new mortgage. But, as I said, if (when) we win the powerball we can buy the place we want cash! I know there was more than one named train in western Canada, but I never heard the name Super Continental before. They still build very long lasting locomotives and cars for the railroads. The oldest electrics in daily service in Sweden today, class Ma, are 48-55 years old, still going strong. The most common type, class Rc, were built 1967-1987 (same as Amtrak’s AEM-7). Next time I get to Dallas I am going to take a ride in one of those RDCs. Very nice cab shots from your ride! Hope you don’t mind I adjusted your photo #21. Here it is.
Tom's photo #21. A lot of details! I think he took this photo because of the lady in the rear view mirror!
Ahh, I love those “retired” trains you have on display in the Can-Am room! Including RDCs!A minor adjustment of the Rendezvous III plaque has been done! Thank you for the ABBA photo! She, Frida (the brunette), looks gorgeous as always! But that photo was taken some years ago. CM3 – The Climax was donated to the museum by Sunkist Growers, Inc. and its subsidiary, Fruit Growers Supply Company. Pretty steep price on the book, but I think it is possible to find it cheaper. Yes, it is amazing how many things that have to be done before leaving on a trip. I have a long to-do-list for tomorrow, Thursday. DL – Glad you liked the photos! I am not a big peanut fan so I’ll pass! Prefer pretzels. Or real food!!Pete – I see that you have the same kind of memory I have, will remember numbers but not names! So you are going to pay Vito? I guess you better play it safe! You should recognize the scanner! Mine is still working just fine. I hope you are satisfied with yours. A larger picture of my painting? I’ll fix that when I get back. Thanks for the trip report! Class 56 looks modern! September 1993, that is almost exactly 15 years ago!Rob – You are right, very few of those old, classic looking, ships survive today. Most warships preserved today are from WW II. I like those old fashion singe truck cars! They are special! I actually worked on some of that type back in the early 1960’s! They were called Jitterbugs, it’s not too hard to understand why. Nice photos of the double truck car! Career as a water color painter? Thank you, but I don’t think so! I used to draw a lot of sketches of different things in younger days, but not any more. Today I am using the computer to create pictures of different kinds. I like the photos of the PCCs! #4600 is a very good looking one! That Cincinnati Car Company car is indeed a different looking car! I like it!GP 9 #1604 has been doing a lot of hard work in its life time! Nice photos! Nick – Good to see you again, Sir! Now it is my turn to be away for a couple of weeks.Allan – Ooops, I think you have the same kind of memory as Pete and I, hard to remember names! The ABBA girls are Agneta and Frida! But I'll remember to tell them a BIG Hi from you if and when I see them.
I don't remember if I showed this photo earlier. Anyway, here it is (again).
Williams, AZ.
Eric
<IT Rail bus at MoT, Kirkwood, MO - personal foto>
And it's Thursday <already> - my, my how time flies, eh
Breakfasts, pastries ‘n coffee are all fresh ‘n ready to go!
I see CINDY has come in early . . . she'll be working Ruth's shift 'til Tuesday . . . <pant> <pant>
Page 10 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:10 PM <4:10 PM Thursday NZ time>: Figured you'd get a laff from poor Charlie Brightlite's plight in the booth! <yikes>
Appreciate your comments regarding the Can-Am Train Room's display cases - much of that stuff had been relegated to being boxed up ‘n outta sight. Once I got back to the hobby ‘n constructed the train room, it seemed like a good idea to put those loco's ‘n rolling stock on view. Took awhile to come up with "exactly" what I was looking for - but as you can see, the cases do justice to the collection. Most of what is in them are "budget" priced - hardly what's become of the hobby today. What's on my layout - now that's ‘nother story - but still far cheaper than the "trendy" ‘n "super expensive" HO offerings out there now.
Every now ‘n then I'd show flicks aboard ship - when our regular projectionist was unavailable. Used to spend lots of time rethreading . . . <groan> Of course the guys were always "helpful" with their <hooting> ‘n <hollering> while the ship was rockin' ‘n rollin' and poor Moi was trying to do the best I could with equipment that probably came out right after the candle-powered versions! <grin>
Anything with the ABBA gals is special . . . but those TUI brewery gals are super-fine as well! <pant> <pant>
Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 10 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:23 PM: Back again for a quadsome at the bar - busy, busy boy on Wednesday! Wondering if the Editor was about the decks. Hmmmmmm.
Since the museum owns the car - what in the world do the unions have to do with operating it Just musing - no need to engage on this. Just kinda sez a lot about the stranglehold, eh <barf>
I'm <panting> over that dome car behind the great looking ONR diesel! More - more <on the car that is!>
Thanx for #4 . . .
Thursday - August 21st:
Page 10 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:05 AM <11:05 PM Wednesday Sandbox time>: Last visit for awhile - but not as long an absence as I had been thinking . . . that's a PLUS <for us!> September 7th isn't that far off . . .
Great foto enhancement . . . I'll retain that one for my album - thanx! Didn't even know there was a gal in the rear view - was looking at the one through the cab window! <grin>
Well if I MUST - I'll "settle" for the blonde . . . I KNOW how you are regarding brunettes!
Figured the "tapping" would work with your plaque foto - hope Pete ‘n Shane pick up on it too.
You'll enjoy the rail offerings in Dallas - it would be even better for a mini-Rendezvous! But, as mentioned, we haven't a connection down there anymore . . . Per was the last ‘n last I heard he was heading back to SoCal . . . Wonder why he left us without so much as a good-bye Always enjoyed his company ‘round here. He's been sighted on the Forums - many times since. Oh well, his loss too.
I think that #5 in Williams was shown a time or two - but ALWAYS enjoy see her again!
Appreciate the < I3 > Post, good cheer ‘n cash for a ROUND!
Bon voyage my friend ‘n we'll be thinking of you, hoping everything turns out even better than anticipated!
Reminder:Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Good weather continues today - hard to believe we were under water last week at this time.
Rob - Lotsa PCC pictures - lovely! Also enjoyed the ON shots.
Nick - Nah! It's a mirage - I think....
Allan - Good to hear from you as well.
Eric - Safe travels.
Pete - Employee trains in the U.S. were not just confined to mining. Many cases they carried miners or employees from home to the job site. It all depended on where you were as many mines in WV had company towns largely because of their isolated locations. It was different in other places where mines were developed after town were already in place.
"Canny Coalman?" Yikes - where did they come up with that? No Boris, it's not the same as Choo Choo Coleman (I'm sure OSP remembers him). I would have enjoyed that tour as it covered a lot of territory.
NYC 78 was the "Paul Revere." It carried sleepers from Cleveland, Cincinnati, and St. Louis to Boston, a Buffalo-Albany sleeper, and Pittsburgh to Massena. I know I talked about this one a long time ago here This last car operated via Utica, Rome, and Watertown; one of the more exotic NYC Pullman lines. A diner ran between Albany and Boston. Coaches operated from Cleveland and St. Louis to Boston. The St. Louis cars, of course, were handed off from train 12 at Cleveland.
Now here's one for Rob. Again from NYC in 1950; one I would have liked to have ridden. This was a NYC-D&H-Rutland interline train.
Train 144 "Laurentian-Green Mountain Flyer"
Diner Montreal-Troy (D&H 34); Troy-New York
Coaches Montreal-New York (from D&H 34 at Troy); Montreal-New York (from RUT 64 at Troy)
That's all I can stands, I can's stands no more.
OSP was in with more study shots of track and signals. The sunkist can is a nice touch - around here, it's a Stanley thermos. The plaque photo has been fine. It sits beside the EMD-produced lithograph of an A-B-A set of Wabash F units in what passes for my office space. I know what you mean about prices of hobby stuff - I really watch the $ that way.
Work Safe
Shane has been "in" with more classic trains insights! And of course a ROUND 'n quarters - his staple 'round here! <grin> More specifics in my next set of acknowledgments!
More from my 2005 Dallas Rail Adventure with Dick Watkins . . .
Good morning Cindy, always a pleasure to see you Just a quick belt of CR in the coffee thermos please. No Boris I don't wish any of the prune danishes , who keeps ordering these anyway , Pete the chandler must be having "flow" problems again, too much rich food as intern Governor General.
Eric-Nice fix up of Tom's photo the two brunettes ( rearview mirror and out in front ) almost look related. they grow them well in Texas < pant pant > I hope that you have a pleasant trip , hopefully we do see you a couple times along the way , but if not no worries mate we'll keep your seat warm for you . No Boris don't put the blow torch under the stool , just go feed the critters .
Isn't it amazing how long locomotives electric and otherwise can last depending on teh amount of care an attention.CN ran their EE built Z1a box cabs in Montreal for an incredible length of time. They were built in the early 1900's and most were not retired until the 90's. A few are still around as back-ups in case the newer EMU's ( themselves ) almost 40 years old fail.
Tom-Another fine spat of Dallas shots.That Indiana and Ohio locomotive looks like it's a ways from home though .I'd love to give you more phoot's of the dome car but alas that's the onlu one I have. I'm more of a motive power guy when I shoot photo's. However Heather and I are concidering a run on either the Polar bear or the Algoma Central for our vacation in September. Not to worry it's the last week of the month running into October,so I'll give plenty of warning before we head out for the week.Perhaps Boris can build an infaltable robotioc version of me to keep an I on Pete. <grin>
Shane-I'm glad you enjoyed the PCC's and other photo's Thanks for the DH passenger tain info,I'm keeping it in the memory
Lets see oh yes Cindy since I've been in a bit longer hows about a refill Keep the change, you can put it towards the next Ladies of Perpetual Motion Victoria Secret fashion shows <pant pant >
A couple more photo's for the gang ( one's I don't think I've shown before as I've been scaning the old shots this week,some are mine some are my uncles some are one's I've picked up here and there )
A CP SW1500 ( ex Soo line probably ex Milw ) switching at Binghamton NY in 2002
CP torpedo tube GP 9 at Aberdeen Yard in Hamilton 1987 right before she went through the Calgary rebuild shop.
CP GP9u rebuild at Galt ontario in 2002 , oddley enough when I checked the roster info this is the same locomotive as the last picture a before and after (15 years apart )
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please CINDY as RUTH is away on a few days break.
ROB Thanks for the details on No. 327 in the parade on the TTC.
Although those other London cars could not be saved it was good some parts were able to be used for the preserved car.
Many thanks for the great photos from your museum. I did like the night photo; it is a rare sight nowadays to see the old vehicles at night. I think late is a great color scheme PCC #s 4000 and 4600 are in. No 23 looks to be coming on really well in its renovation.
Great news about Barn 4.How many trolleys will it be able to accommodate when it is finished
Like the photo of Ontario Northland # 1604 with the dome car in the background and thanks for the CP photos, GP 9 # 8516 looks not to be in too bad a condition considering it is about to enter works.
I too don't understand why the Prune Danishes have reappeared in great numbers again not for me though; I use the real ale method of regulation.
NICK Great to see you back in the bar. Thanks for the round.
ALLAN I can recall seeing photos of a tramway hat ran between Llandudno and Colwyn Bay but unfortunately I cannot recall it running.
Glad you enjoyed the Canny Coalman trip details and the photos. It is great looking through my old notes of trips for it brings back memories and details I had forgotten of the day, like finding that café open in the early morning in Newcastle. I bet the area the train traveled is a lot different now to what is today, I really wish I had been able to do that tour in the 1950s.
I would enjoy another visit to Beamish; it is a few years now since I was last there.
ERIC Have a really great holiday.
Yes the scanner is working well I have copied over 650 photos already. I do think though there is a lot more I could do with it when I find out how.
I will look forward to seeing a larger photo of your painting when you get back.
It is hard to believe it was 15 years ago since the Canny Coalman tour, as I said to Allan, when looking through the notes some trips seem like yesterday.
Many thanks for the photos. Saginaw & Manistee Lumber Co. Shay No 5 looks in great condition.
CM3. I guess the railroad companies as well, ran special trains just for employees to their works and depots.
Yes the Canny Coalman was a good tour made possible by the overnight journey to get to the area. It was run by Pathfinder Railtours who had some great names for their tours, often with a name relating to the area the tour was traveling will let Allan explain the word ‘Canny' which is a word usually used in the Newcastle-on-Tyne area. One of favorite train names from Pathfinder was ‘The Rylestone Cowboy' which visited a branch line that served a Quarry of that name.
Many thanks for the details on Trains 78 ‘Paul Revere'.Was much of the Pittsburgh to Massena line traveled in daylight.
I see in the latest Trains Magazine (September) there is a photo of 5 Shays and a Heisler at Cass Depot on the West Virginia Cass Scenic Railroad it is a great sight.
TOM I did say Charlie in my post Tuesday but somehow it got changed to George yesterday.
It would be good to run into the females in that station cleaning crew on my trip over there.
Many thanks for the great photos from the RDC cab in Dallas. In photo #28 they look like UP diesels you are passing and in photo #29 it is a Indiana & Ohio locomotive as the second unit, a railroad I know very little about and I don't think I have seen one of their locomotives before.
It seems we have turned to page 10 on Our Place IV in very quick time.
Thanks for the link to I-Max. I though there was some connection between I-Max and Montreal, the cinema will have to be one of the first things to visit if we get to Exporail again.
Yes I think as well it will be a very sad day on the Chaleur if those Budd cars are replaced by Renaissance cars. I was very glad I was able to sample them although on our trip we were not able to get all the way to Gaspe.
I think you fixed my Rendezvous Plaque during your visit here.
Thanks for the pint..
A couple of photos of BR Standard locomotives.
Br Standard class 4 4-6-0 No. 75014 at Edinburgh Waverley station before heading a special to Inverness. This class of locos were not common in Scotland. In 1958 75014 was allocated to Chester shed.
75014 takes water on a special southbound on the Settle & Carlisle line at Garsdale. 75014 has been given a bit of the appearance of the last days of BR steam with the missing numberplate etc.
Another photo of 9F 'Spaceship' 2-10-0 No. 92212 on the Great Central Railway this time at Rothley station.I like the scene where one of the station staff is talking to one of the crew. It is strange to think that 92212 was not built yet in 1958 but in 1959 was allocated to Banbury shed.
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Well CINDY a round pleaseand the Fish 'N' Chips a bit later.
Pete.
A fine afternoon with our Manager ‘n Bar Chandler making daylite submissions for the enjoyment of the crew! As always, comments in my next round of acknowledgments - but by all means, have one on me - Cindy - fill ‘em up! <grin>
Now Arriving on Track #1
Six Pack Special Number Fourteen
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
International Special
(1) Ireland
(2) Amsterdam-Kopenhagen Express
(3) Canadian National Railways - Through Canada
(4) Denmark - Lillebaltsbroen <1951>
(5) Lapland - Sweden
(6) Norwegian State Railways
Enjoy!
Good afternoon Leon , the place has been busy today which is good ( sould be the new scenery behind the bar not that the old scenery was bad ) just a Guiness while I collect my thoughts,I've left a twenty for a late afternoon round as well.
Pete-More great photo's sir,nice to know that the scanner is working upto it's full potential for you , also you must be keeping the black bag away from the scanner Once barn four is completed next year it ashould be able to house 30-36 pieces of equipment so everything that is needing restoration will have a home away from the elements and away from the vandels.
Tom-Now there are some fine fine posters,caught just about every corner of our ,<GOR's> territory with those. Thanks for the top up,seem's Cindy has brought out the best in us today
Lets see a couple more new one's from the museum for everybody.
An open side shot of 23. Which restoration is now complete,she gets speacial occation use only at the moment as we haven't started a comprehensive operators training on her yet.
A shot of our first car 1326 at the 2005 50th aniversary festivities. Museum member #1 John Mills is at the controls.
Crane Car C1 sunning itself in Yard three. ( in front of Barn 3 )
Oshawa Line car 45 parked in yard two also on the 50th aniversary day
Some action today - so time for a leg up on the acknowledgments . . .
Thursday - August 21st <all times Central daylite>:
Page 10 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:11 AM: Meant to make comment on the NYC run from St. Louis to NY City - no diner between Buffalo ‘n Grand Central That's a bit odd, wouldn't ya think Hmmmm. Anyway, appreciate those kinds of things - which I really enjoy digging out from time to time in my copy of the Almanac.
How I would have luvd to have traveled the Laurentian - especially if powered by those great looking Alco's with the D&H bonnet livery! Yeah, that wudda been totally <sweet>.
Pleased to know that your Rendezvous III plaque has a place of significance . . . that was the idea!
Sorry to disappoint, but Choo Choo Coleman didn't ring a bell. I know NOW - since I searched - but . . .
By the by - I'm nearly half-way thru The Killing of History! A struggle - really a difficult read for the likes of Moi. And here I had TWO minors - sociology ‘n anthropology <straight As, by the by!!> Anyway, it's pretty much written as a text . . . which to me has always been defined as "Open book - eyes slam shut!" <grin> Anyway, there's quite a bit to digest 'n I'm not sorry that I finally got A-ROUNDTUIT! <grin>
As always, thanx for the quarters, ROUND ‘n fine chat! This place is always made better with you on board . . .
Page 10 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 1:21 PM: One aspect of being married to a university teacher <Ed-U-Muh-Kay-Tuh> is that we always miss out on some of the finest times of the year in terms of getting away. The Fall in Nova Scotia, for example - or anywhere for that matter when the leaves are turning - just can't take off for an extended period. No "substitutes" in college when it comes to teaching . . . So, our "windows" for vacations are pretty much solidified into the Christmas break <longest one of the year> ‘n early May to early June <which isn't bad>. Would dearly love to make that late September trip with you though . . . sounds like a winner!
Just may shut the place down when you're gone - for with you AND Pete away, this place will definitely be a daylite morgue. <ugh> Although I believe he departs around the beginning of October . . .
Nice spate of CP motive power - like the variations on the GP9 . . . watch for a couple of those coming up on my Dallas spread.
Someone better own up to those prune Danishes, otherwise we've going to put ‘em in the blender ‘n send ‘em over to The Mentor Village Dispensary ‘n Septic Tank Cleaners for use as enemas! <yikes>
I know this may be hard for you to believe <since you KNOW me!> but there wasn't any time for gal-watching during that Dallas trip! Honestly - Mr. Watkins had me on the move from the beginning ‘til the end of the day. It was a fantastic whirl-wind event. <phew> Rear view mirror notwithstanding . . . <grin>
That Indiana & Ohio unit was on "loan" according to what Dave the Engineer said.
Many thanx for your fine <I3> Post, fotos ‘n good cheer!
Page 10 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:25 PM: Yeah sure, next you'll tell me is that "the Editor" was at work. Hmmmmm. Okay, stranger things have happened ‘round here - especially to YOU! <grin> Charlie Brightlite it was!
One of the guys I spoke with during my round trip aboard the Chaleur was of the opinion that the "European junk" would NOT be put on the line. But he quickly pointed out that VIA Rail has frequently done precisely the opposite of what their experienced people have thought. Anyone's guess . . . An inescapable bit of logic is that dome cars are not revenue producing - in other words, they are simply "fluff" - extra. So with the wrong mix of bean counters ‘n people at the helm, who knows what the next iteration of cars will be like for those wonderful Budd cars traversing the landscape I'd like to see some serious exploration of the single level UltraDomes from Colorado RailCar . . . all seats would provide revenue - and of course provide one hulluva view! Of course the ideal would be some double-deckers too . . . but all of that translates to big dollars. Again, anyone's guess . . .
I may have fixed your plaque, but I forgot to bring along a hammer ‘n nails to put ‘em BOTH up! <grin>
Hate to break the news to ya, Mate - but IF you were to "run into" the ABBA gals at any of those stations you plan to use, they'll probably look quite different! <grin> Too bad they have to age, eh
Nice spate of fotos - I like #92212 best!
Many thanx for your <I3> Post, chat, fotos ‘n
Page 10 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 4:42 PM: Back with another ROUND ‘n trolley fotos <what else>, eh Super-fine shots, Mate!
Methinks your museum needs some help from Vito's Electricity ‘r US! Specializing in the newest innovation in perimeter fencing, called Vandals B-gone - Zap, Another One Bites the Dust! <uh oh>
Glad you liked the International set of posters . . . hope Eric gets to check ‘em out. I know he'll be looking ‘in' - for he's got quite a "gadget" that permits him to be on-line virtually anywhere. Not sure if that includes Europe - but we'll see.
50th years of anything is quite formidable - so we visited Halton County's fine museum during the 51st year, eh Not bad . . .
Sounds like the barn you described will be a monster. Is it replacing anything that we saw during Rendezvous I
Again - appreciate the visit, ROUND, chat ‘n fotos!
Tom. Sounds as if you had to be a jack of all trades whilst at sea showing the flicks sometimes, it was hard enough threading up again after a film snap on terra firma never mind a rocking ship, they were very frustrating moments as you could hear the patrons yahooing and stomping their feet till the flick was running again. Some more great cab shots from your Dallas RDC adventure, those sky`s look really stormy when you took the pix. Your wall display cases` make a really great feature in your trainroom, they really look the part with all your retired model RR gear on show.
Rob. The NZ and Australian navies started off in similar fashion to the RCN with very much the same type of cruisers`. A fine spread of colourful diesel and trolley pix from your extensive collection.
Eric. My old memory is playing tricks again as far as those ABBA gals names are concerned, knew that the brunettes name was Frida, i`m very partial to brunettes. Interesting rear view mirror shot in that cab pic of Tom`s you posted and a fine Climax shot too. Bon Voyage for your trip back to the old country, have a very enjoyable time over there, and take care too.
CM3. Some interesting info on the "Paul Revere" passenger car consist and the "Laurentian-Green Mountain Flyer" train.
Pete. The last time that I saw those Llandudno trams` was in 1952, will have to look on the net to see if they`ve restored any of the line. Those Newcastle area place name`s you visited on that Canny Coalman trip, it was like taking a step back in history reading through them. Some nice pix of the BR Standard Class 4 and 9F locos` with the info that 92212 was not built till 1959. Like you i`d love to visit Beamish sometime, at least you`ve had a visit there so i`m a bit envious, you never know ,you might squeeze in a visit during your up coming trip back?
Good evening Leon , just a small pitcher of draft tonight .Figured that I would pop back in this evening to catch up before teh oevr night crew gets in.
Tom-Sooo Dick kept you hopping , oh well it's good for the blood circulation n speacially with all those things you say you didn't have a chance to watch wondering about. I figured that that wayward locomotive must have been either a loner or a recent purchase , good to know that engineer Dave was on top of things.
Don't worry about September we will be getting back right about when Pete is leaving,would love to have you with us but hey we'll enjoy the sights for you.
Barn four is in edition to what we already have , all four barns will be and are needed.What will ahppen is it will allow us to do two things. First we get the outside stored cars and subway trains inside and protected.Second it gets permanent homes for the four cars that currently live in barn two which is our restoration building with all the shop equipment and the inspection pit.That means we can actually get back to restoring cars as we will have a place to take them apart in and work on them.
Okay another pitcher there Leon <burp> the draft ain't all that bad tonight Lets see a couple last shots for one and all.
A rare treat. VIA FP pulling one of the daily trains through Brantford in 1989, right at the tail end of the blue line cars and F's.
Two of the ex CP F units that were brought in by the Wisconsin Central to run the Agawa Canyon trains in the late 90's. Photo at Sault Ste Marie Ont. in 2002.
CP F7 in Toronto's John street yard in 1984.
Another CP F this time in the Aberdeen yard in Hamilton in 1983
Well Leon I see we have a bit of company in the form of our local NZ connection Allan. Top up his glass of Tui for me won't you my lad.
Allan-So you and Tom share the same horror stories of the films snapping and then having to rethread them. I remember having to fix one's in school but the crowds there were not as rowdy,seeing as the filmboard educational flicks were not always that new, or interesting.Glad that you've been enjoying all the photo's.
Well since I'm still here how about another couple...
A gaggle of PCC's on the Harbourfront line in the 80's.
Herer's a neat one one of the Montreal tramways four purpose built sightseeing cars.This one is car #2.It's preserved at the Seashore trolley Museum in Kennebunkport Maine.This shot was taken in 2002 by one of our friends and museum counterparts that was down there swapping parts with the Seashore folks.Interestingly all four of Montreal's sightseers were saved. the only one still in Canada is at Exporail.
Another Canadian ex-pat also at Seashore is this single truck snowsweeper.Ottawa's B2
Here is a neat shiot from the museum archieves.It is a Niles built double truck car originally bought by TTC predessesor Toronto Civic RR. Seen here on Westin Ave in the early 50's while running out it's life on the TTC.The car was 40 years old in this picture.We had this car in our collection but it was scrapped in 1986 as it was too far beyond our ability to refurbish it.These were a 90% wooden car, with a metal underframe. Dry rot, and rust was too far along to make restoration possible.
Friday's Grin
Lines To Make You Smile
I Work Hard Because Millions On Welfare Depend on Me!
<phew> Finally made it - Friday ‘n the end of the work week <for many>! What better way to start the morning that with us Fill up those mugs with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend - check out those fresh pastries in The Mentor Village Baker case! And if you have the time, order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast to jump start your morning!
The long awaited rains arrived, providing most welcome relief for the green things ‘n creatures inhabiting the trees, shrubs ‘n assorted holes in the ground. Temps are still very comfortable - unbelievably so, in fact. <yay> Petrol was $3.38 <rounded> at "Collusion Corner." Heard that a "spike" has occurred - so I'll have to check when I'm out later on . . . Situation with the Russians has the speculator AH JOs running in circles. What's new <groan>
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Eric departs this day for Sweden - will be gone ‘til September 7th . . . bon voyage, Sandman!
Page 10 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:14 PM <4:14 PM Friday NZ time>: Another fine <I3> Post from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection!
My guess is it was far more frustrating for you in the projection booth than for me on the mess deck of a ship at sea when it came to rethreading. I had a "captive" audience! <grin>
Must admit that brunettes are high on my list - however, having hair is 1st!
I don't believe we received any storms during my Dallas Rail Adventure, however, there were times when it looked as if we would. It was hot, hot, hot down there on that August day - hitting the century mark <F>. <ugh> <phew> Didn't like that aspect of it . . .
While I refer to the trains in those display cases as "retired," there are a few that are in ‘em simply because there's no room on the layout! The Can-Am Railway is chock-blocked when it comes to siding space. <grin> I don't leave anything on the main lines - so everything must have a "place" in a siding in order to "qualify" for running on the layout. Just a quirk of mine . . . We must have our "rules," eh
Many thanx for your visist, <I3> Post ‘n of course the ROUND of Tui!
Page 10 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:15 PM ‘n 9:32 PM: Back with a two-fer from our Manager - making for another active day at our Saloon by the Siding!
What a fine display of F units in your Pix-Parade! Like ‘em all, but of course that VIA Rail shot is mighty fine as is the Algoma Central - tied for BEST in SHOW!
Appreciate the info on the barn construction ‘n plans. Really is quite an operation to have lasted so long ‘n done so well! CHEERS to all who make Halton County's showcase such a fine place to visit! <clink>
<phew> Pleased to know that we won't be suffering the loss of our Manager AND Bar Chandler at the same time. That surely would hurt . . .
Never saw a car quite like that sightseeing one in your 2nd spate of fotos! All very nice ‘n appreciated - especially when descriptions accompany them!
Always enjoy your offerings ‘n pleased that you've been able to help keep things going ‘round here!
Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Ruth returns on Tuesday!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Our gas prices are still up there ($3.87) this morning, but about $3.80 one county over - go figger.
Allan - Glad you enjoyed the consist information. Green Mountain Flyer is truly a venerable name in New England railroading.
Rob - I have always liked traction-related work equipment. I remember the PCCs on the Harbourfront line very well. Also recall the Montreal car at Seashore waaaay back a long time ago. As for the double truck Niles car - a keeper! Dry rot and rust are my enemies as well (lol). Also thanks for the collection of F units.
Pete - Pittsburgh-Massena line was daylight for some of the trip depending on the season. I enjoyed your pictures, especially the one at Edinburgh.
OSP sent pichers and posters. CN through Canada is a nice piece of graphic work.
You asked a question about no diner on NYC 12 east of Buffalo. The answer (as always) is in the fine print. Train 12 departed Buffalo at 11:25 p.m. with a 7:30 a.m. arrival in New York. Buffet breakfast was available into New York as the Southwestern handled a 6 double bedroom buffet lounge sleeper between the end point cities.
Work safe
Morning Cindy , yoiu look well after your firstday behind the ole bar, fine choice of outfit ( Tom's such a luckey fella ) I think a number three off the breakfast board oh and the usual "vat" of spiked coffee ]tup] I'll leave a twenty for a round , keep the change
Tom-The weather has been nice around here lately as well.Only two days over 90 last sunday and monday and that spawned a hellish T-storm that cleared the air , we haven't seen any rain since. Not really complaining though as we've had a record breaker of a summer as far as rainfall goes.You can tell summers nearing it's end though as the CNE's on in toronto satrted last friday and will run to labour day.
Glad you liked the F unit's , I kind of figured that they would flick your bick. Hard to believe I caught that VIA train in Brantford , just random dumb luck as the corridor had gone mostly RDC by then ( both cars and trains ) I have to say that it was the only running F unit I've ever seen.The two CP shots were my uncles so they don't count.
Those sightseer's were a big hit in the summers in Montreal,they roamed the entire line for a qaurter you got a ride up and around Mount Royal with an onboard commentator.Nice that all four cars were saved and are all still operable including the one at Exporail not that it see's the light of day all that often.Seashore and Shoreline both have one's as well and they generally only come out on high days and holiday's.I can't at the moment recall where the fourth is,Branford in Con. possibly but I'll have to check my Montreal streetcars book to know for sure.
Shane-Ahh the reason for no dinner make sence now , at least the oassengers had the option of a good breakfast once they arrived at their destination.Yes dry rot is a consatnt enemy of old wooden streetcars. That Niles car was used as a chicken coup for twenty eyars before we got it and with the lack of barn space ( barn 3 was still in the design stage ) at the time we were given the car by the owner ( a take it now or we burn it sort of deal )it had to be tarped and stored outside so we lost it unfortunatly it and a Laconia built car from the HSR in Hamilton suffered the same fate.
I like the old work rquipment as well gives the public the working side of street railways when they visit the museum.
here's an interesting piece TTC's RT 6 used to clear the daylighted subway train storage yards of accumulated snow and ice.This is the heavier duty snow remover as opposed to the pushed infront kind I showed earlier,one of the coach yard shunters can be seen in the photo as well, These were used to tow non powered subway trains around the work shops and in the heyday of the Yonge street surface lines they were used to coupler the trailers onto the Witt trains.
Rail grinder W22 sister to the museum's W25. A single truck 1904 built car from the Toronto Railway Companies shops.As built these were semi-convertable cars like their bigger sisters ( the museum's 1326 ) the right side could be removed in the summer making them an open car.Our car is being restored back to full passenger car status. W22 is at Fort Edmonton in Alberta also awaiting restoration.
Here's one from the museum archieve, This shot is 1955 200' of track with no overhead yet , barn one hasn't been cleared out or built yet and you can see the museum's first two cars. Toronto Civic 55 and TRC 1326.This is the museum's first plot of land all 2 acres of it, they added to it as money and time permitted to what we have now over 40 aces and a fully integrated mainline with turning loops at both ends.
As we've seen for much of this week, Shane ‘n Rob have been consistent for morning daylite Posts! Breakfast on the house, Gents!
Specific comments later in my acknowledgements . . .
Now Arriving on Track # 1
Back in the Day - Number Twenty One
Railway Post Office
In the United States a railway post office, commonly abbreviated as RPO, was a railroad car that was normally operated in passenger service as a means to sort mail en route, in order to speed delivery. The RPO was staffed by highly trained Railway Mail Service postal clerks, and was off-limits to the passengers on the train.Many American railroads earned substantial revenues through contracts with the Post Office to carry mail aboard high-speed passenger trains. In fact, a number of companies maintained passenger routes where the financial losses from moving people were more than offset by transporting the mail.The world's first official carriage of mail by rail was by the United Kingdom's General Post Office in November 1830, using adapted railway carriages on the Liverpool and Manchester Railway. Sorting of mail en-route first occurred in the United Kingdom with the introduction of the Travelling Post Office in 1838 on the Grand Junction Railway. In the United States, some references suggest that the first shipment of mail carried on a train (sorted at the endpoints and merely carried in a bag on the train with other baggage) occurred in 1831 on the South Carolina Rail Road. Other sources state that the first official contract to regularly carry mail on a train was made with the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad in either 1834 or 1835. The United States Congress officially designated all railroads as official postal routes on July 7, 1838 Similar services were introduced on Canadian railroads in 1859 In the United States it was introduced on July 28, 1862 using converted baggage cars on the Hannibal and St. Joseph Railroad (which also delivered the first letter to the Pony Express). Purpose built RPO cars entered service on this line a few weeks after the service was initiated. Its purpose was to separate mail for connection with a westbound stage departing soon after the train's arrival at St. Joseph. This service lasted approximately one year The first permanent Railway Post Office route was established on August 28, 1864 between Chicago, Illinois, and Clinton, Iowa This service is distinguished from the 1862 operation because mail was sorted to and received from each post office along the route, as well as major post offices beyond the route's end-points.After 113 years of railway post office operation, the last surviving railway post office running on rails between New York and Washington, D.C. was discontinued on June 30, 1977. Ironically, the last route with a railway post office title was actually a boat run that lasted a year longer. This Boat Railway Post Office was the Lake Winnipesaukee RPO operating between The Weirs, New Hampshire, and Bear Island (New Hampshire), on Lake Winnipesaukee. The final date it operated with a postmark was September 30, 1978.
Many American railroads earned substantial revenues through contracts with the Post Office to carry mail aboard high-speed passenger trains. In fact, a number of companies maintained passenger routes where the financial losses from moving people were more than offset by transporting the mail.
The world's first official carriage of mail by rail was by the United Kingdom's General Post Office in November 1830, using adapted railway carriages on the Liverpool and Manchester Railway. Sorting of mail en-route first occurred in the United Kingdom with the introduction of the Travelling Post Office in 1838 on the Grand Junction Railway.
In the United States, some references suggest that the first shipment of mail carried on a train (sorted at the endpoints and merely carried in a bag on the train with other baggage) occurred in 1831 on the South Carolina Rail Road. Other sources state that the first official contract to regularly carry mail on a train was made with the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad in either 1834 or 1835. The United States Congress officially designated all railroads as official postal routes on July 7, 1838
Similar services were introduced on Canadian railroads in 1859 In the United States it was introduced on July 28, 1862 using converted baggage cars on the Hannibal and St. Joseph Railroad (which also delivered the first letter to the Pony Express). Purpose built RPO cars entered service on this line a few weeks after the service was initiated. Its purpose was to separate mail for connection with a westbound stage departing soon after the train's arrival at St. Joseph. This service lasted approximately one year The first permanent Railway Post Office route was established on August 28, 1864 between Chicago, Illinois, and Clinton, Iowa This service is distinguished from the 1862 operation because mail was sorted to and received from each post office along the route, as well as major post offices beyond the route's end-points.
After 113 years of railway post office operation, the last surviving railway post office running on rails between New York and Washington, D.C. was discontinued on June 30, 1977. Ironically, the last route with a railway post office title was actually a boat run that lasted a year longer. This Boat Railway Post Office was the Lake Winnipesaukee RPO operating between The Weirs, New Hampshire, and Bear Island (New Hampshire), on Lake Winnipesaukee. The final date it operated with a postmark was September 30, 1978.
<from: Wikipedia.com>
Note: Full article may be viewed at -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Post_Office
Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad #1923, a heavyweight RPO preserved at the Illinois Railway Museum. <Wikipedia.com>
An interior view of Great Northern Railway #42, a restored RPO on display at the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento. <Wikipedia.com>
Virginia and Truckee Railroad #13, a "shorty" RPO photographed at Reno, Nevada on August 3, 1935. <Wikipedia.com>
The interior of an RPO on display at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin. <Wikipedia.com>
A close-up view of the mail hook on CB&Q #1923. <Wikipedia.com>
A view of the mail hook on GN #42, along with a track-side mail crane complete with mail bag. <Wikipedia.com>
RPO postal cancellation <Wikipedia.com>
Hello Tom and all in
Round for the house - Holden's mild for me - afraid the dreaded work has kept me away last few days - and even now this is a brief one. Great RPO pics Tom - I've not looked through other recent posts but intned to get back to respond properly to the posts which picked up issues re my last trip report and other points of interest - I've scanned this and that and thanks very much to all.
Pete - wanted to give you the heads up on the fact that A1 Tornado (the new steam loco - yep guys new means new - we've just built a brand new steam express loco here in the UK) is on trials at the GCR - idea is it will be run in - then ready for passenger haulage at the Oct GCR steam gala - details on the GCR website - if this co-incided with your planned UK visit Pete I thought you might want to be aware in order to see if you could take it in. I relaise this is not always poss to plan - but thought you'd want to be aware (I expect you have already seen all this elsewhere but just in case not).
Holiday weekend here - if at all poss I'll get some time on the rails with luck.
All the best to all
DL
What Ho! A visit from Dan in Sherwood Forest on this end of the work week <for many>! Hope your holiday weekend is relaxing! . . .
MAYBE we can get Pete to visit "my other Thread" . . . been awhile!
More from my 2005 Dallas Rail Adventure . . .
Westbound to Centrepoint Station in cab of TRE RDC #2013
(38) Dave <Engineer> ‘n Dick in the cab of TRE RDC #2013
(41) Arriving - Centrepoint Station
More to follow next week!
A pint of Holden's please CINDY.
TOM Many thanks for the great posters from Northern Europe and Canada. The Irish one shows one of their early diesels. It must be a great trip on a train to ride 100 miles above the Artic Circle. I wonder if motorcars are still banned from the area like it says in the ad.
I remember traveling in the tramcar at Exporail.
Lets hope they are able to keep those Budd cars in service for a few years yet they must have been very well built cars to have lasted as long as they have. I guess it will be the availability of spare parts that may determine there future. I dare say if the trip was not so long that it involves an overnight journey DMUS may have been considered for the Chaluer.
I bet the ABBA girls still look good.
Yes the 9Fs were impressive locomotives. To think some of them only ran for 5 or 6 years on BR. What a waste.
Many thanks for the Back in the Day and link on the interesting Railway Post Office. It seems the first carrying of mails on the railways was almost at the same time on the railways in the U.K. and the U.S. It is good to see that some of the RPO cars have been preserved, it is a real shame that the railroads are not used today to move rail, although I believe in Britain some of the mail has returned to rail.
There are a few preserved lines in Britain that have the cars and the equipment to give a demonstration of picking up the mail bags on the move. I have been lucky to have been there when they were this at Didcot and on the Great Central.
ERIC Bon Voyage and have a great holiday.
ROB Are you saying RUTH as been frightening the daylight customers away.
Yes the black bag is not allowed in the same room as the scanner or the computer.
It is really good the barn 4 will be able to hold that amount of the museum's equipment waiting for restoration from the weather, not to mention those low-life's who get some form of perverted enjoyment from damaging historic items. I bet the freed up space in the restoration shed will be very welcome as well.
Many thanks for the great photos. It is great to see No.23 complete after her restoration. Your first car # 1326 looks in great condition, it great to see her driven by your first member, how old is Mr. Mills. Great photo of TTC car # 2132 running in the early 1950s, I love the colors on the slides taken from that era. Always enjoy seeing the work cars. I had a look to see if I had a photo of the Sightseeing Car at Exporail but no luck. I have slightly out of focus one taken there.
That is great livery on the Wisconsin Central F units
ALLAN I went on some more tours in the Newcastle area I will have a look through my notes. One trip was a special on the Tyne and Wear Metro not long after it opened, on a special that visited all the system including sidings and a line not usually used by public trains. Another line I will have to visit again as it has been extended to Sunderland now.
I don't know if I will be able to get to Beamish this trip we hope to be staying in York a couple of days with a day trip to Edinburgh so will be passing through Newcastle on the train, perhaps I can escape.
Glad you enjoyed the photos, I still think of that sound recording of the 9Fs on the Tyne Dock to Consett iron ore trains.
CM3 Thanks for the information on it being daylight on most of the Pittsburgh -Massena on NYC train 78.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. Edinburgh Waverley has just recently had more platforms added, all being well I should be in the station in October.
DL Many thanks for the heads up on the visit of Tornado to the Great Central. I had heard it was to go there but did not know when or about the Gala. I had a look at the web site and saw is was to be in conjunction with Steam Railway. Perhaps I have a chance of going to it on the Saturday, the others are flying in that day but want to have look around London for a bit before meeting up in Rugby so perhaps I can get to the GC.
Hope you are able to get on the rails this Bank Holiday weekend
Having a bit of the problem loading some photos in my album so I will post this and try again.
A round please CINDY and the Steak and Fries later.
Another Holden's please CINDY now I have got my album to behave.
TOM Many thanks for the latest photos from the cab of RDC #2013 on the TRE in Dallas. The stations and ROW look in great condition and it is good to see a photo of Dick.
A couple of photos of Industrial locomotives.
On the Lakeside & Havernwaite Railway in the English Lake District.
At Bolton Abbey on the Yorkshire Dales Railway 'Annie' runs round her vintage train.
Not sure where these next two photos were taken, I feel it could be on the Gwili Railway perhaps NICK could tell me.
The loco is a ex War Department Austerity 0-6-0 Saddle Tank.
Good evening gents.Leon just small splash of CR if you don't mind( for medicinal purposes )[:-]
Tom-Loved seeing the RPO article again seems to me it was first posted during an RPO theme tuseday from back in the day . Another set of fine photo's from Dallas as well . I see that there is another fine looking Brunette on the plateform in the one shot as well.
Thanks for the free breakfast I'll try to take advantage of it tomorrow.
Dan-Good to see you if only briefly . So is this steamer that is new built built as a replica of an older class or is it a complete brand new off the drawing board kind of thing
Pete-Some fine photo's from Exporail. I see the tail end of a Montreal PCC and one of their two man home built cars I would guess that their sightseer is tucked in behind the other exhibits. the one they have is one of the two that had an ugly bus windshield installed on the front platform, not terribly attractive.
We are definatly looking forward to having the restoration barn back,we've put quite a few things on the back burner for lack of space to work, and yes all the little two legged rodents that like painting things, will now be kept at bay.John is I think 70 now but he's busy as ever we still see him fairly often actually three of the six original members all in the thier early to mid 70's are active , we've lost two of the original six but then they were both a good ten years older than the rest.John's actually just finished another book his second on the Niagara St Catharines and Toronto RR it's a wonderfull book I went to it's launch party in St Catharines about two months ago,it's publisshed by Railfare books out of Montreal and is worth the buy
Pete. You would have gone through Wallsend on your Tyneside Metro trip, it follows the old North Tyneside electric train track formation, except for a couple of new bridges`, and the new stations of course. If you do have a stop at Newcastle on the way up to Edinburgh have a Newcastle "Broon" for me too. Looks as if you have a fairly tight schedule to keep to while you`re over there, hope you manage to fit everything in that you planned. A nice set of industrial loco pix, nice to see they are running that line in the Lake District.
Rob. See we were only a minute apart with our post`s yesterday, boy, was that really close! Those were another fine selection of colourful diesel and trolley pix from you once again, you can be proud of all the hard work you`ve done at the trolley museum that`s for sure.
Dan. Good to see you on board again. Thanks for the latest heads up on the new A1 "Tornado" Fergie put up a link to a YouTube video of her first public live steam run, she looks a real beauty, even in matt grey.
CM3. Would love to see those New England fall tree colours, our neighbour who hails from Queens NYC, say`s they look so spectacular, she has some fine looking panoramic pix she took a couple of years` ago.
Tom. The noise during a breakdown during the Saturday morning matinee was always the loudest, especially if it happened when a Western was being shown. A fine informative post in BITD #21 on the Railway Post Office services` with the great pix and the RPO cancellation stamp, and another fine set of cab shots` from your TRE Dallas RDC adventure to savour.
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Leon, how about an early breakfast, just coffee and a cheese danish, please.
I am sitting here at Stockholm Airport, Arlanda, waiting for the connecting flight up to (almost) the Arctic Circle where mys sister lives. After 11 hours of flying economy class I can't say I am looking forward to another 75 minutes in the air. But I'll most likely will survive.
I had a very quick look at what has been posted Friday but I don't have time now to make my comments. I saw some photos of old RPO's so I'll show one myself. I have shwon it before, but it is an old nice looking car so I'll post it again.
It's an old Burlington RPO. Atchison, KS. 2007.
Round for the house!
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