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The Canadian
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Canadian Pacific Railways The Canadian
The Canadian is a Canadian transcontinental passenger train originally operated by the Canadian Pacific Railway. It is currently operated by VIA Rail Canada (as the Canadian) with service between Union Station in Toronto, Ontario and Pacific Central Station in Vancouver, British Columbia. Before the current transcontinental service, the name "The Canadian" had been used on CPR's overnight Montreal / Chicago trains.
Old (red) and new (blue) route maps of The Canadian
In the years following World War II, passenger trains on the CPR consisted of a mixture of prewar heavyweight and pre- and post-war lightweight cars, even on their flagship transcontinental The Dominion and its eastern extension, The Atlantic Limited. While these cars were serviceable, American trains of the early 1950s, such as the California Zephyr, had already adopted streamlined all-stainless steel consists featuring domed observation cars.
Following an evaluation in 1949 of the dome cars featured on the General Motors / Pullman Standard demonstrator Train of Tomorrow, CPR management, including then Vice-president Norris Crump resolved to upgrade their rolling stock. In 1953 CPR placed an order for 155 stainless steel cars with the Budd Company of Philadelphia that included 18 rear-end dome cars (Park series), 18 Skyline mid-train dome cars, 30 coaches, 18 dining cars and 71 sleeping cars (Manor and Chateau series). A subsequent order for 18 baggage-crew dormitory cars brought the final to total to 173 cars, sufficient for establishing an entirely new transcontinental service and partially re-equipping The Dominion.
The interior design of these new cars was contracted to the Philadelphia architectural firm Harbeson, Hough, Livingston & Larson (a company known for its industrial designs on other prominent passenger trains such as the Pioneer Zephyr), and the resulting furnishings and pastel-shaded colour schemes were widely acclaimed. After deciding to name the Park series dome cars after famous Canadian parks, leading Canadian artists, including members of the Group of Seven, were commissioned to paint suitable murals for these cars. When the decision was made to add budget sleeping cars, the Budd order was supplemented by 22 existing heavyweight sleepers that CPR refurbished in its own Angus Shops, each fitted out with Budd-style stainless steel cladding. To complement the new rolling stock, the CPR ordered General Motors Diesel FP9 locomotives to supplement an existing fleet of FP7s. Although these F-units remained the preferred power for the train, it was occasionally pulled by a variety of motive power, including Montreal Locomotive Works FPA-2s, and, as late as 1959, Steam locomotives.
VIA Rail Budd dining car <Wikimedia Commons/Wikipedia.com>
CPR christened their new flagship train The Canadian and service began on April 24, 1955. Although CPR competitor Canadian National Railways began its own new transcontinental service, the Super Continental, on the same day, CPR was able to boast honestly that The Canadian was "The first and only all-stainless steel 'dome' stream-liner in Canada" - it was not until 1964 that the CNR acquired dome cars. CPR operated the train in two sections east of Sudbury, Ontario. The section operating between Montreal and Vancouver (also serving Ottawa) was known as train 1 westbound and train 2 eastbound, with a connecting section to or from Toronto splitting or joining at Sudbury (this section was known as train 11 westbound, and train 12 eastbound). Matching its streamlined appearance, The Canadian's 71 hour westbound schedule was 16 hours faster than that of The Dominion.
Although initially successful, passenger train ridership began to decline in Canada during the 1960s. Facing competition from airlines and increased automobile usage following construction of the Trans-Canada Highway, the CPR cancelled The Dominion in 1966, and petitioned the government to discontinue The Canadian in 1970. Although this petition was denied, CPR during the 1970s attempted to remove itself from the passenger service market. The Canadian was operated at reduced levels, with the government subsidizing 80 percent of its losses.
VIA Rail
The federal Crown corporation VIA Rail Canada formally assumed responsibility for CPR's passenger services on October 29, 1978, although the VIA identity wasn't assumed by the trains themselves until the following summer. Following the takeover by VIA, the Canadian became the company's premier transcontinental train, and initially operated over its old CPR route. It was supplemented by the former CN Super Continental, which operated over the parallel, but more northerly, CN route. The Canadian continued to be operated in two sections east of Sudbury and provided daily service west to Vancouver and east to Toronto and Montreal.
The Canadian picking up a canoeist in central Ontario <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
In the aftermath of the deep budget cuts made to VIA Rail on January 15, 1990, the Super Continental service was abolished and the Canadian was moved from the CPR route to the Super Continental's CN route. This maintained transcontinental service and allowed VIA to operate its government-mandated service to small communities along the line. The CN route is widely acknowledged to be less scenic, particularly in the sections through the Rocky Mountains and north of Lake Superior. Service was also reduced to 3 days per week. Today, VIA Rail continues to operate the Canadian using the CN route with rebuilt ex-CPR Budd passenger equipment.
While some rail travel and heritage purists no longer consider this to be the true Canadian, VIA retains the name, train numbers, and equipment of the original.
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Morning Ruth my dear,just a large thermos and what the heck for soemthing different just a abg of fresh donuts from the mosheen powdered suger please. What can I say dad was a cop so the apple does not fall far from the tree.
Tom-Ahh a good morning twofer of sirts Nice to read about The Canadain again. We still hope to do at least a partial next year ( time and circumstance permitting ) along with mom and pop for their 50th.
Glad to hear that the Gods of VIA were still empolyed and able to help out,looks like I have my return trip squared away
Eric-More CanAm shots I look forward to them.I haven't a clue with the quizz both my guesses have been tried and shot down I shall await the the verdict as they say.
I'm guessing that the downtown lines that are going under are electrified would make sence seeing as the "greeness" of the Swedish Govt.It always mystifies the wish to put the trains underground, always more expensive and it tends to always go over budget, as they always seem to run into some unknown ground water issue or some other difficulty.I know that Toronto wants to continue to build subway lines even though teh cost for the tunnels are 12B CDN and climbing as opposed to the 2B tag for a dedicated surface line system I just know which option will be picked
Neat cabooses , which museum
CM3-Nice to see you pop in I'm guessing that most of the truck drivers that are hanging up in thh residential are"new" drivers either as in newly arrived or newly licenced. They tend to put those no truck signs up for a reasonI had one do a 40 pount turn inf ront of my house a couple weeks ago. I live three houses from a dead end that ends in the embankment for the old Brantford / Mohawk barge canal,been a dead end for over a hundred years ! I guess his "headgear" made him miss the dead end sign At least he made it out without doing any damage. He could see the factory he wanted to go to ( on the other side of the canal) guess for some reason he thought the residential street would have been a quicker route for him
Back in a bit folks.
Rob
All Rendezvous III respones received - many thanx!
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Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with Classic Trains. Check this poster out regarding the Canadian Pacific from the 1950's:
Canadian Pacific ... by land ... across Canada
Now see Canadian Pacific's spectacular Banff-Lake Louise Route - From the Scenic Domes of the "The Canadian" Mile-high in the Canadian Rockies, Banff Springs is famous the world over for its scenic surroundings, complete outdoor recreation facilities. Both Banff and nearby Lake Louise are on the route of "The Canadian." Treat yourself to the world's longest, most spectacular Scenic Dome ride as "The Canadian" winds through the Canadian Rockies on its transcontinental route. From high in the Scenic Domes of Canada's only stainless-steel Scenic Dome streamliner you'll thrill to the breath-taking view of Canada's unspoiled natural beauty. And aboard "The Canadian" you'll find the accommodations superb, the service unexcelled. You may travel tourist or first class - coach seats reserved at no extra fare. See your travel agent for information about "The Canadian" - in daily service throughout the year between Montreal or Toronto, and Vancouver.
Canadian Pacific
World's Greatest Travel System
RAILWAYS - STEAMSHIPS - AIRLINES - HOTELS - COMMUNICATIONS - EXPRESS
Flag of Canada 1921-1957
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Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Going to have some lovely weather here today with temps pushing into the 80s for the first time since last summer
Rob was here with comments and observations.
Nick - I can top your joke but we'd get "bombed off the air." Eats, Shoots and Leaves resides in one of the bookcases in my office. It's a good one.
Now I have an idea about railcars that you showed in your pictures.
Is that a PGE boxcar in front of the B&O cars?
20-point turns? We have them in front of the house every so often. About a year ago we had a monstrous 18-wheeler go over the side into my neighbor's front yard. It almost wound up in their living room. They had to get one of those big wreckers) like they use on the Interstate around here to drag trucks out of ravines when they decide to go off on their own) to pull it up and get it back on the pavement. It took three pulls - each pull is a four-figure dollar amount - to accomplish the needful, and then he got the tractor stuck which took another two pull to get it unmired. The local gendarmes arrived, of course, and the driver was blaming everyone but himself. The more he complained the more the cop wrote. I know most of the people on the local force and he told me as he was sitting on our back porch to finish his report, "I hate trucks, I hate trucks, I hate trucks." We won't even get into how long it took to get the damage repaired. As mom said, "For once it wasn't our wall."
The real fun is when a Greyhound gets down in there - they can usually maneuver themselves out, but it can get interesting. I thought only Enterprise picked you up.
Then about two weeks ago we had another 18 wheeler up the other end of the block. He stopped b4 he got wedged in but the local police had to come and direct traffic as he backed out onto the main road where he blocked four lanes of traffic at what passes for rush hour around here - all this happened while I was taking my youngest to school. The K9 Korps rides every a.m. with us, and he was looking at me like, "Why can't I get out? I want to play with the big trucks, too!"
Pete - appreciated the background information on pictures.
Eric - Sounds as though Srockholm is starting their own versiion of Boston's "Big Dig." To twist an old saying, "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is."
OSP - E-mails received - thanks for keeping me informed. Good luck on your trip. CanAm pictures and report from the engineering dept. was useful. I understand what you mean about passenger cars. Some of mine are ballasted with strips of chimney flashing. I know, Boris, that's so old school, but it works.
Also, nice picture of MILW 4-4-2 all dressed up for the Hiawatha.
Work safe
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On this date in 1955, the Canadian Pacific Railway inaugurated their cross-Canada train called "The Canadian." While that particular train has faded into history, VIA Rail runs its version called the "Canadian" over trackage owned by Canadian National Railway. Time permitting, I will run a feature or two on that most famous of Canadian passenger trains.
Here we are at the day before Friday - seems like a week of Mondays to Moi! Anyway, all's ready, so fill up the coffee mugs - grab a pastry or two ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast!
Cardinals squandered a 4 run lead against the Bucs of Pittsburgh . . . now they <Birds> are beginning to look more 'n more like last year's team. <ugh>
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Page 16 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:25 PM <2:25 AM Thursday GMT>: Back with a fine spate of Pike Perspective's Photos! Can count on Mighty Man to come thru for our OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
Maple Leaf tavern looks like my kinda place! Wonder if they are "into" darts Hmmmmmm. Anyway, wondering what the roadname is for that silver/blue box car Nice stuff, Mate - lots to gander at.
An Amish drive by! <grin> Cudda been the Wolfman ‘n party "aboard" Clyde's carriage - for I seem to remember a "sound" from Clyde - maybe it was more like <clip-clop-clip-clop> <woosh!> <clip-clop-clip-clop>. Good one, Mate!
Meant to thank you for the elaboration on that Double-Fairlie . . .
I recall reading about the development of self-powered rail cars <today's RDCs, DMUs, etc.> and many had their origins from motor buses converted to rail use. Just ugly suckers! <grin>
Good news on the Calsberg - just don't wanna run out . . .
I'm the "anthropologist" in the family - MissiMo is biology, phys-ed ‘n assorted other disciplines. Multi-degreed, dontchano! <grin> Bering Land Bridge, in my OH-PIN-YUN has been well corroborated - "they" had to get here from ‘somewhere' way back when the Earth experienced those catastrophic changes when the reference we use was Pangea. But that's for ‘nother time. <grin>
Have another on Moi - anyone sans fingerprints is one who I need to keep on my GOOD side! <uh oh>
Thanx for the visit, ROUND, fotos ‘n good CHEER!
Page 16 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:13 PM: Twice in the same 24-hour period! <grin> Things are looking UP!
Got the "issue" resolved with VIA Rail . . . one of the "shirts" gave me a call in response to my FAXd letter - everything's a "go" for my Gaspe trip. I'm fortunate that I kept the name of the "bossman" who helped out last year, otherwise I'd still be in the que! <phew> Restored my faith in humankind - at least there's ONE fellow who seems to give a Rat's Patoot about customer service!
I would NOT recommend that track for a large layout. There is a benefit to having the roadbed attached - adds studiness. But it's surely cheap looking - needed to ballast it over.
While I'm not having any difficulties, I should have gone with KATOs version. Also, BACHMANN didn't make any 36" sections or flextrack with attached roadbed back then <don't know if they've come up with ‘em since>, so I had to go with their individual 9" sections. The more connections, the more the chance of electrical problems. However, when I put those sections together they were crimped and then glued down. Can't imagine anything causing them to loosen up . . .
I'm always considering changes - but just heard that the U.S. life expectancy for males is 74 . . . so, the H with it!
Glad you made it back!
Page 17 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:56 PM: Still making it "in" before the bewitching hour I note! Noted that you turned the Page to 17! Nope - no prize, but still noted!
Problems with the laptop had nothing to do with it being Windows based or an Apple. Had everything to do with wireless problems and the inability of the OUTSOURCED IDIOTS to figure out what the problem was. Anyway, debating the merits of Windows vs Apple is like the old American Flyer - Lionel arguments that were as circular as a tennis ball! I solved the ‘puter issue by purchasing new stuff, irrespective of the condition of the old. Just couldn't <and wouldn't> put up with the nonsense taking up HOURS of my time.
Sorry, but I've yet to do any research on your "quiz" question - just been far behind the curve lately . . . <groan>
Your fotos of Rendezvous II were terrific ‘n I can't imagine what you may have missed regarding the Can-Am layout. Then again - there is lots to view, eh
Caboose is in sorry state - but still good to see. Lotsa other stuff in your shot as well. Where
Many thanx for the visit ‘n chat 'n ROUND!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Tom
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, a number 2 would be just fine! Add to that a cold Keith's! Oh, a round for the house! Keep the change!
My Monday this week is gone, tomorrow is my Friday. And there are only 22 days until Our 3rd Annual Rendezvous!!!
Tom – Railroad books are expensive. Hard to find any good ones for less than $35. Computer problems are never fun. That’s one of the advantages with Macintosh. Very few problems compared with Windows-based computers. Wolfman has only one speed? I have to remember that. I’ll give you one more day to think about my quiz question. Very nice photos of the Can-Am Railway! I have to take more pictures next month! I am really looking forward to see the layout again and find details I haven’t seen before.
Emails received and responded to.Mike – Thanks for most interesting photos of Hell Gate Bridge! I’ve been crossing it quite a few times by train but it is hard to really understand the size of it when you are on top of it. What year was that map printed, do you know? CM3 – I’ll remember your words of wisdom. No laxative and sleeping pills at the same time. Makes sense to me. Building bridges because of passenger traffic is one thing. Now the City of Stockholm has decided to build a tunnel under the downtown area for commuter trains with two underground stations. It is going to cost some billion of dollars. With the new tunnel they will separate commuter trains and regional-, long distance trains. Rob – Vacation? Are you going to have vacation? Lucky you! Nick – What is holding you back? The Rendezvous starts May 15! Meatloaf and Mashed Potatoes? Would make me lose weight? Hmmm, except for losing some weight after my heart surgery and my gall bladder surgery I haven’t lost any weight the last two years and I am having meatloaf every Tuesday!Thanks for the info on the Irish narrow gauge! I just recalled that Stockholm still has a narrow gauge (891 mm) railway system in operation. It’s all passenger service and they are going to keep it. Buying new cars etc. No, the monorail connection to Sweden has nothing to do with colors or flags. The answer tomorrow.I like the details of your layout! If Big Gerry needs help with his rig, let me know. I’ll be happy to help him getting out of there. Pete – Wikipedia does not have any good pictures of the Årsta Bridges. They look much nicer at some distance. Thanks for the info on Ffestiniog Railway! Always interesting to learn the history of railroads. Do you know when Great WesternRailway converted that line to standard gauge? No, as far as I know ASEA has nothing to do with the Disneyland Monorail. Correct answer tomorrow.
Eric
Good evening Leon , and you thought you could close up early <grin> just a guiness and a round for the house if you don't mind. I see that Boris is back in from switching in the yard. He does like manhandling the beer reefers truly the last of his bread ( organic switcher )and he's enviromentally friendly( only for those upwind ) as he runs of jars of PPF,not exactly a green goat but he's close.
Pete-Lots o tidbits of brit rail to digest thanks for sharing.I will hold you to your claim to come back north again. Tom tells me he almost had you roped in. You would love the arms lots of good old comfort food,and more importantly brew
Tom-Glad to hear that your computational problems are squared away hopefully without any more calls to the far east help desk <grin> It's nice to be missed
Nice to see the shots of the Canam from the higher altitudes,the subway construction looks interesting.I should have thought of using the same type of trackage as you did,instead I still fight with the traditonal.
Nick-Ah yes bless u-tube. I wonder if that vid was pulled due to the police investigation as I couldn't find it today.I wanted to put the link up for all of hyou to enjoy. If you happen upon it perhaps you can jot down the link info for us.
Interesting shots of the ole layout as well,your scenery technique isn't too far removed from waht the actual terrain around Bradford looks like. I think it looks much cleaner than the real Bradford which is definatly the wrong side of the tracks.
I won't coment further on the joke however other than to say arrrgggh,I just heard the old groanameter break.
Right then chaps-back for the proper job now-Leon-better get yer skates on lad-theres beer to be served here and more besides-I will join the lord & master in a large rum please-and I`d best be having a bowl of fries ( with chilli sauce ) to soak it up-and foaming tankards of ale for the crew if you will...........
Right ...First off--what goes "clip clop clip clop clip clop BANG clip clop clip clop" ?
An Amish drive-by shooting...................
Glad thats out of my system......
To business:-
TOM-Ireland is a country that has always swum against the tide-The railcars,although no beauty queens ,meant that a land almost without coal,could still provide passenger transport in competition to road bus services-and indeed the railcars were in large part just rail buses-have more pix of them,including a couple of the cab units detached from the saloons for servicing.........As to cement & guitars-I try to ensure that I am not playing within a day or two of handling what is essentially a very corrosive substance-as of now I could burgle any house in the village-I have no discernable fingerprints left.....As to banjo playing-a tough gig-those strings are MUCH harder on the fingers than any guitar....The Carlsberg car has been retro-fitted with KD`s ready to be included in a standard consist-unlike the home brew car which has 3 wheels and is hauled by Boris and a couple of goats.......The land bridge theory is in fact the best (who am I to argue with MISSISTOM-the house authority... )..thanks for the drink
ERIC-Meatloaf & Mash ?-no wonder you are losing weight..-have you ever considered vegetables (other than as elected representatives........) Sadly, the Irish narrow gauge died the death in the early `60`s-although a short stretch of the T&D has been re-laid and is running the last of the original engines (#5t )
The reason the C&L looked so busy is it was one of the last to go and ended up with a whole mix of engines-not all of which were servicable at any given time-also,it served the only coal mine in the country-most of the locos dated from the 1890`s and were well worn by the time of the pix...........As to the quiz-I am going for the screamingly obvious-the train is blue & yellow-same as the Swedish flag..........
MIKE-Nice to see you mate -a fine spread of pix-the map was especially helpful-Am sure there is a rail bridge in Britain with the same design-gonna bother me for days......R.E talkative-a wiser man than me once told me "He who listens,learns.."
CM3-See above R.E railcars....The whole point of sending Boris & Tex to play with the timesaver was to get them out of the way,although I agree- a well thought out switching layout can fill many a happy hour -both in terms of detailing and operation
Misplaced modifiers-I can do no better than to refer you to the recently popular volume "Eats,shoots & leaves"................
ROB-The force is indeed with us-must check out that u-tube-makes one feel better about the world somehow........
PETE-the County Donegal vans were mixed purpose-mostly guards but had a passenger compartment as well-wern`t needed for braking `cos all stock vacuum fitted-I suspect Castlegregory was only ever a junction for the long abandoned branch-possibly a crossing point..??
Festiniog & Blaenau-was originally a 2` line-when the G.W took it over and rebuilt to std gauge they provided 2 ton slate wagons which they moved on transporter wagons-pix to follow....
RIGHT THEN--Leon,another round please (course I can afford it-I`m a legend in my own imagination..)
So-to P/P day pix-spot the contrast with the guvnors fine work.....
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Looks like the Maple Leaf Tavern car park is full so the Llangwm low riders are parking up in the staff yard
Fat Lou & Donny are in for happy hour as the Evening Bradford Go train eases into the platform
Big Gerry curses his sat-nav after making a twenty point turn down in the industrial district
The interchange yard is close to a jackpot-the crews are gonna have to work hard to get this lot switched in time for the Gravenhurst & North Bay departures...
Just waiting for the Geep-a mixed bag of cars ready for classifying up at the top yard
O.K Boy-gently does it now.............................
Well then-thats me done-Leon,I`ll take a bottle for the walk home-and give these good people a drink for staying with me-Should be about for fish tomorrow-if not my apologies & will see you all soon
Take care now
MS&P Atlantic Class A #2 4-4-2 (1935) (fair use)
Time again for a "get a leg up" round of acknowledgments . . . never know what the 'morrow may bring. Thus far this has been a week of Mondays! <yikes>
Page 16 - Mike <wanswheel> at 6:56 AM: Our infrequent irregular, Silent Mike, "in" with a "silent" spate of six . . . ROUND appreciated!
Page 16 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:10 AM: Email exchange continues - thanx for the quick response to Rendezvous planning . . . duly noted ‘n appreciated!
Editor, I don't need no <bleeping> editor! <uh oh> Always brings a chagrined grin when I see the gross mistakes on the tube's news or in the local gazette . . . Yeah, I know - it ain't a perfect world.
I may have Joe's book somewhere in my stack o' previous life's stuff . . . I KNOW I've read it. But as with you, it's been quite awhile . . . Yogi, an intriguing moniker but even moreso a great guy!
Many thanx for the visit, quarters, round ‘n good CHEER!
Page 16 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:17 AM: Back from the rigors of too much work <as in paid employment> ‘n power failure(s) . . . And the beat goes on!
Flurry of fone calls squared away what needed to be done to redesign our plans for early May. We now have a Canadian Rail Adventure! <in two parts> For anyone wondering what's going on, too bad . . . <grin>
ExpoRail will not have all of their exhibits available to us so early in the month <thanx to Pete's suggestion, I called them . . . > Had I known all of this at the onset, could've saved me a lot of exasperation, money ‘n more exasperation. They never said a word about the limited access when I first contacted them. But that's ‘nother story . . .
Anyway, Rob ‘n I are going by train from Brantford to Montreal <about 6 hours on the train> - then he returns home whilst I await the boarding of the Chaleur <VIA Rail's all Budd consist WITH a Skyline Dome!> for a round trip to Gaspe. <Yeah, trying it again!> A couple of night's aboard the train - dinner in the diner - sitting in the dome - just doesn't get any better than that, for Moi!
Anyway, will be good to see the trolleyMAN again - get a chance to revisit the St. George Arms pub ‘n of course ride the rails with someone who appreciates that sort of thing.
Thanx for coming back - after all, YOU are the Manager! And we know at least ONE person misses YOU! <grin>
ROUND appreciated!
Page 16 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 5:43 PM <11:43 PM GMT>: Nice words, but more importantly I'm happy that you found the foto spread of interest ‘n helpful with your inquisitive mind!
I made a minor glitch with my inventory of turnouts - been corrected. Had more #6s than originally listed on my "master list." Anyway, you're correct - stepladders are great for "aerial" shots . Cudda done better with a couple of ‘em - still learning that digital "thing" of mine. <grrrrrrr>
Goes without saying that the welcome mat is always out for you ‘n yours should you somehow find yourselves in mid-continent USA. Methinks the railroading would take second fiddle to the beer drinking, not to mention the variety of CDs we'd have to listen to, etc. etc. Then there's those TWO jugs of Navy Rum that Pete brought back from England for me . . . haven't cracked ‘em yet, just waiting for the "right" moment. Interested???
Day began pretty much in the same mode as yesterday's end . . . but wound up with things pretty much restored to normal. Amazing what FAXs - Emails ‘n fone calls can do to get things straightened out that never should've been screwed up to start with. Long story, not worth boring anyone more than I have . . .
Many thanx for the continuing support for this sometimes lonely place of OURS!
Couldn't possibly <tweet> you for that fine offering, now could I <grin>
Page 16 - Pete <pwolfe> at 6:03 PM: Doesn't appear to me that your Post was created using the TWO FINGER method! Why not Remember YOU ARE BEING WATCHED! <uh oh> <tap> <tap> <tapity tap - maybe!> Molly Throttlebottom says she has a "technique" that she's "sure" will get you "going" - don't quite know what that means. Hmmmmmmm. <uh oh>
Better late than never ‘n surely glad our Bar Chandler made it "in." Now that Nick's around, can't stock enough of his favorite adult beverages . . .
Laptop issues had me losing more of my feeble mind than I care to admit . . . all's right now. Amazing what ‘throwing money around' can do! <aaaarrrrggggghhhhh> Just didn't want to spend any more time on the fone with those OUTSOURCED IDIOTS than I already had. Just can't handle it . . .
Glad you enjoyed the Can-Am shots from today . . . thanx for mentioning ‘em!
Another Rendezvous Email awaits your response . . .
ROUND ‘n < I3 > Post very much appreciated!
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams, on this rather hot Mid-Missouri day, please RUTH.
NICK Many thanks for the really great photos from the days of the Irish narrow gauge. It is wonderful how the railway seems to fit in so well with the County Donegal scenery, great old coaches behind Blanche like something out of the Titfield Thunderbolt. I wonder if the coach at the end of the freight leaving Strabane was just for the guard or it carried passengers.
On the West Claire that looks a continental coach behind # F503.
Great shed photos at Ballinamore shed on the Cavan & Leitrim. You can just imagine the loco crews, after putting the engines to bed for the night, heading for Guinness or two in a little bar which, no doubt, is in the street behind the shed. In the same series of paperback books as Red for Danger, that Pan published in the early 1970s, was a couple of books I had on the Irish narrow gauge, unfortunately I no longer have them.
The Tralee & Dingle ran through some remote countryside, as in the last photo. I would not have thought that Castlegregory saw many passengers.
The Darth Vader item really does prove that ‘Truth is stranger than fiction' but it does prove the police FORCE was with the Jedies.
I would never have guessed that Dog's part 2 was the ‘B' side to Pinball Wizard but I seem to recall it being played a lot on the jukebox of the Star pub in town, now sadly under a road improvement scheme. Cheapest jukebox in town but it could be a bit rowdy, as the flowerpot complete with flower flying out of a (closed) window, as I walked past one night illustrates. I must have had Call me Lightening at one time, as soon as I saw the title the tune came back "Call me lightening DUM DUM DUM DO RAY". Thanks for the info
The other names of the P2s, apart from the three you mentioned, are Lord President, Mons Meg and (my favorite) Wolf of Badenock. Five of the names, Mons Meg being the one left out, were given to the BR class 87 electric locomotives when BR relaxed its naming ban in the late 1970s.
Oh yes the revenge of the barman.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos; I shall look forward to the Rhyl photos. I agree the Maunsell locos were pleasing on the eye I think they are locomotives whose appearance is enhanced by the addition of those smoke deflectors.
I am sure you are right about Penryndeudreath being the location of the double Fairlie photo, I seem to recall walking up the hill to catch the train, but the reason I was in the village is lost in the mists of time, I'm afraid.
ERIC Many thanks for the link to the Arsta bridges. I see the new was not without its critics, nicknaming it the "sausage from Fulen" due to its red color.
Glad you liked the photos; I too liked the appearance of the small Danish tank locomotive.
The Ffestiniog Railway was built to link the slate quarries at Blaenau Ffestinog to the harbour at Porthmadog. In the early days the slates trains ran to the harbour under gravity with brakemen and were hauled back by horses. I think the horse traveled in special wagons on the downhill run.
The London & North Western Railway reached Blaenau with a standard gauge branch line from Llandudno Junction on the North Wales coast line. Perhaps Nick can help but I seem to recall reading the narrow gauge Ffestiniog Railway carried on from Blaenau through to the village of Ffestiniog. This part of the line was converted to standard gauge by the Great Western Railway, which reached Blaenau with a branch from Bala Junction. This line was closed in the 1960s but a part of the line was kept at the Blaenau end to serve a nuclear power station at Trawsfyndd, but this has been de-commissioned now. Luckily I was able to go on a railfan trip on the line before it closed. The Llandudno Junction to Blaenau line is still open and as even seen steam specials on the steeply graded single-track line.
In the quiz did ASEA build the equipment for the monorail.
MIKE Thanks for the photos.
CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos. I seem to recall reading somewhere that some Double Fairlie locomotives were used on some South American railways.
ROB It always seems that puter problems and power outages always come when your are near the end of preparing a post or something, at least that when I seem to get the problems.One day I really hope to make it back to Canada and ride the great railways there.
Thanks for the kind words.
TOM Really hope you are having a far better day today than yesterday and the puter is working fine. I hope it was not the one I was on Saturday.
Thanks for the kind words. Yes the beer was going down extremely well Saturday
I see Nick has answered the Double Fairlie question.
Real glad you could make it in for the Select Scenes from the Can-Am, all taken today I see. Looking at the amount of track that was required gives a good illustration of the amount of work on just the track alone on the Can-Am.
I do have two speeds, Slow and Stop.
I see Nick as called in this evening.
Well LEON a round please as I am running late, having a bit of a problem with the ‘shift' key.Now it looks like a storm rolling in so I had better post this
Pete.
O.K-Before I get onto any of the rest of tonights offering --TOM-What a magnificent response my friend -Not only have you touched on (and comprehensively dealt with ) all my queries,despite having the sort of day that one might wish upon an enemy,but have done so at some inconvienience to yourself I suspect-a lot of those pix look like stepladder jobs,judging from the elevation and a fine job of work they reveal too..
Whilst you remain engagingly modest about your creation,I give it as my opinion that the Can-Am Lines is,in conception & execution,as fine an example of a `table` (as opposed to wall hugger) layout as one might wish to see-The provision of the brooding bulk of the Mentor mountain range makes a perfect scene divider,as well as the right of way for the high line,the route is long enough to give a sense of genuine `space `between the different scenes,the 4 seasons aspect works to a nicety-I can offer no higher praise than that,should the fates allow,I might one day see the beast in the flesh-although it would be an especial treat to send my Ontario Northland freight & GO Transit Bi-Levels out on the high iron,I would be more than delighted just to watch over your shoulder whilst we split a case and put the world to rights
Many thanks mate,my enthusiasm has just been given a major boost
Yesterday it was ExpoRail - Air Canada - D-Link - Emails - fone calls 'n water in the bilges. Today it's VIA Rail - catching up - fone calls - Emails <aaarrrrgggggghhhhh>
I see Rob has made it back . . . weak excuse, but still made it! <grin> CM3 Shane is back in his dependable mode! Proper Acknowledgments later or in the AM . . .
Now Arriving on Track #3
Select Scenes from the Can-Am Railway
Number Two
Because Nick asked, these fotos will attempt to clarify his questions:
(1) Have just been studying the Can-Am pix in the detail they deserve ( I.E sober ) and am delighted to report that most queries have been answered-for example -I had not realised that the high line was a point-to-point-had not seen Mountain depot before & had always assumed that the branch ran down to Union Stn-was thus somewhat baffled that you noted that there are no gradients on the line-a good trick thought I...........on that matter-is mountain depot a single track or does it split-? I couldn`t see from the pix....
Have just been studying the Can-Am pix in the detail they deserve ( I.E sober ) and am delighted to report that most queries have been answered-for example -I had not realised that the high line was a point-to-point-had not seen Mountain depot before & had always assumed that the branch ran down to Union Stn-was thus somewhat baffled that you noted that there are no gradients on the line-a good trick thought I...........on that matter-is mountain depot a single track or does it split-? I couldn`t see from the pix....
Aerial view of Mountain Depot - looking west
(2 -5)
The junction for Union Stn was another grey area-I see now that it kicks in by the passing sidings in front of the panel--Now-do the VIA & AMTRAK sides of the station have seperate junctions ?-again difficult to tell,if so,do they both feed in in the same direction ?--
Aerial view of west side of mountains - VIA Rail in passing siding - Amtrak leaving mainline for approach to Union Station
also the loco yard-is it fed from the back road in the C.N freight yard ?-(the track nearest the panel,which continues beyond the yard proper )-
Amtrak heading to Union Station while VIA Rail RDCs wait to depart. VIA F40PH waiting to depart maintenance facility. Amtrak and VIA have separate tracks into Union Station - 4 each.
Aerial view of west side of mountains. CN freight yard does not connect with Amtrak loco maintenance facility.
(6) Can-Am City and Union Station <bonus shot of subway construction!>
Now to address your other questions <not in order>:
All the track is Bachmann EZ nickel silver, code 100. <I've ballasted over the "cheesy" roadbed that is attached>
. . . 104 22" radius curves . . . 20 . . . 1/3 18" radius curves . . .
. . .216 9" straights . . . 64 4 1/2" straights and a bunch of "fitters."
Turnouts are #5 and Crossovers are #6 <switches by any other name>.
. . . 04 #6 left Crossovers . . . 04 #6 right crossovers . . . 02 #5 Wyes . . .
. . . 11 #5 left turnouts . . . 11 #5 right turnouts
51 ft covered Canadian grain hoppers are:
Model Power 490-9513 - Canada, red
Model Power 490-9514 - Saskatchewan
Bachmann 160-19134 - Government of Canada
Bachmann 160-19139 - Heritage Fund
I've not had to weight any of these or any other of my freight cars. Passenger cars is 'nother story!
Hope that answers your questions. If I've missed any - try again!
Good morning fair Ruth how are you today. Right I'll just have the usual number three and the larger thermos of the BK speacial blend As always the change is yours and I'll leave some extra for a noontime round for the rest of this lot.Been a hectic couple o days for me,lots of loose ends to wrap up at work before next weeks vacation and meet up with the goodCoupled with an unexplained r power outage last night right in the middle of my catching up's I'm sure were responsible,maybe Nick's Darth Vader
Tom-great library wish list. Oh to have time to own every rail book one wised for ( I would need to find a new home though as Heather says I have too many books now and she's a big a rail nut as me <uh oh > ) deep down she gets as much enjoyment from the library as I do.
Got the emails, thanks for the updates both on the phone and in the either
I do hope the basement becomes right as rain or at least impervious to it sooner as opposed to later
Nick- you done good mate Just an absolute ton of good stuff,great pictures of all things on steel rails and the usual candid wit that you are so loved for. Your right about that Church of the Jedi piece actually made it on the local news over here,from what I understand there is or was a utube vid of the "attack" floating out there somewhere, as you said no one could make that up.
Pete-Thanks for keeping everything going the last couple days (daze) Too bad we will mis you this time out in Montreal, we will catch up with you at some point
I see that CM3 and Eric have kept the fire bunring the last couople o days as well, always important as we try to keep the bar on the rails
fergie-Loved the write up thanks for sharinmg that Happy sailing up in ice berg alley.
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Weather looks good here today - it's supposed to get close to 70 today which will be nice instead of all of the 40- degree stuff (with fog, rain, etc.) that we have had recently. Lots of rumors swirling around here re gas prices, but no change as of this a.m.
Thought for the day: Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
Let's see what we have today. Note, there is some model information in here (haw about that?)
Nick - I have been known to do post-prandial orations.
I enjoyed looking at your pictorial submissions; the railcars must have a complicated history; something like that has to be homemade, but I am sure we will find out about it later. The 1961 pic at Ennistimon is beautiful.
Boris with the Timesaver? This could take awhile.
When I was living in the big city, a friend modeled PRR in HO with a shelf layout based on the timesaver with a few more industries, etc. thrown in. Power was all superdetailed Bowser steamers built from kits. We had a lot of enjoyment working with that layout. The degree of detail (cars, locomotives and scenery) made up for the relatively small size which was approx. 2 foot wide by 8 foot long. I have a PRR diesel switcher which I ran on that operation. It started out as an Athearn unit but got repainted, detailed, etc.
Ah yes, local news - gotta love it! A couple of winters ago, there was a contretemps in Fayette County where some of the locals had a dust up regarding dogs. As always, it wound up in court where it boiled on for awhile somewhat similar to the never-ending lawsuit in Bleak House. The day came for a decision to be rendered and the local newsreader at the time came on the a.m. program and announced with all seriousness, "The decision will be made today as to where or not to euthanize vicious dogs at the courthouse." To paraphrase Lewis Carroll, "Beware the misplaced modifier."
Pete - Nice pictures, sir. A double Fairlee - not something you see every day, as Nick suggested.
Eric - Imagine, building bridges because of passenger traffic. BTW, NEC will be out of service between Boston and New York for a couple of days in June as they are replacing the Thames River Bridge in CT.
Mike was in with pictures of Hell Gate. Wish I could get the boat to enlarge a little bigger. Also enjoyed the picture of the car float.
OSP - E-mail rec'd. Hang in there. Good selection of books. I can recommend the NKP one to all who might be interested. Also thanks for the PRR S class at the World's Fair. RE Yogi's nickname, I understand that he got it when he was still living on The Hill in St. Louis. IIRC, somebody said he looked like an Indian philosopher, aka a "Yogi." I think that Joe Garagiola's book, Baseball Is a Funny Game has more about the story, but it's been a loooong time since I read it.
Good morning Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Yes Nick is great and so is Rob and I was very glad when their respective sabbaticals ended.
This neat old bridge connected Washington to Montreal via Central Vermont, and it connected Long Island to the mainland of North America.
I'm even less talkative in real life.
Mike
Wednesday's Witticism
Poor is having to sell the horse to buy a saddle.
How's that go Mid-week in mid-continent, that's it! Sooooooo, help yourself to the coffee, pastries ‘n <light> or <traditional> breakfasts! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Tuesday - April 22nd <all times Central daylite>:
Page 16 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:55 PM ‘n 8:07 PM <1:55 AM ‘n 2:07 AM Wednesday GMT>: Back with more energy ‘n enthusiasm than I can recall EVER at the Bar by the Ballast! Really putting your "back" into it, eh Not to put down anyone else's fine efforts, but ‘tween you ‘n the Wolfman, this joint would definitely need a tow should either of you take leave.
Well, there goes MY Darth Vader costume . . . <grin> Didn't know "cousin Jack" was on the loose!
Your foto spate reminds me to ACKNOWLEDGE those from Wolfman Pete! Sorry, Mate . . . anyway, looking at your efforts brings to mind that so much of our respective past decades was deeply dependent upon reliable rail transport. Today - the bloomin' gas guzzling trucks <lorries> ‘n so on. Think we'll ever get it right Nahhhhhhh.
Just musing - hands that toil at cement work then delicately manipulate the strings of fine musical instruments present quite a mental image. Ever simply squeeze the beeejeeezus outta the neck of the geeeeetar <uh oh>
The guy who will <ultimately> get the foundation issues squared away ‘round here has hands that could crush a steel girder. He's a blue grass banjo kinda guy. Go figger that, eh
Oh yeah, memo to file: Get Nick to refill the Carlsberg car at the private siding.
Caught the comments about the Welsh in North America before Columbus. Why not I figger it was the Vikings way before anyone else - except of course those who WALKED across the Bering Land Bridge way back before minnows <aka: Moby Dick>.
Moral support most appreciated - but when the day's done, that <crap> still is there, waiting to be taken care of. But, nice to know someone actually gives a Rat's Patoot!
Another ROUND! Why not - make it a double! <grin>
Page 16 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:45 PM: No, didn't say no fotos on Saturday - said I've dropped the Encore! ‘n Photo Posting Day - meaning it's just like any other day - BUT we're using the "Rule of Six" for pictures. Saturdays were "unrestricted" for photos . . .
That Vista Dome North Coast Limited book is outrageous in price. I've searched several sites and it's totally out of whack <for Moi>. Would love to have it, but . . . there ARE limits. <geesh>
Had a "compound awful day" - had all kinds of ‘puter issues with my wireless connection. Finally gave up on trying to resolve it after HOURS on the phone with those IDIOTS from the outsourced work force. Just went out and purchased new - another brand - and everything's fine. <aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh> Then when I tried to register their products <router ‘n card adapter> I couldn't! Led me on a merry go ‘round on their FAQs, etc. Tried to Email them - tried to call them - SAME thing. <aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh> AND that's only part of the frustration of yesterday. <aaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhh> At least the stuff is working!
One thing you MUST accept with our friend Wolfman - he has one speed: HIS! <grin>
I'll have to do a bit of thinking about your quiz question . . . translated: surf the web! <grin>
Rendezvous III is just a matter of WEEKS!
Thanx for the inclusive chat ‘n visit!
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Leon, meatloaf and mashed potatoes, please! The usual to drink!
No photos on Saturdays? Hmmm, we'll see. Another day of skyrocketing gas prices. Jumped 6-8 cents today.
Tom – Sorry to learn you had such a rough day. Hope this day (when you read this) will be a much better one!How I knew about H-T-W at the Second Class Saloon? Do I? Or did I? I don’t remember, I believe. Or was it the other way around? Sweden started on the path to become a green nation many years ago. Of the electric power roughly 50% comes from hydropower and 50 % from nuclear power. Then they have some oil burning power plants for backup. I think Swedes in general try to speak American English and not English English. Probably because so many American TV-shows are shown on Swedish TV. Very interesting books! I certainly would love to have them all. Bought a book last Saturday, Rail power. I haven’t had time to look at it yet. Of the books in you post I think I would first try to get The Vista-Dome North Coast Limited! Emails received, thank you! One responded to.CM3 – The story about the priest who went mining? That sounds interesting! Pete – No rush with that photo! But hurry up! The second bridge was built because of a sharp increase of number of passenger trains. Most freight trains from the southern parts of Sweden stop at a yard less than a mile away from those bridges and don’t have to pass through downtown. Those bridges are kind of high. More info on this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ÅrstabroarnaNice photos. You even caught a Danish locomotive with its typical red/white (the Danish flag) marking around the smokestack! I have heard the name Ffestiniog Railway before but don’t remember the location of it?Nick – A number of interesting pictures of narrow gauge equipment! Especially the rail cars and most of all the last picture! Are those narrow gauge lines still in operation? Cavan & Leitrim! Seems to be (or was) a busy railroad! Those locomotives had been around for quite some time when the photos were taken! I like that!
Today's Quiz: In what way is this monorail train connected to Sweden?
Right-I have just refreshed (don`t ask) and it seems no-one is queing behind me ,so-on with the motley-Leon-another round please dear boy-and a bottle of the rum to keep it company-Boris-now would be a good time for the snack platters then run along and play with your toys-I`ve chalked out the `timesaver` layout out in the yard and you can use Tex to switch beer crates,just make sure you tidy up afterwards.....why do I bother
Before I start again-I gotta share this with you--on the local ( I.E. Welsh ) news tonight-some weirdo has been sentenced-apparently ,somewhere up country there is a church of the Jedi Knights (daft but basically harmless ,given the strangeness that happens worldwide )-this loon has turned up ,dressed as Darth Vader ,and given a couple of them a right good seeing to with a light sabre/baseball bat-not sure what the sentence was-the newsreader was cracking up as she was reading it out-as were we...." YOUR POWERS ARE GREAT SKYWALKER innit bud ,USE THEM WISELY see you bach..."- You couldn`t make it up ......
O.K-PETE-in no particular order-Dogs by the Who-the music shelf of the library gives me :-Dogs/Call me lightning (track 604023) 6/68 and Pinball Wizard/Dogs (pt2) (track 604027)3/69-so you were right TWICE -neat !
Welsh In The US-that would be Prince Madoc of Gwynedd-have had this conversation before with the guvnor-(honey-can we have the can of worms again please)-yes I am in favour of the argument-ther have been some genetic assays that lend weight........
P1/P2`s-could hear the creak of thin ice as I was typing that one-"Earl Marishal" is the other name that comes to mind-poss. the companion to "Thane of Fife" ..??
Beer-the boys in the club don`t even need to taste it-they can tell by the way it settles in the glass-a wry smile & a slow shake of the head says it all-apart from the rednecks who just want to be noticed-they get a smile back and once they are well on the way ,a glassfull scooped straight out of the bucket " oh ,did you have a dicky tummy-must have been the kebab....."-small pleasures.....
Rhyl-will post the pix next job after P/P tomorrow-hope they bring back some memories -would love to have that machine in the house-" yes dear-its a valuable antique,course we can fit it in ....."
Fine pix from you-there is a definate shape to those Maunsell engines-and that little shunter is a beauty-love the Festers shots-"Pam" with the quarrymens coaches is timeless ( apart from those horrible apartments on the old slate wharf at the back-my guess for the Fairlie is the station above Minffordd (Penryndeudreath ?) -the one with the long oblique road crossing-looks like a down train shot at the lower end of the station..............
Right-everybody got beer,rum & snacks ???-O.K-here we go...
This time we are on the Cavan & Leitrim-on the left we have 4-4-0t Kathleen-an original loco-on the right T7D #`s 4&6-all at Ballinamore shed-various dates
A right mixed bag here-will spell it out later-engines with duplicate #`s from different lines
C&L 4-4-0t#8 at Dromod-1957
Yet another T& D engine/Henhouse/cattle wagon combo--between Dromod & Dereen-1959
T&D#1 2-6-0t propels a brake van through the streets of Tralee
T&D again-Castlegregory Jn,January 53-a cattle special
Right thats me done-enjoy the evening gentlemen-I have another day of digging holes and mixing concrete ahead of me so must seek my bed-take care,speak soon
PRR S1 6-4-4-6 (1939) (public domain)
Don't ask ‘n I won't tell regarding what kinda day this has been AND it ain't over! <geesh>
A leg up on the acknowledgments, as tomorrow appears to be a continuation of today. <arrrrggggghhhh>
Page 16 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:31 AM: Emails received ‘n answered - I hope!
Sorry I didn't get A-ROUNDTUIT with regard to my preferences for your slides. I will give it serious thought ‘n surely reply before too long. Appreciate the kind words ‘n support in your Email . . .
The moniker Yogi surely requires an explanation when it comes to some classic names for baseball players! I remember Mizell, but then again I remember Moby Dick when he was a minnow too!
And yes, if Abe is able - we'll surely drop "in."
Many thanx for the visit, quarters ‘n ROUND, as always!
Page 16 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:54 PM: Your Email reply to my reply to . . . and Rendezvous III has been received. Nothing more to say for now! <phew>
Not much happening at our bar, yet YOU always find so much to comment on. Amazin' simply amazin'! Don't know what we'd do without the Bar Chandler.
One more brew at our Public Place ‘n I would've put up a sail ‘n floated home! <grin>
Simply overwhelmed today - but must ask, what's a "Double-Fairlee"??
Remember: TWO finger typing is "in" <tap> <tap> <maybe tappity tap>
Gotta run . . . thanx for the support ‘n ROUND!
Page 16 - Nick<nickinwestwales> at 6:33 PM <1:33 AM Wednesday GMT>: Things have been sooooooooo difficult today <Tuesday>, that I haven't even tackled the responses planned for your Can-Am Railway questions tomorrow <Wednesday>. Hang in there, Mate - I'll get A-ROUNDTUIT! <grin>
Most strange spate of fotos I've seen in quite a bit . . . no prizes for design excellence in any of ‘em <in my OH-PIN-YUN> . . . but anything running on steel wheels ‘n steel rails can't all be bad, eh
Glad you enjoyed the Rum . . . I'd suspect that anything yellow ‘n described the way you tried to <thanx to the Censor> would be best used as a sink drain cleanser! <uh oh>
Gotta get back to "it" . . . been that kinda day! <yikes> Many thanx for the ROUND!
Well good evening my lovelies-Its been a BEAUTIFUL day here-(much improved by spending a large part of it in town getting band bookings,a leisurely pasty eaten sitting by the river watching the ducks ,swans & sweet young things against the still impressive bulk of the castle and other such frivolity.......it`s a tough life out here in the boonies
Right Leon-time to leap into action-a round of drinkies for my good buddies here then can we have the screen down and the projector out-now Mr Wolfe has set the ball rolling ,I feel a midweek slideshow coming on:-gonna do this in two bits-1- to circumvent the rule of 6 and 2-cos PETE`s answers will prolly count as a whole post...............
So-TOM-Thanks for the drink last night mate -had a wee drop of rum for the road-BTW-the wine was home made and possibly the worst I have ever tasted-went straight down the sink. Thank you for the vote of confidence and the Mighty Mouse-spooky how the artist has captured my finely honed physique so well.......................
Congrats on the 300th of the 3rd incarnation-beware the power of 3.......
That Hudson has a sort of space age look about it to my eye-what say you ?-dunno if its the disc wheels underpinning the streamlining......Although the Pennsy cover from the bookshelf looks even more extreme (would stomp through a bath full of kittens to have them volumes on my shelves BTW......)
Thanks for the Yuma link-will check it out on the way home from here
CM3-Loving the thoughts for the day -fits right in with my cynical mindset-remind me to book you for the after-dinner speech next time we break bread together.....Yes indeed ,the 600 all drank well, as did the good time had by all,who had a few port & lemons before her next appointment..................
ERIC-You posted some Swedish narrow gauge shots a while ago that I thought were Irish-here is why:-
We are off to the Emerald Isle again-starting with the County Donegal Rly-rather better maintained & equipped than most,they mostly used railcars for passenger and some rather graceful 2-6-4t`s for freight & excursion service--Here we have 5a class #2 "Blanche" at Lough Eske in 1958
Here we have railcar #16 at Letterkenny c. 1959
Here we have car #18 (now fully restored ) at Friary halt nr Rossnowlagh on a sunday working,taking worshippers to the Franciscan Friary from Ballyshannon
Back to steam-here is Blanche again-this time with a freight-departing Strabane for Letterkenney,c. 1958
We now move on to the West Clare-here is Walker Bo-Bo-diesel #F503 leaving Ennistimon c. 1961
Here we have a Walker railcar with Inchicore trailer & van approaching Lahinch c. 1960
There will now be a short intermission-Mines a staropramen please
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
TOM Congratulations on posting reply number 300 as well as turning page l6, I will enjoy the top up.
Yes will very much miss Allan while he is away two weeks, lets hope he can find somewhere where he is able to get in touch with the bar.
Enjoyed the photos of the Lewis and Clarke and the ones of Clyde the Clydesdale. There can't be too many bars that are called Public Houses this side of the ‘pond' or I may be wrong. I must congratulate you on the steadiness of the hand that took the photos; I think you could have handled a few more pints. Thanks for the link to St Charles, I bet the town does a good trade from the people who cycle on the KATY Trail.
I also saw the program from Sweden on the new wood fired Power Station.
Another great selection of 6 railroad books, with their descriptions, that would grace any library. It would be hard to pick which one to read first but is someone was a Pennsy fan the Standard Railroad of the World looks to be a winner.
Good award for Nick.
NICK I saw a TV documentary in the UK once that said that there may have been settlers from Wales in America long before Columbus
It would be a brave barman who would have served those Rugby players and fans less than perfect beer. I wonder if those that can't be bothered or are saving some pennies by not pulling off the beer realize there are many folks that won't say anything but just think the beer always tastes like that and don't go back, even the regulars who take the beer back causes embarrassment.
I have found a link to the Gresley P1s.The engine with the rude name was a P2 (I guess in today's PC days it would have to be called ‘Male Chicken Beyond Watford'). These two classes were the UK's only standard gauge 2-8-2s I believe and the P1s were even fitted with a booster engine, I can't think of any other UK locomotives fitted with them.
http://www.lner.info/locos/P/p1.shtml
The line I was thinking about a Rhyl was across the river along the sea wall. Talking of the Rhyl Miniature Railway brings back happy memories for me from the mid to late 1950s early 60s, with those wonderful Bassett Lowke steam engines around the lake and through a short tunnel back to the station.
It brought back a memory of an amusement machine, by the RMR station, the worked by an old penny; it was like a big pinball machine with a glass top. Inside was a model of a streamlined LMS Duchess class and a couple of coaches, I guess about O gauge. The train ran on a circular track with a few stations on the layout. One of the stations names would light up and the idea was to stop the loco at the exact spot on the station named to win another penny. I wonder if this or a similar machine survived to be in existence today.
I would love to see those old postcard views of the RMR.
As you say, any of those Irish Narrow Gauge lines is worthy of a post, they certainly were a law unto themselves.
It really will be a red-letter day in railway preservation when the Welsh Highland connects with the Ffestiniog Railway again. I will have a look at the web site.
ERIC Still looking for my photo of a single line token exchange on the SVR.
Many thanks for the photo. Was the second bridge built mainly for an increase in freight or passenger traffic do you know. It looks as though it is a high bridge. Was the new bridge like the original one or was a more modern design used.
CM3 Good to see you can still remember the words from Mighty Mouse.
Looking in the P1 2-8-2s of the LNER I saw they had a booster engine,which was very unusual in the UK I believe. Was this a common feature of some of the steam locomotives on the North American railroads do you know. On the P1s it said in the link the feature was wasted, as the haulage capacity of the P1s was more than the railway infrastructure could handle comfortably.
Afew mixed photos from the UK.
A while ago Nick and I were talking about the Southern Railway (England) classes N and U classes. This is U 2-6-0 No 31625. this loco was introduced in 1928 they same year as the River class 2-6-4 Tanks were converted to 'U's. This batch was not converted from the Rivers but was a new build the same with a few detail differences.
31625 on the Severn Venturer steam railtour.
The photo is taken before depature at London Waterloo I believe
At the Middleton Railway at Leeds.
Danish State Railways No 385. Built in 1895 by the German firm of Richard Hartmann.
The locomotive was mainly used for loading train ferries in Denmark.
A couple of Ffestiniog Railway photos.
WTT Palmerston at Porthmadoc.
A Double-Fairlie not sure of the location though.
Well RUTH a round please.
Appears I've made the 300th reply at "Our" Place III while turning to Page 16 as well! So, Boris - ring the bell 'n give 'em a top-up on the house!
Now Arriving on Track Number Two!
Hard Cover Classic Train Books for the Can-Am Library!
Number Six
Grand Trunk Western in Color - Vol 1 <wanted>
Book Description: The Grand Trunk Western was an interesting blend of Canadian and U.S. railway practices. It had hotshot freights that serviced a burgeoning automobile manufacturing traffic in the Detroit area while also operating a top-notch Chicago to Toronto main line passenger operation during the time period presented in this book. Featuring the color photography of Emery Gulash and Sanford Goodrick, the pictures with accompanying captions are organized by GTW operating divisions and subdivisions. The pictures presented are about 60 percent steam to 40 percent diesel with depots, passenger equipment and facilities also presented.
New Haven Railroad - Color History <in library>
Book Description: Captured in rare archival imagery, readers can explore the New Haven, the legendary railroad of New York, New Haven, and Hartford. From 1872 to 1969 this railroad connected Boston and Providence with New York City. New Haven's four-track electric mainline across the Hell Gate Bridge into New York Citycarried millions of commuters and travelers and is one of the most recognized railroad images in the world. The book includes a large selection of New Haven print advertising featuring the famous Shore Line Route as well as the memorable orange, black, and white color scheme. The book is a definitive guide to 'The New Haven as well as a rich source of pictorial history.
New York Central in Color, Vol 1 <wanted>
Book Description: The New York Central as presented here in this volume depicts the railroad as it existed in the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's. Whether captured on film on a branch line, in a yard, or making speed on a main line, it was a company hard at work doing what it did best, moving products and people, in all sorts of weather, during corporate calm and corporate upheaval. It was a railroad characterized by exceptionally fine passenger trains operated by well-trained professionals, backed by a proud tradition, and of swiftly rolling freight trains. They're all right here! This book is intended to show the railroad as many saw it, but also to show sides of the railroad that many did not pay particular attention. Their were many individuals who loved watching and documenting this railroad and many of their excellent photographs were selected for their visual impact.
Nickel Plate Passenger Service - Postwar years <wanted>
Book Description: This book is the complete history of NKP's post-WWII passenger trains from the classy Pacific's to the great PA's and finally down to the merger with the N&W and the disposition of the cars. In between is the full and complete story of the trains, their service, the schedules and many facets of the service. Lavishly illustrated with great photographs from the best photographers including NKP official photographers. No stone is left unturned in this highly readable book that's a must for both the passenger train buff and the NKP fan.
Northern Pacific, The Vista-Dome North Coast Limited <wanted>
Book Description: The Vista-Dome North Coast Limited was the premier passenger train of the Northern Pacific Railway from 1954 to 1970. Dressed in Raymond Loewy's two-tone green paint scheme, deemed by many to be the most attractive ever applied to a passenger train, the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited featured glass-topped dome cars, which allowed passengers a sweeping view of the scenic territory between Chicago and Seattle. It also featured a unique lounge car with a Lewis and Clark theme, top-notch dining car service, and state-of-the-art Pullman sleeping cars. This book gives the complete story of the NP's Vista-Dome North Coast Limited. Illustrated with over 280 photos, it provides a detailed look at the train's 1954-70 operation from the perspectives of both the traveling public and the train's crew. The author takes you on marvelous trip between Chicago and Seattle aboard the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited during its heyday. Included is a personal tour of the entire train from front to rear. Detailed diagrams and discussion about the train's makeup, operation, and appearance make this a valuable addition to the library of anyone interested in the Northern Pacific Railway or passenger trains, whether as historian, modeler, railfan, or an armchair reader who would like to revisit the good old days of passenger rail travel. Come and experience what it was like to travel in comfort, eat in a luxurious dining car, relax in one of the train's lounges, sleep in plush, private rooms, be pampered by the best crews in the business, and meet some of the world's most interesting people. Enjoy the magnificent scenery from one of the four vista-domes on this beautiful, Four Dome Train West. <from: goldenspike.us>
Book Description: The Vista-Dome North Coast Limited was the premier passenger train of the Northern Pacific Railway from 1954 to 1970. Dressed in Raymond Loewy's two-tone green paint scheme, deemed by many to be the most attractive ever applied to a passenger train, the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited featured glass-topped dome cars, which allowed passengers a sweeping view of the scenic territory between Chicago and Seattle. It also featured a unique lounge car with a Lewis and Clark theme, top-notch dining car service, and state-of-the-art Pullman sleeping cars. This book gives the complete story of the NP's Vista-Dome North Coast Limited. Illustrated with over 280 photos, it provides a detailed look at the train's 1954-70 operation from the perspectives of both the traveling public and the train's crew. The author takes you on marvelous trip between Chicago and Seattle aboard the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited during its heyday. Included is a personal tour of the entire train from front to rear. Detailed diagrams and discussion about the train's makeup, operation, and appearance make this a valuable addition to the library of anyone interested in the Northern Pacific Railway or passenger trains, whether as historian, modeler, railfan, or an armchair reader who would like to revisit the good old days of passenger rail travel. Come and experience what it was like to travel in comfort, eat in a luxurious dining car, relax in one of the train's lounges, sleep in plush, private rooms, be pampered by the best crews in the business, and meet some of the world's most interesting people. Enjoy the magnificent scenery from one of the four vista-domes on this beautiful, Four Dome Train West.
This book gives the complete story of the NP's Vista-Dome North Coast Limited. Illustrated with over 280 photos, it provides a detailed look at the train's 1954-70 operation from the perspectives of both the traveling public and the train's crew. The author takes you on marvelous trip between Chicago and Seattle aboard the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited during its heyday. Included is a personal tour of the entire train from front to rear. Detailed diagrams and discussion about the train's makeup, operation, and appearance make this a valuable addition to the library of anyone interested in the Northern Pacific Railway or passenger trains, whether as historian, modeler, railfan, or an armchair reader who would like to revisit the good old days of passenger rail travel. Come and experience what it was like to travel in comfort, eat in a luxurious dining car, relax in one of the train's lounges, sleep in plush, private rooms, be pampered by the best crews in the business, and meet some of the world's most interesting people. Enjoy the magnificent scenery from one of the four vista-domes on this beautiful, Four Dome Train West.
Pennsylvania - Standard Railroad of the World <wanted>
Book Description: This book is a celebration of the Pennsylvania Railroad and an attempt to show through color photography what set it apart from other American railroads. Some of the themes are superlatives: the most, the biggest, the best, in motive power, physical plant, rolling stock, employees. Others point to what was unique, characteristic, idiosyncratic, unforgettable: the Penny look, in equipment, stations, geography, operations. A final theme is history: what pictures point to the changes in the railroad and its environment that make us understand its decline and fall, from industry leadership to bankruptcy in the Penn Central debacle. <from: multiple sources>
Book Description: This book is a celebration of the Pennsylvania Railroad and an attempt to show through color photography what set it apart from other American railroads. Some of the themes are superlatives: the most, the biggest, the best, in motive power, physical plant, rolling stock, employees. Others point to what was unique, characteristic, idiosyncratic, unforgettable: the Penny look, in equipment, stations, geography, operations. A final theme is history: what pictures point to the changes in the railroad and its environment that make us understand its decline and fall, from industry leadership to bankruptcy in the Penn Central debacle.
Missed any " Click" the link for "Our" Place II, then go to the Page shown:
#1 . . . Page 163
#2 . . . Page 179
#3 . . . Page 186
#4 . . . Page 196
#5 . . . Page 6 "Our" Place III
NYC Hudson 4-6-4 (public domain)
G'day!
Eric - Pete 'n Shane: You've got "time sensitive" Email regarding Rendezvous III to respond to. Thanx!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Partly cloudy here today and it is supposed to start getting warmer - I'll believe it when it happens.
Thought for the Day: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt or a leaky tire.
Fergie was in with comments - fog glasses, indeed! Lovely time of year to head to where you are going. Also, thanks for the Nova Scotia material.
DL - Good luck on your trip
Pete stopped by with comments
Nick - 600 Welsh rugby fans?!? Sounds like last year's Christmas party. Well, I have spent time with Welsh miners and shaft sinkers - tough crowd, but excellent folks! A good time was had by all.
Eric - Thanks for the picture of Stockholm approach.
OSP was by with comments. Preacher Roe? How about Vinegar Bend Mizell? I just thought of another nickname; Mountain Music Melton who pitched for the Giants from 1937 to 1944. Speaking of Preacher, remind me at the rendezvous to tell you about the priest who went mining - it's a true story.
"Here he comes to save the day! That means that Mighty Mouse is on the way!"
No Awk, I don't know why all of this stuff is stored in the memory.
Reached 80 at the Haus yesterday . . . too warm too soon! <ugh> Keep the temps in the 70s ‘n all's well with the world for Moi! Petrol at $3.49 <rounded> up at "Collusion Corner" with the expectation of four bucks not that far away . . .
Another day after Monday ‘n the march to "hump day" continues! Fill up the coffee mugs with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee - check out The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n try a selection from our Menu Board for <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts!
Monday - April 21st <all times Central daylite>:
Page 15 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 5:16 PM <7:16 PM ADT>: I doubt you'll be having very many decent nights sleep while in berg territory, Skipper. Can't have enough "eyes" in those conditions. <yikes>
I believe those Emails were sent to you in March . . . just checked my files ‘n <yup> that's when it was - Mar 12th ‘n 17th . . . anyway, not worth digging for.
Appreciate the contact . . .
Page 15 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:45 PM ‘n 7:09 PM <12:45 AM ‘n 1:09 AM Tuesday GMT>: Seems that sometime ago, you were anointed as our Mighty Man who Saved the Day! Well, you've certainly been coming through in the clutches for us as this joint is not only mired down in numbers, but we seem to never know who will be here! So, here's to Mighty Man!
A link to the Three-Ten to Yuma book!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Ten_to_Yuma
Never smile at a crocodile OR the Forum's Censor! Here's a way ‘round it all - just insert hyphens between the letters of a word you suspect will be <bleeped>! For example, B-L-E-E-P - that will get thru! Good laff on that passing PP remark <NOT Pike Perspectives!> . . . <grin>
At least 3 major brickwork jobs in the first foto - who knows how many over the centuries those buildings have been standing - Good eye, Mate!
Must say that the place has more charm in appearance than otherwise. Meaning, I've been there so many times that the "warts" show thru. It's really a "plastic" kinda place, hardly a neighborhood pub. Whilst the brew is fine <microbrewed> ‘n the bill o' fare not bad, it's really a touristy kinda place as is just about everything in "olde St. Charles, MO." Lots of history in that area . . . flags of France - Spain ‘n of course the newly formed U.S. flew over the place.
Links for the curious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Charles,_Missouri
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~phollrah/
Good to see ya ‘n appreciate the CHEER!
Page 15 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:49 PM: Yes the H-T-W "gals" do indeed frequent the Second Class Saloon. But the question is - how do YOU know Hmmmmmmm.
"In" again before midnite - beginning to develop some bad habits, eh
Heard that Sweden has become one of the world's "most green" of nations. Had interviews with many of your former countrymen. Interesting that I could understand their English so well. But still can't get anymore than 2 out of 3 words with our Wolfman friend! <grin> Anyway, back to the story . . . Sweden supposedly is earmarking the year 2022 as the benchmark to get totally away from fossil fuels.
Another fine inclusive Post along with a great cab shot!
Leon, a ham sandwich, please. A cold Tui!
This Monday went by very quickly. One day closer to the Rendezvous! Just 24 days!!!
Tom – Two super good movies at the Emporium this week! 3:10 to Yuma and Field of Dreams! Love them both!! I noticed that Hilda, Tilda, and Wilda are in the Stooges movie. Aren’t they the same “girls” that are spending most of their spare time at the Second Class Saloon? You obviously had a good time last Saturday. At least the place, Lewis & Clark’s look very nice in your photos! I wonder if Clyde the Clydesdale is related to all the Clydesdales we saw at the Rendezvous last year? Maybe a cousin? Nick – The Can-Am High Line is point to point. That makes me wonder how they managed to get those RDC’s there? Thanks for the info on the Clonakilty line! Big Otto is a Lithuanian?! That explains it all. Also many thanks for the response to my question about the Irish 2-6-0T! 3’, very close to what most narrow gauge railroads in Sweden were. 891 mm. Rob – I’ve noticed the less generous approach at Cracker Barrel since they skipped their neighborhood program a number of years ago. Sorry I don’t have a bunch of CPR shots. CM3 – I didn’t know they are daylighting tunnels on Tehachapi! I have never been there but one day I will. It’s not that far from here. Signaling is a very interesting part of railroading. On the layouts I used to have I always added a lot of signals. Fergie – Interesting article on Nova Scotia Railways! The fence requirement was very similar to what was required in Sweden. Paid for by the railroads! DL – Looking forward to your future trip report! Pete – I have seen photos of different devices for single line operation in the U.K. so I have an idea of what they may look like. But if you find that photo I would love to see it.
Approaching Stockholm from the southwest. Today there is a second double track bridge to the left.
Yo Nick!
I see you are still logged in . . . have one on Moi!
Yo Rob!
Check your Email!
Yo Pete!
Response to response to response sent <phew>
TOM & FERGIE-looks like we passed in the channel,as it were-TOM-that looks like a nice place to while away an hour or three- and looking at the amount of compo patching up the brickwork in the first pic,one that has seen a few wild times--
Clyde looks like a fine beast-good to see a traditional heavy horse earning a gentle but productive living
FERGIE-did I read that right and it will be your command-if so congratulations and good luck up there
BTW-interesting to see from my last post that the censor has blipped half of an engine name (male chicken of the north ) but passed urine (so to speak) without a murmur...strange days indeed
Evening fellow tipplers-Leon,I`ll take a bottle of Starop please as Fergie is in the chair -health and happiness mate !!..
Looks like one of those rapid turnover days today-obviously all the seismic activity is making folk restless--so-whos been in:-
ROB-spoke to lil sis yesterday & she reckons the whole of downtown TO was wilting visibly in the heat-gotta make you wonder -somethings not right somewhere....???
Must confess I share your modelling philosophy,at least in broad--get something running ,worry about the fine detail later and unless one is planning to exhibit ( a somewhat different kettle of fish,to be sure ) build for your own satisfaction............
TOM-Howdy mate !-what a beaut of a header pic -a rare synthesis of form & function in perfect balance,nice choice..
Looking forward to weds. PP session,apologies for the barrage of questions,but once I got started..
R.E `Yuma`,I have a ghost of a memory that the plot line was loosely based on real events-I have a vague recollection of half watching a history channel prog that was attempting to reconstruct the original events,sadly thats all I have-and that none too reliable....hmm
FERGIE-A most interesting piece on the far north-calls to mind some stuff from the early days over here-If I have the right of it some of the first public carriers ( Stockton & Darlington,Liverpool & Manchester et al ) lacking any other precedent,operated in the same way as the canal networks I.E-the company provided the basic infrastructure & the customers provided the plant neccessary to move their products-obviously as the network started to form and the whole thing took off more regulation became required and now,ironically,we have come full circle,with one company responsible for the tracks etc and individual franchises operating the trains-such is progress........
CM3-Thanks for the background R.E sleighride-was interested to read recently (possibly in one of Bill Brysons books) that British & Icelandic whaling & fishing fleets used to use the waters off the north-east coast regulaly and made frequent landfall to re-provision long before Columbus was a gleam in his daddies eye-indeed it was postulated that when the first settlers landed,they only survived because they ran into some natives who spoke good enough English to be able to show them the ropes............(pass me that can of worms honey-I think I have a use for it)
DAN-Enjoy the trip mate-looking forward to your report-always a good read
PETE-Thanks for the missing `W`--Dogs by the Who--yes,it rings a bell-will investigate further...Any barman worth his salt should pull off a pint or two from each line (depending on the length of pipe run to the cellar-in the rugby club next door,we had an ullage allowance for this and pulling through new casks-on our busiest day (boxing day local derby ) I have seen 3 full 5 gallon buckets at the end of a session-thats from approx 600 Welsh rugby fans funnelling down the ale from about 4pm until about 2am
Thanks for the additional detail R.E train lengths-I had only heard of the P1`s (**** `o the north & Thane of Fife ? ) being used on the Aberdeen runs out of Waverley--much like the `streaks` in their latter days.
Now then Rhyl-rang a bell or two-would you be thinking of the Rhyl Miniature Rly-is a 15" line originally using Bassett-Lowke & Greenly plant-based at the marine lake-apparently still going as of 1991-have got a handfull of old postcard views of it if you are interested...
ERIC-I owe you an answer from the other day-The Irish 2-6-0t was a 3` gauge machine-The Irish lines were built to either that or the 5`3" gauge-all originally independant ,the lines in the south were all grouped together as the Great Southern after Eire gained independance from the U.K in `23-as individual lines were closed down,any servicable locos were shuffled around to other lines-hence the Tralee & Dingle engine on the Cavan & Leitrim-this line owed its longevity to the happy accident of serving Irelands only coal mine-at Arigna.
Any one of these lines merits an entire post with as many pix as can be mustered- from the County Donegal with neat & well kept carmine & cream railcars and some handsome steamers to the Tralee & Dingle,which in its last days ( it operated once a month to service a cattle fair) relied on ex-employees being bribed with guinness and cash to run trains on a route that would give any health & safety inspector a fit of screaming blue conniptions..........
PETE-again-we spoke about the Welsh Highland the other day--did I mention that rails are now layed back through Beddgelert again (and are now down into the Aberglaslyn pass ) they have a website which provides an excellent photo journal-well worth a look-just type in W.H.Rly to google and enjoy -made an enquiry and they are hoping to have `Russell` ( the surviving original W.H.R engine) ready for the grand re-opening-apologies if I am repeating myself
O.K fellas-looks like my shout this time so belly up-just gonna go pull the cork on what looks suspiciously like home -brewed wine ( either that or a massive urine sample.....) but would recommend you all stick with what you were having-if it`s not too rebarbative will try and put something interesting together-perhaps from the emerald isle
back in a bit
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