Right then Leon-fill `em up dear boy-its pix time,and to start us off....
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Heres one from the ever reliable Clonakilty line-I believe the viaduct is a model of Ballydehob on the much missed Schull & Skibereen line-not sure where the lighthouse and warehouses tie in tho.......
And just for comparison-here is the real thing.....
Here we are down by the loco shed in the industrial district on the S.O.B lines-camera flash rather lessens the effect
A full & frank exchange of views concerning the lading of this gon in the M.O.W yard....and yes-those wire coils are guitar strings
Those were the days...........................
Rather stretching the definition of `model` -the Bickton Woodland Rly in Devon- 10.25" guage (I think)-mostly of interest `cause it is set up for one man operation- all turnouts are `sprung`-the route is a Y shape,the main stn here is at the tail ,the left arm has a balloon loop and the right a simple run-round, the crotch of the Y is a triangle with all 3 points set to the left-all the driver has to do is uncouple and run round at each end-as well as the coupler bar there are brake lines and audio connections for a running commentary-speeds hit a max of about 5 mph,if that......
Right looks like I`ve had my six (& one for the road ) so-Leon-better put another round in to wish the travellers bon voyage and I will bid you all a fond farewell,take care now
Silent MIKE-looks like we posted together-what a fine selection of maps,the great W.S.C and a mighty Texas--good hit
Well here we are again-another day another dollar (curse the minimum wage...)
Leon,I think I will join ERIC in a Tuborg or 3 tonight and naturally a round for the boys...
First up,along with everyone else-may I wish TOM & Count ROBULLA a safe journey and a speedy return-trip reports & pix eagerly awaited--take care now guys-may the force be with you
ROB-Many thanks for the price check-very useful -BTW-the `R` joke is getting high mileage and the two vid clips are hoots--for the record,I have never cooked mouse and any interest I may have in beavers is between me & my maker--moving swiftly on.........
ERIC-At risk of sounding stupid,did that RTL unit have center cars ?-it looks like a lot of engine room for very little revenue space as is...
TOM-Appreciate the candid response r.e lifestyle choices-had no intention of prying per se-just idle curiosity .......Another splendid set from Can-Am country-gives a good feel for the vertical depth you have created---I trust that cut of grain cars is headed for the famed Borderlands Brewery (Mentors finest ales ) --Cutting in on PETEs post,The real King George V is (or was) kept not far from Bristol,at the Bulmers cider factory just outside Taunton.........Keep your eye out for my new cook-book,101 meals you wouldnt feed a dog-the publishers expect great things-this being their first title outside of the specialist pornography market ( the xmas party should be a night to remember........)
CM3-Entirely agree-have never warmed to the later O.N.R liveries-dont look so bad on 2nd gen units but the FP7`s were meant for that Green/Yellow combo....
PETE-Hot news here is that `Duke of Gloucester` is due to run into Fishguard on sat & Milford on mon-a picfest is being organised and will be up here a.s.a.p
I agree that the 15" is an undervalued part of our rail heritage-have started research already-boy what a tangled web-not sure if it will attract general interest but will certainly make a good subject for this weekend,given the all -hands-to-the-pumps nature of things.....Looking forward to W/Pool pix-another overlooked line but oozing charm & with much of the original atmosphere retained,unlike a lot of the better known lines.
Thanks for the confirmation re `Morayshire`-didnt have the trusty Ian Allan to hand so was a best guess based on the look of the thing-couldnt get high enough resolution on the 1st pic to get the number -will have to go to the web addy & see whats there (follow me Watson-the game`s afoot !!!)--the Hush-hush was a pretty distinctive beast so no kudos for me there..
Have got some old pix of B/G tanks-were a couple worked on what is now the Gwili-will stick `em on the list ...As to F.R right hand running,my understanding is that the way the stations were layed out,it gave the smoothest passage to the gravity slate trains.......who can tell ??
DAN-Good to see you mate ! -Thanks for the trip report -sounds like the new order meets with cautious approval-but as you say-prices aimed at the expense account,chef prepared or not ( for £15 for a fry I would want Anton Mossiman manning the stove-but then I was ever the skinflint... ) I take your point,an experience-and what price on that....
Was a TV series recently on the new Euro terminal--looked like a project and a half-you may have seen it yourself-they seemed to be embracing the traditional ethos of building for the future rather than the more recent chuck it up and grab the cash approach.......
The Caley Pullmans was a new one on me-good call -on that tack-one of the Irish companies had the L.N.W.R as a principle shareholder and was still running stock in that lines livery until the late `50`s or so-will provide pix evidence as soon as I can find it....The Railway Roundabout DVD set is definately on the xmas prezzie list
O.K guys-gonna post this and go find some model pix that havnt been done to death already
back in a bit
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house and have a great trip north!
Mike
Okay folks as the good Captain requested here are the ground rules once again now that we have hit page 20 on the new best Bar By the Ballast .
Rob
G'day Gents!
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History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.
Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains."
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Good afternoon Leon figured I'd stick my head in the door again to make sure everyone is doing their jobs <grin> I see that Boris is busy polishing the brass rails and spitoons,make sure you take time out to fed the critters as well , yes the health inspector is still lurking about so I don't want to see you anywhere near the donut mosheen. ( at least until possum seson starts up 0 Just a guiness for me this aft ther Leon thanks , here is a bit for a round for the late afternoon stragglers.
Tom-Yes I will have my camera with me, here is hopping that we don't break it If memory serves from last years run out to catch the Ocean the only realitivly long stop was at Kingston otherwise they were in and outs. It's one of the designated smoking stops for those needing a puff.Nice open platform in Kingston just like in Brantford so it should afford a good shot or two.If we have LRC coaches ( with clean windows ) you see some nice views of the older stone stations along the way, Belleville comes to mind. Update on the weather tomorrow supposed to be 11C and rainy off and on now in Brantford,Fridays supposed to be similar but without the rain, of coarse six hours ago they sadi it was going to be partly sunny and 14C tomorrow, oh well.
I just hope I don't get to the Union sattion in Toronto and find you surrounded by surly RCMP stun gunning the crazy surfer dude.
Pete-What can I say wish you were with Tom tomorrow , mind you I would have had to warn the Arms to tap a couple more Kegs,would have been worse if Nick was along, but oh so much more interesting Too bad Nick isn't sneaking into teh country in Missnick's bags when they come out, we could have hidden him.
Interesting info on the Deltics et all, I will indeed look forward to Allan's museings on teh subject when he gets back in. You could still make a late night red-eye and join Tom and I. Heather and I will even put you up for the night
Dan-Sounds like a worthwhile trip by rail,good to hear that the food was still prepared by a chef,most railroad dinning cars have long ago gone to catered microwaved food.A true testiment to the times. Your point about the dinning car services and Budd consists are right on. I haven't gotten completly through my latest copy of Classic trains but I thoroughly enjoyed the article on the intereurban sleepers that migrated north into BC.
In what will most probably be "it" for me ‘til my return, here's the day's recognition of those who help to keep this joint movin' forward!
I do have a FAVOR to ask: We are approaching Page 20 - so will someone PLEASE cut 'n paste the "rules" from Page 1 You may recall that I wanted to keep doing that every time we reach a Page in multiples of ten. Many thanx in advance IF I don't get to it before departing!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Wednesday - April 29th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 19 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:37 AM: Just a tad out of season for mince pie - but we do have the "scrapings" from the Possum that went thru our MoSheen - that should ‘do it.' <yikes>
I haven't checked the Beantown rail sked lately, but my guess is there aren't any nite-time departures to warrant a sleeper. With Acela on the line my guess is today's thinking rules those accommodations as archaic. But of course, WE don't think so!
Cards just won the game against Cincy - took 2 of 3 ‘n keeps them respectably above .500 for the month of April. A fairly good start - terrific in comparison with last year. But then again, a month-long forfeit would have been better! <yikes>
Appreciate the well wishes for the trip - wish all the guys could come along. Riding the rails for a Rendezvous really should be something we DO before this joint gets shut down. REALLY! If money wasn't such an impediment . . . <grin> The round trip to Gaspé would be a "good-un" since the Budd cars are on the line ‘n we'd have two nights available to us with no hotels to worry about.
Many thanx for the visit, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 19 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:25 AM: As always, enjoyed our chat - hard to believe that we'll begin our mini-Rendezvous I reunion in just a matter of HOURS! Remember, I'll be wearing my California Surfer Dude outfit - so just look for a 6'4" blonde, blue eyed guy wearing a purple flowered shirt with a surfboard strapped to my caboose! Oh yeah, flip flops - of course!
Only thing I really, really want to do - after checking in at the hotel in Brantford - is to spend a bit of time at the bar in the St. George Arms pub. Never partook in that aspect during the 3 nights we were there back in '06. Don't know why, either!! Anyway, that's gotta happen! Need some ‘action' fotos . . . Then you can head home to pick up your bride, while leaving me to my devices! <uh oh>
Friday, we're off to Montréal via Toronto by rail. That should be a fine trip ‘n I'm looking forward to it. In spite of having traveled the Toronto-Montréal segment a few times each way, it's always "different," if you follow my thinking. That's what's so much fun about train travel - "they" even change the telephone poles! <really!>
I'm hoping to get some "snaps" of at least the loco on our trains - most times that just doesn't happen unless there's a long enough stop for the passengers to stretch ‘n do whatever at the platform. Most of my VIA shots have come from places like Moncton or Jasper where the stops permit such a venture.
Hope you're taking along a camera . . .
Seems like the "mistake" regarding our DoNut - and - Roadkill ‘n Sausage MoSheens has set up quite an innovative <if not completely disgusting> array of "menu" concoctions. Hmmmmm - perhaps we should "do it" again - run the road kill thru the DoNut device one-more-time! <ugh>
Appreciate the visit ‘n chat!
Page 19 - Pete <pwolfe> at 1:07 PM: You weren't "in" yesterday Did anyone take note <grin>
Of course your "time sheet" has been duly annotated to reflect your absence. We put a "governor" on your dipper just to ensure that you don't scoop out more than you're entitled. <geesh>
Nice idea to attract donations by using a coin-operated mechanism to "run" the model loco! Of course a better idea is to have the 1:1 scale available on the track - and for the price of a ticket, off one goes! <wooooooo woooooooo>
I hope we have enough time at Barriger to explore the model trains exhibits - some nice stuff there, as you undoubtedly recall.
I'll be sure to take your optimism along with me and "use it" should anything go contrary to expectations with VIA Rail! <snicker> <snicker> As I mentioned to Rob over the fone today - I don't give a Rat's Patoot about what happens after I board - for I'm STAYING ‘n as long as there's a comfortable bed, food ‘n beverages available - you can find me up in the DOME at times other than for sleep ‘n dining!
"Good eye" in picking up on the ARR car in the CN freight yard!
Appreciate the < I3> Post ‘n ROUND!
Page 19 - Dan <DL-UK> at 1:11 PM: Undoubtedly for the sheer love of riding the rails, it still seems that the UK is where to be. In spite of the costs, I'd gladly "spring" for whatever it takes to enjoy the ambiance of a real dining car along with a meal prepared by a real Chef. Ohhhhhhhh yeah!
I try not to say "never," so perhaps one day . . . Hey! I'm the guy who spent a long weekend in Paris - flew out of New York on a Friday, returned on Monday. That was a long time ago - flew USAF in the days when we called it a "hop." But of course I'm hardly the same guy who did THAT! <groan>
Doing my mental arithmetic, it surely seems that the cost of a PINT is rather HIGH! Here at "Our" Place, all draft brew is a buck - bottles $1.25 ‘n anything in Brit measurements comes in at $1.50. <grin> Our bottles are 12 oz. by the by . . .
Your description of the passenger waiting area at St. Pancreas reminds me a bit of Chicago's Union Station. The long distance trains are set up that way - but I do think guests may accompany the passenger to the waiting area - but of course not beyond. CHANGE brought about as a result of this world we live in.
It goes like this for me: put a Budd dome on the line ‘n I'll do what it takes to book passage! <grin>
Very much enjoyed your < I3> chat, trip report ‘n appreciate the visit ‘n ROUND!
See y'all on Tuesday fer sure, maybe sometime Monday - but . . .
Tom
Tom - just tried to review a few pages back from the time of your quake!
I'll have a pint and here's a round for the house.
Anyway - I was glad to read Pete had been working on you for that Brit trip - you know it makes sense! You'll have to give in to the ideas some day! However, I see the lure of the Budd Dome has attracted you back to Canada so I look forward to reading more about that! Glad to read the safety inspectors have authorised full testing of the Can Am subway.
Nice pics of the Clydesdale Horse - there must have been million of those heavy horses working in rail yards and industry in the UK - no doubt certainly up to the 1930s and in some cases later - the 50s probably - lots of horse worked shunting yards around the place I have read of.
Got my recent edition of Classic Trains a few days ago - whole edition - as people probably now on Pullman - which is great stuff. Then also got NRM review with an interesting piece of information on Pullmans in the UK - Pete - wondered if you knew this? - only constituent company of the LMS which operated Pullman cars was the Caledonian Railway (I did not know this at all) - their contract existed up until 1933ish - when the LMS then took over the old CR Pullman cars and used them as LMS restaurant cars in LMS livery - the magazine had picture of one.
Pete - by the way, I liked that pic of the GWR pannier shuttling about the west midlands! ( few pages back of course). Any plans for a Brit trip yourself by the way?
Eric - the sound of a steam recording going through the Swedish countryside must be pretty evocative! Hope you had a chance to listen to your recording.
Nick - would certainly have been good to have seen one of the Toton based Bayer Garrett locos - I'd never thought of your explanation but of course it is obvious really - infrastructure not up to it. Great pics from Ireland again a few pages back - really enjoyed those railcars! Great Rhyll pics too, but my favourite was the ONR in dark green livery in open countryside - very nice - Watch out for the Jedi Knights on your travels!
Going to attempt to attend the National Railway Museum weeklong exhibition in late may which marks the anniversary of the end of UK steam in 1968.
Mike, CM3, Rob, Fergie - enjoyed your postings - ignorance of subject mater prevents me from commenting - but as I say enjoyed them (and one could not ask for a better selection of Forth Bridge pics so thanks for that Mike).
Allan - hope you break is enjoyable
Quick trip report from my London travels - got a morning express south from Grantham - dining car only had one lady finishing her meal so I easily got a seat on that and enjoyed a full English breakfast - interestingly the new operator national Express seems to have been low key on changes, website and timetables have had a makeover (and in my view the image is not as high class as GNER the old operator promoted) but staff etc are still mostly wearing the old uniforms etc. The carriages have had the legend ‘Route of the Flying Scotsman' removed - which is a shame.
Breakfast was well served and high quality - but at 15 pounds (7 pints) not cheap - but then it never was!
On arrival I had about 40 minutes to look around St Pancras, and I must say that the restoration of the old buildings is simply superb with excellent attention to details - however, much of the new stuff is a bit ‘antiseptic' for my liking - too much like an airport. The actual international trains are screened off from the public areas behind glassed in areas - so you can see but don't touch - their passengers are hemmed in underground in waiting areas until departure time when they board the trains so that means there is no one milling about near the trains - and no one not travelling can get in because the glazed in section is to prevent you doing so.
The shops in the undercroft area (old beer storage area in Victorian days) are pretty dull - mostly the usual clone town chain store stuff - which is a shame. Still - as I say the restored area is superb and that makes it worth while. Worth investigating if you are in London - no doubt about it.
After my dull meeting I had a chance to check out the London Transport Museum which has just re-opened after a multi million pound makeover - it is charged entry so no chance of a quick look round for free - but the shop is always worth checking out - of note (Pete I think you will be interested) - was a boxed set of Railway Roundabout DVDs which is obviously available to purchase (that is if you have not spent your savings in British restaurant cars).
Back to Kings Cross and got an evening train north - again with dining car facilities - I was early on board and there were plenty of seats but it soon filled up so I was lucky (1st class passengers have preference for seats and I had standard class tickets). I had a 2 course meal on the rtn journey - just enough time for it to be cooked and served and eaten before time to get off! Again quality was good - although they hardly had enough stock to serve everyone the full menu choices - which is not so good.
The only real change I noticed was move from a la carte menu pricing - for each item separately - now they charge 25 quid for 2 course, 29 for 3. So again not cheap. Soft drinks are complimentary - alcohol paid for. But it is chef cooked and there is none of that cook chill microwave stuff going on. Obviously the prices are mostly set for people on expense accounts, but there we are. I'm prepared to treat myself because, like the Budd cars - the service won't be there for ever as they persistently attempt to drive down quality and cost and increase profit share I guess!
Sorry not been able to be in so much recently - but all the best to all
Regards
DL
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH. I had to go out unexpectedly yesterday afternoon and was late getting back but I have caught up now.
NICK I will look forward to the ‘slideshow and lecture' on the smaller gauge lines, lines that don't get the attention they deserved I feel.
Glad you enjoyed the photos Talking of Scotsman I had another look and noticed she has the single chimney as built, not the double chimney she has today which means the smoke deflectors to prevent the drifting smoke.
That's a interesting point about the six wheeler not being marked as not a common user wagon as most of the special wagons were. It will be good to see the old photo of Cackler.
Many thanks for the photos, good to see ‘Errol Lonsdale' on the South Devon as well as the Gwili Railways. Those Austerities have been the unsung workhorses of preserved lines.
The Welshpool composite photo came out very well. Looking through some photos I have found a few at Welshpool, I hope to post them later this week.
I don't think I can add much to your descriptions of MIKE's Forth Bridge photos, Great spot with the Hush Hush 4-6-4, I wonder if Allan as seen the loco in the flesh before she was converted to an A4 look-a-like with a normal boiler numbered 60700 in BR days. May I just add that the D49 Hunt/Shire class No246 (BR No 62712) in the photo was named ‘Morayshire' and is the only one of the 75 D49s to be preserved, and coincidently near the banks of the Forth at Bo'ness.
In one of the links showing one of the points at ether end of the bridge reminded me of one of my first trips over the Forth Bridge. I was a Sunday and we were switched wrong line over the bridge as they were working on one of the tracks. We crossed the bridge at about 15 mph and I was able to appreciate the sheer size and construction from an open widow.
I had forgotten about the broad gauge saddle tanks, I have seen an old photo of them and, if I recall right had large driving wheels, I guess with the 7ft ¼ in gauge they could carry a fair amount of water in the saddle tanks.
Next time I travel in Ireland it will be very strange to me to see those DMUs working trains when they were loco hauled last time I was there. That is a great photo with the VIA Rail EMD and ALCO side by side and the various rolling stock, noticed the dome car on the Canadian. I guess it is lost in the mist of time why the Ffestiniog trains used the right hand rails in stations.
ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photos. Yes there is something about the Deltics, they had a big railfan following in their last days on BR. It would be good to get Allan's thoughts on them as he was on the East Coast Main line where they worked and they must have to be good diesels to have taken over from the Gresley Pacifics that worked the line. I can still recall, even though I was very young, seeing the prototype Deltic in its distinctive blue livery with no number just the word Deltic in the center of the locomotive, when it was fairly new at Rugby.
I know it is far easier getting in to the pit than getting out.
It is great that Bayview Junction still sees a good variety of trains and had good places to photograph them is a bonus, sounds a great place.
ERIC Very glad the visit to the Doctor went well.
95 sounds pretty hot to me.
It sounds the Ericsson's were talented brothers I see Nils spelt his name with only one ‘s' yet John had two, did he change his name.
It seems strange to think now that the first generation of diesel and electric locomotives as well as units did not have the yellow warning panel at first. They came in from the mid 1960s.
I eventually found the size of the Midland class 115 Spinner 4-2-2s of which No 673 is one they are 7 feet 9 inches. I read they were capable of traveling in the 90s MPH, but I guess they would be hard to first get the train on the move although the trains then were very lightweight
Many thanks for the photos and the info on the RTLs
FERGIE Our village church back in England used to have an Open Garden weekend, which we joined in with, luckily my part was just mowing the lawn.
If it is not a cheeky question what year did you go over the Forth Bridge.
CM3 New Haven must have been a great place to observe trains when the GG1s were about. I wonder if they would consider having electric hauled freights on that section with the big hike in diesel prices.
TOM Yes that was probably the most annoying thing about our trip on the Chaleur when we were told LATER that using the bus was the usual method of getting the train back on time. I feel sure the bus won't be needed this time though.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. There was an electric locomotive named the Royal Scot as well. The steam locomotive Royal Scot should be back in working order this year after an overhaul. It looks different to when the original Royal Scot toured North America ,as the loco was re-built by Stanier with a taper boiler.
Enjoyed the Classic Ads from the Six Pack Special # 4, eye-catching posters from when the railroads competed with themselves rather than the airlines or interstates for passengers.
It really is great that what those Railroad Magazine covers promise of what is inside the magazine can be read at the Barriger Library. The old locomotive being re-stocked with wood is still a favorite of mine.
Many thanks for the Classic Drumheads. The Wabash Cannonball sure gives a good impression of speed, but I still really like the Santa Fe Chief.
Great photos of the Can-Am featuring the RDCs and the CN freight, I noticed the Alaska car behind # 5543, and all seem quiet at the Second Class Saloon when the photo was taken.
The model photo is at Bristol Temple Meads station.It is of the GWR No 6000 'King George V. When a coin is deposited in the slot the wheels turn.
May I wish Rob and youself a great time on your Canada Travels..
Well Ruth a round please while I load up some photos for while TOM is away.
Pete.
Good afternoon Ruth ( is where I am anyway )I think since it's lunch time I'll have the nice cornbeef on rye with at least three of the exrta large pickles,and a nice big guiness to drown it in.
Tom-Wonderfull shots of the CanAm as always,can you tell that you like RDC's or what Yes I'm a cool to mildly warm temp kinda guy,and neither of us have green thumbs
Nice to see that the airpoirt bus <barf> is still resonably priced,best that the girls in Nick's life take that route.Not sure I'd like squirrel suffle or the woodchuck wellington,however I hear that Nicks beaver brochetes are to die for ,with mouse minestrone as a starter !
Yup see you at Union, I'm sure that we can't get into too much trouble
Eric-Yup you can have your heat sir the month of the high humidity 90's we get here is more than enough for me , don't get me wrong I don't like the butt deep snow -20C's in the winter anymore than the heat either. Give me a place with a mean temp of 75 and I'm a happy man.
Thanks for the extra info on that loco and with pics as well
Shane-It's been along time since I was in beantown , but I don't remeber seeing any sleeper cars at the station then ( mid 80's )Lots and lots of the typical commuter stuff and the like however. Just seems strange to me that there would be no sleeper service out of there. Oh well amybe when the high speed rail gets approved in the year 2100
Back later
Nice to see CM3 Shane begin the day for us - seems "normal" when he's around!
Now Arriving on Track #3
Select Scenes from the Can-Am Railway
Number Three
(1) CN freight backing to freight yard - BC Rail RDCs passing majestic Mt. Mentor!
(2) Southbound BC Rail RDCs at Can-Am Gorge!
(3) Southbound BC Rail RDCs at Land Between the Lakes!
(4) VIA Rail in passing siding - CN freight yards!
(5) Aerial view of Mountain Village - looking east!
(6) Aerial view of Mountain Village - looking southwest!
Enjoy!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Full City Roast will be fine), let's take a look in the pie case - a slice of mince with some Cabot Creamery Seriously Sharp Cheddar. Heavy frost here this morning and temps below freezing. Gas is at $3.75.
Rob - There are all kinds of trains running in and out of Boston. Amtrak serves both North and South Stations, but South Station has the bigger amount of traffic. Acela, regionals, and 448/449 which connects at Albany. There's also lots of commuter operations as you mentioned. Problem is no sleeper service as I said. Thanks for your economic report from Ontario.
Nick - squirrel - mmmmm, good! Nice picture of Sudbury and also of the ONR running as it should be.
Eric - I rode the RTL between Albany and Buffalo more than afew years ago now. I liked the big windows and, IMHO, it rode a lot better than the UA version - smoother and much quieter. Nice shot of New Haven with all sorts of other equipment lurking around. I used to like to go down there and spend the day back when you could move around and get pictures. GG1s, Metroliners (yes, Boris, a few Metroliners did run as far as New Haven). Mu cars, diesels, freights, etc. etc. Good place to visit.
OSP - Safe travels. I'll take a seat on the Cannon Ball, please. ATK plans - for further discussion look up national energy policy - I'll leave it at that,
Work safe
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Wednesday's Witticism
It's easy to fill the shoes of a big-headed man.
Coffee ‘n pastries are waitin' . . . <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts only needed to be ordered! Happy "hump day" - Wednesday it is!
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I'm hoping our regulars will try to pick up the slack during my absence. Rob has said he'll provide a Post or two on Thursday morning - we know CM3 Shane will try to be "in" - so the afternoon needs a bit of "charging." How ‘bout it Eric - can you come out ‘n play in daylite while I'm gone <grin>
I'll be back at the bar fer sure on Tuesday next . . . Maybe we can convince "one finger Pete" to drop something off in the mornings, without sacrificing his "traditional" PM "slot" . . . Thanx to all - n advance!
Remember: We're NOT trying to simply data-dump - go with fotos ‘n supportive narrative ‘n you can't go wrong!
Tuesday - April 29th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 19 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 10:15 AM <12:15 PM ADT>: Our first daylite customer - now that's unusual!
I'm not "into" gardens per se - I've done my share of tilling - weeding ‘n the like, but I prefer grocery stores! My 1st Mate has the "green thumb," so perhaps she'd appreciate your "showcase" moreso than I. Nice story, though ‘n I'm sure your Dad would be proud!
Always enjoy our telephonic chats - glad I caught you at home!
Visit, chat ‘n ROUND appreciated! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Page 19 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 2:22 PM: First off let me THANK YOU for the "heads up" Email regarding your late arrival - knowing when our regulars are going to be away or delayed really helps me plan my day at the bar.
You're gonna luv the Barriger RR Library - there's a complete collection of those Railroad Magazines to wile away the time! Problem is scheduling - now that we've dedicated a day for the Beagle - it's going to be a tight fit to get a couple of hours "in" at the LI-BERRY - since this year they've decided to shut ‘er down on weekends. <barf> Not to worry - we'll get there!
Woodchuck Wellington Well, why not Squirrel Soufflé <ugh>
It still boggles my feeble mind to accept the reality that Amtrak does not provide sleeper service to or from BahStun - just doesn't seem "right."
There was an interesting piece on Amtrak on the evening <NBC> news> and how the Acela is the money maker, but not enough of ‘em throughout the land. Then they went into the "plans" for hi-speed rail, etc. ad nauseum. Thing is - the "plans" must've been taken out of a file cabinet, for they are at least 20 years old! I recall attending a meeting or three way back when about everything "new" on the news last night! <barf>
If the Congress can't <and won't> get its collective act together for a national transportation plan <featuring alternatives to the automobile ‘n airplane> we'll muddle along with rail infrastructure designed well before WWII for the most part. <triple barf>
Page 19 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 3:38 PM: Wondered where our vacationing Manager was ‘n then figured you were taking life easy away from the "plant." Speaking of another variety - got a kick out of your gardening comments. Pretty much thinking along lines of my own on that score!
Sounds like you're experiencing the kind of temps that I enjoy - upper 50s is just fine with me. Probably the best place I've ever experienced for my version of "ideal" temps was San Diego. If only there was a way to get that where I live. <aaaaaaaahhhhhhh>
I'm ready to "go" . . . are you ready to "buy" <grin>
Appreciate the support here ‘n over on "my other Thread" too!
Page 19 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:20 PM ‘n 8 PM <1:20 AM ‘n 2 AM Wednesday GMT>: So you're going to be a "bachelor" for a bit, eh No need to reveal the details here in the Ether - but my guess is you'll find all kinds of things to occupy yourself! <uh oh>
Eavesdropping on #6 - charge it!
Why am I in mid-continent Long story - better suited for Email as there's personal stuff I'd rather not get into here in the Ether. But without getting into specifics, it's rather simple - I took myself out of the loop for ships in order to provide my 3 kids with a "guarantee" that they'd all start ‘n complete high school in one place. I had over 20 "in," so cudda pulled the plug <retired> but the outfit was good to me.
An assignment opened up in this area ‘n the rest is history. . So, I was able to keep the homestead in one place, while I gallavanted in ‘n out of the country ‘til retirement in mid-1988.
They all finished college here ‘n the living is quite nice, comparatively speaking. Just isn't my cuppa, if you follow my drift. The things we do for others, eh
Your petrol joke brought back memories of our Groan-O-Meter ‘n daze of barndad Doug. <ugh> Don't give up your day job, Mate! <grin>
Eagerly awaiting the appearance of Nick's Corner Pub here at "Our" Place . . . let ‘er rip, Mate!
We're huge fans of G&S in this abode . . . got "hooked" on ‘em up in Halifax some years back when introduced to The Mikado. Then each year on our annual trek to visit family ‘n friends, we'd take in another presentation by the local G&S Society. Wonderful times, met some fine people ‘n the rest is history. You are soooooo correct in your appraisal of job satisfaction. Can't beat that with a stick, eh
Also concur regarding personal fotos here at the bar - brings out the best in ‘em, fer sure, fer sure!
Your foto spate is a treat! And you are sooooooo right about that Sudbury shot. A modeler's paradise, fer sure, fer sure. All kinds of good stuff to ooooh ‘n ahhhhh over!
As always, many thanx for the continuing support ‘n resurgence of interest in what goes on ‘round this joint! ROUND too!!
Page 19 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:15 PM: A late nite appearance from our Manager along with a run down on costs in the Toronto area. Cab ride in from Pearson definitely would gag a healthy maggot . . . recommend taking the airport bus at a one-way cost of $18.50 <Cdn> - here's the link for Nick!
http://www.torontoairportexpress.com/
Glad you enjoyed the day's efforts - figured I'd be a bit on the sparse side coming up.
See ya at Union Station!
Wednesday, April 30th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 19 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:48 AM: Many thanx for the expanded info on the RTL. You should put all of your experiences together 'n write a book - something like "The View from the Cab" - why not
Of course we stock Tuborg - ALL the major brands, world-wide; just no micro-brews. <grin>
As mentioned earlier on, when we get to the Barriger RR Library, you'll have the opportunity to check out all of those fine Railroad Magazines! They are fascinating, fer sure, fer sure!
Nice shot of the TurboLiner!
Many thanx for the visit, chat 'n inclusive Post!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, just Tuborg, Golden, for me tonight.
We almost made it to the 100 degree mark today, but not quite.
Tom – Wow, you have spent a lot of time at the bar today! I was involved with the RTL’s only to some extent. Amtrak used RTL #154 and 158 to push and pull the X2000 on non-electrified lines during the tour in the Northeast. But they were not very reliable so when we left for the southeast and later the rest of the country we had two F40’s pulling and pushing the X2000 instead. I am glad you are okay with us having these 90 degree days, we had 99˚ today. Very nice ads from the streamline era! I must say I like colors and livery of the Kansas City Southern Lines! More Railroad Magazine covers! Just wish I had them available so I could read them. Nice drumheads! I would say the Santa Fe The Chief is my favorite with Union Pacific coming in second!Fergie – Hope you will show some photos of your garden! A Classic Train buffs Garden!CM3 – Thanks for the round! Rob – Hmmm, I guess you don’t like it hot. I don’t mind the heat though. RTL (Rohr Turbine Liner) has a gas-electric turbine to produce the electric power. They used to look something like this:
The white one between the F40 and the X2000. New Haven, CT.
Nick – Tuborg with the Gold label, please! I’ve never seen them at this bar before, where do you keep them? As far as I know there were never any saddle tank locomotives in Sweden. At the same time I have a feeling I have seen a picture of one, but a quick check didn’t show any. Thanks for the info!!Very nice photos! From real trains to models! I like that photo of train #47! Ontario Northland. With that green color it is part of the landscape!
Eric
Good evening Leon, I see things have stayed somewhat lively around here,whats not to like when Nick's been in eh Just a guiness for me tonight thanks.
Nick-Great photo's sir and yoru right. What's not to like about either of those gems.
Lets see to give you some answers for your queries.
Tom-Some nice drumheads to wind the day out with, as always some great stuff from teh good
I tell you guys-we are gonna have to move the library from the cellar-there is something very unpleasant living by the `S` shelf-it ate my torch-and I havn`t smelled anything like that since I last played rugby.........Anyway,despite that ,I managed to rescue a few images......
Here is a latest generation Mallow-Tralee service climbing out of Killarney on a beautiful June afternoon
Here the bay makes a perfect backdrop as a train glides into Bandon station on the Clonakilty model village line
This is one of the images that got me hooked-The Canadian arrives at Sudbury-just LOOK at all that modelling detail........
And here is the other one-train #47 eating up the countryside-whats not to like here ???
Back with the double Fairlies here-our train marshalling coaches at Portmadoc-(almost the same view as PETE`s shot of Palmerston from last week ) and then departing from Tan-Y-Bwlch a short while later-
O.K-thats me for the long and winding road,see you soon-have a good day tomorrow
Well good evening to one and all,nice to see the till is ringing merrily -no mean feat in these troubled times-Leon,I will try a draught Carling tonight please with a chicken & bacon club sandwich and a bowl of garlic marinated mixed olives to keep out the cold....
I see gas prices are on the conversation again today-the highest I have heard of over here is a cool $13 a gallon with the general level being in the $10-$11 range,although with one of our major refineries on strike and the North sea pipeline shut down for up to a month the sky is the limit........
A joke that did the rounds last time we had a fuel strike :- Q-whats the difference between paraffin & petrol ? A-theres 2 `F`s in paraffin and no effin petrol.......please groan quietly to avoid waking customers,thank you.........
So-whats been happening this fine day......
MIKE-Thanks for the additional info on the St Albans spread-good to have the personal touch-brings it all to life A mighty fine spread on my favourite bridge (which I have crossed many times-although it was never the same river.........)
I will beat PETE to the draw and make a wild stab at the trains (which I am sure he will correct me on in due course)-1st loco has the look of the North British works about it-I will take a stab at a Perth or Stirling /Edinburgh working the 2nd is the famous 4-6-4 "Hush-hush" -I will guess at an Aberdeen express here the 3rd is almost certainly (dangerous words ) a D49 Hunt/Shire and could be either a Dundee local or a Fife coast working-as these locos worked the Fife coast services I am leaning that way.......All the above is completely speculative but hopefully plausible-either way,nice drop-thanks mate
ROB-Welcome back-glad you enjoyed the break,shame you couldn`t get any pix but hey-one snowdrift looks much like another
Questions-As I mentioned previously,the girls are off to TO in a few weeks & Missisnick was wondering about how much walking round cash she might need-so to take a random selection,how much would one expect to pay for 1-a beer,2-a Mickey D`s (or equivalent),3-a loaf of bread,4-a quart of milk,5-a movie ticket,6- an Overland brass FP7 in original O.N.R livery,7-a round of 4 coffees & subs.......Also-a cab from Pearson to Yonge/Eglinton,depending on what time they arrive
Just general stuff really-any help welcome thanks.
ERIC-Of COURSE we have Tuborg-would Sir prefer the green or gold label ?-one of the pubs I (mis)spent my youth in stocked both-in bottles & draught-many a happy evening was spent sucking it down-far superior to Carlsberg imho.....
As to the W.D loco-that pic was as close to it as I got-it looked to be similar to the `Errol Lonsdale` which was a W.D (war Dept) loco-I believe they were bought up by the L.N.E.R who classified them as J94`s (PETE.......) and got much useful service from them-also went into industrial/colliery service.
Saddle tanks-yes they were popular over here,mostly as shunting engines-I suspect the low speeds compensated for the loss of stability inherent in the raised centre of gravity(as opposed to side tanks)..perhaps the thinking was that the heat radiating from the boiler barrel would pre-heat the water in the tank.......The only main line examples I can call to mind were on Brunel`s 7 foot broad gauge where stability was never an issue-hope this helps--was the design used on Swedish railways at all ?
TOM-It has often occured to me to ask,but never quite had the nerve-Just why is it that an old sea dog like yourself lives about as far as it is possible to get from the briny ??-please feel free to tell me to mind my own-just curious is all........
Now -groundhog crepes-should have mentioned,they are gaining popularity WITH THE TRACK GANG-and we all know what their eating habits are like -the Maple leaf crew are indeed big fellas-they treat morbid obesity as a challenge rather than a hazard-but not to worry-we can outrun them any day -Darts-as chance would have it,one of the models currently on top of the piano,awaiting repairs ,is a pub I `converted` from a backscene carefully cut and folded into 3-d which includes a bunch of guys playing darts by the front window-will put up some pics of it when time allows-it has a certain naive charm............. G&S-gentlemen anarchists-some of the finest satirists of their day-and feted & applauded by those they were lampooning-now thats what I call job satisfaction
Strange how pix that appear quite flat and uninteresting in the hand leap into life when put on a `puter screen-have enjoyed my own collection all the more for seeing it thus...how about you ?
Todays 6-packs-1st one- faves are-jt 1st K.C.S/G.N,2nd-Zephyr 2nd one-John Bull (n.b-random thought-I wonder,does the term pilot originate in the nautical context-the guy that guides the ship into port as the pilot guides the engine into curves ....??) 3rd set-As a country bass player and avowed fan of all things Canadian it has to be the noodle & the Cannonball (she`s a long & she`s tall........)
CM3-And I was hoping to save the Wellington for a special occaision -As it happens,the singer in the country band was out stateside a year or two ago and visiting with some muso`s in Kentucky,the host cooked them a fried breakfast and afterwards Tony`s small daughter asked what the chunks of meat were-when the host replied,in all seriousness " squirell" (sp?) she went completely ballistic and hasn`t eaten meat since...........Round here,baby rabbits are referred to as "breakfast bunnies"-just right with bacon & eggs & field mushrooms -just watch out for the lead shot-a real tooth cracker
Right,gonna post this and go search the photo vaults-Boris -a torch please-Leon a,a bottle to keep me company-and set the boys up as well please....
O.K-Later,if not sooner
Afternoon visits from CM3 Shane - and - our Manager, Rob!
Figured I'd drop this one off while I'm here . . .
Now Arriving on Track #2
Classic Drumheads by the Dozen - #3
<Initially Posted on Page 166 at "Our" Place II on 09 Jan 2008>
(1) Southern - Crescent Ltd
(2) SP - Cascade
(3) SP&S
(4) UP
(5) Wabash Cannon Ball
(6) WP - California Zephyr
(7) ATSF - The Chief
(8) B&O - The Ambassador
(9) B&M/CP - Alouette
(10) Burlington Route (CB&Q) - Denver Zephyr
(11) CP - The Dominion
(12) CN
Good afternoon Ruth , figured I would pop in for a howdy hi there before you head home. Just a Keith's and a pistrami on rye if you would be so kind. There's some extra froa round and keep the change for your travel fund.
Tom-No problem sir I will pop in thursday morning with a post or two not to worry.Thanks for the clear up on the Enterprise,I was indeed under the impression that it was supposed to be a realitivly fast run with no stops other than it's principles Toronto and Montreal.Anytime I saw it at Union station it was Budd equipped, I can only imagine what the business community thought of those community servcie cars in the renasance once they were put on Nice today solid high 50's kind of day with sun, better than the north country to be sure.
Enjoyed teh classic covers and the train ads from this morning,top notch stuff as per usual sir
Eric-I don't care 2% humidity or not consatnt 90's are way to much for this boy give me 75-80 with moderate humidity and I'm a happy camper
Great ineternal shot from that Amtrak unit thanks. Electric or diesel
Shane-Hard to believe that Boston has no sleeper cars going to or from anymore does not seem right such a major terminal without proper trains.At least they still funnel a lot of commutor traffic in and out.
Fergie-Don't blame you for turing us down, neither of us are garden people, heck it's all I can do to keep the grass alive.I cut it just to make it look like I'm doing something <uh oh >Good luck on the garden tour hop you guys bring home the blue ribbon I see that our Blue birds aer in the basement at the moment,long season,if they keep at teh way tehy are it will be a really loooong season.
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. It has been snowing on and off since early this a.m. I really like having to clean off the car at the end of April. Gas went up another dime yesterday so we are now at $3.75.
Let's look at the stack of stuff.
Rob was in with comments
Eric was also by with comments
Fergie - Garden tour? I had to mow the other day because it was either cut the grass or equip the K9 with GPS. Anyway, best of luck.
Nick - Groundhog crepes? How about Woodchuck Wellington? It certainly sounds a little more upscale. No Boris, he was not the bass player for McKinney's Cottonpickers. Ah yes, the temperance poster. One of the family ancestors (paternal side) was in the WCTU. Also the WCTU still has a booth at the Erie County Fair in NY, (IIRC). Unfortunately the trainshed at St. Albans is gone. However, the rest of the building, including the CV boardroom upstairs, is in pretty good shape.
Mike was by with more pictures. WSC snuck out of town on his way to Quebec.
OSP was by with a lot of material. I'll take a framed version of the Golden State poster. The Enterprise resembled some of the sloooow Boston-NY overnight trains on the New Haven. 66 and 67, favorite Amtrak runs of mine when they had a sleeper both ran on an extended schedule - it was a civilized way to do things. Can't get a sleeper out of Boston to anywhere now.
Thanks for running the quote from Field of Dreams about Tyrus. He was truly a piece of work. And yes, he did, by all accounts file his spikes.
RR Magazine covers are always fun to examine. Nice one of a generic version of the Rathole, and the PAs are always nice to see.
work safe
Fergie dropped by to brighten up the morning - seems Ruth is happier today!
Another from the hopper . . .
Now Arriving on Track #1
A Nickel's Worth of Classic Covers!
<Initially Posted on Page 135 at "Our" Place II on 01 Nov 2007>
Caveat: Use of the images presented is made under the provisions of Public Domain. There is no intent to profit or otherwise benefit from the display of these images except for personal pleasure.
(1) RR Magazine - 1943 - Rails Across the Blue Ridge
(2) RR Magazine - 1954 - Adventurous Railroading
(3) RR Magazine - 1942 - A B&O Wood-Burner
(4) RR Magazine - 1952 - Through the Snow
(5) RR Magazine - 1952 - The Limited
Good Morning Captain Tom and Crew
JUst top up the cup my man as I'm in a mad hurry today, busy busy busy. Oh and top everyone elses Pleas and thanks.
trolleyboy wrote:Fergie-Sounds like you had a productive week (s) of gardening. Once you're safely back want to come help us Rob
Fergie-Sounds like you had a productive week (s) of gardening. Once you're safely back want to come help us
No...
Sorry won't have the time. What I'm doing at present is gearing up for a Garden Tour on the 13th of July, Yes most of you will say but that's over 2 months away so relax! No can do!!
Dad had stated on several occassions last year that we should put "My Garden" (Now officially known as "Dads Garden") into the Garden tours. To which I would roll my eyes and say " Well Dad I really don't think it's up to snuff for that...". Well as fate would have it and a couple of weeks before Dad's passing I took pictures of the Garden into the hospital to cheer the Old Guy up. Well sure enough one of the Lab Techs, who by the way normally doesn't do bedside calls came in one day, saw the pics and said "Would you like to put your garden on display?" And Dad said "Well it's not my garden but talk to my son". As it turned out the lady in question runs a yearly garden show for the Colitus/Iliatus foundation and was quite taken by "our" accomplishment and as it is said... And the Rest is history.
So Rob... No means No, buddy but not that I don't want to help you I just can't afford the time. I still have to dig up the Veggie Garden and finish spreading the mulch. I had to dig up a Dead Japenes Maple yesterday... Oh I'm not happy! and to get it out of the ground required the use of a Ratchet pully, Towing lug and gas pedal.
Coalminer: Yes a CV 2-10-4 would definately be worht having!
Tom: Thanks for the call he other night, it was very well appreciated (Though the Jays lost yet another one but Lisa will get over it!) We'll talk again!
And as for the pics of the Firth of Forth... Ya I've been across that bridge, Though I was 10 at the time, so I really can't remeber it all that well except both parents boasting of "Scottish Inginuity".
Later All
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Six Pack Special Number Four
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
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Rock Island Line
Kansas City Southern
Missouri Pacific
Southern Pacific
Great Northern
Advance Zephyrs
Tuesday ‘n time to recognize that this IS another work week <for many>! Best way to jump start the day is with us - freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case along with our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts listed on our Menu Board!
Monday - April 28th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 18 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 12:03 PM: Thanx for the Email exchange - of course a response was sent!
A bit of frost on the rooftops - is this really spring Juneau is happy - so all's right with the world! <grin> Actually not so - petrol holding at $3.60 <rounded> up at "Collusion Corner."
WWII vets - an endangered species, fer sure, fer sure. Next up, my generation. Has time really passed that quickly
I have a box of ticket stubs - from all sorts of venues. And a couple of shoe boxes full of airplane boarding passes WITH tix receipts in the ticket envelopes. Still have every train ticket and boarding envelope since 1990 . . . prior to that, nope.
From: Field of Dreams . . .
Ty Cobb wanted to play.We couldn't stand the S-O-B when we were alive . . .so we told him to stick it.
We couldn't stand the S-O-B
when we were alive . . .
so we told him to stick it.
Is that the one <grin>
Then this is reference to "Shoeless Joe" Ty Cobb called himthe greatest left fielder of all timeHe said his glove was the place where triples go to die.
Ty Cobb called himthe greatest left fielder of all timeHe said his glove was the place where triples go to die.
Ty Cobb called him
the greatest left fielder of all time
He said his glove was the place
where triples go to die.
Posters are reasonable - but frames really COST! <uh oh>
As always, visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND very much appreciated! <KaChing>
Page 18 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:44 PM: While I don't have the confidence in this year's Chaleur trip being a total success, it surely can't be as disappointing as 2007. Or could it I'll know rather soon . . .
If I'm able to stay aboard for the entire trip - and the dome is fit for human occupancy with glass clean enough to enjoy the surrounding land and sea scapes - that will do for me.
Why wouldn't that bus company have a "named bus" for us Was there any doubt that they "did it before"
Three diverse, interesting ‘n nicely done fotos!
I've never seen a Royal Scot with anything other than a steam loco providing the power. Looks good!
Cobb is a well done flick - problem is that anyone who is so PC will wind up being upset by it. Revisionists need not view it . . . I liked it!
Visit, < I3> Post ‘n ROUND always appreciated!
Page 18 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:17 PM <1:17 AM Tuesday GMT>: Our Resident Londoner in Wales - Mighty Man! has come through once again with another fine offering! Lots to read ‘n look at . . . something for all. Guess that's why we refer to Posts like yours as Inclusive, Interesting ‘n Informative - < I3>!
If that was Ruth you saw behind the bar, I think you need a new prescription, Mate! That was Leon!! <grin> She left at 5 PM . . . <ooooooooh>
Now the business of "taking care of business" <always liked those lyrics . . .> the operative word is "ZIP"! <uh oh> Anyway, trolling nite isn't ‘til Friday . . .
Seems that mistake with the DoNut ‘n Road Kill-Sausage MoSheens has gained "favor" with the sick-O crowd. Groundhog crepes with maple syrup indeed! <grin>
B&O you say Shudda known that one - but for some reason, couldn't make it out. <groan> Thanx!
I recall having some out of scale accessories on my earlier attempts at HO layouts. If the kids thought they "fit" - they FIT! No problem for me - it' s supposed to be for FUN, afterall! However, if those guys who inhabit that roadside joint need vehicles that large . . . perhaps we should rethink any "challenge" rendered in their direction. <yikes>
Travel bug Always - never goes away. I've been on the move for so much of my adult life that at times it drives me stark raving mad to think I'm so far from the salt air ‘n things that I really like. Snow capped mountains - lakes of dark blue water - passenger trains with DOMES - yeah, I've got that in my blood.
Truly is a matter of space with the Can-Am layout - there ain't any more! Zero - zilch - zip! Once my subway system is finished - I'm going to look into a "sky hook" for the next "addition." So, any commemorative runs and the like will simply have to begin - piece by piece - from the display cases to the layout. Then off they go . . . <grin>
I sometimes have to rerun the lyrics of an exchange in The Mikado <G&S> where there's titles galore . . .
Poo-Bah. It is consequently my degrading duty to serve this upstart as First Lord of the Treasury, Lord Chief Justice, Commander-in-Chief, Lord High Admiral, Master of the Buckhounds, Grom of the Back Stairs, Archbishop of T-i-t-i-p-u, and Lord Mayor, both acting and elect, all rolled into one. And at a salary! A Pooh-Bah paid for his services! I a salaried minion! But I do it! It revolts me, but I do it!
When we made our "forced march" from the train to the bus - I seriously doubt that anyone gave a Rat's Patoot regarding those in need of assistance. An experience I'd rather not dwell upon . . . but glutton for punishment that I've become, Part Deux is coming up at week's end. Can only be better . . .
Johnny Cash- a ONE of a KIND!
Like the colors in your foto spate - brilliant in fact. Isn't this tech-age marvelous And I was recently thinking about my first "box" camera - black ‘n white - 12 shots to a roll - all faded to different hues over time. Yeah, those were the daze, eh
Boris indeed in a Moo-Moo! <yikes>
Certainly appreciate having you with us ‘n the ROUND keeps the registers <KaChing-ing>
Page 18 - Mike <wanswheel> at 8:23 PM: "In" with some classic RR bridge fotos - URLs with a Brit-flair 'n a ROUND!
Page 19 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:15 PM: Our Manager made it "in" with an < I3> Post of his own. Pretty good day, after a rather blah beginning . . . Also see that you turned the Page to 19 . . .
Had heard about the snow in northern Ontario - LUCKY you! <grin> But, I really mean that! <ooooooooh>
I think someone has fed you misinfo regarding the Enterprise between Toronto 'n Montréal. That baby was hardly fast - she took from near mid-nite 'til 8 AM to make what easily is a 5-hour run in either direction. The idea was to provide a hotel on wheels for businesspeople having to be "there" for early morning business. Expensive for the pleasure traveler - but those with expense accounts, cheaper than downtown hotels PLUS air transportation to either city.
Bar was open well into the wee hours. Relaxing wake up, etc. Used the Budd equipment - but I understand the Renaissance cars pretty much put the nail in the coffin - weren't accepted, plus the "community" area couldn't match up with the lounges of the Budd cars.
She bit the dust because of Ottawa budget cuts as first reason - went out without a whimper, as the business community apparently didn't care - OR make sufficient imapct on those pulling the strings. Take your pick. That's my story - 'n I'm sticking to it.
Let's hope we don't encounter any wayward freights on the "dedicated" corridor tracks! <yikes>
Good to see ya 'n it's just a matter of days <daze>, eh YOU will have to carry the ball on Thursday morning - leastways make a Post before you head out. That would be a great assist 'round here . . . especially as slow as things have been before noon-ish. Thanx in advance!
Page 19 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:55 AM: Cab shot from a Turboliner! Now that's something else. Didn't know you were involved with that train too. You must tell us MORE . . . a link for those unfamiliar with RTL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboliner
Saw you peeking in during yesterday AM <daylite> 'n hoped we'd see you. Ruth was very lonely . . . .
Good news regarding your heart! - You didn't make incorrect reference to MetroLink <as stated!> - Petrol out your way is significantly lower than here - you can HAVE those 90 degree days! <ugh>
Thanx for the <I3 > Post 'n chat!
Leon, a Sugar Cured Ham Sandwich is exactly what I need! A Carlsberg, or do you have Tuborg? Cold!
Monday. Went to see my heart doctor. He was satisfied and so was I. Gas prices are going up a few cents almost every day. Paid $3.34 (rounded) today.
Tom – Yesterday we turned the air conditioning on! We had 95˚ today and it will warm up a little bit tomorrow. And, as a matter of fact, we tied the record for dry air (heat) in Phoenix! Only 2% humidity! You have to admit that is on the dry side. MetroLink it is! If I wrote something else I was probably confused for whatever reason. Walk the Line! One of my Johnny Cash favorite songs! So the movie must be good too! Cobb!? I guess I missed that movie. But I’ll take them both and the Stooges at the same time! Good choices!A nice collection of railroad ads! Grand Canyon with Santa Fe! That is a good one. Deutschland Euer Reiseziel! That looks like something from the 1930’s.CM3 – I had the pleasure to ride that Brill car a couple of years ago. It is now powered by a 267hp Chevy V8, but still... It was different. I hope I will get a chance sometime in the future to ride a RDC. John Ericsson is/was fascinating. He had a brother, Nils Ericson, who was primarily occupied with the design and construction of the Swedish state owned railway system.Pete – I just mentioned to CM3 that John Ericsson had a brother, Nils Ericson, who built a good portion of the Swedish State Railways’ lines. Thanks for the info on the Deltics! So they are all retired now. I think that is a good thing to have the front of the locomotives painted yellow to make them more visible. What diameter do the drivers on the “Spinner” have? Nick – I didn’t know about the Rhyl line, but knew about the Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch on the south coast! Thanks for the info!! Nice photos of colorful locomotives! There is one locomotive in the background, marked W. D. 132. Is that a War Department locomotive? It seems like saddle tank locomotives were very common in UK. Is there any particular reason for that? Mike – Interesting, I didn’t know your grandfather was an engineer! I recognize that British bridge, but at this moment I just can’t recall its name. It is an amazing construction though! So huge and there are just two tracks! Rob – 2˚ C, that is kind of cold. No wonder if it snowed, almost freezing. I’ll try to remember that you like the interior control space shots. See below. You are right about the VIA FP and FPA locos! It is always nice to see some well kept locomotives!
For Rob, Amtrak's RTL 158.
Good evening Leon , just a Keith's to get me thawed out. Heather and I have just got back in from our most of two day trip to the north country, Sat and Sunday it was wonderfull sunny and 75 today we woke up to snow falling and 2C in Huntsville cleared upto rain the rest of the day.Was good to see that teh CN sattion in Huntsville has been completely refurbed new roof part of it rented out to the music school and the main opart is a passenger station again. Both the North and Southbound Northlander stop their and the Canadian runs by it .
Tom-Great three pack of photo's on Saturday, I enjoyed them all,espeacialy the shots of the Chaleur,would have loved to have been able to acconpany you, but the trip to Montreal should be good for people watching and story telling
The TTC's back on the job they were legislatated back on Sunday by an emergency Prov. Gov. sitting.We'll see where it goes from there. From what I gather it was the maintenance guys that killed the ratification vote and caused the strike soo we'll se what happens.
Couple good movie pics for this week as well I'm glad you liied the Brantford VIA shots,the way the plateforms are youc an get a lot of neat angles
There is a lot more freight traffic on the corridor now between Toronto and Windsor mostly though the Montreal end of the run is less impacted.The one reason the Enterprise got cancelled was it interfeared with the CN freight scheduale ( they try to run the bulk of the frieghts after the last corridor train has left Toronto.)Having that hot fast time overnight sleeper to Montreal caused difficulties,that and people just didn't buy into it.
Pete-Couple days worth of good photo's from you as well thank-you.I aprticularly loved the Deltic shots,just something about that locomotive,I'm not sure what it is but it's something.
You are right what happens , in the pit should stay there ( accept for what remains attached once you come out )
Bayview still is a great photo snapping spot,you still get a good mix of CN and CP freights there as well as VIA trains and GO transit runs.Lots of public area's to shoot from as well.
Shane -Glad you enjoyed the VIA pics thanks
Nick-Great shots sir , what a neat live steam set up. I would be interested to know if it's still alive and kicking as well. I was thinking of you this weekend as we were poking around the North Country. I had wanted to get some shots of the restored Gravenhurst and Huntsville stations but the weather was too iffy,later this summer though as we will make at least one more trek up there.Not sure what questions you have, but fire away or just email them to me.
Eric-Hey good to hear that the interurban's on the restoration list.Liked the last batch of shots as well. I always like the interior control space shots,nice to compare them to the stuff at the museum. Great shot of the BW steeple cab as well VIA did take a lot of pride in the maintenance of their locomotives those FP and FPA loco's were both close to 30 years old in those shots but mechanically and cosmetically they did look like they came right of the showroom floor.
Mike-Nice bridge shots , I'm sure that Pete , Dan ,n Nick will; have some comments.
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Eric, Fergie, Rob, Pete, CM3, Nick, Tom? Thanks for enjoying the St. Albans pics. Winston Churchill was in that train shed enroute to Quebec with my grandfather at the throttle. The aerial view shows Lake Champlain and the cemetery where my father is buried.
Hard to top Hell Gate but there is one bridge that might
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Well good evening gentlemen all,I trust the longest day of the week has dealt kindly with us all ??......
Ruth my dear-How lovely to see you,step closer that I might bask in your youth & beauty--Well !!-there is no call for that kind of language-ah I see,yes I should have adjusted my dress before leaving the washroom-apologies dear lady
Right then,since PETE is in the chair,I will most certainly join him in a pint (my corner next mate )-a Starop from the back of the fridge and one of the pilsner glasses from the bottom shelf please-ahhhhh-truly a room with a view ....enough already..WAY
So-to business-have my catch up notes before me-please excuse the random nature of the responses ,I tend to go through name by name ,adding to each as the posts require,rather than strict chronological order
CM3-Yes the pic of Enistimon on the West Clare is rather splendid-not so much for the rail specifics as for the view of rural Ireland half a century ago (although crop out the train & buildings and it could be 3000 years )--the boxcar you queried is a P.G.E car-from the Model Power range,I found a U.K supplier of this brand when I first started delving into U.S. H.O-long before we had a `puter,and found they fit all my required criteria-a reasonable range of trains that are of an acceptable standard of near-enough accuracy,they are made in Slovenia (Yugoslavia ) and conform to euro rather than N.M.R.A wheel standards-and thus,will run on my track (back-to-back measurements through turnouts are the problem), and most of all-affordable-cars at $10 a pop,locos (with all wheel drive & can motors) at about $40-50 a time-less than half of equivalent U.S brands entry level gear,let alone the Gold/Platinum/Iridium/Plutonium hi detail stuff...........Enjoyed the `tales from the porch` observations on big rigs stuck up in the holler --I too am an advocate of lead flashing as ballast-have collected pounds of it over the years,free,from building sites I have worked on---please allow me to treat you to a bag of possum glazed (with sprinkles) to soak up your morning brew (although the groundhog crepes with maple syryp are starting to attract quite a following)
ERIC-wonderful yard shot of the BNSF cab etc-every layout should have a corner like that-not only a parking place for the `limping Lulu`s` of the fleet,but somewhere to really go to town on the general clutter,practice extreme weathering etc..nice -Liked the interurban btw------The early Festiniog engines were all open cabbed-as was the trend at the time on many railways-not sure when they were enclosed,if you notice,the crews are also wearing white jackets-another commonplace of the time-these were required to be clean at the start of each day.........The Rhyl line is/was 15" gauge-a model in the broadest sense of the term-it is an interesting area of study,falling into two camps-rich mans toy on the one hand and smallest viable load carrier on the other--The two best known examples are the Romney,Hythe & Dymchurch on the south coast (1st category) and the Ravenglass & Eskdale on the north-west coast (2nd category)--is too much there to go into here,but will prepare an evening lecture & slideshow on the subject,if it meets with general approval................loved that Brill car and the lovely little N/G engine & cars got me right where I live-good stuff
TOM-the freight car you were curious about is in B+O `Timesaver` livery -is from Model Power (see note above) and is part of a block of 5 normally run together:-3 of those,a B+O 40` gon & a Chessie 40` box......Although you have all been too kind to mention it-the low riders in the pix are all closer to `S` or even `O` scale than `H.O`-they are from the Mattel `Hot wheels` range and were a present from my daughter-they are used partly for that reason and partly to `force` the perspective on narrow baseboards for pix purposes-plus they are kinda cute.................Especially enjoyed the `Canadian Nostalgia`pieces of late (somebody has the travel bug methinks.........)and also the world wide artwork --now lets give the pot a stir-how about a running shed for some of those earlier `Canadian` locos-to keep them available for charter work and so forth...............---Now then--"We" are not the bloody president ( as you so rightly suggest )-As I understand it ,Her Brittanic Majesty ,as both Elizabeth Windsor & Sovereign of the realm etc is entitled to refer to herself in the plural-anybody else so doing,risks having the idiot Tony and the Blair witch dispatched as ambassadors ( a terrible fate...)......Which brings me neatly to that temperance poster-Lordy lordy-I would need a few belts behind the belt before I would risk a dance with any of them-was especially disturbed by the one at front left-it`s Boris in a frock isn`t it ..???-please say it is...........whilst on the subject of disturbing-the pix of the transfer to the bus-there is an ould fella with a white stick making his way up the platform-now-white stick-visually impaired-is anybody helping him-not a bit of it--welcome to the new millenium guys -not having a pop at your good selves,its just the background detail that I notice....apologies-rant over
Gonna go from here to watch `Walk the line`-Will be quite a treat to hear the songs delivered without Tony`s broad Dublin accent-did any of you catch his last album-very dark but wonderful-there was a man who could sing a story.......
ROB-Fine stuff on the C.P.R (print ) and the `International` (pix) et al-let me know when you are back,I have a few q`s you may be able to help me out with R.E cost of living over there -Ta
PETE-What ho dear boy-fine pix of Lion,the black 5,the Scot (as she should be-no smoke deflectors and in apple green) the compound,the panniers,the saddle tank,the industrials-the list goes on.....sooner or later we will bring these new worlders around to our way of thinking
Take your point R.E the pic of `Taliesin`-front end has a light glow from the chimney but plenty from the safety valves,rear end has loads from the chimney -perhaps something to do with running uphill ???-a well observed point........You have certainly put up a better shot of Thomas Bach than the one that I slipped in last week with the Fairlie not sure if the F&B transporter wagons were new build or conversions-assume as they were provided just for that traffic they would not have been common users-although they are not marked as such-somewhere I have a very old pic of F&B engine `Cackler`which towered over its coaches-looked not unlike Tal-Y-Lyn #1-will scour the library
MIKE-Some fine pix from the glory days of the C.V-that St Albans trainshed looks particulaly attractive............Your mention of veterans struck a chord-Messrs Allingham & Patch were both interviewed on Brit T.V last november and both were suprisingly articulate and coherent-that we should do so well,eh...?
ALLAN-Good to see you mate-catch up when you get back to your regular machine
DAN-Likewise mate-Looking forward to the report
FERGIE-You take care up there Mate (as I am sure you will....) steady as she goes and all that-safe journey skipper.....................
Right-looks like the bar is under Leons careful stewardship now,so better have a round-Thats a Blue for ROB,a Keiths for the Man,a Bathams for PETE and bottles of Staropramen for the rest-(go on-you`ll love it ) and another starop for me please
Right-perhaps a pic or two to end the evening......................lets see what can be managed....
Here we have `Errol Lonsdale` resting in the back roads at the South Devon Rly-last time I saw her ,she was the train engine on the Gwili Rly down here in the far west-have pix but need to upload first
This one looks like a Peckett-paint it green and it could be `Percy`the small engine.....
Well well,I found it-Here is `Errol` in deepest West Wales about 10 years ago....
Another `taster`-here we have former German Army 0-8-0t `Sir Drefaldwyn` with stock from all over the world on a Welshpool-Llanfair Caereinion service on a summers afternoon-a composite of 2 110 mm point & press pix
O.K guys-thats me done-I think I am about up to date and can hold my head up in company-have a good tuesday...will speak soon-Leon-these men look thirsty for drink as well as knowledge-sort `em out and put it on my tab-I`ve had a good week or two
sleep well chaps...
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
TOM Really great to see the photos from our trip on the Chaleur again. It really was a great time and those Budd cars look the classic cars they are. Real sure you won't need the bus this time. Looking at the photos I had not realized we had a named bus, ‘Le Gaspesien' before.
Hopefully you will have a different service manager on the train this time.
Glad you enjoyed the photos on Saturday.
Good films on at the Emporium this week. I have seen and enjoyed the Walk the Line film on Johnny Cash and would very much like to see Tommy Lee Jones in Cobb then, of course, the Stooges.
Many thanks for the Six Pack Special #2. More great artwork. I think my pick of this selection is the Union Pacific ‘California Calls You' one.
NICK. Many thanks for the great old photos of Rhyl Miniature Railway with those fine Bassett-Lowke locomotives. It looks from the first photos that they were taken when the railway was fairly new and possibly in the First World War judging by the some of the men in uniform on the train. In the last but one photo it really brought back the wonderful smell of the steam that hung around the station there. If I recall correctly the tunnel I mentioned is behind the locomotives in the station. The amusement machine would be behind those people to the right in the photo.
In the 2nd photo it looks like George Formby (Turned out nice again) on the loco's footplate. The photos are definitely ‘keepers' I wonder how many young people bring rock back for their friends after a holiday at the seaside like we used to.
Really great photos of the North Wales Narrow Gauge. I can't recall seeing a photo of a 6-wheel flat wagon before. The 6-wheeler wagons I mostly remember, were the milk wagons with their distinctive 'Ting Ting Ting' sound as they passed over the rail joints.
I guess traveling in that brake van in the 2nd photo was ‘interesting' In the photo of the Double Fairlie it is interesting that one chimney is smoking a lot more that he other.
The ‘taster' photo shows we are going to get some more great photos from Wales next week.
A former Dinorwic Quarry Hunslet works No. 849 'Thomas Bach', built in 1904, on the Llanberis Lake Railway, a preserved line, in the shadow of Snowdon. Than runs on part of the Pendarn Railway trackbed
ERIC Around the time of the L&M 150th celebrations there was a documentary on the Rainhill trialists and there was talk of Novelty being sabotaged. Interesting link to John Ericsson. It seems he was way ahead of his time investigating the use of solar and tides to provide power in the 19th century.
The Deltics finished in BR service in the early 1980s. They had been the top diesel power on the East Coast Main Line since their introduction in 1961 until the High Speed Trains took over the expresses in the mid to late 1970s. During the last years they regularly worked London to York trains. I am not sure why Finsbury Park depot chose white window surrounds to decorate their allocation of Deltics in their last days at the depot, unless it was because when the Delics were new and were in a two tone green livery they had white window surrounds.
D 9000 'Royal Scots Grey' in preservation days, painted in the original livery but with the yellow front end which came in after a few years of the Deltics being new and are now required for locomotives on the main line.
6 of the 22 Deltics have been preserved. A preserved Deltic can be seen on the main line working specials.
Many thanks for the photos. Did you get to ride the Brill M-55 on the day of your visit. I noticed the two different locomotives on the narrow gauge trains in Sweden; No 4 seems to have three domes on the boiler.
CM3 Thanks for the round and glad you enjoyed the photos. Yes the Midland Railway, around the turn of the century, designed some really handsome locomotives; some think their Single-Wheeler was the most handsome British locomotive.
Midland Railway 'Spinner' 4-2-2 No 673 at the Rainhill Cavalcade in 1980.
A round please RUTH.
Good Faternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Cool with rain today (maybe some snow tonight) .
Lots to took at today:
Pete - I understand what you mean about "progress." Midland Ry 3 cylinder is truly a mechanics delight. Also liked the Panier tank picture.
Fergie - Had to ask the question - we have lots of stuff in the mines which nobody has seen before. Did yard work yesterday before the temperature dropped close to 35 degrees last evening. Finished juuuust before the rain got here. Your comments on the CV were well taken. The 2-10-4s were the biggest locomotives in New England. They stayed on the upper end of the CV, of course, as they were too big to run on the "banana belt"
Rob - Apple critters - maybe for the refreshment cart for the next darts tournament. Can't wait to see what Nick dreams up for the "chef's surprise." Good VIA pictures - thank you.
Mike was in - Enjoyed the St. Albans pictures - spent lots of time up there over the years. The list of Great War veterans gets shorter. It was truly not Henry's time if he made it through the Somme. Fred Buckles, IIRC, lives in WV.
Eric stopped by with comments and pictures. Interurban on truck tires followed by a fine looking Brill car, and then the narrow gauge items and the PE steeplecab. If you can't find something in that collection....Your comment on the RDCs was on target. Used to bet pretty intense at North Station as the B&M only ran Budds for a long time. I will bring some pictures to the rendezvous. John Ericsson is a fascinating story - he was ahead of his time in many respects.
Nick was in with comments and some fine looking exotic beasties. There's always a prototype for something, you just have to know where to look. Quarryman's cars are interesting to say the least.
OSP - E-mail received and answered. PRR Q Class, another mechanic's delight. They actually did pretty well. Train tickets - half the fun is having a fistful of tickes (preferably with sleeper reservations) with your name on them. Have fun! I remember more than a few WWI folks around when I worked at the VA in Jamaica Plain - lots of stories from them. Good movie picks as well. The one about Tyrus really captured his essence, IMHO. One of my favorite lines in "Field of Dreams" deals with him. I'll take a frmed copy of the Railway Express poster, please.
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