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Wednesday's Witticism
A man loses his dreams, his teeth and his follies - in that order.
G'day Gents!
Ruth is back! She'll be here at 9 AM (central time) . . .
And to the surprise of hardly anyone, we find ourselves once again at mid-week in mid-continent USA - the halfway mark to Friday!
Coffee's ready - pastries fresh - ‘n breakfasts all set for cookin' . . . why not join us
Temperatures dropped nearly 60 degrees in a 7 hour span yesterday - now that's a CHANGE, wouldn't you agree <grin>
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Tuesday - Jan 29th: (all times Central Standard)
Page 176 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 10:27 AM: First day lite customer ‘n why would anyone be surprised that it is YOU
Your trip will be aboard a full-fledged Zep - none of those mini-versions <with girlie names!>
Many thanx for the inside scoop on the former Wabash - N&W "Banner Blue." Some fine insights provided that my guess only can be found within our confines!
Sure would've enjoyed traveling aboard that train - what a consist!
Another fine < I3 > Post with a continuing provision of quarters ‘n a ROUND!
Page 176 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:27 AM ‘n 10:39 AM: Tied for 1st day lite customer! <grin>
In the "What do I know? Department" - I think the abandonment of the Newfoundland Railway was a huge mistake, one that if the "rail fan emotion" <which I'm NOT!> gets removed from the discussion, leaves one with a huge question mark. What better way to move people ‘n freight in a place crying for rail transport! <geesh>
If you have some insights regarding the south American destinations for that narrow gauge equipment - it just might spur some interest from our friend Ron down in Mississippi. He's "big" on the railways of Chile . . .
Some interesting insights regarding the "chopping" ‘n stuff . . . things I'd never know unless tending bar in this joint!
Many thanx for the two visits!
Page 176 - Chris (MoPacBarrettTunnel) at 3:38 PM: I really try to discipline myself regarding time spent at the keyboard . . . too much of most things can turn one's head to mush. At nearing 70 - I'm still into variety . . . In fact, I only check my Email once per day, whereas in the past it seemed I was constantly "at it." I used to Post at this bar so much that perhaps it turned some guys away ‘n off . . . but that was then. Now, it's all on a much slower ‘n lower pace - ‘n I like it that way.
Should make additional commentary on that TERRIBLE looking GG1 in that RIDICULOUS Bi-Centennial livery you Posted earlier this AM. <arrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh> WHAT in the world did they do to "my" favorite locomotive Yeah, I've seen it before, but it always triggers these kinds of outbursts! <grin>
From the "Observation Deck" - word of caution extended: Please be mindful of "copyrights" - it's something we really try to respect ‘n urge the guys to get the "okay to use" prior to Posting . . .
Somewhere back in an earlier submission of yours we were "talking" about Amtrak 'n efforts to keep the trains in Missouri. Short answer is "no," I don't know the guy you mentioned. However, not being a "name dropper" <grin> I have met all sorts of people in Jefferson City who spoke a "good game" about keeping the trains on the tracks. My efforts were pretty much meager - I did manage to collect a thousand signatures on a petition back when there was a "threat" to eliminate both daily trains. In fact they did cut 'em to once per day for a short period - then the legislature got the message 'n it's been twice daily <both ways> since.
I never took the trip to KCity in "my previous life." It was only after "life II" began that this fascination of mine with that route began (1990). I guess I'm one of a dwindling few who can recall the trains actually getting to KCity on time 'n returning within a reasonable tolerance of it <time>.
Kirkwood station i
Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please (New England San Francisco Blend will be good today), round for the house and $ for the jukebox. The great cold front came through here about 230 a.m. - surely did get the K9 Korps upset, I guess the thought all the wind and rain was going to get him. We have had about a 35 degree drop in temperature. Gas is at $3.09 and we are counting down to the game on Sunday.
Rob visited with comments and observations.
MOPAC also came by with pictures and comments - what did they do to that MILW electric? Yikes!
Pete - Enjoyed your observations and the pictures of the two locomotives. The GWR (while not of my favorite lines as we have discussed before), is still lovely.
Eric - Glad to hear that you are up and around. Also thanks for the additional Zephyr pictures.
OSP Stopped by with SP material.
Here's a little more Wabash material for you - Boris, the maps, please. In 1957, the C&O connected with the Wabash at the following points
Calumet City, IL.
Chatham, ON
Chicago (via CR&I)
Clearing, IL
Detroit, MI
Peru, IN
Romulus, MI
St. Thomas, ON (via L&PS)
Toledo, OH (via TTRR)
Walkerville, ONT.
In short, we "followed the flag" to a lot of places.
Work safe
A quick good morning to all and sundry. <sneezes> wow look at all these flowers,I can hardly see Ruth for the plants.I wonder who had all these flown in on the Zep Perhaps a job for the inspector eh Well Ruth if you can find the tap I think a large BK splash and a number three , hold the pollen though <sneeze>
Tom-Yes I believe that the larger, re newer though that's a relative term of the NFD RR's loco's found homes in Chlie, Equador and El Salvador all on mountianous marrow guage routes.Similarly most of the CN's GMD1's ( were sold to the power starved Cuban railways ) these were standard guage units.
I hear you about the removing of the railway from Newfoundland and PEI for that matter,a desion made for ecconomic reasons more than anything else. Had the NFLD railways been standard guage they may have survived,the costs weer too great to blast wider clearances for modern cars and to standard the guage of the tracks,and to my knowledge the roadbed and trackage basically all needed replacing, big bucks for small gains in the ledger books of CN. Mind you lets wait and see because with all the oil revenue now flowing into NFLD who know some trackage and refineries may yet be built , I won't hold my breath but you never know.
As to hockey with a team as bad and as injured as the Leafs, they don't beat anybody anymore. Blow it up and start again is what most fans want, but the board and the teachers pention fund that controls them all they want is $'s so mediocrity will rule as with all the corporate seats they are never want for buts in the stands <barf> Ask me how I really feel.
Rob
Oops I see the coalminer snuck in right before me again,oh well Tom or is it Ruth can't tell cause of all these flowers,maybe a game of Marco Polo to find one's way back to the bar<sheesh> someones got more money than brains , there's enough plant's here that I'm affrain that the mentor bee keepers charges may invade soon.Anyway whoever's back there here's a thermos for another filling of the BK blend .
CM3-glad to see you in again in all this cold , dropped about 45 degree's here as well,mind you theh gas prices went up, to a round buck a litre,$3.80 your way sigh.
Great info on the Wabash's connections,I ahev somewhere a couple pictures of Wabash F units waiting by the Fort Erie Ontario station with some CNR Mikes in the background.It would be interesting to see shots of their ops along the L&PS. I expect that the connections in Walkerville and St thomas are the old Pere Marquette connections. The deisels they operated in St Thomas were built by London to get around the draconian, import exprot taxes of the day. Since the F's and Geeps mostly worked and stayed in Canada they got to pay Canadain prices, and know duty. those were the days (daze).
Visits from CM3 Shane 'n trolleyMAN Rob <twice> has gotten us off to a good start on this really, really C-O-L-D morning in mid-continent USA. <brrrrrrrr> Nearly time for the 2nd walk with Juneau, but first wanted to drop this off . . .
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Background: For more years than I care to count, I've been interested in S-gauge trains. Gilbert's American Flyer electric trains from my youth have always been on my mind. Being a Lionel-kid, of course my allegiance was to the 3-rail track ‘n trains, but inwardly, I really, really liked those S-gauge beauties!
A friend of mine said he had a "lead" on two sets of American Flyer trains that had been stored away for years - still in their original boxes. One was a Santa Fe Alco twin-diesel passenger set <drool> ‘n the other a steam loco powered freight - road name unknown. My friend said that he thought he could purchase them "for a song" and was I interested. "Are you kidding," said I!
To make a long story short - this venture never materialized. In fact just last week I asked my friend, "What ever happened to the guy with those American Flyer trains?" Reply was to the effect that he "dropped off the radar." Case closed. But not really . . . .
Back when my I was planning my Can-Am layout <2003>, I checked into the availability of S-gauge trains <not the toy trains of yesteryear, but the models of today> and found a few things that helped me make my decision to stay ‘n go with HO.
(1) Very limited availability of quality stuff, with two leading manufacturers producing very realistic and in scale loco's ‘n rolling stock <S-Helper Service, The Showcase Line - and - American Models>.
(2) Extremely limited equipment with roadnames ‘n liveries wanted, making it difficult to model a passenger railway "period pike" such as mine is; Canada-U.S. from 1990-present times, with VIA Rail, Amtrak, etc. Huge drawback - no RDCs . . .
(3) Almost non-existent accessories in comparison with HO; such as: automobiles, trucks, buses, figures <people ‘n animals>. Structures are available, but also very limited in selection.
(4) Limited track systems; in that it was difficult to find one manufacturer who "made it all.'
Decision time: After about 6 months of waiting for some positive information regarding those AF electric trains, I decided that it was time to "do something." So I did!
My criteria was simple:
(1) Build an S-gauge layout in the only remaining room in my basement - the storage room. This venture would require a pulley-system attached to the overhead beams which would enable the layout to be raised when the floor space might be needed for something else. The size of the layout was to be 8x7 ft.
(2) Find locos ‘n rolling stock for TWO railroads that existed within the same period - one passenger, two freight.
(3) A track system that included the roadbed, turnouts ‘n curved track to accommodate the 8 x 7 ft layout to be built <suspended from the ceiling on a pulley system enabling me to raise ‘n lower it when required>.
(4) The layout would be simple - an oval within an oval with 2 sidings ‘n a bunch of turnouts! All trains would be able to travel in ‘n out of the ovals through the use of insulated rail joiners, toggle switches ‘n my ingenuity! <uh oh>
Action: Almost everything I purchased for my S-gauge layout <aside from building materials> was acquired through an on-line hobby store called Port Line Hobby Supplies.
http://www.portlines.com/
I also got some very supportive advice in track planning from the people at S-Helper as I wanted only ONE type of track for my entire layout, which was satisfied by their S-Trax system. They even provided me with a track diagram to meet the needs I had outlined in an Email . . . you don't find THAT very often, do ya
I settled on the Illinois Central and Missouri Pacific for the mid-50s. The passenger train is IC whereas the freights are MoPac. Manufacturers are S-Helper Service - and - American Models.
http://www.showcaseline.com/index2.html
http://www.americanmodels.com/
The layout was constructed using 3 inch foam insulation board <pink> with a framework of aluminum. The hoist system was purchased from Harken.
http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/scpdinw1.ShowProd?409Z56LC7CH6I
Transformer is a beauty, made by MRC:
And it all began at this point:
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Ruth my deAH, I trust you had a safe voyage back to the Village ‘n that all went well during your extended weekend! <ahem> <blush> <errrrrrrrrr ahhhhhhhhh> Anyway, I'll take a mugga Joe with a jolt ‘n that should do for now. Boris may have that small jar of PPF after feeding the crittAHs - oh I see he has! A round for the house ‘n the change is for you!
This will be my last visit for a few days, email to Da Bossman explains it. Not to worry though, I'll be baaaaaaaaack! <uh oh>
Some pretty fine palaba since my last post - let me just give acknowledgment to those who've dropped by: Chris F - Pete - Eric - Rob - Ron - MoPac Chris - Jan - Shane ‘n of course our Cap'n!
I like the way Cap'n Tom has described our group - a small core of true supporters surrounded by some occasional visitors who appreciate what we do ‘n the way we do it.
For Eric: Very glad that you survived your surgery. From your writing, apparently you have! No hidden meanings in my Saturday encore - just copied it the way it was written, and added some color to it. But no other meaning. What in the world are you trying to stir up NOW
And WHAT's THIS A claim that my submission to the name the safe contest was STOLEN from the Desert Rat Are you kidding meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! <grrrrrrrrrrrr> Ain't so - and I shudda WON! <grumble-mumble-moan-groan-gnash-smash!> There's a FIX on, I tell ya - a FIX! <grumble-mumble-moan-groan-gnash-smash!>
For Shane: Congratulations on naming the safe <I think!>
For Pete: Should a ‘certain' person visit Jefferson City and make claim that a ‘certain person' is responsible for . . . don't blame me. <uh oh> Vito can "arrange" almost anything - given the price is met! <double uh oh>
For Rob: I see you've managed to get things to a state of organized panic in my absence. What in the world is going on Shots being fired - muskets racked - crittAHs scamperin' about as if their tails were on fire - Boris operating on fast forward <geesh> man <double geesh>! Get a grip . . .
Hey Bossman! Fine looking Norfolk & Western AND Southern Pacific material, for sure! Also today's installment of the S capades S-gauge is terrific too! I'm looking forward to the "rest of the story"! <grin> Hope we see some acknowledgments of your efforts as I KNOW you'll not follow up without interest. Wouldn't blame you though, for I'd be the same way.
Brings to mind a thought I've had about those guys who rack up the ‘numbers' in their posts. How many of those guys are putting out the kinds of "stuff" that YOU DO - day aftAH day I mean it just is so transparent to me. They "float" from thread to thread - forum to forum - dropping off this ‘n that - contributing just their two cents. Some thrive on just a few words per visit. Do they have their own threads Do they come up with original 'n innovative stuff By ‘n large nope . . . just racking up the numbers. Same thing going on now as when the "stars" were issued. That's how I see it. <barf>
Yeah, I know - ain't anything to get one's knickers in a knot ovAH - but there are days! <grrrrrrrrr> I'm still ticked that I can't get my hands around . . . . 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 - BINGO! <arrrrrggggghhhhh>
Ok, ok - I gotta take some deep breaths - so let me get to the Larsman Mobile for some covAHs <phew>
Western Pacific Color Pictorial, Vol 1
Union Pacific Locomotive Directory - 2003-2004
Johnstown Trolleys and Incline
Guide to North American Steam Locomotives
Southern Railway Steam Trains - Vol 1 - Passenger
Southern Pacific Classic Collectors Series (DVD)
Until the next time!
Lars
Good day Tom and all present. A round on me if you please. First, let me thank all who responded to my "railroad events calendar". I'm glad that everyone was able to extract something from all the information that was submitted. I'll continue along this path, until I run out of years or you tire of it. I try to find facts that are not too common, that are many times obscure. I know, it takes a lot of digging to come up with something new, but I enjoy what I do. If you don't hear from me at times, it's because I'm still digging.
Eric: Glad to hear you are on the mend and I'm sure there must be an interesting story about Cracker Barrel and your participation. Maybe you have pictures or a press release you could share with us. Nice spread of Zephyr pics. That is truly a classic train.
Tom: I'm really impressed with how you built the S-Capades. That construction of foam and aluminum must result in a light weight layout suitable for hoisting to the ceiling. If I were doing it, I would probably build it with plywood and 1x4's resulting in a HEAVY layout. Is the layout an ungoing project or have you just started? S gauge seems to be favored by narrow gauge modelers more, so there probably isn't much standard gauge stuff available.
Rob, Pete: I found the stud system of power pickup interesting. The studs are powered only when a tram(or trolley) is over the studs. As soon as the tram passes, power to that stud is switched off. I'm not sure how they do it, but early systems relied on magnets to activate the circuit. That proved to be unreliable. I don't know how they do it on the Bordeaux tram line.
Chris: Loved the picture of the EMD model 40 engine. It would be a great little project for a kit bash or a 1:8 scale project to follow my current project.
CM3: There was a movie about the China Clipper. The following courtesy of the Internet Movie Database.
China Clipper (1936)
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Ray Enright
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22 August 1936 (USA) more
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Inspired by Lindbergh's flight, Dave Logan sets out with a Washington-Philadelphia airline but suffers financial problems... more
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Cast
(Cast overview, first billed only)
Pat O'Brien
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Dave Logan
Beverly Roberts
Jean 'Skippy' Logan
Ross Alexander
Tom Collins, Logan's Partner
Humphrey Bogart
Hap Stuart
Marie Wilson
Sunny Avery
Joseph Crehan
Jim Horn, Import / Exporter
Joe King
Mr. Pierson (as Joseph King)
Addison Richards
Mr. B.C. Hill
Ruth Robinson
Mother Brunn
Henry B. Walthall
Dad Brunn
Carlyle Moore Jr.
Clipper Radio Operator
Lyle Moraine
Clipper Engineer
Dennis Moore
Clipper Co-Pilot
Wayne Morris
Clipper Navigator
Alexander Cross
Bill Andrews, Mechanic
Hello Tom and all in
I'll have a pint of Holden's Mild please (they had some of this in a pub near me Pete, yesterday - rather nice!).
Just catching up a bit - quite a bit of new material even though not so long since I was last in.
Before going further I must complement Ron on the link to the Railplane article - fantastic - must have been a transcript or scan of an original review. I knew of this ‘Meccano Magazine' construction but never in any detail. Ron's post prompted me to dig out more info so I'll post the results of my research in due course for anyone interested.
On the home front quite a busy weekend - Saturday saw the delivery of both the new edition of Classic Trains magazine AND the recent edition of Rail (a UK current era publication). Sunday saw a trip to the Great Central Railway Steam Gala weekend - great stuff - 6 locos in steam - high speed run past with a King Arthur Class loco (as pictured on the front of a recent book cover by Lars) heading a mail train with at speed collection and drop off of mail pouches at at least 60mph ! It was amazing to hear (and see) the loco approach at speed from a vantage point less than 15 meters from the lineside at ground level. Run bys with a mixed freight and 16 ton mineral wagon train as well as 3 passenger consists in action. We were able to stay until the last train after night fall for some very atmospheric shots - and ride in the 1957 directors observation saloon - and - one for Allan here - take an interior tour of the now restored Coronation LNER streamlined observation car! They have four original interior seats - each one cost £ 500 to re-upholster!
Anyway - looks like my post on Tower Colliery was appreciated by various people. Allan, CM3, Tom and others (not least Nick - good to see you) certainly mentioned it as I recall.
CM3 - noted your point about head frame - we call them headstocks here - and this is very typical for a UK mine - all tend to be like this apart from some of the more modern mines sunk in or since the 1950s - which themselves are now closed.
These two being examples of a different style - the one at Cliptsone being a protected structure.
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.c20society.org.uk/images/building/clipstone/clipstone_02.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.c20society.org.uk/docs/building/clipstone.html&h=298&w=450&sz=74&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=oKFv_qudaD8N_M:&tbnh=84&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dclipstone%2Bcolliery%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DX
http://www.minersadvice.co.uk/images/harworth-2000.jpg
http://www.c20society.org.uk/images/building/clipstone/clipstone_02.jpg
With the mention of Cornish miners I noted recently that due to the increased price of Tin one of the Cornish mines has recently been talked about as re-opening. I don't think anyone ever thought that would happen - never say never eh?
Other comments on the pictures were of interest too. Being BBC shots they were quality photographs.
Tom, once again enjoyed the RR magazine covers.
Pete - you mentioned slow approaches of drivers to stop points - according to my driver friend this is due to the new focus on preventing passing signals at danger (SPADs) and the target focussed approach to this! Of course most SPADs are at slow speed and just roll over the line in error - with no accompanying danger - so station stops were prime candidates. To avoid these at all costs drivers are now going at walking pace into stations it seems.
Collectors Corner was a great place - good fun t poke about although back in those days (as should child) my budget was limited to paper memorabilia I think. Like you say they had good stuff at what now seems like good prices. I recall the old building they were in was some sort of railway stables back in the day.
Hope you can scan and post your slides. Eric must know the trick as we have been treated to a great many enjoyable pictures for his own collection! (Good to see you back in Eric - take it easy over future weeks I hope)
Allan - yes, hope you can source out the DVD's - I think you will enjoy them - I think the British Film Institute have published 6 volumes of BTF films plus a new remastered version of Night Mail with an accompanying more recent films on moving mail by rail and road. All are very good quality but if I had to choose one I'd go for the first volume ‘The Classics' - financial resources permitting of course!
Of course interesting to read your own comments about family connection in the coal industry.
Nick - good to see you in after all this time! Sorry to hear your time has been taken up with less than pleasurable activities. Nice that you have been able to take stewardship of the model collection - that what any enthusiast would want - to be able to pass it on to another relative with similar convictions I feel sure.
Rob - thanks for your feedback on the TTC future plans, interesting to read.
Well, I'll review a bit more recent stuff and have another Holden's please!
Regards
DL
Mid-week blahs ‘n don't know WHY!?!?! Beautiful blue sky day with temps just the opposite from yesterday . . . really cold while we await the arrival of a snow storm due in tomorrow at this time. Hope it's a whopper! <grin>
Thought I'd get in some ACKNOWLEDGMENTS while I'm on line . . . one never knows what the ‘morrow may bring!
Wednesday - Jan 30th: (all times Central Standard)
Page 176 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:05 AM: A bit earlier than usual, but then again - what's "usual"
Good continuing flow of Wabash info . . .
For what it's worth - my heart is with the GIANTS, whereas my wallet says PATRIOTS! <dilemma>
Good to see ya ‘n many thanx for the quarters, ROUND ‘n chat!
Page 176 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 8:20 AM ‘n 8:31AM: Now, now - calm yourself down, Mate! Just come to the realization that ALL pro-sports is nothing but a money grab - YOURS ‘n MINE - then it's easier to handle. Blues beat ‘em - just a contest between two teams in dire need of a win. I don't see either going anywhere for awhile . . .
The last time the Blues dropped a game up there may very well have been when a group of us (with wives) attended a game at the old barn. It was a blast - we flew on the same Air Canada Regional Jet with the team . . . ahhhhhhh, memories!
Interesting thought regarding even a remote possibility of restoring rail to Newfoundland - even if only freight. If ever a landscape cried out for the use of it, that rock surely does! Now as far as PEI goes - well, that's ‘nother issue. A high-high tide would take care of that province in a heartbeat . . . <uh oh> Anyway, there's more necessity for rail on the rock than the little island, dontchathink I do.
Appreciate the visits ‘n chat!
Page 176 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 11:20 AM: Most happy to see your Post ‘n your Email has been received - thanx!
Should say straight off that I appreciate your comments on my Posts - there are times when I really wonder if the efforts are worth it . . . just one of those <daze> I guess. <groan>
Glad you enjoyed the S-gauge material - there will be more, just didn't want to inundate the place with discussions of Toy ‘n Model Trains - especially with the Hall Monitor overseeing things. <wink, wink> <nudge, nudge>
Hey Mate - there was NO "fix" when it came to the Name the Safe Contest. And yes - yours was in the lead until CM3 Shane dropped his on us. Win some, lose some ‘n others are rained out! Get over it . . . <Eagles song>
Yeah, I hear you regarding the racking up of numbers - just means more to some than others, I suspect. I KNOW how much time it takes for me to do the things ‘round here that I feel responsible for. Just can't imagine spending my entire day doing it. <barf> <ugh> <no thanx!> Some guys never had any toys when they were kids - or something like that, eh
Many thanx for the continuing display of those covers! Said it before ‘n it's worth repeating, "Don't know how you do it, but keep ‘em coming!"
Appreciate the visit, ROUND, chat ‘n covers!
Page 176 - Ron (DD1) at 12:03 PM: Good to see our Resident Southern Gentleman down in Mississippi make an appearance.
Appreciated the comments on the S-Capades ‘n I thought ‘n thought of so many ways to design the thing. One did in fact include the use of wood. But I've been a big proponent for the use of the insulated foam boards (that's what I used for the Can-Am HO railway).
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Off topic today, the mind wanders. Beg your indulgence.
Photos of Nha Trang by John Copeland of 569th Engineer Co., thanks John!
Camp McDermott
http://4twins.photos.military.com/photos/177048931-O.jpg
http://www.no-quarter.org/gui/detail.php?ID=33651
Map
http://www.569th.com/gallery/Command_center.jpg
'57 Chevy
http://www.569th.com/country/city/shops86.jpg
More photos of Nha Trang at 569th Engineers excellent website
http://www.569th.com/soldiers/camp/index.shtml
18th Military Police Brigade
http://www.geocities.com/militarypoliceofvietnam/TET.html
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=r6lQ-430NL0C&dq=Tet+:+The+Turning+Point+in+the+Vietnam+War+-+by+Don+Oberdorfer&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=7k5JeYPN67&sig=-l-teClE-5OI4ChWN0XRccCWrBg#PPA1,M1
Mike, former supply clerk at 16th MP Group in Nha Trang
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual Tui`s for all the crew please!
Eric. Great to see your surgery went so well for you, a couple of years after they did mine you could`nt see where they`d operated. Now you can work up your appetite for that steak and all the trimmings at the Cracker Barrel. Nice lot of shots of the Zephyr, they were definate "keepers"!
Pete. A great set of pics of the Duchess of Hamilton, the A4`s, the Deltic and the Castle, all "keepers"! Nice write up and info on the A4`s and origin of all the names and numbering system for them. Great pics of Sir Nigel, she looks "brand new" in the new paint job! Sorry to read that the A4`s trip is all booked up, still you will have a lot to catch up on with Dan and the Alan`s! You were well rugged up in that pic Tom took at the Kirkwood rail museum.
Lars. A great double selection of covAHS from the Larsman Mobile down on the Key`s
Nick. Good to see you back on board again mate. Sorry to read of your family`s sad loss. Good info on the nickname Taff.
Rob. Nice set of pics from your Grampa`s collection, sounds as if you have saved a lot of the collection he took BITD, enjoy all your pics over on the other thread too!!
CM3. Very interesting info on the Wabash passenger trains, and congratulations on your winning the green safe competition!
Ron. Very interesting list of events in 1935, the year of my birth no less! And good info on the movie "China Clipper" can just remember seeing it way back when. Hope your back pain is on the improve.
Chris. Good to see you again mate, should have waited longer for that vid to load, Sir Elton was over here last month for a once only show in New Plymouth, their is a a sound shell like the Hollywood bowl there, was`nt able to get any tickets, a lot of Australians came over for it. Nice crop of pics you posted, the "Bi polar" was a "keeper"!
Dan. Will heed your advice and go for The Classics set first, a very interesting set of links to those mine headstocks, my stepmother would`nt allow me to go down the mines when I left school so I ended up as a Boy Entrant in the Artillery, the mines and the shipyards were about the only main choice on Tyneside in those days!
Mike. Very interesting post of Nha Trang with the links to the regimental web site, were you an MP? MP`s in the Brit army were called Red Caps because of their red head gear. Some of my Kiwi ex service mates here served in `Nam in Charlie Co, NZ Infantry, and 161 Field Battery.
Jan. Nice to see you back on board mate, try and take it easy on that work ethic, thanks for your good wishes too!
CFournier. Nice to meet you!
Tom. Nice choice of flicks for the weekend, and very interesting Fallen Flags #32 on the N&W together with the drumheads and passenger train nostalgia #67 on the SP with the drumheads as well, and really enjoyed the write up on your S-Capades model RR with the links, a rather apt posti
Good evening Leon , I think a guiness and oh what the heck he's enough for a round on me as well,gotta keep the registers cachinging.
Tom-Yup both teams are well , it's a public forum better not say it What I saw of teh game it seemed like it wasn't all that bad of a tilt , as with most pro-sports it's almost a licence to print money <barf>
Great to read about the S-capades again, the pics don't do the justice of the ingenious mounting system that you devised.
It's not a big deal that PEI lost it's RR now more than ever with the Confederation bridge up and running there's no need of trackage,beyond tater's and Anne of Green Gables they haven't much to offer. He duck's in case any Islanders are looking in.
I for one would love to see real working trackage on the Rock again , as it does make sence as anyone who's driven the eight hour trek cross province can attest.The scenery is way to nice to drive through a train ride would do it justice. that's it we need to start a bring back the Newfie Bullet website !
Mike & Dan-Some interesting urls to invest some leisure time reading into, thanks for sharing.
Lars-Ah yes organized chao's that's what I speacialize in besides someone needs to give the critters and Boris some excercise.Great covah's as always,lets just be thankfull that our thread here is remarkably JO free
Ron-Magnets would seem like a good thing to use to turn the studs on and off,much better than the in ground trough type always hot wire systems that were used in the earlier days of electrification, alot safer with the on off functions as well.
I 1/8 EMD model 40 would be a neat little project , nice thing about it you could buy one of the HO roundhouse ones to use as a template. Funny thing I saw a roundhouse 40 on one of the club layouts at the train show I was at last sunday and they had it pulling about six autoracks around. the kids in the room thought that was the cats behind , but you could tell that the serious rivet counter types disapproved by their wringing of the hands and muttering.
Hi Tom and all.
Good to see you back RUTH, you are looking, UM refreshed, so a Bathams please.
ERIC It is good to know they still run a circus train each year. I dare say there are some very interesting stories about the circus trains when they all traveled by rail in the olden days. The Great Central Railway in England has some passenger cars known as ‘Barnums' which related to the circus of that name but unfortunately I do not know their history, I believe there was a ‘Barnum' preserved at the GCR at Loughbourough although I am not sure if it is still there or what condition it is in.
Many thanks for the Zephyr photos.
I'm sure Mountain Man Mike will not be a problem to you in your new fitter state.
ROB It seems just you and I, at the moment, can see any resemblance between the Deltic and a North American diesel, I think it would be more evident in the prototype Deltic which did not have the headcode box and even a place for a headlight that was never fitted.
The 4-character codes were used on the front of locomotives and some multiple units from the early 1960s to the 1970s. They were for signalmen to identify the destination and route of the trains. The code is still used today for trains in the signaling centers and is shown on LCDs as the trains moves along the route diagram in the signaling centers. The class 87 electric locomotives introduced in 1973 and locomotives and units after this were built without headcode boxes. The locos that already had them display four zeros in the boxes and the boxes were plated over and marker lights fitted when they went through works for overall. The headcode box on the Deltic was re fitted by preservationists to give the loco the look when first introduced.
CM3 I agree the Great Western passenger locomotives did had a lot of style about them when the copper fittings and the paintwork was clean. The Castle class designed by C.B. Collett in 1923, a development of G.J. Churchwards Star class of 1907. Despite its small looking size out performed the Gresley original Pacifics in trials and the LMS power at the time of its introduction, so much so that the LMS asked Swindon to build them some Castles, this was refused so the LMS got the drawings of the Southern Railway's Lord Nelson class which formed the basis of the Royal Scot class. After the LMS got Collett's assistant William Stanier as Chief Mechanical Engineer it never looked back.
LARS MOI to blame for the turmoil in Mentor Village, it wasn't me who set up the double date with H&H that started the trouble. Anyway I hear Vito has been hired to look into a certain stolen contest entry.
I too am looking forward to more of Tom's building of the S-Capades.
Many thanks for today's covers from the Larsman Mobile, that is a great artist who does the Western Pacific covers and I have actually got the Union Pacific Locomotive Directory book..
You will be missed at the bar for the days you are away
RON. Yes compiling the "railroad events calendar" must take a lot of work but it is great reading those facts some as you say little known but fascinating.
It is interesting how the power was turned on and off on the stud system. I see in one of the links, the system was blamed for electrocuting a horse but it said the likely cause was that the poor animals were often badly overworked in those days. I guess they were trying to get the Tramway Company to pay for the poor horse.
DL That is great service you get with Classic Trains, I will have a look in the local bookshop for it, as it was not there last Saturday. I wish my magazines from the UK came as quick.
That sounds a great day at the Great Central Gala. I have seen the mail pick up at Quorn but I don't think they were allowed to go that fast those days, Sir Lamiel must have looked great. Those mineral wagons on the Windcutter are great, I donated to the fund to save them and was invited to special day when they arrived and were put into service. LNER A2 Blue Peter was on the GCR that day and we had special train to Rothley where buses took us to Rothley sidings where watch the run pasts, I will try to find some photos.
I think you are right about the slow approach to stations could be to do with SPADs
Yes Collectors Corner had that wonderful old building smell if I recall right
Hey Allan , thanks. yes I have tied to save as many of gramp's pictures as I could,I can tell you for a fact though that he did not take any of them.When he used the little kodak box camera he had there was always a finger or the wrist strap prominently in front of the lens on every shot. that or the subject of the pictures were missing body parts ie heads.My dad inherrited his dad's ability to not take pictrues well, and we all bought him a digital for Christmas Oh well glad that you've enjoyed them
Here's a redo from the old thread.
THE BIG LOOP: ONTARIO'S GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAY CLASSIC STEAM #40
Most of Ontario's early railway lines barged straight inland from a port and stopped either where the forests and farms ended or when the construction money did.In 1852 The Grand Junction promoters , proposed a different approach.They would loop a line from Belleville where it would connect with the Grand Trunk Railway go around Rice Lake to Peterborough,and then back to meet the Grand Trunk again at Toronto.This configuration would give the railway two ports and an extensive farm and forest base to ship product to and from.
But money dried up before the loop could be started, and the project was shelved until 1873.By then other railways had penetrated the area between Peterborough and Toronto.The Nippissing, the Midland to Port Perry and the Whitby Port Perry and Lindsey, so the Grand Junction ran only as far as Peterborough, and even at that it took seven years to complete !A gold rush in Hastings captured the intrest of The Grand Junction,and it built a spur into Madoc near the gold fields.Then when The Midland Railway went on a binge and aquired the Grand Junction as well as all the other lines between Peterborough and Toronto(1893), the loop was finally complete,at least in terms of corporate ownership.Passengers could travel until the late 1950's and freight service was provided by the CN until the 1980's ( in 1917 CnoR purchased the whole lot and thus came under CN's umbrella in 1923 )The CNR gave up on it in the late 80's as they did with most of the web of low yeild Ontario branchlines. The original Peterborough portion still exists in tact,and a final decision on it's disposition is still up in the air as it's owned by the City of Peterborough.
Hey Pete we posted at the exact same moment don't think we could do that again if we tried.hey leon I think someone drank my guiness oh I did I guess I need a refill here's a bit o cash for an extra holden's for stealthy Pete.
The deltic needs to have only one cab though to really look like an American locomotive.I don't know what it is with you Brits and numbers.theres a guy here in Brantford , that has to copy down all the loco numbers he comes accross while he's at the station,he has a camera but I've never seen him use it,just his coil notebook. Nice guy I have talked with him a few times seems he only will photograph loco's he hasen't seen before his books broken up by type GP9's etc, he flips to the page an looks at his notes I gues if it's not noted he'll take the shot,hard at 60mph I figure
From what I understand Barnum and Baily still own and run a Circus train , they own the cars whomever the local railroad is supplies the power. I can remember seeing both CN and CP pull them in Ontario when I was a kid.
I'll have the Holden's ROB has kindly offered to get LEON.
Done a 'refresh' and saw your post
Single cabbed locomotives and the car seats all facing the same way was one of the big differences I noted when first seeing North American railroads. The only real locomotives in the UK apart from switchers with a single cab at one end was the English Electric class 20s and in my experience it was very rare just to see a single locomotive as they worked in pairs with the cabs facing outward.
I wonder if they do a book with all the locomotive numbers and types of the CN and CP locomotives, so that he knows which ones he as seen before, he has to be quick to check the loco and then take a photo if it is a new one.
Have another Guinness on me.
Pete.
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, Wednesday evening, what should I have a Wednesday evening? Hmm. I think I'll have a number 3 and lots of curly fries. A cold Keith's to drink. Thank you!
This week is going way too fast. It is hard to keep up!
Rob – Geez, be quiet! Who told you about my plans? Be careful, somebody told me the Mountain man can read. But everything is going according to the plans, so far. Thanks for the Big Loop article! It seems like there was hundreds of those small railroads in Canada. Hope the city of Peterborough decides to keep what is left. Tom – Didn’t you like the Bi-Centennial livery on the GG1? I think it looked great. It was only for a limited time. I didn’t suggest Nessie the Lock Master, I was going to suggest Nessie the Lock Monster! I figured it out when I was at the hospital but I guess I said something during the operation (anesthesia) and somebody heard it and called Manager Lars. Things are being taken care of when it comes to Mountain Man Mike, that is all I can say. That dumpster thing? I don’t remember. Other brunettes? I know, but there is only one “the brunette”! Tigers eat almost anything. Maybe I have to leave early, before the farewell dinner?! I was surprised when SP gave up and was swallowed by UP. I heard quite a bit (direct from a top guy) about all the plans they had for the future in 1993 and did not expect them to disappear any time soon.Interesting to read about how you planned and built your S-gauge layout! Especially since I have seen it! Looking forward to the next installment! S-Gauge trains.
CM3 – Thanks for the Wabash info!Lars – I already explained to Tom how it probably happened that you got hold of my name for that safe. But you changed the last word Monster slightly to Master! But that is okay, that is why you didn't win!Good books (and DVD)! Especially one of them, Guide to North American Steam Locomotives! I have it so I know it is a very good one. Lots of info! Ron – I actually believe I saw that movie, the China Clipper, many years ago. DL – I’ll take it easy forever now! I am retired and I will not do anything too hard on me, not even during my 20 hrs at work/week. Mike – Interesting photos from Vietnam! I can see a railyard in the top one (left side). Allan – I am going to have my Steak & Bisquits tomorrow (Thursday). Their is only one person at “my” Cracker Barrel who knows how to cook them my way and she has promised to have them ready for me tomorrow!Pete – I have not had time to look for the circus train photos, but happened to find one by accident. Maybe I can scan it tomorrow. I checked the museum’s website and there will be no circus train this year. Haven’t been one since 2005. Eric
Another round Tom
Hope you saw Coast Guard on the map.
Allan, no, I was never an MP, just a supply clerk in an MP unit. Probably the Army gods deemed me supply worthy by virtue of vast experience as a stockboy at the local five-and-ten. The fun part was that I got to drive the Dussenhalf. And a real Jeep. It was great, I'd go back to being 20 in a heartbeat.
Rob, you speak heresy. Without a railroad on PEI some kid will not grow up to be an engineer like my grandfather and his brothers.
Nick, if you read this, you remind me of a cousin who calls collect once in a blue, confident that we'll gladly accept the charges. Take good care of the inherited toys. Sorry to hear young Hannah has lost her grandfather and Mrs. Nick her dad.
Ron, interesting history on Mardi G. Never been to the Gulf Coast states. Maybe someday.
CM3, did you say Packard Twin-Six? And we thought you wanted a Crosley.
Eric, yes, you've got a good eye for detail. I didn't see any trains over there though, just tracks.
http://www.569th.com/images/map_md.jpg
DL, you remind me of a song by Elton. Daniel my brother you are older than me. Great Uncle Dan was a CV engineer.
Gosh all this typing I better say hello to Mopac and Jan. Lars who?
Pete, how do you do it with one finger, I'm exhausted.
Prince Edward Island timetables
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=47873
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=47872
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=47647
New England Pullman trains
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=43955
Mike
Here in mid-continent USA, we're awaiting the arrival of our 2nd snow storm of the season - 1st of the new year . . . "they" are predicting 6 inches <or more> - which really isn't that much - but "we takes what we gets!" <grin>
Coffee's been freshly ground ‘n brewed, pastries stocked in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts are ready for ordering from the Menu Board!
Comments from the Proprietor:
Far too many nite-time Posts for me to address - so my ACKNOWLEDGMENTS will be simply that! Many thanx to all for making "Our" Place YOUR Place!
Page 176 - Mike (wanswheel) at 3:46 PM: Pensive Mike, revealing just a tad more as the years pass by. Appreciate the visit ‘n round!
Page 177 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:49 PM: Round of Tui's - < I3 > Post ‘n meaningful interaction - all part of what we try to achieve ‘round this joint! Your part of the world sounds like heaven on earth to me!
Page 177 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 7:52 PM ‘n 9:43 PM ‘n 9:56 PM: Three visits with the Wolfman squeezed in! "Big Loop" seemed "new" to me - happens when one gets O-L-D! <grin> Appreciate the support for the joint . . .
Page 177 - Pete (pwolfe) at 9:43 PM ‘n 10:26 PM: Hmmmmmm, what happened to the "slot" <geesh> As said earlier, "We takes what we gets" ‘round here! Your "qualification" remains in force as an operator of the S-Capades - but we DO require recertification on an annual basis! <uh oh> Another fine < I3 > Post ‘n of course two ROUNDS!
Page 177 - Eric (EricX2000) at 11:52 PM: A fine < > Post from our Resident Desert RETIRED Swede! Appears you are well on the way in the "mending" department. Nothing wrong with your <wicked> mind either! So you just couldn't wait, eh S-Capades fotos look fine! Thanx for the < I3 > Post ‘n continuing support for the bar!
Thursday - Jan 31st:
Page 177 - Mike (wanswheel) at 12:12 AM: Our Resident URLMeisterMonsterMike returned with a little something for everyone - well almost. <grin> Perhaps one day . . .
I'll get to the URLs later on . . . thanx for the visit ‘n ROUND!
Regarding Nick <nickinwestwales> ‘n Chris <CFournier>: I wouldn't get our hopes up, Gents - they've been gone for so long that to expect a resumption of regular activity just because of a brief return is really asking far too much. Remember, "We takes what we gets" at the Bar by the Ballast!
Morning Tom and da-gang. Hey Ruth could I get an extra large thermos of the BK splash #1 yes the good stuff and oh no I think just a plate of flapjacks to eat. No Boris "Jacks" not cats <sheesh> here's the keys to teh critter treats you know what to do with it oh and go for the small PPF you don't need to inflate any friends today
Pete-There are books like that available , every year since 1982 the Bytown railroad historical group out of Ottawa put out a paperback called trackside Canada , it covers all RR's that operate in Canada as well as shortlines museum's and regionals,but I've never seen him with a copy Maybe he's the fastest finger in the west.
Eric-I was just looking out for you afterall Mike is a Mountain of a man and is alot quicker than he looks.Take H&H for back-up at least they can carry you home should you find yourself in a dumpster again <uh oh > but not to worry H&H make good nurses.
Last I heard the lets get rid of the ugly tracks group in Peterborough ws hankering for a bike path <barf> mind you it's 80lbs rail so they were left intact because of their low scrap value , which is why they are likely still intact.
Mike-Hey a couple great urls from the little Island thanks Not to worry i know of a couple Islanders that have become CN people in the last ten years. The tracks were pulled out completely in the early 90's. Again it was all extremely light rail,CN had to roster extra light loco's GE 70 tonners and the long gone MLW RSC13's to tip toe over the tracks there.
An RSC13 from the gramps box
Hey Tom required recertification dabossman does run a tight ship or railyard I hiope you don't get the gale force winds we had yesterday almost all day. the Burlington skyway brideg was closed for seven hours after a tansport was blown on it's side during the morning rush hour,thank god no one was hurt and more importantly I don't use that route. Still colder than a witches you no what up here though,but no snow
Just stickin' my nose in to see what's up - not much! Anyway, noticed that foto from trolleyMAN Rob that didn't show! <gotta CHECK on your submissions BEFORE running off!> <geesh> Ahhhhh HA - came back with an "edit," didja!?!!?
Want to say THANX to CM3 Shane - Gunneral - Rob 'n Lars for keeping "my other Thread" up 'n running. Don't know what the purpose is anymore - since it's really not attracting any "new blood," but it just won't go away! <grin>
A couple from that site that I've Posted recently . . . .
MTC #1959 built by CCF in 1928.
<personal foto taken at ExpoRail, Saint-Constant, QC, Canada>
MTC #350 built by Brownell in 1892 and was the first electric car to operate in Montreal (Sep 21, 1892).
<personal foto taken at ExpoRail, Saint-Constant, QC, Canada.>
Thought also that it's time to provide our "Ground Rules" again . . . <from Page One>
Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch. Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch.
Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.
Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Still awaiting the "big snow" - I'll believe it when I fire up the sno-blowing-MoSheen!
Later!
Tom
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; Coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Running lkate today, but work trumps other activities.
Cloudy today with temperatures in the 40s. There are threats of ice, etc. for later this evening - we'll see what happens.
Mike - Thanks for the photos and sites. Yes, it was a Packard - only because I can't find a good-running Locomobile.
The 1957 New Haven Pullman list is a nice piece of material. Recently I posted some material on the Wm. Penn and the Quaker in response to a question from Eric. Back on the old site, you'll find some information on the "Boot" that I posted there.
Eric visited - your comments about the UP/SP situation were well-taken. There are a lot more horror stories behind that situation as well. IOW, The Great Yellow Father bit off a lot more than they could chew which wound up grid locking large segments of the system. Rob visited with stories, reruns and a neat bldr's shot of an MLW RSC.
RBB&B has two circus trains - a red train and a blue train. They run in different sections of the country. Straits Shows is another outfit which travels by train. It's lots of fun to watch them when they come to the Erie County Fair in New York every season.
Pete - Thanks for more background information on UK steam. I kept lists of units when I was actively photographing. But I did this only for roads whose power situation was relatively stable. The reason for this is I didn't want to wind up shooting roster shots of the same engines over and over. Boston and Maine and CV are examples of this. As for logging engine numbers, can't say as I did. In general, then as now, my thoughts on photography is shoot everything, especially the so-called "everyday" stuff. That is what most photographers skip in favor of exotic items that appear infrequently.
Lars was by with observations and book covers. Take care.
DD1 - Thanks for the information on the "China Clipper" movie. I'm going to find out if that's available. They had an interesting cast with Humphrey Bogart getting 4th billing - hmmm...
DL - Tin mines reopening? Similar to coal as I thought I would never see active recruiting of miners again for work around here. Function of the demographics of the workforce.
OSP - Thanks for sharing information on the "S" Capades part of your empire. Certainly a creative way to deal with the space you have,
A pint of Holden's Special on this rather chilly day please RUTH.
MIKE Many thanks for the photos and the links.
The Gull services must have been great trains to travel on.
As to the one finger typing, the answer is very slowly, I did try more than one but when I put it into the spell checker it said, "You must be joking", so it looks as though I am stuck with the old method.
ALLAN Glad you enjoyed the photos, I have had great fun looking through the old photos, hopefully Shildon Phots Saturday.
Although it looked cold in that snow at Kirkwood it really the temperature was not bad at all. I have always loved seeing railways and especially steam locomotives in the snow.
Elton John played about 30 miles from here last year, the bride went to the concert with some friends from work, all girls, and so I was left here. She said it was a great concert that she very much enjoyed. I guess I shall have to wait for the WHO to come near here.
ROB Really glad we are able to enjoy your Gramp's photos at the bar, although he did not take them.
Many thanks for the redo of the Big Loop. I see it lasted in to the late 1980s for Freight. Any idea what may happen to the line the City Of Peterborough owns.
It is good to know they do those locomotive books in Canada. I brought over my Ian Allan locomotive books over, I see the unmarked Combine Volumes from the 1950s are fetching hundreds of dollars on e-bay when the come up for sale, unfortunately I do not have any from the era unmarked. If they had a fastest loco photter contest that chap must be a good contender.
Thanks for the photo of the RSC 13.
What's this about sending H&H away to help Eric, they are my bodyguards to protect me from Vito the Hit's friends who Manager Lars has hired. I don't know why the Manager is so worried about the bar while he is away; we have not had any structural damage (yet)
ERIC Many thanks for those great photos with those marvelous Mo-Pac locomotives, loved the engine crew when the photos are enlarged.
I shall look forward to the circus train photo it is a shame the train has not run since 2005
CM3 It is good to know there are at least two circus trains still running.
You are so right about photographing the ‘everyday scene', it is sad not to take photos of the common scene until one day it changes and you realize you have no photos of it. Looking through my albums and slides, the ones that were everyday are giving me a lot of pleasure but I have regrets now I did not take more of them.
TOM Real glad to know my ‘Ticket' is still good on the S-Capades, it is one test I shall look forward too. I guess my position of ‘Dispatcher on the Can-AM is more in doubt, after the train I was suppose to be watching became uncoupled, run round its train and derailed the passenger cars in the tunnel.
Many thanks for the photos from ExpoRail. I remember well, waiting at the station in the rain for the car in the first photo to pick us up, and a great photo of Montreal's first electric car ‘Rocket'
Pleased to see CM3 Shane - and - Pete dropped by . . .
Snow has arrived - began without "fanfare" of any kind at about 10:40 AM - no frenzy, just the white stuff covering all - Juneau was most happy with our 3rd walk! His "mama" got home early 'n he's had walk #4! Spoiled Nahhhhhhhhh, he just "boss." <grin>
Now Arriving on Track #1
Patron's Pix - Number Four
Explanation: This series features fotos from the guys who have entertained us over years on the Original Thread and here at the Reborn "Our" Place . . . As long as these fotos "live" in the Ether, why not have ‘em redone right here Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown. The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.
Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown.
The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.
Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 07 Jun 2005, Page 22 of the Original Thread:
#1 The next is a picture if snowplow TP-11 one of two built to combat heavy drifts in 1946 by national steel car in Hamilton Ontario. We lovingly refer to this car as the beast!!!.
The next is a picture if snowplow TP-11 one of two built to combat heavy drifts in 1946 by national steel car in Hamilton Ontario. We lovingly refer to this car as the beast!!!.
Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 08 Jun 2005, Page 23 of the Original Thread:
#2 Car # 1 TRC 1326 a 1910 TR car built in the company shops one of three hundred such cars. (1300-1710)
Car # 1 TRC 1326 a 1910 TR car built in the company shops one of three hundred such cars. (1300-1710)
#3 The second car is Toronto civic 55 Preston car and coach manufactured in 1915. Wooden single truck double ended cars.
The second car is Toronto civic 55 Preston car and coach manufactured in 1915. Wooden single truck double ended cars.
#4 and finally car #33 Montreal and Southern Counties 107 interurban combine built in 1912 by Ottawa Car and Coach also a wooden double ended car.
and finally car #33 Montreal and Southern Counties 107 interurban combine built in 1912 by Ottawa Car and Coach also a wooden double ended car.
Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 09 Jun 2005, Page 24 of the Original Thread:
#5 A shot of the museum's classic Grand Trunk (1912) built Rockwood Station saved from destruction and moved to the museum in 1971.
A shot of the museum's classic Grand Trunk (1912) built Rockwood Station saved from destruction and moved to the museum in 1971.
Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 10 June 2005, Page 25 of the Original Thread:
#6 A little shot of yard three last July 10th during the museums 50TH anniversary celebration.
A little shot of yard three last July 10th during the museums 50TH anniversary celebration.
Enjoy!
Missed any
#1 . . . Page 135
#2 . . . Page 141
#3 . . . Page 152
Leon, let me have a triple cheese burger, raw onions and curly fries! The usual to drink!
Kind of quiet day here at the Bar today! It is not even Friday. But tomorrow is!!
Mike – Early morning! I checked the map so I have a good idea from where that picture was taken. Did you take it?Tom – Wait? Me? Oh, I saved some for next week! I like those Traction photos. Especially the top one! Looks there was a mishap sometime. They burned off the overhead wire or maybe a car with a too high load caught it and ripped it down. The wire has been repaired once. Juneau spoiled?? Oh, no I wouldn’t say he is. No, not Juneau, he is just used to have things done certain ways. His ways. Plain habits, nothing else. Let me put it this way, he is not, repeat not, being abused.Good looking streetcars in Rob’s old post! Including the “Beast”. No, not Juneau. Rob – Thanks for looking after me! I’ll keep H&H in mind!80 lbs rail? Let’s hope the scrap value doesn’t go up!CM3 – Shoot everything is the the right thing to do when it comes to photography. “Everyday” stuff photos is what you will like the most after so many years. Pete – We’ll have a closer look at those Mo-Pac locomotives next week! It will probably... no, you’ll see next week. That #2253 locomotive seems to be eqipped both with air- and vacuum brakes. Is that correct?
Here is the circus train photo. The truck is actually pulling those trailers on board the train. You can see exhaust fumes around the rear wheels of the truck. More to come.
Eric
Well good evening my lambkins,how are we all on this crisp and bright winters evening ?? lovely to see a roaring fire in the hearth-although that looks like a human femur poking out of the ashes(BORIS -Explain-NOW!!!)-well,looks like a healthy list of acknowledgements to make since my last visit,so lets get about it-before I do,many thanks on behalf of the family for all your condolences and kind thoughts-he was one of us and aware of the bar although much too shy to join in....
Right-Leon,be so good as to set all these good people up with their tipple of choice (and no ice in Canadian Chris`s single malt thank you..) and I think a bottle of the special rum and a tray of shot glasses for some winter warmers-its a night for toasting toes and swapping tales...
OK-,from my notes-ROB-Putting Pearson on the network would certainly make life easier for my family-is an expensive cab ride from there to Yonge & Eglinton at any time of day..love those pix from gramps- good job-hey those E-Mail jokes had the boys in the band crying and got me a serious slap from Missisnick-double plus !!!
Capt TOM-that header pic rings a bell-either London or Glasgow underground (or poss the GPO private line) had very similar looking motors-will have to look it up...Will sort some pix of both Alans trains and the family holiday last summer (South Devon Rly,Dart Valley Rly and the main line around the coast )asap-was the last ride we had together so extra special memories-thanx also for the S-Capades breakdown-is an entirely different approach to construction to the normal Brit method-vive la differance as they say
CM3-Aint that just the truth mate-token example-letter addressed to "personal attention of Alan McConnell (deceased)"-you couldn`t make it up for money could you ?.......
ERIC-Glad to hear you are healing well-do I detect a touch of quiet anarchy here ...??--remember,big brother is watching-room 101 awaits.....
LARS-how are you old chap ??-was gonna throw a `spot` on that Southern Railway cover,but PETE beat me to the drop-and far more accurately let it be said..-hope all is well in the city that never sleeps..
PETE-some cracking pix there dear boy-enjoyed the Duchess & the Germans but especially the blue A4 with the blood & custard coaches-pure 1949-I suspect I am one of the few people that actually LIKED that livery combo-even the Bulleid pacifics wore it well for my money,although it didn`t sit well on the Castles-good call on LAR`S southern poster btw-I had it down as the flying junction at Gloucester Road between Norwood Jn & East Croydon-full marks to you there ....For my 2 shillings worth,all the English Electric locos had the shape of the E/F units about them...
DD1-Hi there mate-nice to meet you-have a shot of rum-well interested to learn about the full size Maerklin stud system-prototype for everything dept..
MOPAC CHRIS-again,nice to meet you -grab a shot-could tell you are a drummer-no-one else would be banging on the door at 4 am in 1-4-7 time (aint that a bu**er to do)-love the pix-that GG1 looks like yer granny in spandex-just plain wrong...
JAN-again.nice to meet ya-grab a shot and lets gas-welcome to the best bar in town-just don`t eat anything cooked by BORIS..........
DL-how ya doin mate !-glad to see someone apart from PETE is flying the flag !! -who do you fancy for the match on saturday ?-we got the druids at twickers and they aint won in 20 years-could this be the one ..???
GUNNERAL-hows life in middle earth ?( blame Peter Jackson ) wont even mention the rugby..............good to see you again-have a wee top up there,its early yet
MIKE-less the reverse charge cousin,more the appalling uncle who turns up uninvited to the wedding and tries to snog the bridesmaids-but I thank you kindly for the thought......
So-whats new here-well,just had a full day of the music-6 hours with the country band,dinner,then 4 hours with the blues band knocking my new fretless jazz bass into shape-paying now-fingers are raw...
spent a half day yesterday checking out the layout (S.O.B Lines) after 2 years total neglect-lordy,I had no idea spiders could grow that big in this climate-looks like Miss Havishams wedding breakfast up there-mice have eaten things-only good news is that the badgers who live underneath the shed havn`t tunnelled up (although they have made a fair mess of the lawn...)
Have decided that as I have had several years of running Canadian stock and have now aquired some new Brit stuff as well as Alans Swiss things we shall have a season of Brit running so all the buildings will be changed as well as signals and other give-away items--have run up most of my old Tri-Ang and other Brit engines on the bench and all seem to be working suprisingly well so looks like the Somerset and Dorset wil be making a comeback and a token Pines Express will once again depart Bournemouth west for Bath green park and points north-will take and post pix as I go-I know the S&D will be unfamiliar to most of you but it surely counts as a classic -ask any Brit modeller
Right-seems to be getting early late again-better just slip into the galley and make sure the fish is fresh and BORIS isn`t touching anything-a few quarters for the juke-Oscar Peterson Trio live would hit the spot,sleep well chaps,speak soon,all the best,Nick
Good evening Leon , I think that I need a refill of my thermos from this morning. The high-octane BK splash please here's a couple bucks for a round for the late arrivers as well.
Tom- Sooo the winter wonderland has returned for a couple days ( daze ) eh "sposed" to start here around midnoght my time ,temps going upto +1 but they are calling for lots o snow and possibly freezing rain ( oh joy ) good thing I'm off tomorrow
What me edit a post say it ain't sooo !
Some guy from ontario took some neat traction photo's too, we should try and get him to jooin are little gang here whatdayathink
Pete-Interesting shots sir, and don't worry H&H can help both of you , they are bigger than life. I've yet to see a man or beast that could hold up to their um charmsI think that eventually the line that's left through Peterborough will become a trail , mind you like I mentioned to Eric it's very light rail 80lbs which has little scrap value at the moment and theer are a few industries still on the line, who knows a shortline could happen as CN and CP both run near to town and a connection could be built again.
Eric-Neat shot of the circus train,not to worry H&H tend to do what I ask them. I'm not sure why but they do. at any rate if they can't help you.You could always become better aquainted with good ole Koperkettle he can fly you out of harms way on Zeplin One.
CM3-The Erie County fair now there's something I haven't gone to in a loooong time.
Another flying visit by Nick , felt just like old times. Right down to the spandex ,<yikes> who says spandex isn't for the large boned persons, it helps undo what gravity did. Boris seems to have a spring in his step again
So lets see three more of the pics we got from gramps. Lord knows where he found em, or who created them but what the heck enjoy all.
Algoma central GP7 #152 the second last GP7 built rolled out in late '58. She's still around chop snozzed and working in the US at a grain elevator for ADM
One of only Two SW8 switchers from the ACR
A shiot of the ACR's unique sault Ste Marie roundhouse with it's indoor turntable one of very few built this way
enjoy
Friday's Grin
Reason "things" happen!
Murphy's Law of Lockers:
If there are only two people in a locker room, they will have adjacent lockers.
Don't know the OH-FISH-UL measure of our 2nd snow fall of the season <1st of the new year> - but the lyrics, "Sleigh bells ring, are you listening? In the lane, snow bells glisten . . . " It's indeed a WINTER WONDERLAND out there this fine morning ‘n Juneau's heart is extremely happy! Temps are in the lo-20s (F) ‘n it just feels GREAT to be alive. <yeah>
Sadly to say, by Monday we'll be in the 50s (perhaps 60s!!!) so all of this will be but a memory - but ‘til then, we'll ENJOY it! <yeah> I figure we got about 8 inches - which by my "standards" isn't very much - I like to measure snowfall in FEET!
Well, it's the end of the work week <for many> AND the beginning of a new month! What better way to begin it than with us Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh - breakfasts ready for orderin' from our Menu Board, so let's get a move on, Mates!
Thursday - Jan 31st: (all times Central Standard)
Page 177 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 8:37 AM: Surprise early AM <day lite> visit from our Resident Ontario Connection!
Fine looking RCS 13 . . . took long enuf! <grin>
According to the OH-FISH-UL weather data, we had a swing in temps on Tuesday from a high of 73 (F) to 15 (F) before day's end . . . was 11 (F) for our first "walk" on Wednesday AM . . . that's just a tad ridiculous! Approaching snow storm is beginning to cloud the skies with temps in the high 20s - just right for some accumulating white stuff. Winds haven't been a factor <yet> . . . did have some mighty blasts pass thru here on Tuesday . . . Ahhhhhh, snow began falling here at 10:35 AM <Thurs> . . . .
I've learned over the years of knowing Wolfman, that you just gotta use the "Refresh" feature on HIM! <grin> He spends far too much time IN that black bag of his, ‘n when he's not doing that, he's finding reasons to procrastinate this ‘n that . . . One day I'm going to have to get him up to the St. George Arms - he'd probably file for Canadian citizenship on the spot! <grin>
Page 177 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 11:44 AM: Your Email was received, responded to ‘n forwarded to the "fearless few." <sans Lars - as he's incommunicado at present>. Anyway, highly recommend you reconsider - definitely a "winner" for this place!
< I3 > Post, visit, quarters ‘n ROUND most appreciated!
Page 177 - Pete (pwolfe) at 2:51 PM: Sir Elton is one of those characters in life I prefer to listen to <enjoy his tunes>, rather than watch. Makes my skin crawl to look at him . . . but that's just Moi! <grin> Never have figured out WHY the Monarch would grant such a title to ANYONE who hasn't served with honor in the military. Again, just Moi!
The situation involving your Can-Am Railway "SPOTTER" duties wasn't totally your fault. Seems to me Juneau had you preoccupied - however, "recert" is required for that as well. <uh oh> [swg> Don't worry, we'll do a review at the TrainWreck next time you're in town . . . <grin>
Fine looking steam locomotive! Takes just a bit of getting used to seeing the bell in that position - but she's a fine looking MoSheen!
Nice link explaining #2253 . . . thanx! Appreciate the use of URLs as a supplement to the written word ‘n fotos. That's been ‘n should be the way we "do it."
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. We missed all of the snow and settled for high winds, horizontal rain, ice, and general slop – not a bit of snow. Well, maybe later. Two more laws:
"Late trains always get later> The Law of wal-Mart "
After you have been standing in line for 20 minutes, another check out line will be opened as soon as you get to head of your line.
Pete was by with comments and some fine pictures of the USA Transport Corps locomotives.
Eric – Great shot of loading flats – enlarge the picture, folks, and note the bridge plates between the cars – TOFC was done that way back in the day.
Nick – Good to hear from you. OSP was in as always with weather report (St. L. was on old people’s MTV (Weather Channel) last night – looked as though it was really coming down, too. I enjoyed the rerun traction pictures. Now, what did Juneau do with the rest of Pete’s arm?
As requested in your post, although edited a bit. Following is some comments and expansion on most recent issue of Classic Trains.
The story on “Final weeks of N&W Steam” is one of the better ones that I have seen anywhere in a long time. The picture of the Y6B at Matewan (pronounced MATE-wan) shows the condition of the N&Ws physical plant at the end of steam; edged ballast, not a piece of junk in sight.
If you have seen the movie “Matewan” you will quickly see that the town in the movie looks nothing like the real place. Incidentally, most of the movie was shot in Raleigh and Fayette Counties in WV. The mine scenes were done at Beckley and most of the above ground scenes at Thurmond.
Some of us got involved in doing technical advice for the production company when they were developing the script, etc. It was something different to break up the routine of the day.
There are several other pictures of Y6Bs in their native habitat at Williamson in the article as well. The caption for one of the pictures is a bit misleading as it says, “A Virginian Railway hopper car in the background tells of N&W’s recent merger with that road.” The date is correct, but coal cars from all over the area ran on other road’s trains. In addition, it was not uncommon to see coal cars from the PRR or the NYC “off line” as well.
The coverage of the 0-8-0s at the end of the article is quite well done. Page 27 has a nice shot of a cut of coal cars at Williamson. Check out the PRR-style position light signal over the second car. PRR owned the N&W but the latter road ran pretty much as an independent property except for a few things like the signals.
Now we move ahead to a good set of color shots of Birmingham which were made just before I moved to that part of the country. Many of the passenger pictures were made at or around the old Terminal Station. One of them shows an SAL SDP35 doing what it was supposed to do.
L&N had some of these as well, but I don’t recall ever seeing one in passenger service as L&Ns passenger trains at that late date were pulled by E units of varying vintages. IIRC, the L&N SDP35s were purchased because of their larger fuel tanks.
There is also a photo of the “Southland” being switched at B’ham. This train, of course, originated at Kansas City. Interesting collection of head end cars in the shot including REA reefers and a truly filth ACL baggage car. Southern makes an appearance a few pages in. Fine looking tuxedo E units. There us also an RPO on one train and an RPO/storage mail/baggage car on the other.
Another SAL SDP35 appears on train 34 with an SAL coach, a New Haven sleeper, and a hw SAL diner. This sort of thing I remember quite well as it was an “accommodation” train in the best sense of the word – something for everybody and an RPO as well. IMHO, the USPS killed the passenger train in the United States when they shifted the mail from train to truck and flying machine.
The remainder of the article has a nice selection of industrial locomotives, a tantalizing glimpse of the IC, and an A-B-B-A set of ACL f units with a freight. Regrettably there is nothing about the big player in town – the L&N. This is probably because their facilities were mainly north of B’ham.
Last, check out the article titled “The Black Market.” Embedded in there is some interesting stuff about power use.
P.S. Sorry abt. the edit, but the forum decided to post the first try as one block of text.
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