This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
G'day Gents!
My finale for this fine day . . . things you've seen before, but perhaps have forgotten over time.
New Haven Railroad
Atlantic Coast Line
Streamliners
Rock Island Line
Burlington Route - Zephyr
Montserrat - Euro
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ATSF - Super Chief
DRG&W - California Zephyr
Southern - Crescent Ltd
GTW - La Salle
1953 - The Clinchfield Route
RR Magazine - 1952 - Destination Pittsburgh
RR Magazine - 1943 - Rails Across the Blue Ridge
RR Magazine - 1946 - The Circus on the Tracks
And if one can't fine "Classic" in any of the above - my guess is you don't know the definition!
The movie selections for our Emporium Theatre will be released tomorrow (Sunday)!
Enjoy the weekend . . . .
Tom
Hi Tom and all,
Tui`s all round for the crew please Cindy.
CHRIS. where ever you are mate!
Eric. Hope you are feeling a lot better now after the Op and working up your appetite for that steak at the Cracker Barrel, enjoyed the pics you posted.
Rob. Should have guessed you would paint the de Witt trolley in the Toronto TTC colours, nice lot of diesel pics you posted.
Dan. We have the PAL TV system over here in NZ, but I have a Panasonic TV and DVD player/recorder that can play all systems and formats of DVD`s, the DVD player is multi zoned too, i`m looking forward to ordering some of those DVD`s from BTF. That was sad news of the Tower mine closing in Wales, thanks for the link to the BBC News site and the pics, my step mother`s first husband was killed in a mine accident in the Algernon pit in 1941, it was part of the Backworth mine group in the Northumberland coal field, a lot of my family were coal miner`s in the area.
CM3. If my memory serves me right, Cousin Jack was the name given to Cornish miners, a lot of them came to NZ for the coal mines in the West Coast of our South Island and in the central North Island and they had that nickname here too, a lot of Geordie miners from my home county came over here as well.
Lars. Another crop of great covAHS from the Larsman Mobile down on the Key`s and a hilarious encore of Barndads, that jet equipment looks like the snow clearers` they used in the old country in 1947.
Mike. Nice links to Sir Ed`s visit to the US in 1954 and the NY Herald remembrance of him, also great links to that W Virginia site and the Wheeling bridge, thanks!
Ron. Very interesting link to the Railplane site, the LNER was my local rail line, their engineer, Gresley, was very supportive of any new ideas in transportation. Nice links to the Mardi Gras site too, thanks.
Fergie. Bet your burning the midnight oil on the MESS RR at the moment.
Pete. Many thanks for that photo of "Bittern" in it`s "Silver Link" guise, a must save by any standards! Am looking forward to all of your pics now you have the new scanner working, enjoyed the new crop of Alan`s pics too. What date are you going over to the old country for the A4 anniversary, are you making it an extended trip and seeing all the old faces and places`? Wish I could join you and the Alans` for the great occassion!
Tom. Enjoyed your comments on the Meet that`s coming up, we sure would burn all the midnight oil, as well as making a BIG hole in all the brew! Enjoyed all your pics of parts #6 and #7 of your`s and Pete`s visit to the Kirkwood museum and the latest pics as well. Had a very nostalgic happening here yesterday morning, the sound of a J class steam whistle coming up the valley here, it sounded awesome, their`s always a steam loco and train in Napier for our yearly Hawkes Bay Wine Festival, it comes down here to Waipukurau for a couple of trips to Hastings and back over that time.
See ya, Allan
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Holden's please LEON.
LARS Surely you would not have wanted that lady to travel all that way unaccompanied, you do not know what sort of person she could have met on the way. There I was doing what I thought was a good turn and now I have got to part with some of my meager wages to hire H&H as bodyguards.
Good choice of encore with DOUG's post from nearly 2 years ago. It looks like the mystery car is a jet engine for snow removal. I miss Doug too even the jokes.
RON Enjoyed the list of events tied to Chris's.
Yes there have been some weird and wonderful inventions and as you say some became fact, even some that did not quite make it provided parts of the invention that could be used in another project. An artist in the UK produced a book of paintings of steam locomotives that never left the drawing board; I recall one painting was of a large American steam locomotive built to the British loading gauge that the Great Central Railway at one time considered buying to haul heavy freight from Immingham Docks.
It is a real shame what is happening to the Mardi Gras in New Orleans.
ALLAN I had hoped you would like the photo of Bittern alias Silver Link it was a pleasant surprise to me to find it in one of my albums. I have found some photos of some of the last days that A4 Sir Nigel Gresley ran in LNER livery and the early days of the BR blue livery also on the GCR at Loughborough and I have loaded my slides from Shildon.
Unfortunately I have read that the three A4s trip is fully booked, I have yet to tie up when I will be going over, but I will be visiting relatives and friends and we will arrange a day out with DL, Alans and I.
Your reply to Dan reminded me how dangerous the miner's job is, the coalmines of the North East and elsewhere became familiar names to me, as the factory I worked at used to get the large DC mine winders in for repair and renovation.
Thanks for the meaning of ‘Cousin Jack'
There is nothing quite like the sound of a steam locomotive whistle.
TOM Many thanks for the photos of the very atmospheric and busy Montreal Central station. I noticed on the board the HEP and that the Amtrak was running I hour 20 minutes late, looks like they would have to find another platform for it as the Ottawa train was booked into platform 14 at about the time the Amtrak was due in. But there again if it WAS on time the Halifax train is in platform 14.
Really enjoyed the encore of the posters, drumheads and magazine covers, they are indeed classics from the classic age of railroading. I very well remember the elephant helping to load the circus train.
Looking forward to this week's films on at the Emporium
Some more photos for Photo Day. This time it is the pride of the LMS Duchess class 4-6-2 No. 46229 Duchess of Hamilton. The location is HATTON, a station not far north of Warwick, about 20 miles or some from my hometown. The loco is working a special from the ex Great Central London terminus of Marylebone to Stratford on Avon. Hatton is the top of the 1% grade from Warwick,you can just see the top of the grade by the angle of the cars.
46229 is turning onto the Stratford line, the line on the left carries on to Birmingham.
I do not have too many lineside photos as I mainly travelled on the specials. This is a pic of the Duchess at Sheffield on another rail trip I was on, the start out of Sheffield to Dore, about 5 miles, is on a 1% grade.
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These should enlarge.
Well LEON another round and the Steakplease then I'll stock the bar.If any shady looking characters, speaking a bit funny ask for me, tell them to talk to H&H.
Pete.
Reminder: We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . January 27th thru February 2nd: Night Passage (2006) Starring: Tom Selleck, Stephanie March, Stephen Baldwin, Polly Shannon & Saul Rubinek - and - Slap Shot 2 (2002) Starring: Stephen Baldwin, Jessica Steen, Gary Busey, David Hemmings & David Paetkau. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Booby Dupes (1945).
Night Passage (2006)
PLOT SUMMARY: How Tom Selleck's world-weary cop Jesse Stone became the police chief of sleepy Paradise, Mass., is revealed in this engaging prequel to the first made-for-TV Stone feature, Stone Cold (2005). Selleck is once again well cast as the rough-around-the-edges Stone, whose drinking problem gets him ejected from the Los Angeles police force; he soon finds himself the head lawman in a small New England fishing village, where his slow dissolution continues until a routine domestic disturbance case reveals connections to money laundering and murder, with several of the town's most affluent names as possible suspects. Selleck is well-matched by veteran scene stealer Saul Rubinek, and there's good work by Polly Shannon as a city attorney who becomes Stone's romantic interest, and Stephen Baldwin as an ill-tempered local. Fans of author Robert B. Parker (on whose books the Jesse Stone films are based) and Selleck won't be disappointed by this smart thriller. --Paul Gaita
How Tom Selleck's world-weary cop Jesse Stone became the police chief of sleepy Paradise, Mass., is revealed in this engaging prequel to the first made-for-TV Stone feature, Stone Cold (2005). Selleck is once again well cast as the rough-around-the-edges Stone, whose drinking problem gets him ejected from the Los Angeles police force; he soon finds himself the head lawman in a small New England fishing village, where his slow dissolution continues until a routine domestic disturbance case reveals connections to money laundering and murder, with several of the town's most affluent names as possible suspects. Selleck is well-matched by veteran scene stealer Saul Rubinek, and there's good work by Polly Shannon as a city attorney who becomes Stone's romantic interest, and Stephen Baldwin as an ill-tempered local. Fans of author Robert B. Parker (on whose books the Jesse Stone films are based) and Selleck won't be disappointed by this smart thriller. --Paul Gaita
<from: amazon.com>
Slap Shot 2 (2002)
PLOT SUMMARY: With the original Hanson Brothers still on the same minor league ice hockey team, the Chiefs are sold to a new owner who gives them a female coach and puts them in a league in which they are to be regularly humiliated by an opposing Harlem Globetrotters-like team. Written by Damaris
With the original Hanson Brothers still on the same minor league ice hockey team, the Chiefs are sold to a new owner who gives them a female coach and puts them in a league in which they are to be regularly humiliated by an opposing Harlem Globetrotters-like team. Written by Damaris
<from: imdb.com>
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Booby Dupes (1945)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help.
The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend! Tom
Well a very good evening and indeed a happy new year to one and all !!!!!
A rare night in,so I thought I would make the effort to spend a few of my hard earned pounds in the best appointed tavern this side of the great divide...
So--How are we all ?? -I see Eric is recently under the doctor (cheap shot resisted-just..) but all seems well generally-a number of faces from the past are back (Rob & Mike-howdy !!) as well as a whole new set of folks to kick back with--excellent Smithers,to quote one of my few TV faves.
Things have been a touch strained at this end of the bar-we lost Alan,my father in law,to the big bad C at the beginning of november and are still sorting out the tortuous web of his fiscal dealings and all the other nonsense that a death provokes in the beaurocracy--don`t get me started on this.......................................................................
Happily (if that is the right word) I have been given stewardship of his train collection-a delightfully eclectic mix of standard Brit outline,bought for the boys when they were younger,and some quite exquisite Swiss,French & Austrian outline pieces that were ,in a quiet way,his pride and joy. Whilst these will all run on the S.O.B lines they are mostly overhead electrics so a new small layout with catenary is in the planning stage..watch this space,as they say....
Outside of all this,the various bands are working as hard as possible (any Johnny Cash fans check out Big River Band on U-Tube for video of us rehearsing ) and life continues much as always.
Now then-a few notes made whilst reading the last couple of pages-Capt TOM-Slapshot 2-looking forward to seeing it-the original is prolly the only film that has had my entire family (*) helpless with laughter (*-apart from my sister-she doesn`t `do` laughing-go figure),wonderful poster shots of the streamliners and those big tough Iron Range ore haulers--wouldn`t want to shovel coal on one of they beasties for any length of time !!!!
Now-coal seems to be a topic -a touching sight watching Tyrone O`Sullivan and his boys marching out of Tower colliery for the last time,backs straight and banners raised--13 years work for 230 men from a pit the alleged experts had written off as unviable--proud men and rightly so. I saw bath houses mentioned--the anthracite seam extends across to us here in the west and was worked over in Hook (the next village upriver to us)until `49 when the N.C.B closed it down (prolly cos it was an unbelievably dangerous and squalid series of holes) many of the Llangwm men worked there and the shed out front of our cottage was the bath house for our terrace -the only shed in the village with a chimney and fireplace and running water (before many cottages had it)
Linked to this,I saw Jacks mentioned-many people think all Welshmen are Taffs or Taffy -this is really only Cardiff boys-(Cardiff sits on the river Taff) Swansea boys are `Jacks`-I have heard a couple of tales here,one to do with a faithfull dog ( a greyfriars bobby thing) the other to do with copper mining in the Swansea valley-you choose.....
And finally-I spotted what looked like a birthday list or similar from DD1 including the (in my opinion) worlds finest cellist-Ms Jaqueline du Pre-did you know that the same Channel Islands family had thrown up another famous player--Gus Dupree,a well known `face` on the post war London jazz circuit,whose daughter Doris married Bert Richards and raised a son named Keith,who met another Dartford youth named Mick Jagger...................................................
Well-its getting near bed time-hopefully life will settle down a bit so I can get back with you guys on a regular basis-have certainly missed it..
Leon-theres a $100 bill under the pigs-foot jar for beer,rum and the juke--enjoy-Take care now me darlins`,speak soon,love to all ,
Nick
Good evening gents. I sunday pop in as this week was well to put it mildly,busy. I'm glad that everything has kept a humming friday and saturday , great to see the support from all who participated.my dad had to go into the oral surgery bay, so spent most of my weekend off with him playing cards in keeping his mind of the pains in his mouth.He won most of the games so he must be feeling better.
Pete-fab bunch of pics from you these last couple of days , great steam from your side of the english channel and the other 5x for them all.
To answer your question , yes they do have one steam loco, a small 0-4-0 tank engine that was one of two used to build the Sir Adam Beck hydro plants by the falls. They are not going to have anything operational. Certainly not across the bridge street bridge, with boarder crossings as they are it just won't happen.
<uh oh > Wow you coulda shoulda saved yourself alot of trouble and pain , by simply asking the mentor musket corps to send along a couple volenteers to protect Lars's lady friend. I'm thinkng that you might be put to work in Vito's helium mine
Mike-Great pile o urls sir thanks, as always most are great reads some longer than others
Ron-Loved the rail-plane what a hoot that thing must have been while it existed. great birthday list for Chris too
Lars-Go easy on Pete , I mean I think he was only trying to be "gentleman" and protect the young lady . Mind you as I mentioned above could 've been done better. Great book covah'sfrom friday sir
Soo your not into yard games eh Oh well I don't know what you would be doing.Laying out by the pool is so I don't know 1960's.
CM3-shane-I do love all Alco products, the Rs27 is a personal favourite, a little known little built prototype. I have a friend in grand Island that's a great Alco modeller ( HO ) he's a picky modellers picky but he told me today at a train show in Ancaster ontario that the current Alco RS27 model that walthers has available in the Proto2000 is the best detailed model he's ever seen,that's huge praise from him let me tell you. sorry tom I know it's not wednesday but the comments fit the converstation sorry. I'll pay for the breakfast rounds for everyone tomorrow On I have never seen it before at a train show note , theer was a guy wondering around in there with an NMRA satndards guage on a lanyard hanging around his neck measuring wheel clearances etc of pieces of rolling stock and locomotives on the tables,takes all kinds I suppose, but wow.
Tom-Sorry you had a bit of a busier weekend than I like seeing you have to have. great material and pictures though sir.The movies for the week are all good ones as well.I aggree with Lars great caption on stealthy Petes photo.
fergie-Nice to see you in,just don't break anything major on your ski trip,beter yet just stay in the lodge and enjoy the "hot chocolate"
Allan-yup guilty as charged I will paint it TTC,guess I'm perdictable
DL Dan-The long term plan is to keep the existing streetcar routes in Toronto, the long long term goals are a least one more subway extentuion of the new Sheppard line as well as improvements to the Yonge line increase it's capacity.Bigger stations more passing trackage etc.They are looking at connecting Scarborough and Mississauga to the downtown corps via new dedicated light rail lines , hopefully connecting Pearson airport as well.
Finally holy cow Nick n west wales , well I be gobsmacked Good to see you sir. Sorry to hear about the why and how you came to be lost, but wow i do hope that you can return to the fold as time progresses , we miss the humour in the Kitchen.Boris hasn't been the same cyclops but boy was he happy to see you I thought your head might be popped off your body by that hug he gave you.
And another post script a huge wish to Chris , hope you make it back soon
Rob
Well gents since I was away for parts of friday and saturday ( well most of though I did log in long enough to read )I'll buy the breakfast drinks n food for the morning.here's a few pictures from grampa's photo box hope you enjoy them.
The CPR's on off MLW RSD17 , know as the Empress of Agincourt
A CPR trainmaster in prairie grain service.
A CPR MLW S2 in it's original paint scheme switching in Toronto.
See everyone tomorrow.
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A smile to begin the week!
90% of short putts don't go in.
<A Yogi-ism!>
All breakfasts are "on" trolleyMAN Rob this day! So order up what you can handle ‘n double the "spiked" OJ! Rob's buying . . . [yeah
A nice way to begin the week, eh
Comments from the Proprietor:
Name the Safe Contest ends TODAY!
(1) from Lars (LoveDomes) . . . Nessie the Lock Master!
(2) from Rob (trolleyboy) . . . . . Green MoSheen!
(3) from Mike (wanswheel) . . . ??????
(4) from CM3 Shane (coalminer3) . . . Cash Stasher
(5) from Pete (pwolfe) . . . GREEN MONeySTER
(6) ) from Allan (Gunneral) . . . The Mean Green Money MoSheen
No word from Our Nocturnal Resident Desert RETIRED Swede - Eric (EricX2000).
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Saturday - Jan 26th:
Page 174 - Pete (pwolfe) at 9:18 AM ‘n 9:39 AM: Supportive fotos ‘n some chat for our ENCORE! day - all very much appreciated from our Bar Chandler ‘n friend, Wolfman Pete!
Can't help with that "thing" YOU brought on - Manager Lars isn't happy . . . <uh oh>
Thanx for the visit!
Page 174 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:34 AM: Creative ENCORE! from our Larsman . . . yes, the guy called barndad always provided interesting material, spliced with humor - no one did it better. But ya know - it was his choice ‘n his loss too. Sure we miss him - but life goes on, eh
Wonder what the "answer" is to that mystery foto of the NYC "thing" Hmmmmmmm. A bit of research should solve it . . . any takers
Elena 'n the girls, eh <grin>
Visit ‘n round appreciated!
Page 174 - Ron (DD1) at 11:33 AM: A Saturday visit from our part-time irregular regular in Mississippi - our Southern Gentleman <aka: transplant from New York>!
Appears I misread your piece on the rail plane - once I found the time to go through it all. Very interesting ‘n appealing piece for the discussion of Classic Trains.
Visit, "list," ‘n round appreciated!
Page 175 - Allan (Gunneral) at 4:43 PM: Ahhhhhh, the sound of an approaching train <whistle or horn> always puts a smile to the face! Don't hear any steamers ‘round here, but regularly hear the horns. We're just out of range of anything else . . . never get tired of hearing that sound.
We have several towns in Missouri where vineyards ‘n wineries are the feature attractions. The most prominent of
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox. The sun is out (for the first time in abt. a week) - nice to see it. What snow we have is now boiler plate because of the cold. Gas remains at $3.09 (see, I checked the number this time!)
Let's see what's going on.
Nick? Went through something similar awhile back - I believe that the bureaucratic hurdles are put up to see how much we can take to get that which rightfully is ours! ‘Nuff said!
Both he and Allan had comments on mining in Wales. Allan had the correct answer for Cousin Jacks.
Pete was by with pictures and observations - restoration shed? I think I need Class 3 repairs. Always glad to see the Duchess.
Fergie is at Sunday River - we'll warn the moose to be on the lookout!
Lars has visited as well. Good to hear from you, too.
Rob was by with CPR shots - the elusive empress has been captured on film - good job! One of my better finds was the remaining CPR E units running in deep snow in the Republic of Vermont - still remember getting them - OMG was it cold! Yes, Boris, I'll try and remember to bring the picture to the Rendezvous.
DD1 was in with comments and a list of dates.
Chris - if you are out there - happy birthday.
OSP has lined up some interesting ‘moom pichers at the Theatuh. The first Slap Shot is arguably the best hockey picture ever made. Also thanks for the Museum photos and the rerun of the shots at Montreal. The New Haven I5 poster is a keeper and enlarge the circus cover and check out what's running in the background on the NH -appreciated that one as well. BTW, your Yogi-ism for the day is the truth.
Work safe
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Ruth, are you back already or didn't you go? Anyway, I'll have some French Toast, powder sugar and syrup for breakfast. Add to that a large "spiked" OJ, coffee and a huge cheese danish!
I am just stopping by to let you know I survived the surgery last Friday and what caused the most pain was this gas they pump into your body for that kind of surgery. But it is almost all gone now. I'll be back later today (daytime)trying to catch up.
Since our friend, the Hall Monitor, has decided what is the classic, "Golden", era of railroading I better follow his orders and show a picture of a classic train. I might have a different opinion but that will be for another day.
Eric
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Bossman, set ‘em up on the Larsman ‘n I'll have a mugga Joe with a jolt ‘n a number three from the menu board. Boris, I see you've been a good monstAH ovAH the weekend, so go ahead ‘n take one of those LARGE PPF jars . . . then go directly to your shed! <uh oh>
Not the worst of weekends heAH at the bAH, huh Even got a surprise visit from the guy called Nick. Been awhile - a long while. Would be a plus to have him reinstated, let's see what unfolds.
Pete, you are only kidding yourself IF you think that I'm gonna be worried ‘bout H&H. <hah> Those overly fed Teutonic "maidens" already have their eyes on Guido ‘n Louie - two of Vito's guyz . . . they aren't worried about anything othAH than ‘that' . . . HA! YOU are in deep, deep trouble. Heard from Sonia lately <uh oh>
A word from Eric! Great to see him back - but apparently he cannot distinguish between Da Bossman ‘n Ruth! Sorry, Cap'n Tom . . . <ha ha ha ha ha> My bet is once he CHECKS the posts, he'll pick up on it all . . . GREAT to have you on deck ‘n hope the recovery goes well!
Eric, you may want to take out that reference to our "hall monitor," for you KNOW how much a "challenge" can get one into deep, deep trouble.
Visits from all quartAHs since my last - ‘n good to see all youse guyz: Ron - Allan - Pete - Nick - Rob - Eric!!
Fine selections for the movie house - the Mrs. LOVES the Selleck guy; don't they ALL <geesh> Gotta figure out a way to get some closed-circuit-TV runnin' for the Emporium so those of us away from Mentor Village can enjoy the show!
I agree with Shane that the first Slap Shot had to be not only Da Best of hockey flicks, but maybe even of all sports movies. The 2nd one was "ok" ‘n missed the mark many times. Funny about the follow-ons, they either stand on their own or fall flat. I mean when "2" comes along, it's good in my mind IF you can enjoy it without knowing about "1." NowutImean Now, if you can, then having seen "1" makes it even more bettAH!
Fine spate of pix from Cap'n Tom - Pete ‘n Rob - really enjoyed ‘em all. Liked those mix ‘n match "jobbAHs" from Da Bossman too! Particularly the postAH with all those diesels!
One more day to go, then "my friend" departs for home . . . She really would like to stay, but "duty calls." <grin> Flying back this time - so no chance of an "escort" getting in the way.
Time for the arrival of the Larsman Mobile and more covAHs . . .
Western Pacific Color Pictorial, Vol 2
UP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment
Reading Trains & Trolleys
American Steam Finale - 1954-1970
SR150 The Southern Railway
Southern Pacific Film Archives (DVD
Until the next time!
Lars
Good Morning to all of you, and specially to Tom.
Who is behind the counter now? Looks like my favorite waitress is off today... I'll have cofee and english muffin please. How are you, my friends? I've been away for a very long time and I can see some new faces here now! Good! I got to run now but may be back soon.
See you later,
Chris F.
Some surprises these past couple of days <daze> with the return of Nick (nickinwestwales) - the good news from Eric (EricX2000) <spoke with him by fone today> ‘n the reappearance of "Our" Place's FIRST CUSTOMER - Chris Fournier (CFournier) up in Montréal! A tad overwhelming to say the least! <phew>
Anyway, thought I'd get a leg up on the ACKNOWLEDGMENTS before they stack up on me! <yikes>
Another reason for this Post is to get the material back to "normal" since Eric has "edited' an earlier Post which has of course "skewed" things along the line. <grin>
Monday - Jan 28th:
Page 175 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:46 AM: Petrol still holding at the $2.70 (rounded) mark up at "Collusion Corner." Temps are dropping, with yesterday's high just about 60 (F). <ugh> "They" are now saying snow is on the way. I'll believe it when Juneau ‘n I leave tracks behind us on our daily treks throughout the "mean streets" of our subdivision! <grin>
So tell us a bit about that electric running in the background of the "circus" train . . . long before the NH McGinnis era, eh
Fine inclusive Post with quarters ‘n a ROUND!
Page 175 - Eric (EricX2000) at 9 AM: And the news is good - the man is on the mend! However, he's a "gas MoSheen" or was!! <oooooooops>
Not to be concerned about the "Hall Monitor," as our policies ‘round here are pretty straight forward. We just ignore those who intrude upon us. Email is the better vehicle to "vent" than make a fool of one's self in the Ether . . .
Enjoyed our "chat" this morning! Always enjoy speaking with you. And am looking forward to a resumption of activity from our Resident Nocturnal Desert RETIRED Swede!
Nice looking Zephyr . . . haven't we seen that before Up close ‘n personal! <grin>
Page 175 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:09 AM: Good to have our Manager pay a call on this Monday . . . nice way to kick off the week!
One more day! What Thought "your friend" was leaving today . . . BUT, no problem - I'll look for her here at work on Wednesday. <grin>
Liked the Brit Southern locos - lookin' good! Nice spate of covers, as always!
Appreciate the round, chat ‘n support of the bar.
Page 175 - Chris (CFournier) at 10:13 AM: What's to say other than we're surprised! Your last visit here was on the 20th of September in 2005! Now that's a looooooooong time back. We've had "reports" of you being elsewhere on the Forums, which of course created all sorts of "wonder" . . . but as said to Nick, "that was then, and this is now."
Much has occurred along the way with changes all about. We've had Rendezvous I (Toronto) in May 2006 - Rendezvous II (St. Louis) in May 2007 and another planned for St. Louis this May as well.
Many have come ‘n gone . . . I believe CM3 Shane (coalminer3) ‘n Rob (trolleyboy) remembers you - perhaps Pete (pwolfe) ‘n Mike (wanswheel) as well. Everyone else is new since you departed. Our "regulars" are down to a handful, but we've kept our strength through quality over quantity . . . we're still at it!
If you plan on returning to the bar - suggest you check out Page One of this reborn Thread - then peruse the last 4 or 5 to get the "flavor" of it all. Oh yes, the link to our Original Thread <last Page> is:
http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587
Ask Boris for your stool - I'm sure he has it stored away in his shed. <uh oh>
Later!
Time again for an installment from our Blast from the Past Archives in the form of a Fallen Flag Passenger Road . . .
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #32
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 151, Feb18th, 2006 on the Original Thread>
Norfolk & Western (N&W)
Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:
Headquarters: Roanoke, VA Mileage: 1950: 2,129 Locomotives in 1963: Diesel: 610 Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars: 75,621 Passenger cars: 251
Principal routes in 1950: Lambert's Point (Norfolk), VA-Columbus, OH Portsmouth-Cincinnati, OH Lynchburg, VA-Durham, NC Roanoke-Hagerstown, MD Roanoke-Winston-Salem, NC Walton-Bristol, VA Bluefield, WV-Norton, VA
Passenger trains of note: Pocahontas (Norfolk-Cincinnati & Columbus) Birmingham Special (New York-Birmingham, AL; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol) Cavalier (Norfolk-Cincinnati) Pelican (New York-New Orleans, LA; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol) Powhatan Arrow (Norfolk-Cincinnati) Tennessean (New York-Memphis, TN; joint with PRR and SR; operated by N&W Lynchburg-Bristol) Cannon Ball (Norfolk-New York; joint with ACL; RF&P; and PRR; operated by N&W Norfolk-Petersburg) Of Note: In 1964, the N&W added the Wabash and Nickel Plate road to its system along with the Columbus-Sandusky line of the PRR, which the PRRR sold to the N&W. In 1981, the N&W added selected lines of the Illinois Terminal RR to its system. This Fallen Flag focuses on the pre-1964 N&W.
Some drumheads of the N&W:
Enjoy! Tom
A pint of Bathams please TOM, I see you will be behind the bar until Wednesday. Guess I am too late for a free breakfast on Rob
TOM Two more good films on at the Emporium this week, with the prequel to Stone Cold in Night Passage and Slap Shot 2 two films I have not seen. Then the Stooges trying their hand as fishermen.
It would be interesting to see what goes on in Hermann on a Saturday at Ocktoberfest with the patrons waiting for a late running Amtrak train as you say defiantly to be avoided. It will be good to go to Stone Hill again when the weather improves a bit.
Glad you enjoyed the photos, the Duchess is a great locomotive, and it should not be long now before she reappears in the streamlined form.
When I was a kid my grandfather worked part-time, after his retirement, in a department store, which had a travel agency. The travel agency had a very large poster that was used to show all the train departures from Rugby Midland station, the same poster was displayed at the station. After the timetable change each year and the poster was changed, my grandfather was able to get the old one, it was marvelous, with it showing the time and the stops of each train with the name trains in bold letters. I wish I still had them today but they are long gone I'm afraid.
Yes I remember Chris; I know he treated me very well when I first called in the bar.
Many thanks for the Norfolk and Western Fallen Flag and drumheads. Roanoke is a famous name in railroading, I had heard of it before I came to the U.S.A.
I have to ask about the Banner Blue drumhead.
NICK What a great and good surprise to see you back in the bar. Really sorry to read about your father-in-law, Alan.
It certainly is the end of an era with Tower Colliery closing.
Really hope you are able to come to the bar on a regular basis again, we have missed you.
ROB Hope your dad is getting better after the oral surgery.
Many thanks for the kind words on my photos over the weekend. I am really glad I brought the photo albums over with me.
I remember reading about the ‘Empress of Agincourt in the bar it is good to see a photo of her in action, enjoyed the two other classic diesels as well .Thanks for sharing.
I did think of asking the Mentor Musket Corps to help out in escorting that certain lady, but they were busy, as one of BORIS's helium filled friends had escaped and the Corps were on Mentor Mountain trying to shoot it down before it got into the Zeppelin's flight path.
CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos of the Duchess. The engines that worked the Stratford-on Avon specials and some fantastic trains that ran on a itinerary from London Marylebone to Sheffield via High Wycombe, Banbury, up the ex Great western main line to Birmingham then the Midland line through Derby and round the ‘old line' at Sheffield so the locomotive faced south again. It was a tour of over 300 miles by steam and often meant a 22 hour day traveling from Rugby with a 3am start to be able to get to Marylebone ready for departure time, that was when the was a night Irish Mail ran. The first part of the journey was crewed by men from the ex Great Central Neasden shed and were very good drivers and fireman. We had one trip with the Duchess which climbed Saunterton grade from a standing start that produced almost record horsepower from the loco, the sound was fantastic.
I noticed the electric in the circus train cover.
ERIC Glad the operation went well and you will soon be free of pain.
Looking forward to your visit when you have caught up and great photo of the Silver Charger
LARS I'm afraid the romantic attachment between H&H and Guido & Louie is no more. G&L asked the ‘maidens' out on a double date Saturday night (I suspect as a loyalty test set by Vito The
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, young man,it's time for me to have pne of my favorites, Rumpsteak Café de Paris, again. Yepp, with a cold Keith's!
Good to be back after my surgery. I want to thank everyone for all well wishes I've recevied. Everything went well and I am fit for fight again!
First a Belated Happy Birthday to Chris!!! Hope we’ll see you again soon!Tom – Nice photos from the St. Louis Museum of Transportation! A Big Boy is never wrong! It certainly would be nice to see one in operation! I missed the Cotton belt Snow Plow last May! Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range #502 is something for James (wherever he is??) from his neighborhood. C & I M is a good looking locomotive! And you managed to catch Stealthy Pete! I am impressed! What did you do, poured glue on the ground? Montréal’s Central Station that I missed! It looks like a classy station. Too bad we never made it there. Plus a number of Streamlined posters, including one from Spain (not streamlined), some drumheads and Magazine covers! The last cover shows loading of a Circus train. I just remembered I have some photos of exactly that. Loading a circus train. I have to find them. Good movies, exspecially the first one, Night Passage! I’ll see if I can get the brunette to come along. Maybe you have seen that Zephyr once or twice before. It’s hard to know. 27 times?CM3 – No quiz? Of course there is a quiz and I knew that you knew where that photo was taken! You know that part of the country. I am sure you know exactly where it was taken (what mile post?). I know basically only on what line it was taken. DL – I am glad they saved the the BR film! Old films like that should always be saved for the future! Lars – Interesting book covers and a DVD case! I’ll pick the Union Pacific Diesels 1934-1959 this time! To that I’ll add Western Pacific in Color! UP and WP kind of belong together.I guess you are trying to tell us something by reposting Doug’s post from almost a year ago! Hmm, pregnant and a day with “my friend”!?! HmmmDistinguish between Da Bossman ‘n Ruth? I thought “her” voice sounded kind of harsh. It was all that gas they filled me up with last Friday that confused me. It is still leaking out in different places.American Steam Finale 1954-1970 looks like a good one! Rob – So Toronto is the only city with a classic streetcar system today? Light rail is nice, but not quite what I call a streetcar system. Your grandad took nice photos! I especially like the CN C-liner! Or the three B&W CPR photos! I guess they are from the 50’s or early 60’s. Mike – Thank you for the link to the History of New Sweden! There is a park in Wilmington, DE, where there are some old stuff saved. If I remember right the park is in the location of Fort Christina. I have some photos from the park somewhere. Ron – I knew from the beginning that you are a nice guy! A Cracker Barrel fan! What can possibly go wrong? No, let’s talk about something else (things can go wrong). For instance that strange vehicle hanging from a rail with a propeller. No, it doesn’t make sense to me. Fish is not for me, it is cat food.Pete – Glad you received your scanner! If you have any questions I’ll be happy to (try to) answer them. That first photo looks great! Nice photos from Arnstadt! Allan seems to be traveling a lot! Nice photos of the Duchess of Hamilton! How many coaches did it pull up that grade? Also nice to see “Sir Nigel Gresley”! The paint looks very nice! Is the top one, #4498, the same as the other one in blue, #60007?Fergie – I thought it might be some kind of cover. I was afraid they had replaced the windows with some plastic. Too sad it has to be done.Allan – I feel a lot better now and I am thinking about what I am going to eat when I get to Cracker Barrel in a few days! Mmmm. Nick – Good to see you again, Sir! Sorry to learn about your father-in-law. Looking forward to see photos of your new layout when you get that far!
Good evening Leon , good gawd gertie is that an insect bite on your neck Oh I see you and Hilda are together again <wow>How are the compund fractures suffered by Vito's boys oh, well non life threatning is good I suppose. Just a Keith's I think tonight , thank-you.
Pete-Nice pics of the Sir Nigel
I think you need to go over your basic physics again , musket balls & black powder should NEVER be mixed or pointed at anything filled by Boris espeacially since Boris often confuses helium and hydrogen Then the invoices pile up
Thanks for the concern about dad he's fine , the stitches are more a bother than the work but they come out tomorrow so he should be off his gruel , and water diet.
Also I have warned you constently about allowing H&H to double date , you know what happened last time, when they went to Oktoberfest with Leon and Boris ....
Eric-Nice to see that you are on your feet again , go see Boris he may have a use for the extra gas <uh oh >.Your right light rail systems don't cut it like the classic streetcar systems.
Loved the Zepher photo
Glad you likied gramp's pictures. Now thiose are shots left to me , i knwo for a fact that he did not shoot them as I don't think he knew which end of a camera to hold,but he always had a love of railways, never modeled but just liked them,so I'm happy to keep them. I'd love to know who the actual shooter is /was as he / she had one heck of a good eye.
Lars-Great covah's sir here's hoping that stealthy Pete dosn't know which flight the fair maiden is returnig on. >uh oh >
Tom-Good to know that you are pacing yourself,nice round of drumheads from the N&W. I imagine that our coal minning friend will have more on them again. Looking forward to that Some heart stopping supprises the last couple daze as well , good things though, I hope.
Chris F-Hello sir good to see you again. I hope that this is a mere preview of whats to come
CM3-I'm glad that you liied the classic CPR shots. The Empress out on the road was an odity. She just does not look the same anymore, chopnosed and sitting in The Elgin County Museum.I've seen a similar snow bound shot of one of the CPR E's when it was in commuter service in Montreal , it was pulling into the station with snow literally up past it's trucks !
Good day to Tom and all at the bar by the tracks. The usual round all around. Pete, Allan: Glad you liked the railplane story. Nice pics of the British rails. The "kids"(32 &33) have been out celebrating Mardi Gras. My daughter is riding her 4-wheeler in the local parade.
Happy birthday W.A. Mozart(Jan 27). I hope the railroad events of 1935 may open a niche you may not have thought of before. Nice thing about Wikipedia is the ease in which links can be accessed without the need to search many sites.
For Rob and others interested in trolleys. You have seen the stud contact system for model railroad track used by Marklin. Did you know that it has a prototype that is still in use today on the Bordeaux tram rail system. Click on this site for the full story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stud_contact_system.
According to the late rail historian Harre Demoro, the pantograph was invented by the Key System shops for their commuter trains in the East Bay section of the San Francisco Bay Area in California. They appear in photographs of the first day of service in 1903. For many decades thereafter, the same diamond shape was used by electric rail systems around the world, and remains in use by some today. And I thought the Europeans invented it.
Nick from West Wales: You are so right about Jacqueline Dupree. She was the greatest but I didn't know about Gus or the connection with Keith Richards and Mick Jagger. Wow! What a lot of talent I love classical music and also Jazz.
Eric: Nice looking Zepher. Hope you're feeling better after the procedure. Of all the restaurant around, Cracker Barrel IMHO is the best of them all. Did you know that Cracker Barrel is owned and operated by Dan Evins and that he owns 570 stores in 41 states and has no plans to franchise.
Lars: Nice looking collection of RR covers.
The Events of 1935
January 2- Chicago and North Western Railway begins "400" passenger t The pantograph,.
Good evening again Leon. i think another keith's is required oh and here's a sack o coins to put in Herr wurlitzer since Ron has pointed out that it's Mozarts natel day the selections shall be "The Magic Flute"
Tom-Just have to mention that I love your new top o the post pic. Nice shot of the preserved CNR oil elelctric locomotive
Ron-Interesting info on the stud system and on the invention of the pantograph. I too thought it was a European creation. they certainly have fell in love with it .Loved this weeks railway history post as well. Good job sir
Here's couple more of Gramps pics.
The E unit 1800 on the point of a passenger train. According to the caption on the back of the photo it's taken at Sudbury Ontario, far from it's normal stomping grounds.
A CPR C-liner leading a train near the Cominco refinery near Trail BC
another Cp c-liner
enjoy
Evenin' Gents!Leon, a pitcher of Mike's Hard Lime, and a four-cheese pizza, if you would. Yeah, I did have a pleasant B-day, thank you, Leon. BTW - here's a jar of PPF for you-know-who, and some Nacho-Cheese Bugles for Spike and the rest of the "critter menagerie!" Before I get down to my serious business, I'd like to address the room in general, if I might?A collective thank-you to all the well-wishers this Saturday past; I'll try to ping all of you individually in the post, but in case I miss anyone, let me assure you that I deeply appreciate ALL the sentiments. Those who've been keeping up with my blog will have an idea of what's been occupying all my time since I was last here, and everyone else are welcome and encouraged to visit my blog {linked in my profile here} to answer questions / satisfy curiosity. You lot are something else, and you'll have ample warning if and when I ever have to leave this place - my time here already, though short, has awakened many dormant memories I should have re-lived sooner, but never got the chance to until I came here. For that, I thank all and sundry for accepting me here, and I sincerely hope ours will be a long, fruitful, and mutually-enjoyable Journey together - I'll try to be more "regular" when I can.
February's tab is on ME - have at it ALL in Mass Quantities, Gents!!!Starting off as usual with the Kudos:Wanswheel {Mike} - There's plenty of blue ink Mate - the only obstacle preventing me from heavily draining my stash is the old "hours-in-the-day-night" mess!! As for your Unipac question, yes I've jokingly used that term as modern-day slang-reference, especially when I first saw Uncle Pete's "Heritage" SD-70ace MoP 1982! Yes, yes, yes - on Kirkwood Hill, to boot. Can't really comment about the Tet offensive, other than noting it happened whilst I was entering this world.........
Shane - liked the pic of the National Limited, eh? I've seen a couple color shots of it somewhere; I'll see if I can find them. Mopac steam? Yeah, there's a ton of fascinating info on the subject, a lot of which will hopefully be fodder for some of my future postings here. Know now that I'm a born sucker for all the early E's, wth MoP's beauties heading the list, followed closely by Uncle Pete's E-2's. Love the great historical data you post - NEVER a dull read!!! Finally, thanks for the Birthday sentiment!
Cap'n Tom - great National Limited info, my friend. I was fortunate to ride it from Union Station to Kansas City in the late summer of 1978, just before Union Station closed in it's original incarnation and service. Ties in well with your bit about Amtrak's 3rd Missouri train; I've heard bits and pieces here and there on the radio about it, but not much in-depth yet. When the River Cities was running in the mid-late '80's, we did have three dailies between KC/St.L, but the *** bean-counters dropped the axe in short order. Thanks for the WP&Y link; I'll poke around all of it when I can -it's already bookmarked. More Kirkwood material will be coming, and special thanks for the Ocean car review, fabulous B&O "Original" Natonal Limited info, Swiss dome car, museum pics {the SEPTA PCC really stuck a chord in me - I can still see it clearly when it was forlornly parked across Barrett Station in Doc Robert's "bone-front yard," awaiting salvation that didn't seem likely}. Your "mystery bus" was built in 1948 by Twin Coach along with five others for Mopac's onetime interurban subsidiary in Texas. RS-3 4502 is just simply too gorgeous for words............
Rob - haven't hit the Museum yet, but will when time / weather allow. Never underestimate {or arm-wrestle} a gandy-dancer; they really DO have strong arms!! As for the pink cobblestones, I got the chance to visit the quarries where they were mined {about halfway to De Soto, on the MoP's River Line}, and both pink and the more common grey-blue streaks of granite were visible on the long-silent walls. MoP E units combine two great subject near and dear to me, so 'nuff said! Really enjoyed the oddball diesel and Canadian diesel pics tremendously, and 10-Q for the B-day ping! I'll be here when I can...........
Lars - I hear you - and I'm rather time-constrained myself these days!! As always, LOVE the pics-n-stuff; glad I'm among several other "photo pack-rats" around here......DL-UK - Mopac Chris, or Chris works just fine, Mate - glad to meetcha at "last!" As I think I've mentioned earlier, I've got UK blood in me too, so I'm always happy to meet another "cousin!" I totally agree with you about the vintage pics - I myself shake my head just looking at all the stuff I personally saw - think of all the rest that I didn't see, during the same time.Pete - you're too kind, sir. Glad to share the info on the Eagle cars; such stuff always fascinates me. I look for the old road names too, and these days I'm struck by how many have vanished - with shippers and private owners now making up the bulk of the rolling-stock we see today. Glad you liked the E unit history, plenty more in the wings. Don't sell your pics short, Mate - the rotary pic looked just fine to me!! LOVED the German steam, Museum, Bittern, and Duchess pics!!! Thanks for the B-day ping too, Mate - I also enjoyed Ron's info!Eric - yep, us Night loons are a breed apart!! MoP had a pretty wild infatuation with tender-truck boosters, wich I'll get to eventually - for now, chew on the idea of #4000, and 2-10-2 # 1729 both having tenders with TWO boosters installed!! FYI, the caboose in the shot I posted was one of the 1937 Magor-built crummies which are favorties of mine. Was that shot of #9908 in honor of my recent you-know-what? If so, Thank You, kind Sir! If not, Thank You anyway!! {I know you pinged my B-day belatedly - while I missed it here TOTALLY - I'm just indulging in my usual teasing.}Allan - g'Day and thanks, Mate!! The "Sir" question was for the Sir Elton John vid on the same page. Thank You for the B-Day wish; even though I can't be around as much as I 'd like, I'm not letting go of this place........
Ron {DD1} - hope the recovery's coming along, and THANK YOU for the B-Day info; I was aware of Paul Newman, but the rest is delightfully new!! {Heh, and didya notice how I discovered your name "out of the blue" - I might not be here all the time, but I'm 100% aware and observant, when I am...... }Jan - I think we've already met, but glad to again!
Salutations Tom and fellow brethren....
Chris!!!! Sorry for being three days overdue....
May I please have a cup of black Java, those two sandwiches and a doughnut, thanks...
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer...
siberianmo 01-23-2008, 12:58 PM: Thanks Tom....very much appreciated!
siberianmo 01-23-2008, 2:20 PM: That's some awesome collection that you have there matey!
coalminer3 01-23-2008, 3:45 PM: Super Chief...good choice! How did the Olympian and Olympian Hiawatha compare to these you think?
Da Larsman 01-23-2008: 4:48 PM: Thanks Mate, very much appreciated! Work seem to start to catch up again and some days your're just too to play around on the cyber waves. Still trying to get back as much as possible here any way, need to keep the intake to an for us all acceptable level, right? Nice covers!
EricX2000 01-23-2008, 7:40 PM: Thanks Mate, very much appreciated!
siberianmo 01-23-2008, 8:11 PM: Now, I liiiike these pics...!
pwolfe 01-23-2008, 9:33 PM: Thanks Mate, very much appreciated! Always enjoy your pics...
Fergmiester 01-24-2008, 12:28 AM: Thanks Mate, very much appreciated! Is that Canadian National equipment?
Gunneral 01-24-2008, 1:31 AM: Thanks Mate, very much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed the pics...
trolleyboy 01-24-2008, 3:38 AM: Thanks Mate, very much appreciated! As far as I know the small people and animals stayed away....
EricX2000 01-24-2008, 5:08 AM: Thanks again! I need to go back and look.... Great pics!
DL - UK 01-24-2008, 3:06 PM: That road trip was nothing then, if he saw action in WWI...wow! Would love to have one of those old BSA's, AJS', Triumph's, Norton's, Harley's or Indian's...and a Stratocruiser....Boeing 377, along with Lockheed Constellation my two favorite airliners...style and class!
Da Larsman 01-24-2008, 5:14 PM: More nice covers...!
siberianmo 01-24-2008, 9:00 PM: Awesome pics!
trolleyboy 01-25-2008, 3:27 AM: Nice pics matey....I've always liked the C-Liner.
wanswheel 01-25-2008, 3:36 AM: Nice pic and some more links to check out I see...
wanswheel 01-25-2008, 4:08 PM: I really wish that this pic was in color...wow! I wonder if you'd get any passengers, if you'd run a train like that today? Probably would cost a few $$$$ to build new, if you had the plans for it.... would $5.000.000 be enough...hmmmm.
Da Larsman 01-25-2008, 4:24 PM: Nice covers as always. The WP is interesting....
DD1 01-25-2008, 4:32 PM: Your mooore than welcome to keep the fish mate....
siberianmo 01-25-2008, 10:24 PM: Steeeeaaammm.....mmmmm....drooool! Great Pics!
pwolfe 01-26-2008, 1:40 AM: Is that the "Silver Fox" in the picture?
pwolfe 01-26-2008, 3:18 PM: Keep those pics coming mate!
siberianmo 01-26-2008, 6:37 PM: Nice pics! Montréal's Central Station seems to be an modern station, or am I wrong?
siberianmo 01-26-2008, 10:33 PM: Looooove those train ads...! More please!
pwolfe 01-27-2008, 12:50 AM: LMS Duchess class 4-6-2 No. 46229 Duchess of Hamilton....now we're talking great british steam..... Great pics!<
Tuesday in mid-continent USA where the winter warnings are "up" for the possibility of "measurable snow" by week's end. I'll believe it when Juneau ‘n I trudge thru it!
Coffee's freshly ground ‘n brewed - pastries stocked in The Mentor Village Bakery case - and our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts lined up on our Menu Board! So, what's the delay <grin>
The winning entry for our Name the Safe Contest is: <drumroll>
Cash Stasher - submitted by CM3 Shane (coalminer3)!
Prize: A round-trip aboard Zeppelin One for pick-up ‘n delivery of those rather hard to find brews from "the continent." Mid-nite departure from the Zeppodrome. Stateroom accommodations for two included.
Many thanx to Lars - Rob - Mike <disqualified, but . . . > - Pete ‘n Allan for participating! One free super-sized mugga Joe with a jolt <or BK splash> at a time of your choosing!
Tuesday - Jan 28th:
Page 175 - Pete (pwolfe) at 5:42 PM: I think pandemonium might be a good description for a crowd of inebriated folks waiting for an interminably late Amtrak train after a day of "festing" in Hermann. <yikes>
Can you imagine what a collection you'd have IF those timetables from your youth were in your possession NOW Yeah, I can appreciate the feeling . . .
Hoping that CM3 Shane will come through with an answer to your question regarding the N&W drumhead "Banner Blue."
The only thing I'm not enthralled with about those A4s is the "face' looks rather "plain"- fine looking MoSheens from side views though. Fine spate of fotos, Mate!
Mentor Musket Corps! Will it ever end So those shots I heard were . . . . now I get it! <grin>
A fine < I3 > Post from our Bar Chandler!
Page 175 - Eric (EricX2000) at 6:08: PM: The "grape vine" has it that the brunette is en route Phoenix for the Super Bowl with Mountain Man Mike <Proprietor of the Second Class Saloon>. Just thought you'd like to know . . . <uh oh>
Lions ‘n Tigers eat "red" meat - aren't they cats <grin>
My guess is we've seen the last of our young friend, James - However as demonstrated these past couple of days, SURPRISE is all a part of this experience in the Ether!
Keeping Stealthy Pete within view wasn't quite as difficult as it had been - after all, I had the keys to the car AND the "path" to the TrainWreck Saloon <next day>!
Nice looking interurban - which I believe we've seen before, but well worth viewing again!
Appreciate the < I3 > Post from our recovering Resident Desert RETIRED Swede!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee please (New England Four Seasons Blend will be fine); round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Weather is cloudy today, rain later, then a 35 degree drop in temperature and snow. Gas holding at $3.09.
I won? A Zeppelin trip with a stateroom? Excellent - Hope Boris uses the helium. One question, however, is a Zepellinette the same as a Zephyrette?
Mentor Musket Corps - probably a auxiliary of the Mentor Fusiliers who have rendered noble service during past darting activities. Well, maybe the Musket Corps is out because the Fusiliers are still locked up - I'll have to send a carrier pigeon to the top of the mountain.
Let's see what's happening today.
Jan visited - nice to see you here.
Pete - I appreciated youir reminiscence of your see the Midlands tour. The Gresley shots did enlarge. We used to do trips like that in the long ago. Tried to get a train out of Boston with a drawing room parlor so we could have breakfast or lunch w/o interruption. Then a train with a prlor and a diner for activities on the way home. It made for a long day, but, as you suggest, it was well worth the effort. I know, Boris it was before Amtubes and always late trains.
DD1 - Good stuff as always - China Clipper? Something I wish I could have traveled on.
Eric is back - Hope you are feeling better and thanks for the "Silver Charger" picture.
Lars was by - Yikes! Another WP book to consider. I have the Pentrex item as separate tapes (I know, its so 20th century technology) Go Giants!
CFournier! Holy cow! Truly a blast from long ago. You can see there are a few barflies left from days gone by (lol).
Rob - Agree with your comments re chop nosing power. It just doesn't look right sometimes. I enjoyed the shot of CP1800 which was way off its usual territory.
MoPac was by with information and pictures as well. I remember photographing RI 630 in service at La Salle St. Something lese for the rendezvous.
Old Rivets in Bicentennial livery - Gad!
OSP provided some interesting information on the N&W. "Banner Blue" was, of course, a Wabash train which went over in the merger. IIRC, Green Frog has a tape on the Wabash which shows some good color footage of the "Banner" which had hw cars for a long time after the merger. We must see is we can find this piece in the vaunted video vault. Boris, ready a box lunch and the carbide lights - we're going hunting!
Back to when the Wabash was still the Wabash (c. 1950), the "Banner Blue" was an afternoon train between Chicago. No. 11 departed Chicago (Dearborn Station) at 11:00 a.m. with a 4:35 p.m. arrival in St. Louis. No. 10 left St. Louis at 12:00 noon and arrived in Chicago at 5:40 p.m.
Consist for both trains was: Parlor-lounge; diner-lounge; reclining seat chair cars, and a drawing room observation parlor car.
Two former Wabash trains remained right before Amtrak. N&W trains 121 and 122, the "Blue Bird," carried coaches between St. Louis and Chicago. A diner lounge ran on this train between Decatur and Chicago. Trains 301 and 304, carried the venerable "Wabash Cannon Ball" name. This was a buffet coach and coach operation between Detroit and St. Louis.
Source for above is Official Guides.
Hope that answers the questions that folks asked.
Morning Tom , I might as well have that BK splash now along with a number three. Here's another sack'o'coin for the coal scuttle as well Leon can pick his favourite dance tunes to play when he comes in this afternoon.<yikes> I hope the repair fund you set up with Chris will cover Leon's pention for the country line dancing, speacially since he's back in Hilda's good graces <uh oh >Musket fire on Mount Mentor , and it wasn't even the yearly darts tourney yet. thanks for the extra info on the CN77. It was a couple years ahead of it's time.A little known fact but when it was built it burnt bunker oil for fuel, imagine that.
Nice to know that our irregulars can still supprise us. it's what keeps us all reading along.
Chris-Glad you made it back in , fine spat of 40 year old babes I imagine waking up beside either H&H would render one almost speachless as well , or at least bound and gagged great way to wind up with the model 40 critter as well I'm actually afraid of what might happen should Nick and Chris be in the bar at the same time.Espeacially if they get into a battle of the bands. Oh yes Boris that might work , what a fine suit of armour you've made for yourself out of spikes spent quills and bed pans.
Great of you to have unwound the mystery of the bus.Are you sure that you haven't been to the msueum yet
Fergie's narrow gauger had many names over the years. It would have started out as a Newfoundland Railway unit. Then would have become a Canadian national unit then when CN spun them off they became Terra Transport right before the plug was pulled. Now alot of them have gone to south America on various narrow guage mountain lines down there.
Jan-Great to see you back in Mate and in fine inclusive form.It took me a bit but then I figured out that the times you quoted us as posting as were your time.I didn't think i had posted at 3 in the morning. oh well he shuffles over and asks for another BK splash.
oops just caught the coalminers prose ,so Tom I think a bit more rocket fuel is required.
Cm3-Yes the 1800 was indeed off it's usual run, though apparently in the 50's they did get some use on a Toronto to Thunder Bay express mail train. I'll ahve to go and look up the details , I may need to borrow Boris and a couple carbide lights for that as well.
I have to say that some chop-nosings suit,the CN rebuilds of the GP9's come to mine the cabs have an angled almost Alco look to the cab face.The Empress well it had a long long nose and the chopping did it no justice , but at least she survives though somewaht neutered. Elgin County wanted Her and got her on her retirement in the late 80's. She was supposed to be operational as they had at the time a fair bit of trackage ( now since removed but that's another story ) The kicker is she had suffered a catastrophic piston failure so the 251 was removed and the body resealed right before shipping.At the time the CPR said that they would send a timed out 251 to the museum once they had purged all the Alco /MLW's from their roster. Unfortunatly the timeline was right when CP was horribly power short so all the surving C424's ,RS18's and M630's and 636's they could muster were pressed back into service.The long and the short no motor ever materialized and now all the CP Alco's are off the roster.
By the way Zepplinettes are most definatly not the same as Zepherttes, unless you enjoy seeing H&H in those costumes. Enjoy your flight
Doesn't seem like a "normal" day at the bar without our Manager, does it But the Assistant came by, so all's well at the Saloon by the Siding!
Need to make mention that our 3,500th Reply on our reborn Thread was made by Jan (JanOlov) this morning! A dram of your choosing on the house, Mate!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #67
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 239, Feb 6th, 2006, on the Original Thread>
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1948 advertisement in my personal collection.
On your S.P. trip to California See twice as much for the same rail fare Go one way - return another Here's an exciting travel bargain for your California trip: Southern Pacific offers you four routes. Choose one S.P. route to California, a different S.P. route returning, and you'll see twice as much for the same roundtrip rail fare from most points! You'll ride on some of these famous trains: Our Sunset Limited and Argonaut, via romantic New Orleans to Los Angeles across the great Southwest (Sunset Route). Our new Golden State, 45-hour extra fast, extra fare streamliner, and our Imperial, Chicago to Los Angeles (Golden State Route). Our sleek 50 ¾ hour extra fare streamliner City of San Francisco, and our Overland, Chicago to San Francisco via spectacular Salt Lake and Reno (Overland Route). And our Cascade and Beaver through the evergreen Northwest (Shasta Route). And on your 470 mile scenic trip between Los Angeles and San Francisco you have our exciting streamlined Daylights and our famous all-Pullman streamlined Lark that the movie stars ride. Send for the guidebook to plan with.
S*P
The friendly Southern Pacific
Some drumheads of the SP:
Quick lunch splash for me, Leon - double bacon-cheeseburger, loaded fries and a Michelob draught, please? BORIS!!!!Stop that, wilya please? It hasn't been THAT long.......... {but I still appreciate the ah, enthusiasm.} . And no, {ouch!} I haven't {Ouch!} forgotten about {ouch, Ouch!} good 'ol Spike either {Ouch-Sonofafrigginhillary-OUCH!!}..... So, let's get down to business, what?Jan - no apologies necessary for me "missed" Anniversary, Mate - I wasn't even here to celebrate it!!! These things happen when you get to be my age....... I obviously spent WAY too much time on a certain BEER LINE , but Drummers will be Drummers you know.......... Cap'n Tom - in all honesty {if not modesty}, I simply try to walk it like I talk it, my Great Friend. After a good 20+ years of public performance, I'd like to think that I've learned something about pleasing an audience, but it's always nice to be reminded every now and again...... "Not a blog-follower" doesn't wash with me, Mate - you're just plain lazy, 'cos you seem to appreciate some of the SAME "work" I do here, as I also do "elsewhere"........ {Yes, I'm teasing, Tom!!} Regarding Nick, I'll happily "cut heads" with anyone willing to do the do with me; doesn't matter if it's music, train, or conversation-based; fun is FUN, period. Haven't heard about any resto plans / news on our "Magic Bus," but I'll make an effort to get the latest lowdown when I get back up there sometime SOON. Unless YOU lot here keep sidetracking me with your own bloody Museum photos!!!Shane - grweat info, as always. Can't go wrong with the "St. Louis Blues," but you probably already know that, right? "Old Rivets" in Bi-Cen drag doesn't phaze me in the least - I've been "numb" since I met Phyllis Diller AND Joanie Rivers in the same year!!Rob - ah, my Dear Old "Rattletrap-Chap" - what can I say? I did mention that I literally grew up in the Transport Museum when I started posting here, but it's still true that I haven't visited my second childhood home yet - I'm just plain lucky to retain some intimate knowledge acquired many moons ago {meaning that I actually UNDERSTOOD the exhibit captions I was reading!} Call it a productive strain of ADD, if you like. You'll be the first to know when I finally make it back home, camera in tow - stay tuned!!Since I'm not used to Rampaging in the daylight, the following ought to make sense:Dig them crazy WHITE bugboards - who was in charge of the restoration - and what were they drinking?THIS is my idea of a Tastefully Mature Lady.........Hey!! Product of "Universal HEALTH CARE," right? {Or "Assisted-Living Facilities," take your pick}Okay, okay - I'll quit quaffing the fire-water for a bit..........Until Next, Mates!!
A pint of Batham's please TOM.
ERIC Glad everything went well and you are feeling much better now.
It would be good if you can find your photos of the circus train being loaded, I don't suppose that there are many circus trains that run nowadays.
I'm afraid I don't know how many coaches the Duchess had on that day, I would have thought about 11.
Yes 4498 is the same locomotive as 60007. The LNER had a strange numbering system in fact the A4s were in 4 different number groups although there were only 35 of them. In 1946 the LNER had a renumbering scheme and the A4s became No 1 to 34(the 35th A4 had been destroyed in a bombing raid on York during the war), even in this renumbering A4 No1 was not the first one built, that was No14 Silver Link. With nationalization in 1948 British Railways added 60000 to the LNER engine numbers. I think Allan could add some more to this.
Great photo of the Chicago South Shore car.
So you think there was a message in Lars encore Saturday HMMMMMMMM, could be.
ROB Glad you dad is getting on OK he will feel a lot better getting off that diet.
Poor old BORIS is not having a lot of luck with his inflatable ‘friends' lately, first Spike and now this. I agree any extra gas should not be sent his way as now he is back on the large PPF jars he has enough of his own.
Many thanks for sharing those great photos of your granddad.
Thanks for the info on the ‘Empress'. Real glad I did not win the contest if H&H are the Zeppelinettes
RON Many thanks for the link to the stud contact system; I see in the link there was another link that told of its use in Wolverhampton in the West Midlands of England, I found it very interesting.
I too did not know about the invention of the pantograph.
Really enjoyed reading about the events from January 1935. In the last couple of years they have re-laid some track on a short portion of the Lynton and Barnstable railway and running narrow gauge trains.
The Glasgow Subway is known as the ‘Clockwork Orange' due to the color of the cars.
CHRIS Great to see you in the bar again. Glad you are enjoying the photos.
Yes I enjoy reading about the E Unit and the ALCO early diesels, I though there was a look of the early American diesels on certain of the early British diesels. A photo of one of the ‘Deltics', probably along with the ‘Western' class Britain's favorite diesel class. I would be interested to know if you think there is an American look about the loco (apart from the headcode box on the front.)
The preserved first production Deltic D9000 Royal Scots Grey. The 'Thistle' emblem is the headboard for the Flying Scotsman train used by BR in diesel days.
You asked to let you know if I have seen any interesting locomotives in Jeff City. The only one I have seen is one of the locos working the local freight which is UP #613, which looks an older locomotive.
Many thanks for the great photos and the entertaining descriptions loved the comment about #630. I bet # 1134 was built many moons ago.
JAN Great to see you in the bar. Glad you are enjoying the photos and thanks for the kind words.. on posting the 3,500th reply at the bar
In the photo the locomotive is the A4 Bittern painted to represent Silver Link, the first A4 built. There were 4 A4s named with the silver theme to tie in with the Silver Jubilee express from London to Newcastle-on-Tyne. The other ‘Silver' A4s were (with their BR numbers).
60015 Quicksilver.
60016 Silver King
60017 Silver Fox.
Yes I think the Duchess's are my favorite locomotives
Leon, a plain ham sandwich and two Keith's would be perfect. Thank you!
Kind of busy day today! Very nice indeed.
Rob – Maybe your grampa knew more about photography than you knew about him! But regardless who took the photos, they are great anyway! I can see that Ron has already given you the info on who invented the pantograph for railroads/streetcars. Nice photos of the C-liners and the E unit! Ron – Good to see you again! I am just fine, thanks! Removed the bandaids today and I could hardly find the scars from the surgery! Just three very tiny holes and one a little bit bigger. It’s amazing what they can do today! Yes, I was quite involved with Cracker Barrel four-five years ago. I was featured on their website as a very, very regular customer and also in the local paper here in Phoenix. Your list over railroad events for all “your” years is growing. Chris – You are back! Two boosters! I did not even know such a thing excisted. Must have added quite a bit of extra traction! Especially with a full tender. I must admit that I did not even know why I posted a photo of #9908. Just felt like it. Those were kind of special kind of trains! But I would say it was in honor of your belated Birthday!!!Some nice photos of good locomotives! Especially the GG1!Is that BiPolar locomotive the one at St. Louis Museum of Transportation? It doesn’t look like it and I can’t recognize the surroundings. The last picture was taken earlier or it is showing another BiPolar. JanOlov – I agree, today’s designers should look back on what was modern yesteryear and take the best from it when they design new cars and locomotives today. Tom – I am glad the Cash Stasher won and not Manager Lars’ Nessie the Lock Master won. I was going to suggest exactly that name when he took it from me. Of course the brunette is on her way to Phoenix! What did you expect? I’ll take care of Mountain Man Mike when he gets here! Throw some fish to a Tiger and I am sure it will it them. Fish is cat food. If you have seen that interurban before it wasn’t in my photos. I scanned that photo the other day and it was the first time I showed it. Southern Pacific! One of my favorites! But I don’t like that Amtrak is only running Sunset Limited to and from New Orleans today instead all the way across the country. CM3 – Glad to be back and I feel much better. Should be back to work on Tuesday. Pete – Thanks for the info on the Duchess! I should be able to find those Circus train pictures. I took them at the Circus World Museum in Baraboo, WI, a number of years ago. They run a circus train every year to Milwaukee (and back). I am sure there is a message in Lars encore last Saturday. I don’t know if early British diesels had an American look. To me they look very British.
Some more Zephyr photos.
Good evening Leon. I see that thiongs have been a bit busy tonight for you that's good. i see that teh newly released Mentor Fusiliers are relaxing in the pool room. Good plan on having the Muskets stacked and made safe in the rats patoot room as well.I'm sure that Boris will make sure that the right man gets the right musket back.So for me I think I'll grab one of those bacon doubles that Chris ordered earlier and I think a nice Keith's to wash it all down with.
Jan-Good for you mate making the big 35 double O post talk about impecable timing.
Tom-Nice SP exposee.A good read from back in the archeives As always I try to keep up lars's good work. hope he enjoy's his last hours with his best friend.
Chris-What- ho a daylight rampage Nothings sacred around here anymore Your child hood home is long overdo for a visit methinks.Some great photo's though my friend , mind you the "daylighted" SP SD was a tad hard on the peepers.Is that bedraggeled B&O thing the old boxcab deisel #50 If it is it's in desparate need of a resto.
Pete-Some great info on the A4's and some interesting pics as well. The Deltics look alot like some of Baldwin's attempts at "F" unit carbody type locomotives , minus the extra cab.Some North American railways used rather large number boxes as well though not to the extreme of that one on the Deltic. I can remember however the Sante Fe and the SP using relitivly large number boxes with the train number as opposed to the locmotive number mounted high on the fronts of their loco's.
Eric-Good to hear that you are up and at it again. But just be carefull ,just because the bandaids are off follow the doc's orders you aren't indestructable.Hire someone to rid you of the mountainman. I'm sure that Vito would help you out for a price <uh oh > That or maybe you could get Helga to put the moves on him so you can win back your brunnette.
More great close-up details of the Zepher as well
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