zugmann Sure you were.
Follow the thread. It's not difficult.
The thread was fine. Well, until the series of logical fallacies you try to pass off for some reason.
But it's apparent you are now just fishing for a reaction.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.
Shock Control Deggesty How does the return of coal usage lead to the revival of steam power on railroads (you give the impression that you believe that the return of coal will result in the use of steam to power train)? Simple logic. a. Steam engines use coal. b. Our President is bringing back coal. c. Our President is bringing back steam-powered trains. The rest of the world will have 21st-century hyperloops, which are energy-efficient and which can bring people vast distances in short amounts of time, but the U.S. will have beautiful steam-powered trains, running on beautiful coal, on steel rails.
Deggesty How does the return of coal usage lead to the revival of steam power on railroads (you give the impression that you believe that the return of coal will result in the use of steam to power train)?
Simple logic.
a. Steam engines use coal.
b. Our President is bringing back coal.
c. Our President is bringing back steam-powered trains.
The rest of the world will have 21st-century hyperloops, which are energy-efficient and which can bring people vast distances in short amounts of time, but the U.S. will have beautiful steam-powered trains, running on beautiful coal, on steel rails.
The use of steam on mainline trains ceased during the time that much more coal was mined than is now mined. The coats of restoring steam power on railroads is much greater than the costs of conitinuing to use diesel electric and electric power.
Johnny
Oh well.
Deggesty Shock Control Deggesty How does the return of coal usage lead to the revival of steam power on railroads (you give the impression that you believe that the return of coal will result in the use of steam to power train)? Simple logic. a. Steam engines use coal. b. Our President is bringing back coal. c. Our President is bringing back steam-powered trains. The rest of the world will have 21st-century hyperloops, which are energy-efficient and which can bring people vast distances in short amounts of time, but the U.S. will have beautiful steam-powered trains, running on beautiful coal, on steel rails. "c" does not logically follow "a" and "b." The use of steam on mainline trains ceased during the time that much more coal was mined than is now mined. The coats of restoring steam power on railroads is much greater than the costs of conitinuing to use diesel electric and electric power.
"c" does not logically follow "a" and "b."
It is pretty dumb that he keeps brining up steam locomotives since I want diesel electrics to return passenger service to my area.
Ultimately though, it would be best for as much freight and as many people as possible to be moved by electrified rail. The electricity would be best coming from nuclear power, hydropower, enhanced geothermal, wind, and solar.
Here is an interesting stat from another site. FY 2017
NEC RPMs = 1.984B RPMs
SD and state == 1.92B RPMs
LD Trains = 2.616B RPM
Will cite source later
Source Amtrak pages 32; 49; 66
https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/projects/dotcom/english/public/documents/corporate/businessplanning/Amtrak-Five-Year-Service-Plans-FY18-FY23.pdf
blue streak 1 Here is an interesting stat from another site. FY 2017 NEC RPMs = 1.984B RPMs SD and state == 1.92B RPMs LD Trains = 2.616B RPM
The numbers are Amtrak's passenger miles in FY17, which were 6,520 million or 6.5 billion miles. The number should be 1,920 million for the State Supported trains. They can be found on Page 5 of the September FY17 Monthly Performance Report.
What you saying with the stats?
Rio Grande Valley, CFI,CFII
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