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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:29 AM

Looks like I'm gong to need an airbrush. 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, December 10, 2018 11:45 PM

54light15

That is some fine modelling- I wish the roadbed on my layout looked like that. 

 

Thanks,

You can visit the Model Railroader Forum and pick up some pointers on finishing and ballasting track to get the look you're after.

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/default.aspx

Let's have another look...

 UP_4141_SD70sm by Edmund, on Flickr

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, December 10, 2018 3:16 PM

That is some fine modelling- I wish the roadbed on my layout looked like that. 

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Posted by zardoz on Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:31 PM

jeffhergert

I never thought I would actually look forward to a thread being locked.

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If any or all of my posts on this thread have contributed to your displeasure, then I apologize.
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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:57 AM

Nice modeling and a nice layout!  At least someone's posted something upbeat on this thread for a change!

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, December 9, 2018 7:47 AM

I had fun staging this scene on my little HO layout using an old Athearn Genesis 4141:

 UP_4141b by Edmund, on Flickr

 UP_4141d by Edmund, on Flickr

I should have painted Barbara's hair silver. Whistling

 UP_4141 by Edmund, on Flickr

 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:02 PM

It could be, if someone gets nasty or offended, but so far everyone's been gentlemanly, so no worries there.

I've said all on one particular subject I care too.  I'm not taking any chances.  Whistling 

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, December 8, 2018 1:17 PM

I never thought I would actually look forward to a thread being locked.

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Posted by zardoz on Saturday, December 8, 2018 12:30 PM

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Don't you just wonder at Mr. Trump's inner thoughts on the Bush funeral?

Probably about the same as when he tried to escape the G-20 Summit: "Get me out of here". https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-overheard-saying-get-me-out-of-here-as-he-walked-offstage-during-g-20-summit-photo-op/ar-BBQnLN1

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Posted by NKP guy on Saturday, December 8, 2018 10:41 AM

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You know why Mr. Trump won in 2016?  My opinion?  Because he ran like a businessman and not like a politician.

Trump election:  

   Fact:  Mr. Trump won because of the Electoral College, not because he got more votes from the American people than his opponent.  Not very democratic, I think. And if I may use an analogy, many forum contributors wouldn't think much of placing a person without any experience of any sort in the railroad industry in charge of UP or BNSF, etc., would they?  How would that likely turn out?  So much for running a country "as a businessman."

Bush funeral train:

   Just as touching, in its own way, as the funeral services.  I knew UP would rise to the occasion.  What a great-looking train they assembled, and looking as if it had just emerged from the paint shop with a good wax job.  UP really is a railroad with a great corporate memory and tradition.

     As far as the people along the tracks, that touched me, because those were my fellow-countrymen, out to see a historic event and to pay their respects.  And they were there by the thousands!  With flags and signs!  I'm pretty sure Bush would have loved seeing them.

   As for their demeanor, Yes, they were not silent or very quiet.  But consider the circumstances.  Bobby Kennedy had been assassinated and FDR had died in office unexpectedly, while G.H.W. Bush had lived a long and full life.  I think that affected the public response and celebratory atmosphere. 

   Besides, at least to this Ohioan, these were Texans, for goodness' sake, a people not known for their British-like reserve and stiff upper lip.  They were welcoming home, in their unique way, a fellow Texan who had done them proud.

Last thought:

   Don't you just wonder at Mr. Trump's inner thoughts on the Bush funeral?

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, December 8, 2018 8:16 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH
And some of his quotes during the campaign suggested that his wealth meant that he couldn't be bought.

Yeah that is spin though.   Everyone has their price regardless of what is in the bank.   It would be more accurate to say "most can't meet my price" but saying that would be a lot worse than not saying anything at all.   So the spin goes in the ears and keeps folks more comfortable.

It is just like the quote: "I could never kill anyone".    If it was really true and that instinct was so controllable, we would have world peace and the Nazis would have been better known for putting flowers in the end of rifle barrels.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, December 8, 2018 8:08 AM

It's a shame.  People don't learn.

As gruesome as it sounds maybe the media shouldn't have surpressed that video of the poor woman who was drop-kicked by UP 844 out in Cheyenne several months back.  On picture's worth a thousand words. 

But no, in deference to her family they obviously couldn't do that. 

What I couldn't understand was the people whooping it up as the train went past.  Uh folks, Mr. Bush has passed on, he can't hear you no matter how loud you yell.

Then again, I'm old enough to remember the respectful silence people maintained when Bobby Kennedy's funeral train passed crowds.  Different time I suppose.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:56 AM

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Watching some of that footage from onboard the 4141 and it's a Celestial miracle they didn't run anyone over.  Man, some people were clueless. 

LOL!  Hey I live in Texas, that whole thing was Classic Texas, it's rainy, foggy and dreary outside soooo...........lets all wear very dark clothes and stand as close as we can to the railroad tracks!!!!  lol.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:51 AM

CMStPnP
 
Now we just have to break the artificial barrier that only wealthy people can run for President.
 

 
And some of his quotes during the campaign suggested that his wealth meant that he couldn't be bought.
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Posted by zugmann on Saturday, December 8, 2018 1:04 AM

I think President Trump won in no small part to the fact that the democrats ran one of the worst campaigns in memory plus the media giving unlimited air time to then candidate Trump.  But lets get away from that...

 

Watching some of that footage from onboard the 4141 and it's a Celestial miracle they didn't run anyone over.  Man, some people were clueless.  Esp the officer at Magnolia standing near the tie butts (appearing at least) to be taking a selfie with his back to the train.   Sigh. 

  

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, December 7, 2018 11:24 PM

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You know why Mr. Trump won in 2016?  My opinion?  Because he ran like a businessman and not like a politician. 

Yup and I think he opened the door wider for other citizens to run because before him we were getting to a kind of a standard that non-politicians were not qualified for the job....when in fact via the Constitution the job is open to any citizen with no limitations on past occupation.   Now we just have to break the artificial barrier that only wealthy people can run for President.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, December 7, 2018 10:09 PM

Mercy buckets, Miningman!  Mercy buckets?  That's GI French.  I am a military historian by avocation, after all!

Merci beaucoup, for everone else. 

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, December 7, 2018 10:06 PM

Applause! Chapeau mousiur Firelock, chapeau. ( my hat to you sir)

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, December 7, 2018 9:57 PM

No argument with anything you've said.  New York is a world all it's own.  Everyone else's rules just don't apply.  It is what it is.

Let me make a personal confession here, confession is good for the soul after all. 

I spent most of the 90's with a full-blown case of Bill Clinton Derangement Syndrome.  You know what?  It was a waste of my time and energy.  I feel like a fool now.  So, from now on anyone who gets into the White House, Republican or Democrat, male or female, is only going to get my best wishes and hopes for the best.  I've got more important things to do, like learning about this fascinating railroad world.  I'll leave the Derangement Syndromes to the chattering classes, chattering is all they're good for.   It dawned on me a while ago that for the chattering classes it's all about the game anyway, not what you do with the win. 

You know why Mr. Trump won in 2016?  My opinion?  Because he ran like a businessman and not like a politician.  He saw the underserved market and went after it.  It worked.  I could see it, I wonder why the so-called experts can't. Maybe they're not as expert as they think they are.

Enough.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, December 7, 2018 9:07 PM

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It was also common knowledge back then that if Trump said he was going to build something, it got built.  If he said he was going to do something, it got done.

You know why that was.    Mob involved in Concrete pouring.   Some of the other building trades like steel fitters are heavily union and under the table payments help with their building site priorities.   Trump had no moral qualms about doing business with any of them with their methods.   Not making a moral judgement myself but few people outside of New York and even some that lived in New York were oblivious to these facts.    Also, Trump could call in favors from such groups because of his long standing relationships creating issues for a competing building under construction.   Then he would jump on the press and degrade the competitor builder as "stupid" or "incompetent".   Big reason why he is respected in New York but generally not liked.

If you read his book "Art of the Deal"......which is printed with large font and....well nevermind.   Anyways, he details some acts of deception he used in there to obtain building financing.    Including one notorious example now of hiring a grading and digging company to just move earth around a lot and then Trump floated rumors that time was running out for investors to get into his great deal of a building (when he had almost no financing).    The deception worked but is that really something he should be doing?    I have my own reservations.

The one item I do like about Trumps approach to constructing buildings and that is his approach to only using high quality materials and proven construction techniques so much so that his buildings sell for a premium because they are constructed in such a manner and they have a reputation for low maintence costs and durability.   So he got that part right at least.

I am sure business schools across the country are having a field day with various Trump examples from the past.   His past books are entertaining reading but in many examples he is skirting the law or right on the edge of breaking it.  I do think he pays his fair share in taxes though just because his Corporate structure on paper is such a mess.....I think it would take an Army of accountants to figure out how to use his Corporate Structure fully to take advantage of the tax code.  I don't think he employs an army of Accountants.

George Bush was a politician and only a long ago businessman.    Trump is a first time politician and has always been a businessman.   So there is a difference there and you can't really compare the two based on their backgrounds.   A more apt comparison would be between Ross Perot and Donald Trump.

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, December 7, 2018 7:52 PM

Tthanks, Jeff. I should have known that in such an instance not only the engine number, but also the owner of the engine has to be specified.

If an engine is running light, is that specified?--I think of the five CSX engines I saw running light and headed west I saw in Iowa a few years ago.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, December 7, 2018 5:41 PM

54light15

Zardoz, I see your point. I used to live in New York and in the 1980s and 1990s, it was like he was one of New York City's mayors, you did not have a day where he was not in the papers along with the police commissioner, the cardinal, Al Sharpton, George Steinbrenner and of course, the mayor. 

 

Not to change the subject at all, but I lived in the New York area (Northern New Jersey) in the 80's as well, and what 54light' says is true.

It was also common knowledge back then that if Trump said he was going to build something, it got built.  If he said he was going to do something, it got done.

Just sayin', and that's all I'm sayin' on that subject.

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Posted by csxns on Friday, December 7, 2018 5:02 PM

54light15
Al Sharpton,

Now i like this one.

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Posted by 54light15 on Friday, December 7, 2018 3:34 PM

Zardoz, I see your point. I used to live in New York and in the 1980s and 1990s, it was like he was one of New York City's mayors, you did not have a day where he was not in the papers along with the police commissioner, the cardinal, Al Sharpton, George Steinbrenner and of course, the mayor. 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, December 7, 2018 11:08 AM

jeffhergert
From my phone because my laptop won't log in for some reason.

Seems to be a bit of that going around...

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, December 7, 2018 10:00 AM

I try not to.

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Posted by zardoz on Friday, December 7, 2018 8:49 AM

54light15

Zardoz, I don't like the guy either but this forum isn't for that kind of comment. 

 

Perhaps you are right; however, strictly speaking, this forum isn't really a "Lets praise the president" place either.
It's just that Frump has done so much to demean the office. Listen to the accolades being heaped upon 41: honesty, integrity, bravery. He knew combat. 
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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, December 6, 2018 9:23 PM

Deggesty

I noticed a possible gaffe on Fox News this evening--the statement was made to the effect that the casket would be carried in Train 4141; now, if the UP designated the train as X4141, this was correct. I did not notice any gaffe on the NBC news.

 

The designation on track warrants/track bulletins would be "UP4141 (direction)." The symbol would begin with either an S or P.  The business trains used to run under an S for special, but lately run under a P for passenger symbol

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, December 6, 2018 9:01 PM

video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4eBy1Y4Cdk 

Outside cab view of Funeral Train rolling (Houston & Texas Central RR?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYqM6Xm2BSU 

 

 

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