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Welcome to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner July, 2020 In The UK and British Isles

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:33 AM

Howdy ..... Family visitors left yesterday, and suddenly it is quiet here. 2 grandkids kept us very busy over the long 4th of July weekend here at the lake. Fishing, boating, swimming, kayaking, etc. Fireworks viewed on a boat were very nice with a full moon. 

 

 

......

 

It  looks like you Diners have been busy with much to say. I'll try to catch up with your posts later.

 

GARRY

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:03 AM

Brought to you by the same "experts" who now just figured out they were killing patients by putting them on ventilators.Just don't believe everything you read about mask safety. The science out there is just junk if you look for the actual science.

Sure the politics of mask safety is clear: don't need them if doctors and nurses need them (they even closed up the dentists practices here for that reason, the cross infection experts). Oh wait, yes, now you need them and any old thing is better than nothing. Old T shirt armpits, coffee filters and so on. If this weren't so dangerous I'd keep quiet but it is dangerous. Don't wear a mask if you can avoid it.

If you feel you have to wear a disposable mask, do not take it off and then put it back on. Wear it once and continuously. If you take it off, use only the restraint straps to do so and dispose of it permanently. Change your mask frequently, every hour at least with a fresh new one. Do not pull it down below your chin or up on top of your head in order to use your phone or whateverl.

If you elect to use a cloth mask (very dumb idea) then use it only once between sanitizing. Best sanitizer? Strong direct sunlight on both sides for at least an hour per side.

Much safer practice is just don't touch your face with your hands whenever you are in contact with people (especially if you're wearing a mask). Wash your hands frequently and anytime you have touched a publically accessed surface. If it was a cool hard surface like a door knob then try to wash your hands asap.

There's no proper science showing masks protect anyone in normal daily activity. Surgeons only wear them to protect the patient from serious bacterial infections when they plan on getting inside your body and they invented hand washing for the same purpose. For bacterial infections not for viruses. And certainly not for respiratory viruses. Surgical masks and gowns are definitely not PPE and the fact that everyone now refers to them as such is a sign of our times.

Wearing a mask can kill you in these times. It can't protect YOU. 

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:20 AM

I think the big problem re masks is people don't understand the purpose. It's not about protecting you, it's about protecting other people from you.

When you have surgery, the doctors, nurses and technicians in the operating room aren't wearning masks and gloves to protect them from getting germs from you; they're wearing them to protect you from getting germs from them. Wearing a mask doesn't necessarily do a great job of protecting the person wearing it from germs. What masks do really well is prevent the person wearing it from spreading their airborne germs when they exhale, especially when they cough or sneeze.

That means wearing masks to prevent the spread of a virus really only works if everyone wears one when they're around people. That's especially true with Covid-19, where there is evidence that half (or more) of people with the virus are asymptomatic, so could be spreading the illness without knowing it.

It's like drunk driving. Drunk driving isn't illegal to stop you from getting drunk and driving your car into a telephone pole and killing yourself; it's to try to stop you from getting drunk and plowing your car into a schoolbus full of kids and killing them.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:22 AM

Garry

Nice to see you!  Your Grandson and Granddaughter sure look like some great kids.  I'm sure you are proud of them.

After three months of no socialization it sure was nice to spend time with Family a short time ago over here.  I was sad to see them go.  Things seemed a little quiet and empty for a while after.

I'm glad to here you had such a wonderful time with your FamilySmile

 

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:24 AM

Lastspikemike - while I agree to what you write, others may not and feel offended. I find it sometimes quite difficult to keep my mouth shut and at times I don´t succeed. But let´s not get carried away and remember this is a model railroading forum and while the Diner is an offtopic place, we should stay within the general topic of trains and model trains and not drift off to hot button items.

Reminder to myself - keep that in mind!

News on the house front. Petra and I pretty much concur that we are not really city folks and made to live in a city, that never gets completely dark in the night so you can´t see the stars, and which never stops hustling and bustling so you can´t listen to Mother Nature´s night time concerto.

We are beginning to once more toy with the idea of a small shipping container home, added with an enclosed deck/porch, which would give us extra usable space and keep heating costs down. Such homes can be had for reasonable prices, but it means pairing down to the bare bones of a minimalist life. A lot of things we consider essential in our life won´t be able to come with us. While I am prepared to make such a bold move, I am not yet sure about Petra. Finding a reasonable priced lot is possible, finding one where you are allowed to put up such a building remains challenging. I am firing up my CAD program to put some of my ideas "on paper".

Happy times!

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:03 AM
I debated with myself about posting. Had nobody posted about the issue I'd have stuck with trains. This is too important to ignore. If someone posted here that he was about to run his classic brass steamer on a full DCC layout I'm pretty sure he would be warned not to. And that risk is only that the brass loco would probably need a new motor (which, frankly it probably needs anyway judging from the brass I've had test run to see if I'm interested in buying one). If I did not believe this to be a genuine life or death situation I would have refrained from any comment. The science relating to covid 19 is truly appallingly bad. People are dying as a direct result of very bad medical treatment and advice based on nothing resembling proper science. It is a sign of our age. At least we all know what 16v phased AC will do to an innocent little 14v dc electric motor. No bad science about that.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:26 AM

Track fiddler
  I checked out the 66 Mercury on eBay this morning over coffee.  Wow!  She's a Beauty!  <SNIP>  I know that thing hauls ass with that 428 under the hood

It has a 428-4V Super Marauder, which is basically the same engine as a Cobra Jet. That is why I put that silly Cobra Jet scoop on mine.

The Mercury S-55 is a full sized car, but it was still fast. I loved that 428 sound through a pair of Cherry Bombs.

The rust is not an issue. All 1964-1967 Mercurys have that problem in the exact same areas. I am happier that the seller did not try to sand it out and repaint for a quick sale. That way I can fix it right.

If the remodel on the house was complete, I would have bought it already. Red ones are hard to find.

Heartland Division CB&Q
Family visitors left yesterday, and suddenly it is quiet here. 2 grandkids kept us very busy over the long 4th of July weekend here at the lake. Fishing, boating, swimming, kayaking, etc. Fireworks viewed on a boat were very nice with a full moon. 

I am so jealous of you having grandchildren. I wish one of my daughters would get into action and make one for me.

They look like they love visiting your house.

Lastspikemike
Had nobody posted about the issue I'd have stuck with trains.

There used to be a sticky about discussing Covid-19 on these forums, but it seems to have vanished.

Hopefully Steve-O can put it back for clarification.

-Kevin

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:47 AM

Mornin' folks!

Heartland Division CB&Q
Howdy ..... Family visitors left yesterday, and suddenly it is quiet here. 2 grandkids kept us very busy over the long 4th of July weekend here at the lake. Fishing, boating, swimming, kayaking, etc. Fireworks viewed on a boat were very nice with a full moon.

Aren't grandkids wonderful!!!  You usually see them on their best behavior...  Best thing is that you get to give them back to their parents...  Yours are sure cute kids!  Only problem with grandkids that age is that they sooner or later turn into Middle Schoolers which are nobody's favorite animals.....  (only kidding)  My oldest Granddaughter just turned 13 and is still a total sweetheart.  Enjoy your time with them (I know you do)!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:09 AM

I am glad I paid the extra for a late checkout time, but it is now necessary to pack up and hit the road for home.

I can't wait to see my baby in Orlando this afternoon.

-Kevin

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 3:55 PM

Grandma used to live on a lake like that. And I *was* a kid too once!

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:04 PM

You have no proof, and it is impossible to do an rigidly scientific study anyway.

Do what you need to do, and do not come to me if you die of the CCP virus.

Besides, how did that ddnf virus get back into the dienr, we had better call the fumigators.

 

 



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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:11 PM

Vinnie must be on vacation.  I heard Dr Michael Roizen on the radio today.  Most academic docs do something clever and spend the next 40 years living off their reputation. He did a lot of clever things in his career and ended up a one of the TV doctors talking about nutrition.  He says we aren't producing enough N95 masks for medical personnel.   The ones I saw on Amazon, aren't NIOSH approved and often made in China. 

My new home is further delayed until August.  grumble grumble.   I stayed with my SIL who lives a little further out in the country.  My BIL was telling my about the big columbines that and come down the road and my SIL said they cut the grass, and the next day a big machine ran over the grass and put it in big round bales.  Big Smile  City slickers.

There is a big barn near them with camels.  They don't seem to do much but lie around.  I do not understand why Virginians would own camels.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:12 PM

Lastspikemike

Brought to you by the same "experts" who now just figured out they were killing patients by putting them on ventilators.Just don't believe everything you read about mask safety. The science out there is just junk if you look for the actual science.

Sure the politics of mask safety is clear: don't need them if doctors and nurses need them (they even closed up the dentists practices here for that reason, the cross infection experts). Oh wait, yes, now you need them and any old thing is better than nothing. Old T shirt armpits, coffee filters and so on. If this weren't so dangerous I'd keep quiet but it is dangerous. Don't wear a mask if you can avoid it.

If you feel you have to wear a disposable mask, do not take it off and then put it back on. Wear it once and continuously. If you take it off, use only the restraint straps to do so and dispose of it permanently. Change your mask frequently, every hour at least with a fresh new one. Do not pull it down below your chin or up on top of your head in order to use your phone or whateverl.

If you elect to use a cloth mask (very dumb idea) then use it only once between sanitizing. Best sanitizer? Strong direct sunlight on both sides for at least an hour per side.

Much safer practice is just don't touch your face with your hands whenever you are in contact with people (especially if you're wearing a mask). Wash your hands frequently and anytime you have touched a publically accessed surface. If it was a cool hard surface like a door knob then try to wash your hands asap.

There's no proper science showing masks protect anyone in normal daily activity. Surgeons only wear them to protect the patient from serious bacterial infections when they plan on getting inside your body and they invented hand washing for the same purpose. For bacterial infections not for viruses. And certainly not for respiratory viruses. Surgical masks and gowns are definitely not PPE and the fact that everyone now refers to them as such is a sign of our times.

Wearing a mask can kill you in these times. It can't protect YOU. 

 

Source citations required.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:49 PM

Afternoon all.

It is another beautiful day in the neighbourhood and I feel great after a good workout. Still hangin around the house even though the germ fest has eased greatly. I do 50 pushups and 50 situps everyday and that takes me a good four to five minutes, where do I find the time.Laugh I kind of got out of the pushup/situp groove when hockey ended as I did them during commercials. 

Speaking of hockey, I can't wait to see it resume later this month, though it will be weird watching i the heat of Summer. Edmonton and Toronto is where it will all happen.

Our usual Saturday night hockey crowd is getting together this weekend for the first time in months, now things are returning to normal, it will be good to see them all again. Some good guitar players in the crowd so the tunes will be flowing. No more pickin til dawn as we are all to old, but maybe midnight and then the wives can drive us home. We get better as the evening goes on and the rum bottle(s) empties. Lookin forward to it.

Garry life looks pretty good for you and you have great looking Grandkids. I don't think I will be around long enough to see Grandkids as I got a late start on my own kids. My kids were 2 and 5 when my Mom past, she didn't get much time with them but cherished every moment she had. We swear she is still hanging around the house here sometimes.Laugh

Spent most of the day on the Estate I have been dealing with. I have been on the phone with CRA (Canada"s Tax dept.) and they have been great. It makes life so much easier when the front line workers have empowerment.

The kid got his own parking space at his new office in Vancouver, that is a pricey perk for him. The movie industry is cranking up bigtime and have been calling him constantly to do some work for them but it is not going to happen this year as his plate is full.

Well time to crank up the pressure washer or unwrap the layout. The drywall sanding is done and try as we did to keep the spread to a minimum the house is covered. My wine rack is covered, makes me look like I have some old dusty fine wine waiting to be drunk.Laugh

 

All the best to all.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:50 PM

Wow, ... That was really something. 

I keep myself logged in here because of problems in the past trying to login and it doesn't work.  I never logged myself out but somehow I was logged out.

I tried to login for so long I finally called customer service and they gave me a new password.  That didn't work either and she told me to shut my phone off and try again later.

That didn't work either but sometimes I have a brainstorm and tend to get a little creative.  I exited the site and returned incognito mode.  That worked right away, I was in.  I'm going to have to remember that one.

And now I don't even know what I was coming here to sayLaugh

 

 

Tongue TiedSadTF

 

P.S.  Well, ... I might as well say something while I'm here.  I hope we get some Hockey back here too BrentPirateYes  I haven't heard nothing but these football reruns are getting kind of bunkLaugh

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:06 PM

Hello again.

TF, Kevin, Ray, Lion, and Brent. Thanks for all of your comments regarding my pictures of grandkids visiting us here at the lake. We are proud of each of our 5 adult children, their spouses, and the 7 grandkids they blessed us with. None of them lives close to us, and visits are a real treat .

 

Regarding the virus, I do not seek advice in the MR Forum on how to deal with it. 

Everybody: have a good evening. 

GARRY

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:34 PM

Okay, I just got bumped off as well and had a heck of a time getting back on.

Track fiddler
I hope we get some Hockey back here too Brent 

TF, the whole league will be playing out of Toronto and Edmonton. There was suppose to be one city in the U.S. and one city in Canada where they would play all the playoffs. With the Covid19 thing so bad in the U.S. they went with both sites in Canada.

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:40 PM

I am responding on my iPhone.

 

i was bumped off of it, but could log in.

 

next , I tried posting on the iMac.  I am bumped out and can not log in.

 

so I won't post the photo I was going to post in the Show Me thread.  I have other stuff to do. 

have a good night everybody 

GARRY

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:42 PM

BroadwayLion

Grandma used to live on a lake like that. And I *was* a kid too once!

 

You play with trains, you're still a kid.Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh

Brent

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:52 PM
Grandchildren are the best if you respond to them as a grandparent and not as a parent. Works great. I have a Consolidation marked with CPR freight markings for each of my grandsons to run on the layout now under construction. The older boy has already run his and the younger one (just 5 months) was studiously tracking my BLI Mike hauling a Rivarossi consist plus two lead CPR Express boxcars. He's going to like model railroading.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:01 PM

Thanks for the hockey update Brent.

My daughter set me up with Amazon Prime sometime ago.  She could give two family members service for free with her membership.  A ton of stuff is free on there but some things you have to pay for if you want it.  

I will be having her find me the hockey package and sending her a checkYes

 

P.S.  I just found out I'm logged out of here any time I leave and come back!  I have to do some kind of funky routine every time I want to log back inSad

 

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:17 PM

Track fiddler
I just found out I'm logged out of here any time I leave and come back!

Some forums give you the option of deleting cookies automatically.  That maybe what is happening.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:26 PM

Thanks Henry

I would love to give that a try but how do I do that?

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:30 PM

I have been logged out all day and couldn't sign in.

 

Track fiddler
I exited the site and returned incognito mode.  That worked right away, I was in.  I'm going to have to remember that one.

 

That worked for me, too.

 

I'm kind of glad I missed the diner today.  I come here to get away from virus news.

 

Great pictures of grandkids!  I'm having trouble with my wife -- she hasn't seen our grandkids for six months.  She takes it out on me.

Have a good evening, everyone.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:51 PM

I'm glad that worked out for you too John. 

Unfortunately I'm having to put my false mustache and sunglasses on every time I come back and have to sign in again.  It's kind of a pain.

Then when I go to Imgur to fetch a picture it doesn't recognize me in my disguise and I have to do everything all over againSad  What are you gonna do though?

 

Don't feel alone about the wife thing.  I feel so bad for Judy and her recent loss.  But I have become her punching bag lately.  I just smile and say it's okay dear.  Maybe give her a little hug to try to make her feel a little better. 

What are you gonna do though?

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:56 PM

York1
I have been logged out all day and couldn't sign it.

Same here. I switched over to MS Edge and logged in OK, after trying a new password. I'll have to play with Chrome later, clear the cache and all that. It was frustrating for a while.

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Posted by Attuvian on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:27 PM

gmpullman
York1
 
I have been logged out all day and couldn't sign it.

Same here. I switched over to MS Edge and logged in OK, after trying a new password. I'll have to play with Chrome later, clear the cache and all that. It was frustrating for a while.

Cheers, Ed

 

Thanks for the idea, Ed.  Edge worked for me, too.  Didn't even have to change my password.  Hopefully this little problem will go away later - I much prefer Chrome.

Oh, Flo?  Do you have some butterscotch cream pie?  Would a big tip help?

John

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:28 PM

gmpullman
Same here. I switched over to MS Edge and logged in OK, after trying a new password. I'll have to play with Chrome later, clear the cache and all that. It was frustrating for a while.

 

I now use the new Edge.  I downloaded the new version that came out several weeks ago, and I like it.  I didn't like the old Edge.  The new one works on the same principles as Chrome, looks just about exactly the same as Chrome, but faster.  However, I couldn't sign in with Edge.  I haven't tried to sign in with Chrome.

The other thing I like is I switched to DuckDuckGo as my browser.  It doesn't allow any tracking on any site.  It stops the personalized ads that Google is plagued with.

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:37 PM

I routinely access the website data on my iPad. I go through the cookies and delete a bunch. For this website I had to also do a hard shutdown and reexamine the cookies file before trying to log back on. 

On my iBook I just logged right in. 

To stay logged in you often need to check that box on the login dialogue box. 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:16 PM

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None of them lives close to us, and visits are a real treat

Garry: I think I told you that my Uncle used to live on the same lake you do. Back in the 1970s when I was still in grade school I would visit him for a week every Summer.

Visits to that lake were a real treat.

Somewhere there is a picture of me, about the same age as your grandson, with a fish I reeled in from that lake.

York1
I now use the new Edge.  I downloaded the new version that came out several weeks ago, and I like it. 

I am also using the new Edge, and it is working really good, and much faster. It seems to work especially well with Bing as the search engine. I find myself using Google less and less now.

-Kevin

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