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Welcome to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner July, 2020 In The UK and British Isles

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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 6:16 AM

Good Morning All,

   A regular to go please Zoe. mid 70's already and it should get into the nineties by noon. Not much to report on the train front though the local railway museum is reopening for the volunteers so they can come in and clean and prep things. Maybe they can have a soft opening with restrictions by the end of July if things here keep improving. I won't get into a back and forth on masks but kudos to Ken for standing his ground at w**k. Nova Scotia has "bubbles" -  small groups that are comfortable with each other but in my sisters, they still mask up. 

   Time to pick up tools. We are off to New Hampshire this weekend and I'm concerned with the amount of increased infection there. We shall see how it goes.

    Ciao, J.R.

Oh boy I have top. Brekkies on me folks. I will start with a waffle with blueberrys

and whipped cream. Side of link sausage too please.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:00 AM

Good morning

Another hot one as it seems to be the pattern pretty much nation wide from what I gather.  Hot and humid is forecasted all week here with a high of 100 actual tomorrow.

Judy and I take the mask thing pretty seriously these days.  Especially after this wicked disease affected our Family. 

A study was done on indoor air quality up here and microscopic particles of the covid were found suspended in the air of the room with no people present with exception of the people doing the test.  That's enough for me to wear a mask and my sunglasses any time I have to go inside whether near anybody or not.

I do miss my friends but have not been to Cowboys in well over three months.  They have the patios open for social distancing.  I have drove by quite a few times and I see no evidence of this.  What used to be a middle-aged to an older crowd has turned into a bunch of kids that are right on top of each other.  No Thanks!  I'll have a beer at home.

For some reason the younger generation thinks they're invincible and do not take this thing very seriously at all.  I guess I can somewhat understand this as I was young once too.  I just wish they all knew how serious this thing really is.  They say the more recent spikes stem from the younger crowd.

 

Well,  I have a few things to take care of on my truck this morning before it gets to Sticky out.

 

Have a great day everyoneSmile, Wink & Grin

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:13 AM

Good morning.  Just coffee this morning.

The tree guys didn't make it last night.  They got behind on another job.  I hope they come today and finish.  I'm tired of this.

My daughters were all older when Shining Time Station came on TV with Thomas the Tank Engine.  We just never watched it.

Later, I was flipping the channels and came across the show.  I was hooked -- not for the stories but for the models.

Now it is computer generated, and for me, has lost the appeal.  I know some people like it better CGI, but I loved the real thing.  I've seen several Thomas layouts at railroad shows, so maybe it gets some kids interested in model railroading.

Oh, well, it was  UK show and we're in the UK.

 

LB&SCR E2

 

 

Have a good day, everyone.

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:10 AM

Good .......  Uh....  Oops!  Think I made a wrong turn here this morning.  No?  Well I'm sure Cousin Vinnie will be in to clean up the mess just as soon as he is up and dressed...  LOL

Only thing I will say is.  The issue is more about how you respect, care, and "do unto others" in this world (That is a major part of my personal faith system) than "rights".  I always do my best to do what is recommended and expected when I am out and around.  With all the folks yelling about their "rights", they seem to forget that one very important responsibility is, that others also have rights.  Ah...  You may have heard of "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness?"  I take part of that to mean that my right to swing my fists ends at the tip of the other guy's nose!  Or maybe my right to ignore health recommendations ends when I could cause major harm or death to someone else.  Like what has been discussed earlier.

How about we try to turn the other cheek and treat each other with respect including following rules and recommendations both out in public and, ah.....  Maybe even here at the forum?

'nuff said!

73

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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 10:13 AM

Works for me.   J.R.

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Posted by up831 on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:02 AM

Good morning Everyone,

Just got back from a trip to another state to visit family.  Our state is still requiring masks in buildings and etc.  We go to the other state and it was pretty much wide open. Didn't wear my mask once the whole visit, but we also weren't out and about that much. Sure was a different feeling at first.  We're now sort of self quartineing out of courtesy for others just simply minimizing interactions and wearing our masks to the supermarket.  Don't want to be responsible for giving something to someone else if we by chance picked up something.

My sister happens to be an amazing quilter.  I'm just awestruck at her work.  My wife purchased a bunch of sewn zipper bags my sister had made to give to people.  Sorry, don't have pics to share.

Saw just a couple of RR things, a small yard and a bridge Visible from the freeway.    Interesting to see how things change over the years.

 Edit:  Ed:  libraries routinely get rid of old books.  Sometimes they're for sale for literally pennies.  Check with your local library.  (Reference to comment on another thread.)

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:15 PM

Good afternoon all.

Chloe - A nice cheeseburger, fries, and a Coke please. Thanks.

Ken - Good that you stood for what is required by both the CDC, WHO, and Health Dept. (Also possibly your boss, company, county, state and others.)

At least in PA, there is a medical exemption, for those under 2 and those on oxygen/with severe breathing issues, but unless you are under 2, you need to have a card from your Doctor, and are supposed to mention the medical exemption when asked to wear a mask by employees/officials, and are supposed to have the card available to show when requested by employees and/or officials. (Asthma does not qualify. I am not unhappy, as I would not want a medical exemption.) 

In PA, it is required that you wear a mask when you leave your house. In your yard, a car by yourself, or in your own house you are exempt. Everywhere else it is required by the State Health Dept., County Health Dept., State & Local Government order, and is recommended and encouraged by CDC & WHO. National government is also now encouraging all to wear masks.

Yes, you have the freedom to choose whether you obey, but that comes with the responsibility of getting yourself in trouble, and putting yourself and others at increased risk. You also get the freedom of accepting whatever penalties are assessed for not obeying. (Such as being told to leave stores, fines, etc....)

Yes, many are enforcing their rights. But no one has any right to needlessly place others in harms way.

And, it's exactly because of these freedoms and rights that allow stores, businesses, and states/counties to require masks. We are required to wear shoes and shirts also. This isn't much different than that requirement. Yes, masks are hot. Yes they are uncomfortable, but they have been scientifically proven to help prevent spreading a scientifically proven deadly disease. (While not 100%, it is infinitely better than not doing anything.)

My only other comment on masks will be this - If heat and humidity were a reason that masks would harm individuals due to bacteria and mold, etc...., then medical professionals, people who work with dusty jobs, and people who wear even more restrictive masks for working with paint/other chemicals, would not be able to wear them during summer heat and humidity either. (And I have seen zero evidence to support this supposed issue, but have seen plenty of everyday proof that it is not any issue wearing them in summer heat & humidity.)

Now, back to our regularly scheduled discussions -

Ed - Your pollen pic has me sneezing clear over here! Smile, Wink & Grin

Weather - Still hot and humid.

Tree trimming discussion - Had a pine tree (affected by some kind of blight) taken down last week. The individual we had do it pointed out where he was going to drop it, and it landed within 6 inches of that exact spot. Real professionals know exactly how to drop a tree, and can do it quickly and safely. He had a total of 3 people counting himself, and they had the 35' tree down and cleaned up in under 8 hours. (We paid cash and gave him the tree, as we do not have a wood stove, but he was aware of someone who could use the wood.) 

Hope all are well, and all enjoy the day!

Ricky W.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:18 PM

York1
The tree guys didn't make it last night.  They got behind on another job.  I hope they come today and finish.  I'm tired of this.

When I had a tree removed from the back yard in March, it was over two weeks from the original scheduled date until it was finally cut down.

I feel your pain and frustration.

up831
My sister happens to be an amazing quilter.  I'm just awestruck at her work.

My wife and I really want a nice hand made quilt. We have looked at hundreds of them in quilt shops all through the South, and never made a purchase.

The workmanship is amazing, and the variety is bewildering.

One day we will find the one that just screams "BUY ME", and we will get it.

The search has been fun.

-Kevin

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:22 PM

Well, I guess I'm a mask heretic.  The hospitalizations are very low, and the death rate has really fallen off, and both continue to drop.

But, that just means the disease is being detected more in younger, healthy people.  We are testing more, and therefore finding more cases.

My feeling is that the "herd immunity" group is right.  We need to develop that herd immunity, and young people who are not particularly susceptible make excellent candidates for that.

I don't think there will be a safe, effective vaccine for years, if at all, and I don't plan to hide under the bed for those years.  Sure, I will wear a mask if required, but eventually everyone is going to get exposed and will potentially be infected.  We can't hide forever.

I was possibly exposed to someone who tested positive a couple of weeks ago.  We got tested and the results were negative.  Oddly, I found myself wishing for a positive result, since it's already been two weeks and I had no symptoms.  Now, I'm back to worrying about getting infected again.

I'm 73 years old, I have high blood pressure, diabetes and congestive heart failure.  The Covid Panic Brigade would lock me up and not let me even go outside for a long time, but that is not my choice.  My spirit was crumbling before some restrictions were lifted a few weeks ago, and a couple of evenings out revived them.  I don't want to go back to the early lockdown restrictions.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:35 PM

How come English Muffins are made in New Jersey ???

The Monastery and our cars are considered 'cleana spaces' everywhere else it is our policy that we must wear masks. This will undoubtedly be a continuing policy of our house long after the CCP virus is in the dustbin.

What the Heck, I have had no cold taking these simple precautions so it seems like a god idea.

 

ROAR 

(PS Calendar of LION seems to have stopped sometime back in June.)

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:14 PM

BroadwayLion
How come English Muffins are made in New Jersey ???

How come there are no bones in ice cream and vests don't have sleeves?

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 PM
Just be aware that the science of mask use is pretty poor. There is in fact no good science supporting mass wearing of masks. It is mainly a publicity stance to encourage public confidence. It is bad public policy. No epidemiologist can claim mask wearing improves safety. Certainly if one is not a covid 19 virus carrier a mask is a dangerous illusion. It does not prevent infection. Indeed, if a mask works it does so by efficiently trapping the virus particles in the mask. Viral load is what causes infection. Concentrating coronavirus particles millimetres in front of your lips and nostrils is a really dangerous idea. If you are an infectious covid 19 virus carrier then you should not go out. Period. Mask wearing is insufficient to prevent you from infecting others. Asymptomatic carriers of covid 19 virus in sufficient load to be dangerous to others is simply not proven to be real.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 PM

Good evening

I picked up Judy from work late this afternoon and she said she was really hungry. 

Friday I stumbled across this new Sub Shop in Apple Valley.  It's called Goodcents Deli Fresh Subs.  That sub must have been really good because I had no problem driving Judy a half hour south to go to this sub shop again.

It puts that other sub chain to shame.  The bread melts in your mouth and they take a whole loaf of meat and run it through the meat slicer fresh for every sub they make.  They had to get three loaves of meat out to make the Penny Club.

The best thing is while we still had our masks on there is a Rita's Custard shop right next door.  In 94 degrees and humid that vanilla cherry custard Shake sure hit the spot.  We enjoyed our dessert first and enjoyed our subs when we got homeDinner

I'm probably going to pack some weight on during this pandemicLaugh  It's one of the only few things to do anymore is eatWhistling

Oh well,  I can work it offPirate

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:07 PM

BroadwayLion
How come English Muffins are made in New Jersey ???

How come they call it New Jersey? Were they too lazy to come up with an original name?Laugh

Edit; Maybe when I leave this nutty planet with Elon to inhabit a new planet, I'll call it New Vancouver!Pirate

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Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:37 PM

Lastspikemike
Just be aware that the science of mask use is pretty poor. There is in fact no good science supporting mass wearing of masks. It is mainly a publicity stance to encourage public confidence. It is bad public policy. No epidemiologist can claim mask wearing improves safety.

Um, no.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Lastspikemike
Indeed, if a mask works it does so by efficiently trapping the virus particles in the mask. Viral load is what causes infection. Concentrating coronavirus particles millimetres in front of your lips and nostrils is a really dangerous idea.

Wrong again.  

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/stanford-scientists-contribute-to-who-mask-guidelines.html

Lastspikemike
If you are an infectious covid 19 virus carrier then you should not go out. Period.

I could not agree more.  The problem is the individual may not realize it.

Lastspikemike
Mask wearing is insufficient to prevent you from infecting others. Asymptomatic carriers of covid 19 virus in sufficient load to be dangerous to others is simply not proven to be real.

Bang Headhttps://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/21/880832213/yes-wearing-masks-helps-heres-why

Sigh  We need to take information from the experts instead of choosing the storyline we like best.  I wish this wasn't a "thing" too, but it is. 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:49 PM

Please. 

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 10:00 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang a mask with a straw hole, straw, Beer and Dirk a dog treat plaese.

 Work it was slow and I was Ok with that! Only people in the store came in was to finish a credit ap (she had a mask on) and later her female friend to help pick up the King Set her friend bought. The friend did not have a mask, I told her we have free mask on that table for you.  She said "I am only waiting for a friend to help her pick it up, I just wanted to look around". Told her that find but you need to ware a mask, they are free. She said "I have never been told I have to ware a mask! and I was going to buy 1 or maybe 2 mattress! I will wait outside! !" Fine with me, not worth taking a chances for a few $ if I don't live to spend it!

 I was told that the city of St Louis is under lockdown again. Don't know it for a fact but would not surprise me.

 Later, Ken and Dirk says Woof, Woof.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 10:03 PM

Oh oh,  The Fiddler has been browsing eBay again.  A dangerous past time I know.

How could one not be tempted to buy this beautiful CN bloody nose zebra  Eh!

I'm having a real hard time fighting the temptationWhistling  Oh Well, ... If I lose I winLaugh

 

 

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Posted by CNCharlie on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 10:34 PM

Good Evening,

TF, go for it! I get a little thrill every time I look at my new Hudson.

Time for some dessert. How about some sticky toffee pudding. A real Brit treat. No it isn't like a pudding as we usually know it here. I had some in England last time and it was really good. In fact I have one to heat up sitting on the kitchen counter. I share. 

Ken, how is Dirk's paw?  

I thought we were going to stay away from discussions of covid here.

CN Charlie 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 10:48 PM

CNCharlie
I thought we were going to stay away from discussions of covid here.

We should. I am afraid I added to it with my personal observations of the way different regions are taking responsibility.

Sorry.

What I am doing right now: I am listening to the Follow The Leader album by Korn. This album came out in 1998, I cannot believe it is 22 years old. I loved to listen to this CD when I was driving before I had an iPod.

TF: The car I had in High School is for sale on eBay right now for $18,000.00, and I am seriously thinking about pulling the trigger. I have a nice garage to park it in now!

This was mine, picture taken when I lived in Nashville going to Vanderbilt in 1985:

I am going to go for a midnight walk on the beach in a few minutes.

Take care all!

-Kevin

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Posted by Attuvian on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 12:36 AM

Kevin,

As I recall, you've had a lot of exposure to antique shops and flea markets.  Have you ever come across any MRR items that were not of the toy train category?  I was recently in Arkansas and there were scads of antique stores.  I passed as thinking it would likely be a waste of time.  OTOH, "nothing ventured, nothing gained."

Others are certainly welcome to chime in here.  Geeked

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 1:06 AM

Attuvian
As I recall, you've had a lot of exposure to antique shops and flea markets.  Have you ever come across any MRR items that were not of the toy train category?

Rarely, but it does happen. 99% of the trains that are in antique stores are broken and/or junk. I get tired of looking at $50.00 Athearn Blue Box Kits and $75.00 Tyco freight cars. A lot of the dealers price stuff way too high because they have no idea what anything is or what it is worth.

Occassionally, you get a prize. Most recently I bought three Scale Structures Limited Mack Truck kits for $5.00 each.

The exception to all this are the antique dealer booths that are actually train dealers. Lindy's Trains still has a few locations in Georgia and North Carolina. There is a train dealer booth in Oviedo, Florida, and recently I was directed to one in Charlotte, North Carolina. These guys know what they are doing and price their stuff to move. They need turnover to be profitable and lots of great stuff can be found at fair prices.

Antique malls are really my wife's passion. Her collection of art glass is amazing, and she loves to look for treasures in antique malls.

I would not go to one just to look for trains unless you knew a model train dealer had a booth in one or you have time to kill. You never know what you will find in an antique mall.

-Kevin

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 1:09 AM

York1
I've seen several Thomas layouts at railroad shows, so maybe it gets some kids interested in model railroading.

Hi John,

I have an HO Thomas the Tank Engine with the actual 'Thomas' sounds. I got it strictly to take to train shows to use on my old club's portable layout. I can tell you that the younger kids and the parents lit up when Thomas came around the track and whistled at them or spoke.

Dave

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Posted by Attuvian on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 1:59 AM

SeeYou190

 Attuvian

As I recall, you've had a lot of exposure to antique shops and flea markets.  Have you ever come across any MRR items that were not of the toy train category?

Occassionally, you get a prize. Most recently I bought three Scale Structures Limited Mack Truck kits for $5.00 each.

The exception to all this are the antique dealer booths that are actually train dealers. Lindy's Trains still has a few locations in Georgia and North Carolina. There is a train dealer booth in Oviedo, Florida, and recently I was directed to one in Charlotte, North Carolina. These guys know what they are doing and price their stuff to move. They need turnover to be profitable and lots of great stuff can be found at fair prices.

Antique malls are really my wife's passion. Her collection of art glass is amazing, and she loves to look for treasures in antique malls.

I would not go to one just to look for trains unless you knew a model train dealer had a booth in one or you have time to kill. You never know what you will find in an antique mall.

-Kevin

 
Thanks for your observations, Kevin.  Directed this question to you because it's evident that you've been "around the block" on this issue more than a few times!
 
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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 2:59 AM

Good Morning!

Our weather is playing roller coaster - from spring to autumn via winter, and back to summer - all im one day! A few months ago, our weather guessers gve us a drought warning, and now the drought is dripping in liquid form from the sky. This is going to be some wet summer!

We are in Britain and make use of the time in best way there is - traveling by train. Today´s video takes us to Scotland, to the Highland town of Fort William, where we will board "The Jacobite" steam train to the former fishing town of Mallaig. This trip is most enjoyable in autumn, with all the autumnal colors adding a special atmosphere to the spectacular scenery of the Highlands.

More info on the "Jacobite" to be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jacobite_(steam_train)

Enjoy!

Happy times!

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Posted by GMTRacing on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:11 AM

Good Morning All,

    72F already at 7am so it will be in the 90's again I assume. I'll just have a regular to go please Zoe. 

   Scrambling to finish up one customer car for delivery and my own for Tamworth this weekend. The trailer leaves tomorrow. 

   No news on the layout front - too much to deal with in the shop so no time at home.   Hope the rest of you are doing well.    Ciao, J.R.

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:25 AM

Tinplate Toddler
Today´s video takes us to Scotland, to the Highland town of Fort William, where we will board "The Jacobite" steam train to the former fishing town of Mallaig.

Ulrich,

Thanks for contributing all the great videos!

Dave

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:11 AM

Good morning

Thanks for the Autumn field trip to Scotland Ulrich.  Beautiful scenery.  Loved the Jacobite, especially the tunnel and viaduct bridge scene.

 

Kevin,  I checked out the 66 Mercury on eBay this morning over coffee.  Wow!  She's a Beauty!  Your childhood car and I thought I was tempted with an F7 last night.  You definitely came across a more dangerous find than I did.

I didn't even know you could buy cars on eBay.  I almost wish you wouldn't have told me because you just created a Monster,  a new pastime for meLaugh

I'm sure you looked at all the pictures thoroughly.  I know that thing hauls ass with that 428 under the hoodPirate 

Respectfully, I only seen one thing that concerned me, I'm sure you seen it too.  Are you going to go look at it before you make a decision?

There's something about the sound of an old classic muscle machine.  These new muscle cars with the street and track key sound really mean when the track key is used but not quite the same as an old classic muscle machine.

 

I wish you the best.  I know you are serious and hope you get the chance to go look at itYesSmile, Wink & Grin  or hopefully you have a friend that lives in Nebraska.

 

Have a great day everyone

 

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:36 AM

Track fiddler
Loved the Jacobite, especially the tunnel and viaduct bridge scene.

I forgot to mention, that the viaduct made it to Hollywoods fame in the movie "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets".

The Glenfinnan Viaduct is one of the first all concrete viaducts ever built. The line is among the most beautiful railway lines of the world and high up on my bucket list. I doubt, though, that I´ll ever make it up there, before I kick the bucket. In the good old days, the beauty of the line came with a distinct feature - the smell of salt water and dead fish coming from the trains, which always hauled fish cars behind the engine, so the passengers could enjoy the aroma.

Happy times!

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:04 AM

That's pretty cool Ulrich. 

I never was a huge Harry Potter fan but my daughter was for quite a while.  Now that you mention it I do remember seeing that bridge clip.  She showed me it because she knows I like trains.

I just about swallowed my tongue one time when I was watching Nanny McPhee with her.  All those years I thought the Pink Floyd Animals jacket was a painting.  And then one day I see the real building in England with the pig floating in the skyStick out tongue   I remember saying  Are you kidding me!   Yes, ... I hit the rewind button in amazementIndifferent

 

 

TF

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