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Welcome to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner July, 2020 In The UK and British Isles

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, July 3, 2020 11:22 PM

I'll second Ulrich's post!

Happy B-Day to all of our friends in the USA!!!Thumbs UpBowCakeBeerYeah

Dave

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Top of the page so the Birthday Cake is on me! Lots of icing and ice cream too please! (That is the only reason to eat cake isn't it?).

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Saturday, July 4, 2020 12:28 AM

Good Morning!

Dave - it´s a little bit too early for me to enjoy a slice of that birthday cake. Mind, if a save a slice for a little later?

Today´s program takes us following the tracks and traces of lost railways in Britain.

Enjoy!

 

Happy times!

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:05 AM
Gidday Chloe, signing off the “release to service” statement this afternoon at w**k,  I finally twigged that 4/7/20 was the Fourth of July, so could you please put the chaps eats and drinks on my tab, please.
 
Observing things from the bottom southern corner of the Big Pond, you guys certainly need something to celebrate!!
 
"When science finally locates the centre of the universe, some people will be surprised to learn they're not it." -Bernard Bailey
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Stay Safe.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, July 4, 2020 3:32 AM

I came across an interesting discovery today when I was reading through the Model Railroader Newsletter from July 2nd. Bowser is offering drive systems to fit the Varney Aerotrain locomotive shells and chassis for the coaches! I have two Varney Aerotrain locomotives but only one older motored chassis, so I seized on the opportunity to buy a modern spec DC chassis which can be easily converted to DCC.

The new coach chassis are an easy solution to the totally absent floors in the original coaches, but I passed on them because I think they could be scratchbuilt easily. I had already replaced the original plastic wheel sets with metal sets from NWSL. The NSWL wheel sets required a wee bit of trimming of the axle mounts but they work great.

The Aerotrains used a pretty much standard EMD 567 12 cylinder engines so sound will be easy to install.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:12 AM

Thanks to all the good folks, friends and neighbors in wishing the USA a happy Independence Day!

 C&NW Station 24 August, 1996 by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, July 4, 2020 6:38 AM

Good Morning All,

   A regular and a blueberry donut please Chloe. Oh what the heck, how about a stack of blueberry pancakes instead with a side of link sausage. It is virtual after all.

   Thanks to our friends for the Independence Day wishes. Yes Bear, we could use a little cheer just now. 

   Finished up the backdrop last night and started cleaning. Next up will be more turntable repair and then remounting the control panel for the layout so it is more easily opened. Once that is done and the tracked cleaned it will be on to rolling stock starting with the immobile C-Liner and then the 2-8-0. 

   Same photo as in WPF but for those of you who don't surf, this is the backround through the yard. 

 yard view by J.R. Mitchell, on Flickr

   Hope those recovering are doing better. We take Bristol the mutt to the vets Weds next for a second opinion on her left hind quarter. She is still limping pretty badly. Well that brekkie was good - off to the shop and the trailers again. 

 Ciao,  J.R.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, July 4, 2020 7:00 AM

Good morning

Thanks for starting the Diner Ed.

Happy 4th to everyone.  Thanks for our Countries Happy Birthday wishes from our neighboring Country FriendsYes

We just got back from the hotel spending quality time with Family in town after saying good bye to Kelly Tuesday.  It was great to see everyone and miss them already.

 

Ulrich,  Thanks for taking over PH while I was gone.  Somebody's gotta do itLaugh

 

Have a fun wonderful 4th everyone and be safeSmile, Wink & Grin

 

 

TF

 

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, July 4, 2020 7:03 AM

Yesterday was a learining day. 

We decided to drive all the way across West Virginia since neither of us have ever been there before. We agreed to drive off route over to Kentucky, then take US-52 all the way West-To-East and see West Virginia from the local perspective.

One great thing about travelling through these United States is seeing how each state is nothing like the stereotype or reputation that it has. None of the States I have visited was anything like the general reputation that it has in culture.

Until West Virginia, they really lived up to everything I have heard about their back roads.

US-52 through West Virginia is like visiting a third world country that lost a war. I have never seen such terrible living conditions and rampant poverty anywhere in the USA. It is like a long stretched out version of Gary, Indiana.

There are apparently no building codes or inspections. No code enforcement. No attempt by anyone to have a presentable community.

All the cliches were there, cars on blocks, above ground pools in the front yard, and weed filled lawns 18 inches high.

I had no idea what it would look like. Crossing the border from Kentucky was like turning off a light switch, then arriving in Virginia was like turning it back on.

It was absolutely not what I expected. Next time I go to West Virginia I will stay on the Interstates and restrict myself to the larger cities.

-Kevin

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, July 4, 2020 7:58 AM

Kevin,

   As depressing as it was, not all of WVa is like that and there are pockets of extreme poverty throughout the country. When my friend went on manuvers from Camp Lejeune they ended up in a rural area where he thought he was back in Nam the way the roads and houses were. We go to Summit Point WVa for racing and probably due to its' proximity to DC, it is all modern developments and lots of farms away from the main roads. If you followed 52 you were on the border of Kentucky and West Virginia and likely where the mines have all shut down. There has been rampant unemployment since. Hope the rest of your trip is better. J.R.

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Posted by York1 on Saturday, July 4, 2020 8:39 AM

Good morning, everyone.  Happy 4th of July!

Kevin, I know what you mean about impressions of states.  When I tell people where I live, they honestly believe we have chickens in the kitchens and climb a pole to anwer our phone.

I forget the musician, but he once joked how he had gone home to visit his elderly parents, and they had put carpet in the bathroom.  They enjoyed it so much, they decided to run the carpet from the bathroom all the way up the path to the house.

Actually, our farmers are now ahead of the curve.  With all the talk of self-driving cars, we've had self-driving tractors and combines for years.

Welcome back to the diner, TF.  Glad everything went well with the family.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:24 AM

Winters are harsh, but there are parts of WV that are gorgeous.  I don't see why a big company hasn't relocated there, get the state to build some roads, help finance better schools and get that economy moving

Instead Amazon, wants to move to Northern Virginia, where real estate is sky high and a 2 mile drive to the bank takes over an hour, round trip.

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, July 4, 2020 12:16 PM

Happy 4th of July to all our U.S. friends to the North, South, East and West. This is a tough one to be sure but things always get better eventually. I think we have more American friends than Canadian ones. I have good friends in California and many in the Chicage area and Virginia. My wife is good friends with a lady in Virginia that lives on a huge estate right out of "Gone With The Wind" as my wife puts it. The lady sends a car to the airport to pick the wife and dogs up and she stays in the guest house while she is there.

I have had my two giant mugs of coffee, played my guitar for an hour, pumped weights for 30 minutes and am just checking the forum before I do 40 min on the bike. BP was 102/60HR44 so I am good to let it rip. Then it's cutting tile for the BR project and hop on the John Deere if there is time left. At least I don't have to lay the tile as the wife loves to do that. She marks the tile to be cut and I cut them all and hand them back to her along with a bucket of thinset which works for me.Laugh

We have a young person staying for a couple of days as home life for them with being home due to the covid19 crap has deteriorated. We use to take lots of kids in when my kids were younger that were having problems at home, my kids would just invite them to stay with us. We would even take them on vacation with us.Laugh It was that or the street for them. We have been locked up with our kids for months now and we get along great.

TF, glad your family crisis is mostly in the rear view mirror now and hopefully life will return to somewhat normal soon.

Time for some good ole rock and roll to be put on while I pedal ( makes me goes faster while I am not moving)Laugh

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All the best to all.

 

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:22 PM

BigDaddy

Winters are harsh, but there are parts of WV that are gorgeous.  I don't see why a big company hasn't relocated there, get the state to build some roads, help finance better schools and get that economy moving.

A lot is needed.  Not just roads and schools, but also a serious international airport, stores and restaurants.

We used to live in northern Virginia, and you're right -- trafic, crowds, outrageous prices and all.  Now we're in Delaware with none of that, no commercial air traffic, not much in the way of shopping, and just enough restaurants for us locals.  Keep the big city stuff away.  We left to get away from that.

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Posted by York1 on Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:26 PM

MisterBeasley
Keep the big city stuff away.  We left to get away from that.

 

My wife says the same thing when our town's council talks about attracting new companies to our area.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:50 PM

Howdy ..... I'm taking a break for a few minutes from our company while they swim in the lake. .... We've been swimming, boating, fishing, and eating constantly. 

Happy 4th of July ! 

I took the photos below in Detroit during the Bi-centennial celebration. 

 

 

In the second photo, you can see the Renaissance Center under construction.

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, July 4, 2020 3:10 PM

BigDaddy
Instead Amazon, wants to move to Northern Virginia, where real estate is sky high and a 2 mile drive to the bank takes over an hour, round trip.

Infrastruture is the thing. For a company like Amazon interchange will all forms of transportation is paramount.

Brent

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:51 PM

 Afternoon Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer please and Dirk half a dog treat.

 Just had nothing really to say this month Ed. I still read the post every day and sit in the back booth of the dinner.

 Health Front Well my rib is feeling 98% heald so that is good.

 Bad part is I have a new toe ulcer on the great toe on the right foot. Sigh Foot looked good Wednesday and on Friday it was a mess. Came out of no where, no standing or walking. Heck I have not even cut the grass for a month? If it does not look better Sunday, off to the ER.

 Liked the new Grass Trimer. It is a 40 volt trimer and is 5'6" tall. Can hack down the weeds with out my back hurting.

 Time to sit outside with Dirk and Sue.

 Later, Ken and Dirk says Woof, Woof America. Big Smile

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Posted by drgwcs on Saturday, July 4, 2020 6:05 PM

 

Kevin

Did you follow 52 on into NC and then down to Winston Salem? You would have passed by Mt Airy- Andy Griffith's hometown which was changed to Mayberry in the series. How was Spencer? I know they were pulling some of the equipment out. Considering the size of the buildings they really should have been allowed to open fully.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, July 4, 2020 6:23 PM

I saw part of the flyover of the Great American Colonial Cities.  Before hand I could not find out what was coming, nor if it would be near me.  After DC, they must have headed toward Dover, flying directly overhead. 

I saw the B2 but didn't know the B1 and B52 were coming and missed them.

It's the video, below the news video

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Posted by York1 on Saturday, July 4, 2020 9:03 PM

For some reason I could not get the video to play.  My wife and I were driving in Kansas one day years ago when a B1 flew right over the highway.  It was an amazing sight.  That still is the only one I've ever seen.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, July 4, 2020 9:37 PM

GMTRacing
not all of WVa is like that and there are pockets of extreme poverty throughout the country.

For certain, all states have pockets of poverty. In Florida we have Belle Glade, Pahokee, Liberty City, and Bithlo to name a few. But nowhere else have I seen a roadway that runs 100 miles through pure squalor.

Honestly, 95% of these structures people were living in would be condemned anywhere else.

I also visited Wheeling, West Virginia, which was pretty bad, and drove US-19 from the Pennsylvania border South the day before. It was not much better.

York1
I know what you mean about impressions of states. When I tell people where I live, they honestly believe we have chickens in the kitchens and climb a pole to anwer our phone

When people find out I am from Florida, you would not believe what I am encountered with. Since 2000 Florida has been the punchline for every "dumb-state" joke, and "Florida-Man" has become part of pop-culture.

Certainly, we have earned the "Florida-Man" stories. They are all true and too funny. It is amazing how many people just assume we are all "Florida-Man".

BigDaddy
Winters are harsh, but there are parts of WV that are gorgeous.

That was so amazing, everywhere you look in West Virginia there are million dollar views. The state is simply beautiful. The natural beauty provides a harsh contrast to the general living conditions.

-Kevin

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, July 4, 2020 9:42 PM

drgwcs
Did you follow 52 on into NC and then down to Winston Salem? You would have passed by Mt Airy- Andy Griffith's hometown which was changed to Mayberry in the series. How was Spencer? I know they were pulling some of the equipment out. Considering the size of the buildings they really should have been allowed to open fully.

We did drive through Mount Airy, but I did not see a sign saying it was Andy Griffith's hometown, so I did not know.

The Transportation Museum in Spencer was amazing. I will post pictures when I am back home. If you have been there before, you should go now. A few of the steam engines that are normally kept in the cramped roundhouse are outside where you can really get a good look at them. 

611 is there getting some major work done. Once again, I was able to get way up and more personal with her than should normally be allowed. That is twice now I have had a wonderful surprise with 611 in Spencer! I was the only person there (which is amazing in itself), so some allowances were granted.

They have also added some stuff since I was there two years ago. I do not remember the alluminum ACL hopper or all the cabooses everywhere. The pedestrial RR bridge was also fascinating.

Main Street Antiques was a great stop. The train booths were great, but it was mostly Lionel, which is typical for antique malls.

Then we went to The Depot Antique Mall, which was amazing. It was HUGE! We spent over two hours in there.

Chuck's Trains was closed when I got there, and so was New Brookland Trains in South Carolina. Oh well, I spent the time well and had a great time from morning to now.

Thanks for all the tips.

Tomorrow... TO THE BEACHES! I will be on Jeckyl Island in Georgia, then on to Daytona.

-Kevin

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:21 PM

Here's a flat car load with a bang!

Do you know what it is?

Dave

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The moderators may want to move this to the Prototypical forum.

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Posted by drgwcs on Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:25 PM

Kevin

Yea the depot antique mall is huge. There are several in the area that all claim the "largest" title. There is one in Burlington NC that is about the same size. The real champ though is the Factory Antique Mall up in Verona VA (just outside Staunton not too far from Shenandoah)

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:29 PM

hon30critter
Do you know what it is?

Dave, is it a depth-charge or an anti-ship mine?

-Kevin

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, July 4, 2020 11:24 PM

hon30critter
Here's a flat car load with a bang!

Gidday Dave and Kevin, a little light reading Wink...

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/13/t/240122.aspx

and the depressed centre car in question...

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/256674.aspx

Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, July 4, 2020 11:38 PM

SeeYou190
is it a depth-charge or an anti-ship mine?

Hi Kevin,

It could be used as either, but it would be a bit of overkill.

Dave

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, July 4, 2020 11:44 PM

Hi Bear!

I should have excluded you from answering!Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh I figured that you would know the answer based on your flat car building experience.

The picture came up in an article on my Yahoo! home page so I thought I would post it for interest.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, July 4, 2020 11:52 PM

Jumbo pretty much looks like this today:

 Trinity_Site-Remnants_of_Jumbo-2010 by Edmund, on Flickr

I've had this B&W 8 x 10 in my collection for years without knowing anything about it. Possibly part of the Trinity test?

 The Apparatus by Edmund, on Flickr

It certainly looks like the locomotive rolls the apparatus into place and is then attached or "plugged-in" to another device travelling on the larger-gauge rails toward the outside.

The photo was in a group I bought at a train show.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, July 5, 2020 1:52 AM

Good Morning!

Sunday - time for my big, fat and unhealthy brealfast of crisp fried bacon, eggs, pancakes,buttered toast & jams, OJ and plenty of coffee, Janie, dear! Thank you!

Petra an I are having second thoughts about moving to Görlitz. While Görlitz is certainly a nice place to live, we have not lived in a city since we go married. We always lived in rather rural places, fare away from the hustle & bustle city folks are used to. To be honest, I am having cold feet being stuck in a city! While it is certainly the most sensible thing to do, given our circumstances, my heart is not in it. The big question to answer is what a valid and feasible alternative could be. Renting an apartment in a rural place is not the answer - there are hardly any on the market and even, if, they don´t fit our budget. If we would find a nice plot of land to buy or rent, I´d put up one of those new-fangled shipping container houses. We don´t need much space, but we do need peace and quiet, and, not to forget, independence!

I know we are in Britain, but here is a video I´d like to share. It´s about a NG forest railway in the Carpathian mountains of Romania, where people in this 21st centure do not live much different as their forefathers did, when Dracula reigned with night time terror. Narration is in Germany, but you may switch on subtitles in English.

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

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