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MIXING EURO & US EQUIPMENT ON THE SAME LAY-OUT

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 4:25 PM
I have European and US equipment but no layout..I only run at my local model rr club, here in England. I wouldn't dream of mixing them ( my Euro is WWII era German, so they would only end up fighting each other, anyway!) However, the point to this is I have recently purchased a Marklin F7 A-B-A set, no 3349 Electro-Motive demonstrator livery, which I would like to operate with my other US equipment, but I need to change the couplings. The model doesn't have a NEM box. Has anyone fitted Kadees to an early Marklin F7?
I have contacted Kadee, but they haven't seen one so can't really help. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thankyou
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 4:25 PM
I have European and US equipment but no layout..I only run at my local model rr club, here in England. I wouldn't dream of mixing them ( my Euro is WWII era German, so they would only end up fighting each other, anyway!) However, the point to this is I have recently purchased a Marklin F7 A-B-A set, no 3349 Electro-Motive demonstrator livery, which I would like to operate with my other US equipment, but I need to change the couplings. The model doesn't have a NEM box. Has anyone fitted Kadees to an early Marklin F7?
I have contacted Kadee, but they haven't seen one so can't really help. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thankyou
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:45 PM
Try a double deck layout with euro on top and US on the bottom (or vice versa). its like two layouts in one, and that euro/US tunnel could be a helix in between them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:45 PM
Try a double deck layout with euro on top and US on the bottom (or vice versa). its like two layouts in one, and that euro/US tunnel could be a helix in between them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:40 AM
well I have US, UK, Russian trains lol but i'm not modeling a time period this layout or country but doing an all time and place lay-out with stuff from the 1800's to present and slowly blending it all in and trying not to make it look messy
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:40 AM
well I have US, UK, Russian trains lol but i'm not modeling a time period this layout or country but doing an all time and place lay-out with stuff from the 1800's to present and slowly blending it all in and trying not to make it look messy
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:45 AM
I have some euro cars mixed within my layout. Mainly because I got a good deal on them and they look very similar often to the american types. For example i have a tanker collection. Well a italian tanker I baught looks just like the other tankers, minus 2 sets of wheels. See my trains came from Euro. traveled through Russia and made it across to Alaska and came down to my neck of the woods. So there is my realism. LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:45 AM
I have some euro cars mixed within my layout. Mainly because I got a good deal on them and they look very similar often to the american types. For example i have a tanker collection. Well a italian tanker I baught looks just like the other tankers, minus 2 sets of wheels. See my trains came from Euro. traveled through Russia and made it across to Alaska and came down to my neck of the woods. So there is my realism. LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:57 PM
I have been mixing Euro and US equipment for sometime. The only things that had to be done was to change the couplers to one standard. I use Kadee. Of cause you will have to do some cutting to make them fit (older Euro euipment) but it is worth it. And painting over the US equipment to either black, red brown, blue or green. In addition, Painting over the road names on the locomotive power. Having the opportunity to travel I have seen mixed equipment being used in real life. If you want to you can cut the buffers off the Euro equipment and use Kadee #5 couplers. I have a mixture of equipment which includes the above mentioned plus Japanese and Chinese equipment.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:57 PM
I have been mixing Euro and US equipment for sometime. The only things that had to be done was to change the couplers to one standard. I use Kadee. Of cause you will have to do some cutting to make them fit (older Euro euipment) but it is worth it. And painting over the US equipment to either black, red brown, blue or green. In addition, Painting over the road names on the locomotive power. Having the opportunity to travel I have seen mixed equipment being used in real life. If you want to you can cut the buffers off the Euro equipment and use Kadee #5 couplers. I have a mixture of equipment which includes the above mentioned plus Japanese and Chinese equipment.
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Monday, December 29, 2003 12:11 PM
Chester,

I once designed a Euro (Swiss)/ American (WV) layout for a client and then proceeded to convince him not to go that route.
This was a peninsula layout with a high mountain ridge in the middle. The right side was NW in the hollers, the other side was RhB/FO on the mountainside. It would have worked but I knew he wouldn't have been happy in the long run.
Not if you look to the proto for inspiration[;)][:)]

If OTOH you just want to "play" with trains, you can do whatever turns your crank.
Cheers HJ http://www.rhb-grischun.ca/ http://www.easternmountainmodels.com
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Monday, December 29, 2003 12:11 PM
Chester,

I once designed a Euro (Swiss)/ American (WV) layout for a client and then proceeded to convince him not to go that route.
This was a peninsula layout with a high mountain ridge in the middle. The right side was NW in the hollers, the other side was RhB/FO on the mountainside. It would have worked but I knew he wouldn't have been happy in the long run.
Not if you look to the proto for inspiration[;)][:)]

If OTOH you just want to "play" with trains, you can do whatever turns your crank.
Cheers HJ http://www.rhb-grischun.ca/ http://www.easternmountainmodels.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:37 AM
I have no interest in being politically or ptototypically correct and am prepared to run any trains I like, so there. I have down about 65 M of G or # 1 gauge and run strictly LGB MTS system, my big mallet loco is so strong with such tremeendous traction it can pull 4 litres of white wine up a 5 % gradient. I also have a small Stainz loco as well as the LCE and they all are aimed at pulling passenger rolling stock. But I can tell you I would really love to own a big American western style Mogul and matching coaches and I will one day when my accountant (wife) releases the funds.

Our house is unusual in that it doesn't have any back yard mearly a series of courtyards which I have dubbed areas 1, 2 , 3 and 4. We started with area 2 and here we have about 40 m right around our pool, entertainment area and barby. It is a great joy to us to have night runnings in conjunction with a barby and have neighbours over and get slowly sozzled watcxhing the spectical of the little windiw lit and rushing through the night.and the reflections in the pool are to die for.

We have recently finnished area 1, which is set in an oriental theme with quarts and other ineresting stones and plants forming a Japanese type area complete with a huge statue of Buda overseeing the whole thing and a 1 M high mulitiered pagoda which houses all the electronics., as this rea is a large reversing loop. This area also contains many other oriental things such as lanterns, an oriental bridge etc all in creams and terra cotta's.

Our next project will be area 3 which will be our main and most technical area and will take about 70 M track. It will be a double flopped type dogs bone and will be set around the dramatic and nearby Glasshouse Mountains with at lest two near prototypical mountains Mount Beerburrum and Mount Gnugnu. I have a guy near here who will build them for me in ferro cement, he specialises in these things. Near Mount Berburrum is a place called Beerwah, which of course is where Steve Erwin lives and where his Australian Zoo is located and I'm going to get a carictature of him and hid Zoo done roughly very roughly to scale.

These areas wil all be connected up to each other indeed area 1 is only an adjunct to area 2 at this time; hence the need for rmotely conntrolled MTS type of controls.

This area where we are is called The Sunshine Coast and is on the Coral Sea and only about 300 Km from the Tropic of Cancer, so it is summer just about all year round. My home is on Kawana Island and this an island in the Mooloola River and I am interested if anyone has had experience in running trains outdoors on an island in the tropics.

Love to hear if anyone can give me any ideas;


Regards

Ian
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:37 AM
I have no interest in being politically or ptototypically correct and am prepared to run any trains I like, so there. I have down about 65 M of G or # 1 gauge and run strictly LGB MTS system, my big mallet loco is so strong with such tremeendous traction it can pull 4 litres of white wine up a 5 % gradient. I also have a small Stainz loco as well as the LCE and they all are aimed at pulling passenger rolling stock. But I can tell you I would really love to own a big American western style Mogul and matching coaches and I will one day when my accountant (wife) releases the funds.

Our house is unusual in that it doesn't have any back yard mearly a series of courtyards which I have dubbed areas 1, 2 , 3 and 4. We started with area 2 and here we have about 40 m right around our pool, entertainment area and barby. It is a great joy to us to have night runnings in conjunction with a barby and have neighbours over and get slowly sozzled watcxhing the spectical of the little windiw lit and rushing through the night.and the reflections in the pool are to die for.

We have recently finnished area 1, which is set in an oriental theme with quarts and other ineresting stones and plants forming a Japanese type area complete with a huge statue of Buda overseeing the whole thing and a 1 M high mulitiered pagoda which houses all the electronics., as this rea is a large reversing loop. This area also contains many other oriental things such as lanterns, an oriental bridge etc all in creams and terra cotta's.

Our next project will be area 3 which will be our main and most technical area and will take about 70 M track. It will be a double flopped type dogs bone and will be set around the dramatic and nearby Glasshouse Mountains with at lest two near prototypical mountains Mount Beerburrum and Mount Gnugnu. I have a guy near here who will build them for me in ferro cement, he specialises in these things. Near Mount Berburrum is a place called Beerwah, which of course is where Steve Erwin lives and where his Australian Zoo is located and I'm going to get a carictature of him and hid Zoo done roughly very roughly to scale.

These areas wil all be connected up to each other indeed area 1 is only an adjunct to area 2 at this time; hence the need for rmotely conntrolled MTS type of controls.

This area where we are is called The Sunshine Coast and is on the Coral Sea and only about 300 Km from the Tropic of Cancer, so it is summer just about all year round. My home is on Kawana Island and this an island in the Mooloola River and I am interested if anyone has had experience in running trains outdoors on an island in the tropics.

Love to hear if anyone can give me any ideas;


Regards

Ian
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:36 AM
Hey Ian,

Whatever turns your crank! [;)][:)]

I guess you could do the same on an indoor layout in any scale. It would be a fine assortment of "whatever", but it wouldn't be a model railroad.
Of course that's strictly my opinion.
Cheers HJ http://www.rhb-grischun.ca/ http://www.easternmountainmodels.com
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:36 AM
Hey Ian,

Whatever turns your crank! [;)][:)]

I guess you could do the same on an indoor layout in any scale. It would be a fine assortment of "whatever", but it wouldn't be a model railroad.
Of course that's strictly my opinion.
Cheers HJ http://www.rhb-grischun.ca/ http://www.easternmountainmodels.com

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