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Posted by henry6 on Monday, May 4, 2009 9:23 AM

Love the pic of the terminal...it shows right where I was standing and where Virginia City was parked, right on the farthest track to the right of the picture.  But Dave, the Lackawanna Terminal and Ferry Slips was just over a mile to the right.  The important place I am asking about is just to the right, out of the frame, of the picture...and before Todd Shipyards, Stevens Institute, and Lipton Tea buildings and the air shafts for the Lincoln and North River Tunnels 

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, May 4, 2009 5:27 AM
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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, May 4, 2009 4:09 AM

The Delaware Lackawanna and Western Hoboken Terminal with its ferry slips and car float facilities

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, May 3, 2009 6:53 PM

OK.  What I saw was Lucious Beebe's private car Virginia City docked at the West Shore/O&W terminal in Weehauken, NJ.  I am told the he preferred the WS to the NYC just for the fun of it when he had the choice while visiting the Big Apple.

Make up question then: Presuming I was looking at the car above from the south end of the property, if I had partly around, what other major NY Harbor site would I have been looking at?

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Posted by henry6 on Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:21 PM

Another clue: you can find a picture of the same thing I saw...I don't remember for sure where I saw the picture...but if I told you where I think I saw it, then you'd have the answer!

 

I'm gonna leave this go through the weekend giving you all a chance to guess.  And besides, I don't have another question at hand!

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:42 PM

No...but that reminds me of the time I did see an Armour yellow Pullman on DL&W train 2 eastbound through Denville, NJ...it was named "Lake Hopactcong" which is a North Jersey lake and not on UP.  But that's niether here nor there now is it.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:18 PM

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Sperry cars were not Armour Yellow, this car was.  And it had brass railings!

 

Was it a through UP Pullman car, City of Los Angeles, eastbound, L.A. -  KC - St. Louis and from there PRR to Penna. Station/NYC? 

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:57 PM

Sperry cars were not Armour Yellow, this car was.  And it had brass railings!

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:11 PM

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Three "no's".  And I did not say it was a UP business car; I said it "appeared to be".

A yellow-painted Sperry car?  -  a.s.

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:48 PM

Three "no's".  And I did not say it was a UP business car; I said it "appeared to be".

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:46 PM

Henry,

I''ll list a few possible locations where you saw the UP Business Car. My guesses range from the most probable (No. 1) to the least likely (No.3).

1.In the consist of a NYC mainline passenger train at GCT

2. On the NYC "High Line" which as I recall ran from 34th St. to the St. Johns (or was it St. James) Freight Terminal

3.On a car float crossing the Hudson

If any of these is correct I'll try to come up with a logical explanation of why the car was in NY City,

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:37 PM

WWWaaaallllll...if it were that simple I would not have brought it up.  And you missed a clue.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:25 PM

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As a youngster in the late 40's and early 50's getting round the NY Metropolitan area to see trains and railroading produced a myriad of scenes, equipment, and technologies.  One of the most impressionable suprises happend one day when I saw what appeared to be a Union Pacific business car?  Where would I have seen it, why there, and who would do a thing like that?

I would not think that would be a surprise at all.  And I can guess a whole lot....

I'll guess Grand Central Station. 

why and who (the list is endless)?
UP Executives attending some rail related conference.
UP Executives  working an interchange deal with one of the eastern railroads.
UP Executives trying to do a merger deal.
UP Executives securing financing or announcing something on wall street.
UP Executives wifes just visiting and doing some Christmas shopping at Sack's 5th Avenue.

On a whole different train of thought.

The car was seen on the docks.

It was new and being shipped from the plant to the rails.
It was in need of repair and being shipped back to be refurbished.
It was being shipped overseas for a tour.
 

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:30 AM

I know so little compared to most of you even sleeping on the thought of a queston produces little, but here goes:

As a youngster in the late 40's and early 50's getting round the NY Metropolitan area to see trains and railroading produced a myriad of scenes, equipment, and technologies.  One of the most impressionable suprises happend one day when I saw what appeared to be a Union Pacific business car?  Where would I have seen it, why there, and who would do a thing like that?

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:17 PM

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The ANSWERS

1.  What railroad was the first to employ dining car waitresses instead of waiters, and what train/route was this on?  Chespeake and Ohio - With the acquisition of the Pere Marquette came the major change in tradition. Waitresses were employed on Prior PM routes between Chicago & Buffalo.

2. What railroads dining cars were "famous" for, exclusive of, or had a specialty of:

1. baked potato - Northern Pacific
2. french toast - Santa Fe (a 1918 Fred Harvey recipe)
3. corn bread pie - Baltimore & Ohio (passengers would continue past their stops to have 2nd helpings)
4. shrimp creole  (also exclusively on what train?) - Illinois Central; City of New Orleans
5. baked corn & tomatoes - Chicago Burlington & Quincy; P.M. Scott's recipe he got from his mother.
6. Colorado mountain trout, Saute Meuniere - Rock Island; Rocky Mountain Rocket
7. The Kings Dinner ($9.85 in 1965) (exclusive to what train?) - Illinois Central; The Panama Limited
8. hickory smoke country ham - Louisville & Nashville; One of Clifford J. Haury's many recipes for ham that been aged 18-24 months (1920).
9. reindeer mulligan, hunter style - Great Northern
10. turkey isabelle - Missouri Pacific (1930)

 

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Monday, April 27, 2009 11:31 PM

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Well of course the name was unwanted because of it being Japanese. MacArthur was the US General in the Pacific Theater of WWII.  But I missed the southeast clue, so I will guess either Seaboard or ACL.

Well, you answered two out of three, so no one else can top that. The railroad was the Central of Georgia. I have a memory that another road tried this, but the CoG was the one I knew in the SE. It's your question.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, April 27, 2009 10:55 PM

henry6

Well of course the name was unwanted because of it being Japanese. MacArthur was the US General in the Pacific Theater of WWII.  But I missed the southeast clue, so I will guess either Seaboard or ACL.

Well, you answered two out of three, so no one else can top that. The railroad was the Central of Georgia. I have a memory that another road tried this, but the CoG was the one I knew in the SE. It's your question.

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, April 27, 2009 7:06 PM

Well of course the name was unwanted because of it being Japanese. MacArthur was the US General in the Pacific Theater of WWII.  But I missed the southeast clue, so I will guess either Seaboard or ACL.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, April 27, 2009 6:09 PM

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Well, I am pretty sure it was Mikado but the railroad is a guess: Santa Fe?

Henry, you are right that "Mikado" was an unwanted name. But, why? And, what road in the Southeast (the Santa Fe did operate into Louisiana, but it was not really considered to be a Southeastern road)?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Monday, April 27, 2009 4:34 PM

But Santa Fe's track was almost entirely in the U.S. Midwest and southwest (also Texas).  Except for Texas, it wasn't a southeastern rwy.

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, April 27, 2009 4:23 PM

Well, I am pretty sure it was Mikado but the railroad is a guess: Santa Fe?

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, April 27, 2009 3:23 PM

Texas Zepher
Looks like this question has run its time.  I'm going to give Deggesty the win so he can post the next question.

Here's a quick one. About sixty-seven years ago, one railroad in the Southeast decided to rename its engines of one type "MacArthur," and stop using the name that all other railroads had used (and still use). What was the road, what is the commonly accepted name, and why was the name changed? The change did not last long.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, April 27, 2009 2:05 PM

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Colo. Mountain Trout - Rock Island

Whoo hoo!.  With each set of guesses you get one more!

Looks like this question has run its time.  I'm going to give Deggesty the win so he can post the next question.  I'll post the summary of this one a bit later (when I get my notes back in my hand.).

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Friday, April 24, 2009 3:41 PM

 

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Shrimp Creole  -  IC - Yes,  exclusively on the City of New Orleans

Colorado Mountain Trout  -  WP - No

Reindeer Mulligan  -  ARR - No, but a good guess as the reindeer came from Alaska.

Turkey Isabella  -  B&M - No, as near as I can tell the B&M's signature dish was clam chowder.

 

 

Well, at least I got one -- guessing out the rest, I'll hazard

Colo. Mountain Trout - Rock Island

Reindeer Mulligan - BC Rail

Turkey Isabella - NYC      Dunce

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Posted by henry6 on Friday, April 24, 2009 3:41 PM

WAGs for fun: Colorado Mt. Trout:  SP&S

                      Reindeer Mulligan: Q, NS and L or MC

                      Turkey Isabella...I'm leanin' toward an eastern road like DL&W, Erie, or LV.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, April 24, 2009 1:48 PM

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Shrimp Creole  -  IC - Yes,  exclusively on the City of New Orleans

Colorado Mountain Trout  -  WP - No

Reindeer Mulligan  -  ARR - No, but a good guess as the reindeer came from Alaska.

Turkey Isabella  -  B&M - No, as near as I can tell the B&M's signature dish was clam chowder.

 

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:22 PM

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2. French Toast - Santa Fe - Yes

4. Shrimp Creole - Southern Crescent - No, and I can't think of a hint.

6.  CO Mountain Trout - Union Pacific - No, every one is overlooking the Saute Meuniere part

8. Hickory Smoked Country Ham - L&N - Yes

9. Reindeer Mulligan - BC Ry - No, don't forget the "hunters style" part.  The dish included a book explaining that reindeer had been domesticated so didn't taste the same.

10. Turkey Isabella - New Haven - No, the Chief  was Henry Bausbach

 

these are guesses: 

Shrimp Creole  -  IC

Colorado Mountain Trout  -  WP

Reindeer Mulligan  -  ARR 

Turkey Isabella  -  B&M 

 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:04 PM

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2. French Toast - Santa Fe - Yes

4. Shrimp Creole - Southern Crescent - No, and I can't think of a hint.

6.  CO Mountain Trout - Union Pacific - No, every one is overlooking the Saute Meuniere part

8. Hickory Smoked Country Ham - L&N - Yes

9. Reindeer Mulligan - BC Ry - No, don't forget the "hunters style" part.  The dish included a book explaining that reindeer had been domesticated so didn't taste the same.

10. Turkey Isabella - New Haven - No, the Chief  was Henry Bausbach

 

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Posted by KCSfan on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:51 PM

2. French Toast - Santa Fe

4. Shrimp Creole - Southern Crescent

6.  CO Mountain Trout - Union Pacific

8. Hickory Smoked Country Ham - L&N

9. Reindeer Mulligan - BC Ry

10. Turkey Isabella - New Haven

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:58 PM

Deggesty
The Pere Marquette (C&O) employed waitresses on the Pere Marquette, in Michigan.

Correct on both counts.


1. Baked potato: Northern Pacific
6. Colorado mountain trout: I guess D&RGW, though it might have been the Santa Fe
7. King’s Dinner: Illinois Central’s Panama Limited


Correct
Incorrect (D&RGW & Santa Fe both had really good trout but not this specialty)
Correct
 

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