The new walkways are (AFIK) made of fiberglass. We have similar on a ramp from the sacristy to the courtyard, and so I paid particular attention to them.
Those are not rails waiting to be picked up. Those are GUARD RAILS in case a train derails up there it should be retained on the structure and not fall down to the street below. In days of old when els ruled the road, 6x6 wooden beams on the outside of the tracks served this purpose.
LION calls these guard rails, and this, I am told is correct, LION said to others that when the guard rails were closer to the running rail that they were guide rails, but him found out this is not sooth. They are still guard rails. All elevated subways have guard rails, frequently only on one side, LION will have to install same on his layout.
Further, NYCT does leave spare rails in the middle of the gauge so that if a rail breaks, there is a spare near by. It is difficult to get rails into tunnels or up onto structures, so spares are there. See the near track in the photo below. A spare is under the first overpass. Getting rails, and cranes into tunnels is a problem, sending a crew of four men down there with a power saw can use that spare to make a replacement in a half an hour or so. The can even weld it in place with hand tools.
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In my era the wooden beams were replaced with guard rails that looked like regular rr guard rails, much closer to the running rails. On elevated stuctures. But not in the subways or on grade or in cuts. The tracks on the Brighton and Sea Bach lines looked just like any regular railroad that electrified with a protected overruning third rail, like the LIRR.
Do you know in general the years the wood walkways were replaced with plastic? I think this must be after 1996.
daveklepperDo you know in general the years the wood walkways were replaced with plastic? I think this must be after 1996.
There still are a few wooden walkways left, but I have no idea when the new ones began to appear.
BroadwayLion
Where was this pix taken? Are we looking at multiple lines?
My guess is that this is looking south from an overpass at Northern Coney Island Yard toward Stillwelll Avenue Station, with the West End line on the curving ramp on the right ("D" curently, was "B"), and three-to-four and then three tracks wiith concrete ties on two of the four being the Sea Beach line ("N"). Lots, lots of new buildings on the left since I was there. Good apartments for subway train fans, but otherwise, wonder if they mind the noise.
daveklepperMy guess is that this is looking south from an overpass at Northern Coney Island Yard toward Stillwelll Avenue Station
But your guess is wrong. You are not even in the right county!
LION is riding on the (7) train as it enters the El. I am looking out of the starboard window at the LIRR tracks east of Long Island City.
LION stays on IRT, on (1) train leaving 42nd Street for da Bronix.
I'll take another guess. It is LIRR trackage, not subway lines. That is a fact, not a guess. And the view is from a No, 7 line station, also a fact, not a guess. But the guess is that it is from the Woodside Station city-bound platform looking west.
LION thinks you should quit while you are a head. This is taken just as the (7) train emerges from the Steinway Tunnel at Hunters Point Avenue, you are looking east at LIRR tracks west of Harold Tower. Sunnyside yards are still well east of this location.
Image from Google Maps... LION added.
I think I am doing pretty well, enjoying it, and hope to continue. Why object? Keeps me from getting Altzheimee's. So consider this one of your many good deeds. (I am 81-1/2.)
I believe the lower one is on the L Canarsie Line near the East 55th Street station, or the last stop, Rockaway Avenue (Pkwy?) looking north. The road overpass is new, probably built since I have been there, but in the background dimly seen is the IRT line to New Lots Avenue.
I would have guessed the upper one as on the Flushing Line, 7, looking toward Manhattan, but the red circle in the top center of the distant train identifies it as 1, 2, or 3, so my guess is on Westchester Avenue somehwere south of 177th Street Station on the 2 and 5 line, with the train shown being a 2, looking south from the front window of a 5.
I actually ID'd the top one as Flushing, but in checking the Chain Lines for the IRT, we find that the F chain on the Lenox Ave-White Plains Road line. The Chain line is the measurement from a know zero point, the letter tells which line it is, so looking at that signal 25,800 feet north of 96st street. on the number 3 track. (Almost 5 miles).
For the second picture, that was taken on the East 180th Street platform in the Bronx (same line). Those newer cars (The R142s) are being rebuilt and are moving to the Flushing line, the R-63s of the Flushing line will be going to the (6) line. The flushing Line is to be automated after the same manner as the (L) line.
More about chains here.
You confirmed about what I wrote about southern Westchester Avenue, tracks used by trains both to White Plains Rd (Ave. except on subway signs) and Dyer Avenue, 2 and 5 respectively, with 5 thru expresses using the center track and running nonstop 149-180 to White Plains Road. Actually south of Freeman Street. Betwee
BroadwayLion I actually ID'd the top one as Flushing, but in checking the Chain Lines for the IRT, we find that the F chain on the Lenox Ave-White Plains Road line. The Chain line is the measurement from a know zero point, the letter tells which line it is, so looking at that signal 25,800 feet north of 96st street. on the number 3 track. (Almost 5 miles). For the second picture, that was taken on the East 180th Street platform in the Bronx (same line). Those newer cars (The R142s) are being rebuilt and are moving to the Flushing line, the R-63s of the Flushing line will be going to the (6) line. The flushing Line is to be automated after the same manner as the (L) line. More about chains here. ROAR
The photo you identify as at E180 could not possibly be there. The RifW both south and north of E180 is for three tracks, not two. And there is a fourth track with a flyover to the old NYW&B RofW northbound. Furthermore, the line northbound curves to the left leaving E180 (not the NYW&B RofW to Dyer which is straight, after the switches and flyover) and looking to the south the RofW cuves to the right and is on an elevated structure. I am pretty certain it is the Canarsie line, with the trailing switch on the right leading to t he small yard, the level auto parking, and the structure of the New Lots line in the distant background.
It may be of interest to note that in the South Bronx, the 6 is under Southern Blvd, and the 2 and 5 over Westchester Avenue (also 2nd then 3rd Ave. El trains rush hours in the distant past), while in the North Bronx the 6 is over Westchester Avenue and a short bit of the 2 and 5 over Southern Boulevard.
I had thought that the small operating yard on the south side of the 2 and 5 line running mostly E-W between E180 and E177 was torn down, but apparently it still exists or at least still did when this photo was taken. Looks to me like the R33-36's shown are laid up and not at the moment in service and that you are photographing from the side of a passing 2 or 5 train. It is or was a yard on an elevated structure.
The photo was taken this summer.
The Redbirds are clearly work motors of some sort.
glad to know the litle (by NY standards) yard is still there.
and was probably full during Sandy
daveklepper and was probably full during Sandy
Well, LENOX yard is low area, and trains would evacuate up there. but that is not all that many.
BMT/IND equipment cannot go there. They would smack into the platforms.
You are correct the BMT-IND equipment could not go there. In addition to Lenox there is the small underground yard between 137th and 145th under Broadway. Makes sence that they use`the old reliable "Red Birds" as work motors. The R33-R36's were originally in a light blue and cream color scheme for the '64 Worlds Fair, then dark blue and grey, and then red. The R33's were married pairs and the R36's the single cars. Instead of having operable window sash like the previous SMEEE cars, they have the tilt-ins. Originally, they only ran on the 7.
daveklepperIn addition to Lenox there is the small underground yard between 137th and 145th under Broadway.
The 137th Street yard is way high above sea level, and while it is underground there is no way it can be flooded. The previous stop was 125th Street. 137th Street is at the same elevation r/t sea level as the 125th Street Station.
Lenox Avenue on the other hand is in a deep valley, probably was a water channel at one time.
You are correct on two counts, it is above sea level, and it won't be flooded. Good photoograph, and thanks for posting. How about the surface Westchester Yard, fairly close to Pelham Bay, off the 6 line with a grade approach to the elevated structure? Was it completely free of flooding? I know the Broadway 238th St and Concourse-Jerome yards were high enough, but what about Westchester?
daveklepperWas it completely free of flooding?
Nope. It looks like it flooded. (LION look at google map of floods.)
Then we can be assured that the E177 Yard WAS full!
But with respect to the track between 125 and 137 on Broadway, you are correct and it is level. Inspection of your photograph shows the front of the train vertical and parallel with the vertical windows of the adjacent buildings.
I have a photo in the opposite direction from 125th, toward 116th St. showing the Low-V nostalgia train on the center track, and once I figure out how to post, I will do so. It is an important photo for me because it shows the Jewish Theological Seminary building on the left side of Broadway, where I studied for my Bar Mitzvah. Of course I was continually distracted by the subway trains and Huffliner and convertable streetcars easily seen out the window.
The newly refurbished platform at Dyckman Street.
Am I supposed to guess whether it is the northbound or southbound platform? I think I will pass on that!
Clearly this is the northbound side, the southbound side does not have a retaining wall.
No point in even trying to guess this one, I know knot the answer. Yes, it is at Atlantic Avenue, but it could be on the IRT, the BMT, or the LIRR,
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