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50 years later - CSX heritage units

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Posted by PennsyBoomer on Thursday, January 4, 2024 6:14 PM

So where's the Reading Lines? A significant part of the route to Jersey.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Thursday, January 4, 2024 6:30 PM

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22 days to do a paint job.  

 

And they still only did the back 2/3 of the loco.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, January 4, 2024 10:37 PM

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22 days to do a paint job.   

And they still only did the back 2/3 of the loco.

The whole engine got painted - not just the NYC portion.

Maybe it will work its way to Cartersville and the locals will give it the 20th Century Limited Hudson treatment on its lead end.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, January 5, 2024 3:23 AM

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BaltACD

22 days to do a paint job.   

And they still only did the back 2/3 of the loco.

 

 

CSX not doing the nose of their heritage units is poor IMO.  The ACL purple people eater noses were very unique as one example.

 

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Posted by OWTX on Friday, January 5, 2024 7:40 AM

So the elves weren't toiling away on Christmas Eve shooting another coat of candy apple red on the sleigh?

Wait till Santa finds out!

 

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, January 5, 2024 7:50 AM

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22 days to do a paint job.   

And they still only did the back 2/3 of the loco. 

CSX not doing the nose of their heritage units is poor IMO.  The ACL purple people eater noses were very unique as one example.

CSX is staying consistent with their 'theme' across all their heritage units.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, January 5, 2024 10:08 AM

The CSX Heritage fleet falls somewhere between UP and NS but a little closer to NS.  I would give them credit for being distinctive.

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, January 5, 2024 10:24 AM

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The CSX Heritage fleet falls somewhere between UP and NS but a little closer to NS.  I would give them credit for being distinctive.

 

 

I like them better than BNSF's "Sticker" bonnets

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Posted by kgbw49 on Friday, January 5, 2024 12:43 PM

BaltACD

 

 
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BaltACD

22 days to do a paint job.   

And they still only did the back 2/3 of the loco.

 

The whole engine got painted - not just the NYC portion.

Maybe it will work its way to Cartersville and the locals will give it the 20th Century Limited Hudson treatment on its lead end.

 

LOL! Well played, Balt! Well played indeed! Double LOL!

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, January 14, 2024 10:49 AM

Agreed. I wanted to like these, but I'm just not feeling it. I get what they're trying to go for, but it just doesn't really excite me. But hey, lots of other HUs to fan from other railroads.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:11 AM

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Agreed. I wanted to like these, but I'm just not feeling it. I get what they're trying to go for, but it just doesn't really excite me. But hey, lots of other HUs to fan from other railroads.

 
You should come over to Chicago.  Metra has four Heritage units (C&NW, MILW, CB&Q and RI), each running on their respective routes.  Iowa Interstate has two distince Rock Island Heritage units.
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Posted by xBNSFer on Monday, January 22, 2024 4:33 PM

I doubt rights issues are involved; NS has both NYC and PRR "heritage" units, after all. If the "rights" were allocated PRR-NS/NYC-CSX, that wouldn't be the case.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, January 23, 2024 11:49 AM

CSX pays tribute to the Monon

 

Personally, for the Monon it should be black and gold on one side and crimson and white on the other as the Monon paid tribute to both Purdue University and Indiana University with the paint schemes for their equipment.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, January 23, 2024 12:07 PM

Part of the Monon is being revived and rebuilt by NICTD between State Line and Dyer.  An interesting turn of events for those who remember that Monon bid on South Shore in the early 1960's, only to be outbid by C&O.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, January 23, 2024 12:44 PM

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Personally, for the Monon it should be black and gold on one side and crimson and white on the other as the Monon paid tribute to both Purdue University and Indiana University with the paint schemes for their equipment.

But it's a freight engine.  Wasn't the red for passenger?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, January 24, 2024 9:59 AM

Overmod

 

 
BaltACD
Personally, for the Monon it should be black and gold on one side and crimson and white on the other as the Monon paid tribute to both Purdue University and Indiana University with the paint schemes for their equipment.

 

But it's a freight engine.  Wasn't the red for passenger? 

It started out that way, although the passenger colors with that wide gray stripe made it look more like Ohio State than Indiana.  I can recall what was left of the "Thoroughbred" in black and gold pulled by an RS2 or C420.

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Posted by fifedog on Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:59 AM

This pair showed up in Cumberland yesterday, on CSX M216. It was 1897's first trip thru here, but not sure if same for 1853...

Heritage Units in Cumberland! CSX 1897 MONON & CSX 1853 NYC - YouTube

BaltACD - I agree with you on the dual-scheme MONON thing.

Trackside, the MONON striping appears slightly more gold then the side sill striping. But the NYC unit looks quite sharp, in person.

 

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Tuesday, February 6, 2024 10:38 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

 

 
Lord Atmo

Agreed. I wanted to like these, but I'm just not feeling it. I get what they're trying to go for, but it just doesn't really excite me. But hey, lots of other HUs to fan from other railroads.

 

 

 
You should come over to Chicago.  Metra has four Heritage units (C&NW, MILW, CB&Q and RI), each running on their respective routes.  Iowa Interstate has two distince Rock Island Heritage units.
 

 

 

I definitely need to spend more time around Metra when I'm down there. I make a handful of Chicago trips each year too! I just usually spend most of my time at IRM because of CNW 7009. But thanks for reminding me to head downtown more often!

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, April 4, 2024 3:55 PM

Just released heritage unit 1852 honoring the Western Maryland

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, April 5, 2024 7:32 PM

Penn Central heritage

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, April 5, 2024 8:12 PM

Shouldn't that be road number 1968?

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Friday, April 5, 2024 8:26 PM

The Western Maryland one doesn't quite do it for me. While I'd of course prefer to see them go all the way with these, the blend job manages to work for most of what they've done in my eyes. But it's not quite there with this one.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, April 5, 2024 8:28 PM

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Shouldn't that be road number 1968?

That could be the year that ConRail paid off all PC's debts through bankruptcy courts, with ConRail becoming solvent at that time.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Friday, April 5, 2024 8:51 PM

1997 was the year CSX and NS agreed to acquire Conrail through a joint stock purchase.

CSX owns 42% of that Penn Central paint - NS owns 58% of that Penn Central paint. (Note tongue in cheek.)

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, April 5, 2024 9:15 PM

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1997 was the year CSX and NS agreed to acquire Conrail through a joint stock purchase.

Which would be good for a ConRail unit - but not a PC

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, April 5, 2024 9:29 PM

Conrail got 1976

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Posted by kgbw49 on Friday, April 5, 2024 11:09 PM

Hmmm, I wonder why they did not go for 1968 for Penn Central as rdamon suggests?

Here is an article by the great Don Phillips summarizing the proposed Conrail split between NS and CSX.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1997/03/05/conrail-merger-map-shows-proposed-lines-of-competition/b37ee266-1198-4542-9402-3ea02a92b569/

 

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Posted by kgbw49 on Saturday, April 6, 2024 8:26 AM

A few years ago railroad artist Andy Fletcher, who had worked on the Norfolk Southern heritage units, came up with a slate of proposed CSX heritage units.

CSX is doing their own versions of course, but so far Mr. Fletcher's proposed slate has seen a number of proposed heritage units from that slate roll out of the paint booth at Waycross.

Here is a link to Mr. Fletcher's work.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/403414358345

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Saturday, April 6, 2024 9:44 AM

His look so much nicer. At least he painted the entire locomotive with the heritage scheme. I can respect the symbolism CSX was trying for, but the execution of it just gives the locomotives an unfinished appearance. I agree with everyone who says the WM unit is actually the Texas flag unit. 

maybe if the cab and nose were the CSX pattern, but in the same colors as the heritage scheme? 

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Posted by rdamon on Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:16 PM

kgbw49

Hmmm, I wonder why they did not go for 1968 for Penn Central as rdamon suggests?

Here is an article by the great Don Phillips summarizing the proposed Conrail split between NS and CSX.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1997/03/05/conrail-merger-map-shows-proposed-lines-of-competition/b37ee266-1198-4542-9402-3ea02a92b569/

 

 

 

The PC photo above looks like the work of MS Paint. :)

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