Since CN has a chronic dislike for repainting old locomotives, there is not shortage of now fallen flags to see on that line....BC Rail, WC, IC, GTW....sure, they might be getting faded and dirty, but they still keep showing up...
Although I do know what you mean, and I think that may well be an interesting idea for other RR's as well
-Tim
THayman wrote: Since CN has a chronic dislike for repainting old locomotives, there is not shortage of now fallen flags to see on that line....BC Rail, WC, IC, GTW....sure, they might be getting faded and dirty, but they still keep showing up... Although I do know what you mean, and I think that may well be an interesting idea for other RR's as well
Well, you obviously haven't visited the WC lately.
Only 2 SW1500s are left in WC paint, and roughly 10 other WC painted locos are left.
I have no idea why no IC stuff got repainted, and I see my fair share of GTW quite often.
Phil
wgnrr wrote: THayman wrote: Since CN has a chronic dislike for repainting old locomotives, there is not shortage of now fallen flags to see on that line....BC Rail, WC, IC, GTW....sure, they might be getting faded and dirty, but they still keep showing up... Although I do know what you mean, and I think that may well be an interesting idea for other RR's as well Well, you obviously haven't visited the WC lately.Only 2 SW1500s are left in WC paint, and roughly 10 other WC painted locos are left.I have no idea why no IC stuff got repainted, and I see my fair share of GTW quite often.Phil
Ok, sorry 'bout that. I was just speaking from what I've seen up in Southeast Ontario. I have seen a few WC units around (albeit not in a little while)...I know originally a lot of the SD45's were still hanging around in WC paint, but I realize those were being faded out
Some RRs have official heritage locos (UP,NS,CP) and some have "unofficial" heritage locos (CN, CSX, CP) which are basically predecessor power that has not been repainted yet.
crpulse wrote:Some RRs have official heritage locos (UP,NS,CP) and some have "unofficial" heritage locos (CN, CSX, CP) which are basically predecessor power that has not been repainted yet.
and BNSF
The Finger Lakes Railway of central New York painted up this "heritage" unit in a classic Lehigh Valley scheme..the FGLK runs on some original LV trackage.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=552178
Scot
I'd like to see NS do a few. Especially one in the paint scheme of the old NS (The road SOU bought a long time ago. yes there WAS another Norfolk Southern)
and I'd like to see BNSF do a few. GN, NP, ATSF, BN, SLSF, CB&Q, any i forgot
Your friendly neighborhood CNW fan.
Norfolk and Southern/ CSX is way to frugal to paint heritage units, plus there are alot of ex conrail units, look a Juniata shops rip tracks, B23-7's every where. Another thing is I just won't be the same with a SD70m-2 or whatever in conrail colors.
Conrail For ever, and Death to CSX/NS
Tjsingle
csx has a 2667 seaboard unit.there were a few chessies being used as slug units in various yards.I also like the southern unit as well.hope ns keeps her in good shape.
stay safe
Joe
Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
In a sense, KCS is returning to its own heritage because it is phasing out those blah grey-and-yellow-diag freight engines in favor of a "Southern Belle" type scheme. A recent note in TRAINS quoted the pres. to the effect that they could afford to do that now that the road is more profitable.
fafnir242 wrote:Personally, though this may sound strange, I think Amtrak should do something like that. I mean, look how diverse the equipment was back in the early 70s. Idk, just a thought.
That could be interesting, harkening to the "rainbow" era on Amtrak, but the other railroads own the trademarks and I doubt they would let their colors run around on Amtrak.
Or...are you referring to Amtrak repainting a few units into some of their own former colors, e.g. orange nose, Phase I striping with narrow white, Pepsi can, etc?? IMHO doing this could add some fun variety to Amtrak trains.
CSSHEGEWISCH wrote:CP has its business train power in original wine red and gray and the NS business train power is in original SR black and white. Keep in mind that one of the reasons that UP developed the Heritage Fleet was to protect the trademarks.
I may be totally wrong on this but IIRC the Southern Rwy.'s passenger hauling "F" units came in two trim colors: green and brown. I remember from growing up in Southwestern Virginia near Bristol in the 1960s, the brown ones (A+B) hauling the Birmingham Special were the exception to the "change locomotives at Bristol" norm.
Later, in the Seventies, I had the pleasure of riding Mr. Graham Claytor's baby, the refurbished "Southern Crescent," and IIRC its motive power was green. The black units seem to have the exact same paint format, I just don't recall any passenger units of that day being black. Perhaps the black color was a sop to the N&W side of the family, because they had gone to whitish lettering on black bodies even before the N&W / Southern merger in 1982.
Also, and again IIRC, the Norfolk never owned locomotives of the EMD "E" or "F" variety. Stuart Saunders, almost from the minute he took office in 1955, started planning to dieselize the fleet. The engines that wound up hauling N&W varnish post-J class were not carbodies; they looked more like the typical freight-hauling locomotive of the period. (Those I remember from "The Pelican," where the Norfolk did indeed use its own head-end power between Lynchburg, VA and Bristol, VA/TN.)
MILW205 wrote: fafnir242 wrote:Personally, though this may sound strange, I think Amtrak should do something like that. I mean, look how diverse the equipment was back in the early 70s. Idk, just a thought.That could be interesting, harkening to the "rainbow" era on Amtrak, but the other railroads own the trademarks and I doubt they would let their colors run around on Amtrak.Or...are you referring to Amtrak repainting a few units into some of their own former colors, e.g. orange nose, Phase I striping with narrow white, Pepsi can, etc?? IMHO doing this could add some fun variety to Amtrak trains.
Actually, I was referring to the "rainbow era", but I didn't think of the trademarks. That would be a bit of a problem, wouldn't it. However, I didn't think about just repainting into old paint schemes. That might be interesting. Except, do some cars, too, instead of just the units.
HankDiggs wrote:Norfolk Southern 4610 is painted in Southern RR colors with a Southern herald on the hood.
Interesting I never knew that exsisted, thats really cool wish that would get over to Sandusky, Ohio or Bellevue on a day I'm there. Mike
Norfolk Southern painted this locomotive in conrail colors and is in the shared assets in New jersey.
EJE818 wrote:I also would like to see BNSF heritage engines. How about a ES44DC in nice fresh warbonnet paint? That would probably be the neatest GEVO to hit the rails!
I've seen "nice old" but reasonably attractive warbonnets go thru Rochelle; and of course there are the BNSF's with yellow warbonnet over orange (what generation is that?? Heritage Two??).
Maybe if enough people ask often enough BNSF might detail some of its newer fleet in deliberate ATSF and/or BN colors.
On this topic, does anyone know what caused the UP to change its tune and introduce some genuine, new, fallen-flag paint jobs on the engines? Maybe BNSF could roll with that kind of argument, too. All conjecture, of course. I've already complained to Mr. Rose but inasmuch as I am not a stockholder, no chance of changing his mind on the strength of my e-mail.
Another thing is some Es or Fs would look quite nice on the business train! How about some heritage warbonnet Fs for that train?
what with csx's new paint scheme,it wouldn't take to much to make a C&O or B&O heritage unit.
mike t.
It seems like UP takes more pride in their heritage. D&RGW #5371, according to UP, will not be repainted into Armour Yellow. Except that's probably because it is getting ready to be retired like some of the other SD40 series units.
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