Locomotive "Edsels"

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Poppa_Zit

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:32 AM

My vote goes to GM's Aerotrain, the EMD LTW12.

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erikem

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Posted by erikem on Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:49 AM

GE U50C, though that was mostly due to the aluminum wiring.

Alco 855's

EMD SD45X

The EMD SDP40F's weren't as bad as some people make them out to be - the derailment problems were caused more by poor track maintainnence than poor design. The Santa Fe had little trouble with running them at 90 MPH.

rrboomer

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Posted by rrboomer on Friday, November 10, 2006 10:35 PM

Alco's C415 and EMD's RS1325.

Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 10, 2006 9:33 PM

The Krause Maffei Hydraulics (in america)
C&O's M-1 Tubines

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Murphy Siding

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, November 10, 2006 8:36 PM

CShaveRR wrote:

Funny, the BL2s came to my mind, too.

I'd say that EMD's 50 series fits the bill (it found favor with some operators, but then so did the Edsels!).

The SD90MACs have to be on that list, for sure.

As for GE: BQ23-7.

I forgot about the BL2's -woof! Laugh [(-D] Same for BQ23-7, although looks aren't as important as operation. Is the 50 series the one that all the railroads turned back when their leases ended? SD90, I presume, has problems with the prime mover?

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CShaveRR

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, November 10, 2006 8:31 PM

Funny, the BL2s came to my mind, too.

I'd say that EMD's 50 series fits the bill (it found favor with some operators, but then so did the Edsels!).

The SD90MACs have to be on that list, for sure.

As for GE: BQ23-7.

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Pathfinder

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Posted by Pathfinder on Friday, November 10, 2006 8:18 PM

The one that pops up to my mind: EMD BL1/2

Also:
Krauss-Maffei
Baldwin RP-210 lightweight train
EMD LWT12 (AeroTrain)

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Murphy Siding

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Locomotive "Edsels"

Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, November 10, 2006 8:02 PM

A recent thread about Fairbanks-Morse locomotives brought up some interesting info about Alco and GE locomotives. It started me thinking about diesel locomotive turkeys. What can anybody tell me about some of the locomotives that looked better on paper, than in real service. Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 locomotives that were disappointing to their makers: the Baldwin Centipede, the EMD second generation cowl passenger locomotive that like to derail on turns, and the recent EMD that fell out of favor in a hurry-SD60(?) or SD80(?). Any thoughts?

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