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Is this the original shackle car?
Roswell! Roswell! oooooo
actually the descriptions sounds like an ordinary converted troup sleeper which would explain the special unusual suspension, the military (i.e. Pullman) green paint showing through the blue, and the plating over the windows that would look like armour. It might also explain the X if it was in MOW service
Addendum: looking more closely at the picture it clearly is not a former troop sleeper but some sort of baggage car. The story gets ever more interesting .... maybe I was right the first time -- this is the alien autopsy car!
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Pretty interesting story, underground in NYC for how long? And No graffiti! Hard to imagine...
Hopefully, someone will update this posting when Richard Stravopoli gets it open. Kinda looks like an old baggage car from the picture. It will be quite a story when the details are put together.
HMMM... Heavily armored,millitary green paint showing through.
Anything in there besides SHACKLES???
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In the story the mark is reported as MNMCX - which, of course has one too many letters to be a valid mark. The article aludes to "X" meaning something extraordinary, like military, but we all know that just means it's a private car.
Looking up AAR marks, MN and MNCW belong to Metro North. Wanna bet when the guys went down to slap a coat of paint on that car to change it from PC green to blue, they misread the new mark?
UMLER has MNCW 10, 11, 12 as AAR cartype M190, "store supply car". Shows built in Sept 1941 and 85' long - rebuilt in 1994.
I'm thinking the car in question is a cousin to these......
I just joined this forum and was intrigued by the "Mystery Train". I am probably a year late and the mystery already know to all of you train X-perts.
This is what I know about it:
It is FDR's personal rail car that had a ramp to help him get into the Waldorf Astoria unseen by the public. This was done to conceal his polio. The X which makes it one letter too many indicates that the rail car did not belong to the railroad, but to the gov't. It is armor plated and has gun turrets on top.
I saw this on the History Channel.
the history chanel did a show on this car in question about 3 weeks ago.. i cant remember what the titel of it is off the top of my head..but it is a seriouse of shows about what is underground of differnt cities of the world...for example..the ruines of the old eastern roman empire under istanbul and the caticomes under paris... the car in question did belong to Rosovelt and was used to transport him and his armord car...
csx engineer
OK. So where is the proof.
All the "X" means is that the car is not railway owned - as in "Private Car Line" other than AMTK qualified passenger equipment.
Csxeng. -- not trying to be snooty, here, but where is the proof - such as a car number or some other documentation. Otherwise, even if what we think we know is true, all we really know is that we have a fine story.
kenneo wrote: OK. So where is the proof. All the "X" means is that the car is not railway owned - as in "Private Car Line" other than AMTK qualified passenger equipment.Csxeng. -- not trying to be snooty, here, but where is the proof - such as a car number or some other documentation. Otherwise, even if what we think we know is true, all we really know is that we have a fine story.
The proof would have been presented on the Discovery. I have personally not seen this episode, but Discovery Channel usually goes for the truth. Just like on the Titanic Mystery. Discovery Channel has all of the people working together to figure out what really happened.
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The real mystery here is how you could be so gullible. LISTEN to this clown. Everything is amazing and mysterious. He claimed that if the old grand central power rectification systen was sabotaged that the entire war effort would have come to a stop because ALL war materiel passed thru there. You believed that? All war materiel for the East coast passed thru a subway station? He rants about "underground rivers" as tho you could fish in them. He claimed that all you had to do was throw a handfull of sand in the "converters" (motor generator sets) and the gears would be destroyed. There no gears in an mg set. He claimed that the trucks were "overengineered" . They did not even have roller bearings.He looks at the side sill and claims that the sides are at least an inch thick.
Do not believe anything you here on these shows. Recently on Mail Call Ermey cliamed that the B36 bomber had turbo prop engines!.
These people are slipshod at best in there research. This particular show was the worst I've seen.
If you complain to them about factual errors you get a form letter thanking you for your interest.
Actually the Borsig DRG Series 05 002 4-6-4 Was the first to set a steam speed record on 5-11-1936. Speed was 200.4.
-First Diesel Was the DRG SVT 137 :Bauart Leipzig In Germany on 2-17-1936
So far the fastest rocket train is an unmanned rocket sled. Speed was 6453 MPH.
All of this info was found on the link below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_speed_record_for_railed_vehicles
The History Channel has had some real howlers too, unrelated to RRs. I was watching an HC show titled "The Revolution" some years ago (with Walter Cronkite narrating, no less).
In solemn tones Cronkite described the British, before the battle of Saratoga, sending an expedition to outflank the Americans by going up the "St. Lawrence Seaway" to Lake Ontario and then east along the Mohawk River to Albany. Cronkite, of course, was just reading the script he was given.
Yes, such an expedtion did happen, foiled by the battle of Oriskany and the arrival of an American detachment under Benedict Arnold. But the St. Lawrence Seaway wasn't finished until the Eisenhower Administration, and was barely a dream in the 1770s.
And every time some show on Rome refers to Julius Caesar as being a Roman Emperor, I grit my teeth. Every so often they refer to Caesar as a brilliant general who made a play for political power, when the opposite is really true. After a very successful political career, Caesar made a successful play for a plum military command, and succeeded in that as well. It was when he tried to return to politics that the trouble began.
Jack
Kurn wrote: If this was such a big deal,someone would have checked it out long ago.The reporting marks are in white paint,not faded,so aren't 60 years old.They read MNCX 01.Metro-North is not that old,so somebody added the marks fairly recently.So Metro-north certainly knows about it.This has been on at least 3 different shows,with people saying they are going to check into it.Maybe the History Channel is planning a "special" where they cut the lock and look inside.
Jack_S wrote: The History Channel has had some real howlers too, unrelated to RRs. I was watching an HC show titled "The Revolution" some years ago (with Walter Cronkite narrating, no less). In solemn tones Cronkite described the British, before the battle of Saratoga, sending an expedition to outflank the Americans by going up the "St. Lawrence Seaway" to Lake Ontario and then east along the Mohawk River to Albany. Cronkite, of course, was just reading the script he was given.Yes, such an expedtion did happen, foiled by the battle of Oriskany and the arrival of an American detachment under Benedict Arnold. But the St. Lawrence Seaway wasn't finished until the Eisenhower Administration, and was barely a dream in the 1770s.And every time some show on Rome refers to Julius Caesar as being a Roman Emperor, I grit my teeth. Every so often they refer to Caesar as a brilliant general who made a play for political power, when the opposite is really true. After a very successful political career, Caesar made a successful play for a plum military command, and succeeded in that as well. It was when he tried to return to politics that the trouble began.Jack
I bet he was talking the present day seaway.
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