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Posted by silicon212 on Monday, July 24, 2006 4:07 PM

"7132 East with engineer Jones, you are authorized work and time in 3 blocks, Mesa through Magma, until 3am"

"7132 East with engineer Jones, I am authorized work and time in 3 blocks, Mesa through Magma, until 3am .."

"7132 East that is correct"

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Posted by zgardner18 on Monday, July 24, 2006 4:07 PM

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Start with the 'Sunset,' double track it, and watch the cash roll in.  From there, you could buy back the rest.  One step at  a time, gentlemen.My 2 cents [2c]  

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Posted by canazar on Monday, July 24, 2006 4:42 PM
 silicon212 wrote:

"7132 East with engineer Jones, you are authorized work and time in 3 blocks, Mesa through Magma, until 3am"

"7132 East with engineer Jones, I am authorized work and time in 3 blocks, Mesa through Magma, until 3am .."

"7132 East that is correct"

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Hey!  Thats my stomping grounds....   I admit, with everyone so scattered over the country, its pretty weird to see someone talk about my back yard.

I am sorry to say but the UP is all ready startign to double up the Sunset route.   Maybe start to see if the UP wants to spin off local routes like BNSF has.   Start there.

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Posted by silicon212 on Monday, July 24, 2006 4:50 PM
 canazar wrote:
 silicon212 wrote:

"7132 East with engineer Jones, you are authorized work and time in 3 blocks, Mesa through Magma, until 3am"

"7132 East with engineer Jones, I am authorized work and time in 3 blocks, Mesa through Magma, until 3am .."

"7132 East that is correct"

BRING BACK DTC!

 

Hey!  Thats my stomping grounds....   I admit, with everyone so scattered over the country, its pretty weird to see someone talk about my back yard.

I am sorry to say but the UP is all ready startign to double up the Sunset route.   Maybe start to see if the UP wants to spin off local routes like BNSF has.   Start there.

 

It's my stomping grounds, too.  I still have my 1992 SPINS booklet somewhere (actually, two copies) along with a November 1990 (4) and a 1992 timetable, and the 1990 GCOR in a binder.  The SPINS booklet details all of the sidings and spur tracks, what their number on the switchboard is, where they are and what industries they served.  In my copies are all of the industries commonly served by the Magma Turn local, along the Phoenix line from the beginning of the Tempe block (24th st), to the Coolidge block and the entire Chandler Branch down to Dock.

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Posted by canazar on Monday, July 24, 2006 4:58 PM

How often do you get over now Silicon?   My son and I  (he's 6) try and get over there once or twice a month.  During the winter, maybe once a week, for a quick sneal peek or somthing.  Usually try and catch thm up around the east side yard in down town Mesa switching out.   During the summer, maybe 3 times, its just too hot to drag a kid.   We usually hit the local in the evening after I get home from work around 7ish.

What part of town do you live in?   I am with a couple miles of the Mesa Office.

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Posted by silicon212 on Monday, July 24, 2006 5:04 PM
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How often do you get over now Silicon?   My son and I  (he's 6) try and get over there once or twice a month.  During the winter, maybe once a week, for a quick sneal peek or somthing.  Usually try and catch thm up around the east side yard in down town Mesa switching out.   During the summer, maybe 3 times, its just too hot to drag a kid.   We usually hit the local in the evening after I get home from work around 7ish.

What part of town do you live in?   I am with a couple miles of the Mesa Office.

I haven't gotten over there much lately (been dealing with car gremlins such as a broken transmission sun shell), but generally when I am in the area and they're switching in there, you'll see me (driving an old, white Chevy ex-police car).  I'm in the Broadway/Dobson area.  I see mostly the mainline drags, and occasionally a Phoenix-based local (power lately has been a pair of freshly painted ex-SP 4800 class GP38-2s - one already has graffitti on it (977?)).

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, July 24, 2006 7:10 PM
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All I can say is that the Pass and the Loop aren't the same without Southern Pacific.  Union Pacific on the Palmdale Cutoff is just like a fish out of water, and double goes for the Loop.  It's just wrong. 

I think that we all should put our heads and wallets together and start up a new Southern Pacific and buy back their lines little by little.  Who's with me?



i'm in. bring back CNW too. just give UP lots of hell for all the history they desecrated. i would love to see bloody noses on the rails again. armour yellow in a snowy setting? that does NOT look right!

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:12 AM
 Lord Atmo wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

All I can say is that the Pass and the Loop aren't the same without Southern Pacific.  Union Pacific on the Palmdale Cutoff is just like a fish out of water, and double goes for the Loop.  It's just wrong. 

I think that we all should put our heads and wallets together and start up a new Southern Pacific and buy back their lines little by little.  Who's with me?



i'm in. bring back CNW too. just give UP lots of hell for all the history they desecrated. i would love to see bloody noses on the rails again. armour yellow in a snowy setting? that does NOT look right!

Dude,

No offence but I think I speak for all of us when I say quit your whineing about UP. It's getting real old. Besides, this is a SP thread, not a UP thread, not a CNW thread, but an SP thread.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:36 PM
WOW! way to fly off the handle. what kind of a baffoon do you take me for? do you know what i even MEANT by "bloody noses"? try looking at SP's last scheme. note how only the loco's NOSE is red. the nickname came from there. i post ONE sentance about CNW in an SP thread and get blown up at. you dont see me complaining when someone posts things about Rock Island in my CNW thread, do you?

i said it once and i'll say it again, it was the SP merger that led me to hating UP, NOT the CNW merger. i miss the grey locomotives with red noses like everyone else and even remember seeing one in altoona only once. before the merger! THAT was a day i'll always remember.

but the one thing i truly miss most of all came before my time and before the diesels. i would have loved to have seen the 4-8-4 daylight, the greatest steamer to ever ride the rails! please god someone tell me there's at least one of those still around. displayed, running excursions, anything!

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Posted by zgardner18 on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:44 PM

Chad,

I think we need to bring back the Olympic themed SD40 too.  It's too bad BN crashed it.

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:34 PM

 Lord Atmo wrote:
WOW! way to fly off the handle. what kind of a baffoon do you take me for? do you know what i even MEANT by "bloody noses"? try looking at SP's last scheme. note how only the loco's NOSE is red. the nickname came from there. i post ONE sentance about CNW in an SP thread and get blown up at. you dont see me complaining when someone posts things about Rock Island in my CNW thread, do you?

i said it once and i'll say it again, it was the SP merger that led me to hating UP, NOT the CNW merger. i miss the grey locomotives with red noses like everyone else and even remember seeing one in altoona only once. before the merger! THAT was a day i'll always remember.

but the one thing i truly miss most of all came before my time and before the diesels. i would have loved to have seen the 4-8-4 daylight, the greatest steamer to ever ride the rails! please god someone tell me there's at least one of those still around. displayed, running excursions, anything!

First of all nobody is flying off the handle, I am just tired of your UP bashing, and I'm sure many will agree with me. And you have posted WAY more then one sentance of deragatory UP remarks.

And yes there is a 4-8-4 Daylight left. It's the SP 4449 and it gets out a couple times a year for excoursion duty. Unfortunately the UP is not receptive to the 4449 because they have there own steam fleet so it's a bit of an orphan. It still gets out on the BNSF and P&W though. When not on the road it is kept at the Brooklyn roundhouse in Portland, Or. with stablemate SP&S 700 (also a running northern) and a few other locos includeing Doyle McCormak's exD&H PA (being restored as a Nickle Plate unit) and a ex AMT F40PH.

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:35 PM
 zgardner18 wrote:

Chad,

I think we need to bring back the Olympic themed SD40 too.  It's too bad BN crashed it.

 

 You did notice my avatar right. I caught her in Oakland back in 86'.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:52 PM
 chad thomas wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

Chad,

I think we need to bring back the Olympic themed SD40 too.  It's too bad BN crashed it.

 

 You did notice my avatar right. I caught her in Oakland back in 86'.

Chad,

I did notice your avatar and that is why I brought it up.  You're a lucky man to have seen it. 

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:40 AM

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:48 AM
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

That's what I'm talking about !!!!

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:51 AM
 chad thomas wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

That's what I'm talking about !!!!

STAY WITH ME BOYS, IN DUE TIME IT WILL BE OURS!!

SOUTHERN PACIFIC WILL BE BACK!

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:56 AM
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.
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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:58 AM

 chad thomas wrote:
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:08 AM
 zgardner18 wrote:

 chad thomas wrote:
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.

Tell me that you got a picture of it!

I didn't, but someone on the SoCal board did. Have you seen this beast? It's working the Circus train in Aneheim.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:11 AM
 chad thomas wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

 chad thomas wrote:
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.

Tell me that you got a picture of it!

I didn't, but someone on the SoCal board did. Have you seen this beast? It's working the Circus train in Aneheim.

What do you mean the circus train in Anaheim?

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:12 AM

Check it out.

http://www.socalrailfan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1482&page=3

It's going to be down here in SD in a week or two.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:44 AM
That SSW is SWEET!  But I thought that you were really talking about a UP engine with a SP patch on it.

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:49 AM

 zgardner18 wrote:
That SSW is SWEET!  But I thought that you were really talking about a UP engine with a SP patch on it.

I was, The SSW is a different unit. I'll see if I can find a pic of the other one.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 12:08 PM
 chad thomas wrote:

 zgardner18 wrote:
That SSW is SWEET!  But I thought that you were really talking about a UP engine with a SP patch on it.

I was, The SSW is a different unit. I'll see if I can find a pic of the other one.

Alright, I follow you now.

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Posted by doghouse on Friday, July 28, 2006 4:04 PM
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

 

Do we still have to paint them yellow?

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Posted by silicon212 on Friday, July 28, 2006 5:57 PM
 doghouse wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

 

Do we still have to paint them yellow?

No. There will be the standard Lark Grey/Scarlet Red "Bloody Nose" scheme that is in use, with speed lettering.  A SuperFleet will consist of either Daylight-schemed paintjobs, or Black Widow paint jobs.

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Posted by MLG4812 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 4:27 PM

Hey guys,

Where can I get a list of original SP COFC equipment? I heard they shipped containers in gondolas originally. Maybe it was SF? I can't seem to find any TTX container equipment that dates back to 1981. My guess is they shipped on TOFC flats. Don't know. Maybe? Could you help.

 

 

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Posted by broncoman on Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:10 PM
Someone correct me if I am wrong but didn't SP test, build, and run the first set of doublestack cars.  I thought it was in collusion with ACF.  I think they were even painted a daylight orange (of sorts).
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Posted by ericsp on Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:03 PM

 broncoman wrote:
Someone correct me if I am wrong but didn't SP test, build, and run the first set of doublestack cars.  I thought it was in collusion with ACF.  I think they were even painted a daylight orange (of sorts).

Sounds right to me. Here is a link to information about that car.

For anyone wanting more information on SP freight cars, click on the link in my signature. Double stack cars are listed under flatcars.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:52 AM
i really wish we COULD bring back the bloody noses

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