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Posted by silicon212 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:58 PM
Nope, they've done everything.  Kinda like Halliburton.
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Posted by WP 3020 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:57 PM
Yes, that's who. They at one time were the, or one of, the largest construction companies in the U.S.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:57 PM
     I thought they were only famous for a line of rebuilt locomotives?

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Posted by silicon212 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:54 PM
Yes.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:52 PM
MK?  Morrison-Knudson?

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Posted by silicon212 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:47 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if MK did work on it.  Much of the eastern end of the Phoenix Line, from McQueen to Coolidge, was built by MK in the 50s.  In fact, the MK built portion is the only part of the Phoenix Line that uses CWR.  MK was a busy company, having also built the Hoover Dam.
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Posted by WP 3020 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:42 PM
I just Googled "Lucien Cutoff" and clicked on the third one under "http://historytogo.utah.gov/utah_charters/statehood_and_the_progressive_era/thelucincutoff.html" has a lot of info.
It sounds, to me, as if Harriman had it done unde the SP in 1906.
I know MK did the rebuilding work later on, but can't remember when. One of our club members had a video, I think was called, Mariners in hard hats that documented its rebuilding.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM
     I recently read an article ablout the Lucien Cutoff in an old Trains Mgazine.  For the life of me, I though the cutoff was on UP, but the article showed it being re-built by SP.  Was it built by Harriman when he owned both UP and SP?

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Posted by silicon212 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:42 PM
SP's 7300 class SD40-2 units are/were units that started as SD40s and were rebuilt to Dash Two in '79-'80 at the Sacramento shop.  These were classed as SD40Es though (E for enhanced, like the e in SD70ACe), some people referred to them as SD40Rs.  The 1994 MK Rail rebuilds were classed as SD40-2Rs.  Some of these actually were delivered as Dash Twos.
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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, July 30, 2006 6:35 PM
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I think that SP only bought Tunnel Motors during the Dash Two era.  I don't remember ever seeing an SD40-2 ever delivered new to SP.

They had lots of tunnel motors, however.

Correct, SP never bought any SD40-2s, new or used. In their roster they call the SD40Rs SD40-2s, at least in the one I have.

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Posted by silicon212 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:05 PM

I think that SP only bought Tunnel Motors during the Dash Two era.  I don't remember ever seeing an SD40-2 ever delivered new to SP.

They had lots of tunnel motors, however.

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Posted by broncoman on Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:03 PM
Did SP own any new SD40-2s?  I don't mean ones rebuilt to -2 standards or tunnel motors.  I am under the impression that all of the ones considered -2 (non-tunnel) were rebuilt from other units they weren't EMD built-as SD40-2.  Is this correct?

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Posted by Railfan1 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:45 PM

Speaking of bloody noses, I cought this one last night. (now owned by NREX# 8250 SD40T-2)

 

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:52 AM
i really wish we COULD bring back the bloody noses

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Posted by ericsp on Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:03 PM

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Someone correct me if I am wrong but didn't SP test, build, and run the first set of doublestack cars.  I thought it was in collusion with ACF.  I think they were even painted a daylight orange (of sorts).

Sounds right to me. Here is a link to information about that car.

For anyone wanting more information on SP freight cars, click on the link in my signature. Double stack cars are listed under flatcars.

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Posted by broncoman on Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:10 PM
Someone correct me if I am wrong but didn't SP test, build, and run the first set of doublestack cars.  I thought it was in collusion with ACF.  I think they were even painted a daylight orange (of sorts).
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Posted by MLG4812 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 4:27 PM

Hey guys,

Where can I get a list of original SP COFC equipment? I heard they shipped containers in gondolas originally. Maybe it was SF? I can't seem to find any TTX container equipment that dates back to 1981. My guess is they shipped on TOFC flats. Don't know. Maybe? Could you help.

 

 

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Posted by silicon212 on Friday, July 28, 2006 5:57 PM
 doghouse wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

 

Do we still have to paint them yellow?

No. There will be the standard Lark Grey/Scarlet Red "Bloody Nose" scheme that is in use, with speed lettering.  A SuperFleet will consist of either Daylight-schemed paintjobs, or Black Widow paint jobs.

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Posted by doghouse on Friday, July 28, 2006 4:04 PM
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

 

Do we still have to paint them yellow?

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 12:08 PM
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That SSW is SWEET!  But I thought that you were really talking about a UP engine with a SP patch on it.

I was, The SSW is a different unit. I'll see if I can find a pic of the other one.

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:49 AM

 zgardner18 wrote:
That SSW is SWEET!  But I thought that you were really talking about a UP engine with a SP patch on it.

I was, The SSW is a different unit. I'll see if I can find a pic of the other one.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:44 AM
That SSW is SWEET!  But I thought that you were really talking about a UP engine with a SP patch on it.

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:12 AM

Check it out.

http://www.socalrailfan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1482&page=3

It's going to be down here in SD in a week or two.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:11 AM
 chad thomas wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

 chad thomas wrote:
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.

Tell me that you got a picture of it!

I didn't, but someone on the SoCal board did. Have you seen this beast? It's working the Circus train in Aneheim.

What do you mean the circus train in Anaheim?

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 11:08 AM
 zgardner18 wrote:

 chad thomas wrote:
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.

Tell me that you got a picture of it!

I didn't, but someone on the SoCal board did. Have you seen this beast? It's working the Circus train in Aneheim.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:58 AM

 chad thomas wrote:
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.

Tell me that you got a picture of it!

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:56 AM
Funny thing is that's not the first UP unit I've seen with an SP patch. There was a spartan cab unit in West Colton a while back with a SP patch too.
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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:51 AM
 chad thomas wrote:
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

That's what I'm talking about !!!!

STAY WITH ME BOYS, IN DUE TIME IT WILL BE OURS!!

SOUTHERN PACIFIC WILL BE BACK!

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 28, 2006 10:48 AM
 zgardner18 wrote:

Guys,

Here is us taking back Southern Pacific.

That's what I'm talking about !!!!

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