Which Class 1 Railroad is your Favorite?

[edblysard]

Hi Jim, not real sure if it did change, like I said, I have the formula at work, when I get there tomorrow, I will find out the correct one.
David,
I dont dislike UP, in fact, I think they are the guys to watch lead the way.
I was pointing out that they take railroading very seriously.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Hi Jim, not real sure if it did change, like I said, I have the formula at work, when I get there tomorrow, I will find out the correct one.
David,
I dont dislike UP, in fact, I think they are the guys to watch lead the way.
I was pointing out that they take railroading very seriously.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[CG9602]

The Canadian Roads are interesting to watch, but so is Amtrak. Right now, i would have to write that KCS is my favorite, with CP second.

[CG9602]

The Canadian Roads are interesting to watch, but so is Amtrak. Right now, i would have to write that KCS is my favorite, with CP second.

[mudchicken]

In support of our world class Unihead Guy & MC for the Mookie Challenge:
STAY DRY DOWN THERE ED!!!!! (Gotta flanged wheel submarine in the yard yet?)

FRA/ DOT vs. AAR CLASSIFICATION:

FRA Class 1: Average annual operating revenues above $256.4 Million

FRA Class 2: Average Operating Revenues between $20.5 Million and $256.4 Million

FRA Class 3: Average Annual revenues less than $20.5 million

AAR Class 1: Same as FRA/STB/DOT Class 1 (see above)

AAR Class 2: REGIONAL RR Average Operating revenues less than$256.4 Million And $40.0 million and at least 350 miles of track operated including main tracks, side tracks & industry tracks.

AAR Class 3: Shortlines anything that does not qualify as a Regional for lack of $40 Million in Avg. Revenue or less than 350 miles in length

(AAR Class 4): Industrial switching w/o main line trackage or no average income due to being part of some other industry or service

Class 1 Railroads account for more than 91% of revenues and 71% of all total track mileage operated.

[mudchicken]

In support of our world class Unihead Guy & MC for the Mookie Challenge:
STAY DRY DOWN THERE ED!!!!! (Gotta flanged wheel submarine in the yard yet?)

FRA/ DOT vs. AAR CLASSIFICATION:

FRA Class 1: Average annual operating revenues above $256.4 Million

FRA Class 2: Average Operating Revenues between $20.5 Million and $256.4 Million

FRA Class 3: Average Annual revenues less than $20.5 million

AAR Class 1: Same as FRA/STB/DOT Class 1 (see above)

AAR Class 2: REGIONAL RR Average Operating revenues less than$256.4 Million And $40.0 million and at least 350 miles of track operated including main tracks, side tracks & industry tracks.

AAR Class 3: Shortlines anything that does not qualify as a Regional for lack of $40 Million in Avg. Revenue or less than 350 miles in length

(AAR Class 4): Industrial switching w/o main line trackage or no average income due to being part of some other industry or service

Class 1 Railroads account for more than 91% of revenues and 71% of all total track mileage operated.

[Anonymous]

Kansas City Southern.

[Anonymous]

Kansas City Southern.

[David3]

Like I said I like all railroads so I agree with all of your choices. [8D][8D] But there is one I don't like and that is........... Amtrak. They just don't know how to operate on time [:(!][|)][:(] at least around the Chicagoland area, does anybody else agree with me? [^][^][^] David

[David3]

Like I said I like all railroads so I agree with all of your choices. [8D][8D] But there is one I don't like and that is........... Amtrak. They just don't know how to operate on time [:(!][|)][:(] at least around the Chicagoland area, does anybody else agree with me? [^][^][^] David

[brilondon]

I glad to see that I am not alone in having UP as my favourite Class 1. Though I always liked the Chessie System if for nothing else but their orange,yellow, and blue paint.

[brilondon]

I glad to see that I am not alone in having UP as my favourite Class 1. Though I always liked the Chessie System if for nothing else but their orange,yellow, and blue paint.

[edblysard]

See Jim,
If you want to know something about numbers, ask a engineer!
This is not a slam, but I bet mudchicken still has his slide rule, and still knows how to use it.
Remember, we went to the moon in machines designed with pencil,paper and slide rules!
And yeah, got my SCUBA ready, just in case.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

See Jim,
If you want to know something about numbers, ask a engineer!
This is not a slam, but I bet mudchicken still has his slide rule, and still knows how to use it.
Remember, we went to the moon in machines designed with pencil,paper and slide rules!
And yeah, got my SCUBA ready, just in case.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Anonymous]

Well, I have a bad attitude now so here it goes. You ask which class 1 RR is your favorite. Yeah I used to work for the UP but I would give anything to work for the SP. The UP treats their people like garbage. I busted my balls to make them happy but all they wanted was more. So i guess i don't have a favorite [B)][8][}:)]

[Anonymous]

Well, I have a bad attitude now so here it goes. You ask which class 1 RR is your favorite. Yeah I used to work for the UP but I would give anything to work for the SP. The UP treats their people like garbage. I busted my balls to make them happy but all they wanted was more. So i guess i don't have a favorite [B)][8][}:)]

[David3]

Hey Marty, I am going to be an engineer when I grow up and I wanted to work for the UP but after what you said I ask you, should I work for the UP then? [:(][:(][:(]

[David3]

Hey Marty, I am going to be an engineer when I grow up and I wanted to work for the UP but after what you said I ask you, should I work for the UP then? [:(][:(][:(]

[mudchicken]

Ed:

I know how to use a slide rule, but have not touched one since the seventies. Give me an HP-41CX or HP-48GX (neither made anymore either) and I'm dangerous. Somebody has to do the steering out on the railroad. Never was in to pocket protectors, but always have to have pen & pencil at the ready. It doesn't hurt that I teach other surveyors/engineers what the classification systems are either. Most surveyors/engineers can "highway", but are clueless when it comes to railroading.
(and I already figured out that Mookie let the cat out of the bag regarding why I remain nameless and faceless to the profile)

David3: A civil engineer is a hogger/ throttle-jockey out of a job. Want to talk to a real engineer? ... Talk to a roadmaster or a division engineer and then concentrate on your school work.

Class 1 Favorite was BNSF, now leaning toward UP after some of the dumb moves generated by BNSF upper management combined with their inability to listen to the warnings from their middle managers.

[mudchicken]

Ed:

I know how to use a slide rule, but have not touched one since the seventies. Give me an HP-41CX or HP-48GX (neither made anymore either) and I'm dangerous. Somebody has to do the steering out on the railroad. Never was in to pocket protectors, but always have to have pen & pencil at the ready. It doesn't hurt that I teach other surveyors/engineers what the classification systems are either. Most surveyors/engineers can "highway", but are clueless when it comes to railroading.
(and I already figured out that Mookie let the cat out of the bag regarding why I remain nameless and faceless to the profile)

David3: A civil engineer is a hogger/ throttle-jockey out of a job. Want to talk to a real engineer? ... Talk to a roadmaster or a division engineer and then concentrate on your school work.

Class 1 Favorite was BNSF, now leaning toward UP after some of the dumb moves generated by BNSF upper management combined with their inability to listen to the warnings from their middle managers.

[therailnut]

As being in BNSF country pretty much and only living right across the street from there tracks. I guess that makes me a BNSF fan. Plus i love the H2 scheme on there locomotives.

[therailnut]

As being in BNSF country pretty much and only living right across the street from there tracks. I guess that makes me a BNSF fan. Plus i love the H2 scheme on there locomotives.

[CG9602]

David3, Amtrak's punctuality issues stem from the fact that the Federal law mandating that Amtrak be given priority over frieght is seldom enforced. Plus, The frieght RR's are the landlords, and Amtrak the "tenant," as it were. if Amtrak had the $$$, it could increase the rent payments and punctuality incentives, to the frieght/landlord RR's and this would alleviate the tardiness issues to a certain extent. Right now, the general public has something of a negative view of ALL RR's in part because their only contact with RR's is frequently Amtrak. "They don't know how to operate on time," - this isn't Amtraks fault, in fact, it is beyond Amtrak's control. If Amtrak fails to operate on time, it may be due to the fact that Freight RR's in general are running into physical plant and capacity limitations. IOW, Amtrak's problems with tardiness stem from the frieght RR's repeated failure to get all trains over the road in a timely, punctual fashion.

To keep this post on topic, my favorite RR has always been the CNW. Second: KCS. The only other RR that had as much to do with WI RR history would be the late MILW.

[CG9602]

David3, Amtrak's punctuality issues stem from the fact that the Federal law mandating that Amtrak be given priority over frieght is seldom enforced. Plus, The frieght RR's are the landlords, and Amtrak the "tenant," as it were. if Amtrak had the $$$, it could increase the rent payments and punctuality incentives, to the frieght/landlord RR's and this would alleviate the tardiness issues to a certain extent. Right now, the general public has something of a negative view of ALL RR's in part because their only contact with RR's is frequently Amtrak. "They don't know how to operate on time," - this isn't Amtraks fault, in fact, it is beyond Amtrak's control. If Amtrak fails to operate on time, it may be due to the fact that Freight RR's in general are running into physical plant and capacity limitations. IOW, Amtrak's problems with tardiness stem from the frieght RR's repeated failure to get all trains over the road in a timely, punctual fashion.

To keep this post on topic, my favorite RR has always been the CNW. Second: KCS. The only other RR that had as much to do with WI RR history would be the late MILW.

[Anonymous]

Norfolk Southern

[Anonymous]

Norfolk Southern

[Anonymous]

Mine is the one at the park, no RFEs, TMs, Sup's, or any other officials laying in the weeds trying to fire me. No signal sheets either.
Ken

[Anonymous]

Mine is the one at the park, no RFEs, TMs, Sup's, or any other officials laying in the weeds trying to fire me. No signal sheets either.
Ken

[mudchicken]

Amen!

[mudchicken]

Amen!