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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman





Thanks.. oh Ed, camping was great.. i did get attacked by a polar bear though.



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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman





Thanks.. oh Ed, camping was great.. i did get attacked by a polar bear though.



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Posted by wabash1 on Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:15 AM
In the signaling department.

1) in abs territory the signals are set up to Keep trains about 10 min apart there is no timer on these its just running time and distance between signals. if i am following a train and my signal was approach then turn clear i Know his rear just cleared the 2nd block ahead of me.( 2 signals) now to keep things simple if my train is a faster track speed than his and i go past the yellow and even the red ( restricting ) in unison ( not green to red) i am in no violation and should be looking for the rear of his train. if i hit him I am fired. signaling has differant meanings. and unlike ed said if i see a yellow it dont mean anything to the engineer until he passes it. the only signal i haft to do anything for before i get to it is a positive. ( stop).

2) kevin the reason the MOW dont do anything for the activation of signals is that the wheels on there trucks are insulated. and will not activate any signal.( or so to say) they do sometimes but most generally wont.

3) and the flow meter test is a approved FRA air test but it is the engineers choice on what to use.
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Posted by wabash1 on Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:15 AM
In the signaling department.

1) in abs territory the signals are set up to Keep trains about 10 min apart there is no timer on these its just running time and distance between signals. if i am following a train and my signal was approach then turn clear i Know his rear just cleared the 2nd block ahead of me.( 2 signals) now to keep things simple if my train is a faster track speed than his and i go past the yellow and even the red ( restricting ) in unison ( not green to red) i am in no violation and should be looking for the rear of his train. if i hit him I am fired. signaling has differant meanings. and unlike ed said if i see a yellow it dont mean anything to the engineer until he passes it. the only signal i haft to do anything for before i get to it is a positive. ( stop).

2) kevin the reason the MOW dont do anything for the activation of signals is that the wheels on there trucks are insulated. and will not activate any signal.( or so to say) they do sometimes but most generally wont.

3) and the flow meter test is a approved FRA air test but it is the engineers choice on what to use.
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Posted by f14aplusfl on Friday, August 22, 2003 8:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Yes, the symbol is POTUS, and the secret service does a track check, spikes all the switches on the route, and generaly makes a pain in the keister of themselves.


Actually its two trains. One has the president and the preceding one has a security detail and such to make sure the lkine ahead is clear and where they're stopping is safe for the President, carry press for when the President's train rolls into town. I think the last POTUS train was 1992 (and yes there was an Article in TRAINS magazine). Essentially they are the major pain in the neck cause they have to be into town before the President. (which would also be interesting to model).

And on Conrail's Boston line, light engine consists run west cause more trains are going east than west thus more locomotives end up in Boston than there needs to be. Which coincidently makes it perfect for modelers who have more locomotives than what they know to do with? (This line has been a subject in both TRAINS and Model Railroader)
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Posted by f14aplusfl on Friday, August 22, 2003 8:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Yes, the symbol is POTUS, and the secret service does a track check, spikes all the switches on the route, and generaly makes a pain in the keister of themselves.


Actually its two trains. One has the president and the preceding one has a security detail and such to make sure the lkine ahead is clear and where they're stopping is safe for the President, carry press for when the President's train rolls into town. I think the last POTUS train was 1992 (and yes there was an Article in TRAINS magazine). Essentially they are the major pain in the neck cause they have to be into town before the President. (which would also be interesting to model).

And on Conrail's Boston line, light engine consists run west cause more trains are going east than west thus more locomotives end up in Boston than there needs to be. Which coincidently makes it perfect for modelers who have more locomotives than what they know to do with? (This line has been a subject in both TRAINS and Model Railroader)
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 6:13 PM
The first thing is about something I saw today. We were driving past a large yard and I saw, twice, two engines going around the yard together with this...thing in between them. It was painted like an engine but it was not as tall as an engine. The only way I can think of to describe it is that it looked like our plastic butter dish with the cover on -- that's the kind of shape it was. Does anyone have any idea what this THING was? I'm assuming it wasn't a giant butter car.

If you have access to newsgroups I just posted a photo of a Southern Railway lashup of a Cow, Calf and Slug working the Norris yard hump. I don't know how to post a photo here but if you go to newsgroups and go to alt.binaries.pictures.rail and look for Motorman in the from column you will find the photo.[:p][:p]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 6:13 PM
The first thing is about something I saw today. We were driving past a large yard and I saw, twice, two engines going around the yard together with this...thing in between them. It was painted like an engine but it was not as tall as an engine. The only way I can think of to describe it is that it looked like our plastic butter dish with the cover on -- that's the kind of shape it was. Does anyone have any idea what this THING was? I'm assuming it wasn't a giant butter car.

If you have access to newsgroups I just posted a photo of a Southern Railway lashup of a Cow, Calf and Slug working the Norris yard hump. I don't know how to post a photo here but if you go to newsgroups and go to alt.binaries.pictures.rail and look for Motorman in the from column you will find the photo.[:p][:p]
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Posted by edblysard on Friday, August 22, 2003 1:44 PM
Let me guess,
your girlfriend in a white teddy?
Ed[}:)]

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, August 22, 2003 1:44 PM
Let me guess,
your girlfriend in a white teddy?
Ed[}:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 12:27 PM
Heres another Dumb Question... Curtoesy of me...

The last 3 Train derailments in Quebec were caused by a bad switch, like it was switched the wrong way.


A ----------\-------------------------------------------B
| -----------------------------------------C

Okay.. this drawing is worse then pittiful but it will do.. Train is traveling From position C and is going towards A. the vertical line and the diagonal line indicate that the alternate line is merging with the main line (segment AB) .. so in all 3 derailments.. the switch was the reversed (AB) and the train was comming fromn C and heading to A, yet all three times.. every single locomotive made it over the switch effortlessly.. all the CARS derailed, but all the locomotives... the first one had 2 locomotives, the second derailed train had 4 locomotives, and the 3rd derailed train had 1locomotive.. The only reason i can possibly think of this.. perhaps its because the engines weigh a heck of a lot more then the cars..

and the last idiotic question...

to anyone whose seen Maintenace trucks, CP usually has Chevy 1500's going down the lines. why don't maintenance trucks trigger the RR lights when they are travelling the tracks? Technically, They do cross over the link.. and that should trigger the RR lights..

but it doesn't...

And don't try and tell me that the silver logic boxes can tell the difference.. uh-uh. no way, they can't tell the difference between a train and jumper cabels.. So.. although called logic boxes, they really are quite stupid.. not purpose stupid, but thinking capacity stupid.

Thanks.. oh Ed, camping was great.. i did get attacked by a polar bear though.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 12:27 PM
Heres another Dumb Question... Curtoesy of me...

The last 3 Train derailments in Quebec were caused by a bad switch, like it was switched the wrong way.


A ----------\-------------------------------------------B
| -----------------------------------------C

Okay.. this drawing is worse then pittiful but it will do.. Train is traveling From position C and is going towards A. the vertical line and the diagonal line indicate that the alternate line is merging with the main line (segment AB) .. so in all 3 derailments.. the switch was the reversed (AB) and the train was comming fromn C and heading to A, yet all three times.. every single locomotive made it over the switch effortlessly.. all the CARS derailed, but all the locomotives... the first one had 2 locomotives, the second derailed train had 4 locomotives, and the 3rd derailed train had 1locomotive.. The only reason i can possibly think of this.. perhaps its because the engines weigh a heck of a lot more then the cars..

and the last idiotic question...

to anyone whose seen Maintenace trucks, CP usually has Chevy 1500's going down the lines. why don't maintenance trucks trigger the RR lights when they are travelling the tracks? Technically, They do cross over the link.. and that should trigger the RR lights..

but it doesn't...

And don't try and tell me that the silver logic boxes can tell the difference.. uh-uh. no way, they can't tell the difference between a train and jumper cabels.. So.. although called logic boxes, they really are quite stupid.. not purpose stupid, but thinking capacity stupid.

Thanks.. oh Ed, camping was great.. i did get attacked by a polar bear though.
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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, August 22, 2003 8:32 AM
.....The Derail is designed to guide the wheel up over the top of the rail and put that truck on the ground....I suppose if enough speed was involved it would derail both trucks of a rail car. In almost all cases surely the car will remain upright. I suppose if the speed is slow enough damage will be little or none.

A Derail would derail an engine as well.

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, August 22, 2003 8:32 AM
.....The Derail is designed to guide the wheel up over the top of the rail and put that truck on the ground....I suppose if enough speed was involved it would derail both trucks of a rail car. In almost all cases surely the car will remain upright. I suppose if the speed is slow enough damage will be little or none.

A Derail would derail an engine as well.

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, August 22, 2003 6:10 AM
Well, Kevin stole my thunder, since that was going to be one of my questions. I know what a derail is for, but exactly how does it work? Does it put just part of the car on the ground, straight up, does it possibly tip it over, does it damage the car, and what about an engine? Do they get tangled up in derails? Guess that about covers it.

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, August 22, 2003 6:10 AM
Well, Kevin stole my thunder, since that was going to be one of my questions. I know what a derail is for, but exactly how does it work? Does it put just part of the car on the ground, straight up, does it possibly tip it over, does it damage the car, and what about an engine? Do they get tangled up in derails? Guess that about covers it.

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:44 PM
Hi Kev, a derail is a mechanical device, attached to the rail, that will derail a car that moves or rolls over it.
It is most often found just where ringer1 said, in industries, or sideings that need protection from either car coming in from the mainline, or cars rolling out of the industry or sideing, and fouling the main.
You will also find them at a lot of engine service facilities.
The idea is that if someone screws up, its better to put a car on the ground than into the side of a train.
Have fun camping?
Stay Frosty,
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:44 PM
Hi Kev, a derail is a mechanical device, attached to the rail, that will derail a car that moves or rolls over it.
It is most often found just where ringer1 said, in industries, or sideings that need protection from either car coming in from the mainline, or cars rolling out of the industry or sideing, and fouling the main.
You will also find them at a lot of engine service facilities.
The idea is that if someone screws up, its better to put a car on the ground than into the side of a train.
Have fun camping?
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:36 PM
Unless they changed since I retired derailos are used mainly on industry tracks, engine service ramps, rip tracks to protect men ans equipment and mainline traffic from runaway cars at a industry.


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:36 PM
Unless they changed since I retired derailos are used mainly on industry tracks, engine service ramps, rip tracks to protect men ans equipment and mainline traffic from runaway cars at a industry.


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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:23 PM
1) thanks for letting me play along and chew your ears if they gave a title for most curious it still goes to mookie
2)financial successes? thats looking in the couch for the remote and finding 38 cents
3) for three stars you need 499 posts
4) they use the derail on sidings to make sure what they park there stays ther until needed.don't need a runaway train like in california
5) look out deshler here we come
and most important
stay safe
joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:23 PM
1) thanks for letting me play along and chew your ears if they gave a title for most curious it still goes to mookie
2)financial successes? thats looking in the couch for the remote and finding 38 cents
3) for three stars you need 499 posts
4) they use the derail on sidings to make sure what they park there stays ther until needed.don't need a runaway train like in california
5) look out deshler here we come
and most important
stay safe
joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:38 PM
A) i second ED for president..

B) What do you have to do to get 3 stars again? or how many posts do you need? theres my dumb question.

Also, in the June magazine of Trains, trackside guide Detroit, there is a picture in one of the corners, with a switcher, and at the bottom, there is a small post with a sign on it that sias "DERAIL" or "DRAIL" i don't have the magazine in front of me now... what on earth does that mean.. does that mean if you run the train of the track, there is a chance you might de-rail it?
LOL

like my biology book.. short term side effects: Death...

what a stupid sign! unless i'm missing the point....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:38 PM
A) i second ED for president..

B) What do you have to do to get 3 stars again? or how many posts do you need? theres my dumb question.

Also, in the June magazine of Trains, trackside guide Detroit, there is a picture in one of the corners, with a switcher, and at the bottom, there is a small post with a sign on it that sias "DERAIL" or "DRAIL" i don't have the magazine in front of me now... what on earth does that mean.. does that mean if you run the train of the track, there is a chance you might de-rail it?
LOL

like my biology book.. short term side effects: Death...

what a stupid sign! unless i'm missing the point....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

I think with Mookie, chocolate and cake are the two key words![:D]
Stay Frosty,
Ed
Although pecan fudge brownies sounds sorta good too!
[:p] You got it Toyota! And after that, the brownies would be good too!

Yum! [^]


O K, with all these sweets I gotta have some milk. We are going to have to stop somewhere and get a cow. (Don't have anymore at the farm in MO.) The forum about horns has a few -- we can get them from it. lol
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

I think with Mookie, chocolate and cake are the two key words![:D]
Stay Frosty,
Ed
Although pecan fudge brownies sounds sorta good too!
[:p] You got it Toyota! And after that, the brownies would be good too!

Yum! [^]


O K, with all these sweets I gotta have some milk. We are going to have to stop somewhere and get a cow. (Don't have anymore at the farm in MO.) The forum about horns has a few -- we can get them from it. lol
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

I think with Mookie, chocolate and cake are the two key words![:D]
Stay Frosty,
Ed
Although pecan fudge brownies sounds sorta good too!
[:p] You got it Toyota! And after that, the brownies would be good too!

Yum! [^]

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

I think with Mookie, chocolate and cake are the two key words![:D]
Stay Frosty,
Ed
Although pecan fudge brownies sounds sorta good too!
[:p] You got it Toyota! And after that, the brownies would be good too!

Yum! [^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:18 PM
JoeKoh, CONGRADULATIONS on your third star. We wish you many more successful posts and long life, and good health, and financial success, and many wonderful train rides and ... ... ... ... ... [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:18 PM
JoeKoh, CONGRADULATIONS on your third star. We wish you many more successful posts and long life, and good health, and financial success, and many wonderful train rides and ... ... ... ... ... [;)]

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