Bad train pictures

[edblysard]

Let me guess,
your girlfriend in a white teddy?
Ed[}:)]

[edblysard]

Let me guess,
your girlfriend in a white teddy?
Ed[}:)]

[Anonymous]

The first thing is about something I saw today. We were driving past a large yard and I saw, twice, two engines going around the yard together with this...thing in between them. It was painted like an engine but it was not as tall as an engine. The only way I can think of to describe it is that it looked like our plastic butter dish with the cover on -- that's the kind of shape it was. Does anyone have any idea what this THING was? I'm assuming it wasn't a giant butter car.

If you have access to newsgroups I just posted a photo of a Southern Railway lashup of a Cow, Calf and Slug working the Norris yard hump. I don't know how to post a photo here but if you go to newsgroups and go to alt.binaries.pictures.rail and look for Motorman in the from column you will find the photo.[:p][:p]
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[Anonymous]

The first thing is about something I saw today. We were driving past a large yard and I saw, twice, two engines going around the yard together with this...thing in between them. It was painted like an engine but it was not as tall as an engine. The only way I can think of to describe it is that it looked like our plastic butter dish with the cover on -- that's the kind of shape it was. Does anyone have any idea what this THING was? I'm assuming it wasn't a giant butter car.

If you have access to newsgroups I just posted a photo of a Southern Railway lashup of a Cow, Calf and Slug working the Norris yard hump. I don't know how to post a photo here but if you go to newsgroups and go to alt.binaries.pictures.rail and look for Motorman in the from column you will find the photo.[:p][:p]
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[f14aplusfl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Yes, the symbol is POTUS, and the secret service does a track check, spikes all the switches on the route, and generaly makes a pain in the keister of themselves.

Actually its two trains. One has the president and the preceding one has a security detail and such to make sure the lkine ahead is clear and where they're stopping is safe for the President, carry press for when the President's train rolls into town. I think the last POTUS train was 1992 (and yes there was an Article in TRAINS magazine). Essentially they are the major pain in the neck cause they have to be into town before the President. (which would also be interesting to model).

And on Conrail's Boston line, light engine consists run west cause more trains are going east than west thus more locomotives end up in Boston than there needs to be. Which coincidently makes it perfect for modelers who have more locomotives than what they know to do with? (This line has been a subject in both TRAINS and Model Railroader)

[f14aplusfl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Yes, the symbol is POTUS, and the secret service does a track check, spikes all the switches on the route, and generaly makes a pain in the keister of themselves.

Actually its two trains. One has the president and the preceding one has a security detail and such to make sure the lkine ahead is clear and where they're stopping is safe for the President, carry press for when the President's train rolls into town. I think the last POTUS train was 1992 (and yes there was an Article in TRAINS magazine). Essentially they are the major pain in the neck cause they have to be into town before the President. (which would also be interesting to model).

And on Conrail's Boston line, light engine consists run west cause more trains are going east than west thus more locomotives end up in Boston than there needs to be. Which coincidently makes it perfect for modelers who have more locomotives than what they know to do with? (This line has been a subject in both TRAINS and Model Railroader)

[wabash1]

In the signaling department.

1) in abs territory the signals are set up to Keep trains about 10 min apart there is no timer on these its just running time and distance between signals. if i am following a train and my signal was approach then turn clear i Know his rear just cleared the 2nd block ahead of me.( 2 signals) now to keep things simple if my train is a faster track speed than his and i go past the yellow and even the red ( restricting ) in unison ( not green to red) i am in no violation and should be looking for the rear of his train. if i hit him I am fired. signaling has differant meanings. and unlike ed said if i see a yellow it dont mean anything to the engineer until he passes it. the only signal i haft to do anything for before i get to it is a positive. ( stop).

2) kevin the reason the MOW dont do anything for the activation of signals is that the wheels on there trucks are insulated. and will not activate any signal.( or so to say) they do sometimes but most generally wont.

3) and the flow meter test is a approved FRA air test but it is the engineers choice on what to use.

[wabash1]

In the signaling department.

1) in abs territory the signals are set up to Keep trains about 10 min apart there is no timer on these its just running time and distance between signals. if i am following a train and my signal was approach then turn clear i Know his rear just cleared the 2nd block ahead of me.( 2 signals) now to keep things simple if my train is a faster track speed than his and i go past the yellow and even the red ( restricting ) in unison ( not green to red) i am in no violation and should be looking for the rear of his train. if i hit him I am fired. signaling has differant meanings. and unlike ed said if i see a yellow it dont mean anything to the engineer until he passes it. the only signal i haft to do anything for before i get to it is a positive. ( stop).

2) kevin the reason the MOW dont do anything for the activation of signals is that the wheels on there trucks are insulated. and will not activate any signal.( or so to say) they do sometimes but most generally wont.

3) and the flow meter test is a approved FRA air test but it is the engineers choice on what to use.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman





Thanks.. oh Ed, camping was great.. i did get attacked by a polar bear though.

O K Kevin, I'll take the bait. Let's hear the story. [;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman





Thanks.. oh Ed, camping was great.. i did get attacked by a polar bear though.

O K Kevin, I'll take the bait. Let's hear the story. [;)]

[Anonymous]

Alright let me throw a few pucks out here on the ice and see where they go.

1. Semaphores At an early age I learned to read them and since our farm was right by the tracks and the tracks were the shortest way to our little town nearby I would run the tracks into town. (Please nobody tell ironhorseman--I was little then and didn't know any better.) When they were up all was clear. This in a nutshell was how I knew it was safe--no train coming. I have seen pictures of semaphores that seemed to signal differently than what I grew up with. So anyone having knowledge of their operation might address this issue.

2. Position lights Were they pretty much an East Coast "thing" and I guess into Chicago. They still use them, don't they. Someone please give us some light on this subject. And also what each position indicated and how it was read.

3. Cab Signals Lights and a horn or bell to indicate what? These too are still in use correct?

4. Torpedoes Do they still have and use them today on the railroad? Are they really loud enough to hear in the loco?

O K , that is enough for now. Looking forward to hearing all the answers. [^]

[Anonymous]

Alright let me throw a few pucks out here on the ice and see where they go.

1. Semaphores At an early age I learned to read them and since our farm was right by the tracks and the tracks were the shortest way to our little town nearby I would run the tracks into town. (Please nobody tell ironhorseman--I was little then and didn't know any better.) When they were up all was clear. This in a nutshell was how I knew it was safe--no train coming. I have seen pictures of semaphores that seemed to signal differently than what I grew up with. So anyone having knowledge of their operation might address this issue.

2. Position lights Were they pretty much an East Coast "thing" and I guess into Chicago. They still use them, don't they. Someone please give us some light on this subject. And also what each position indicated and how it was read.

3. Cab Signals Lights and a horn or bell to indicate what? These too are still in use correct?

4. Torpedoes Do they still have and use them today on the railroad? Are they really loud enough to hear in the loco?

O K , that is enough for now. Looking forward to hearing all the answers. [^]

[Anonymous]

It was a Joke! theres no story behind it.. it's 110 degrees out.. Pol-E bears don't like that kind fo weather.. well most don't..

White teddy suit Ed, between you and me, one year my GF went out as a carrot for haloween. LOL.. A FREKIN Carrot! what's scary about that... other then the fact that you can see perfectly in the dark!

Jim i like your Questions, and if you go to page 3 or 4 or 5 on the main forum page maybe 6, 7 or 8.. you'll find an entire topic dedicated to torpedoes..

[Anonymous]

It was a Joke! theres no story behind it.. it's 110 degrees out.. Pol-E bears don't like that kind fo weather.. well most don't..

White teddy suit Ed, between you and me, one year my GF went out as a carrot for haloween. LOL.. A FREKIN Carrot! what's scary about that... other then the fact that you can see perfectly in the dark!

Jim i like your Questions, and if you go to page 3 or 4 or 5 on the main forum page maybe 6, 7 or 8.. you'll find an entire topic dedicated to torpedoes..

[Anonymous]

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QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

It was a Joke! theres no story behind it.. it's 110 degrees out.. Pol-E bears don't like that kind fo weather.. well most don't..

White teddy suit Ed, between you and me, one year my GF went out as a carrot for haloween. LOL.. A FREKIN Carrot! what's scary about that... other then the fact that you can see perfectly in the dark!

Jim i like your Questions, and if you go to page 3 or 4 or 5 on the main forum page maybe 6, 7 or 8.. you'll find an entire topic dedicated to torpedoes..

Hi Kevin, I kinda thought it might be that is why I said I'll take the bait. Thanks for your comment on the question. I actually had a torpedo in my hand when I was about 15. KIDS What can I say.

Just a quick story. One night when I was literally running the tracks, I came upon a possume (That's hillbilly for opossum). Usually a possume will "play dead" when scared. This one however decided not to play dead. And if that wasn't bad enough he wouldn't let me get by. He was centered between the two rails. Every time I tried to go around him he would sneer at me. Then he starts charging me. It is midnight, I can't see anything, and you know how the tracks are most always higher than the ground around them I couldn't sneak by him. So there I was (high drama here) dueling with a possume with an attitude. I couldn't help but think "rabbies". He charged me about 5 times. All I could do was "give em the boot" and every time I kicked him he came back for more. You talk about the proverbial Mexican Standoff, this was it. Neither one of us was about to give in, tuck tail or run. Finally after about (what seemed like hours) a few minutes he ran off the track and down into the ditch never to be seen again. What a relief. The battle was over and the good guys (guy) won. And yes this is a TRUE story. I bet some of our railroad buddies have a story something like this they too can share.

[Anonymous]

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QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

It was a Joke! theres no story behind it.. it's 110 degrees out.. Pol-E bears don't like that kind fo weather.. well most don't..

White teddy suit Ed, between you and me, one year my GF went out as a carrot for haloween. LOL.. A FREKIN Carrot! what's scary about that... other then the fact that you can see perfectly in the dark!

Jim i like your Questions, and if you go to page 3 or 4 or 5 on the main forum page maybe 6, 7 or 8.. you'll find an entire topic dedicated to torpedoes..

Hi Kevin, I kinda thought it might be that is why I said I'll take the bait. Thanks for your comment on the question. I actually had a torpedo in my hand when I was about 15. KIDS What can I say.

Just a quick story. One night when I was literally running the tracks, I came upon a possume (That's hillbilly for opossum). Usually a possume will "play dead" when scared. This one however decided not to play dead. And if that wasn't bad enough he wouldn't let me get by. He was centered between the two rails. Every time I tried to go around him he would sneer at me. Then he starts charging me. It is midnight, I can't see anything, and you know how the tracks are most always higher than the ground around them I couldn't sneak by him. So there I was (high drama here) dueling with a possume with an attitude. I couldn't help but think "rabbies". He charged me about 5 times. All I could do was "give em the boot" and every time I kicked him he came back for more. You talk about the proverbial Mexican Standoff, this was it. Neither one of us was about to give in, tuck tail or run. Finally after about (what seemed like hours) a few minutes he ran off the track and down into the ditch never to be seen again. What a relief. The battle was over and the good guys (guy) won. And yes this is a TRUE story. I bet some of our railroad buddies have a story something like this they too can share.

[Anonymous]

Signaling is full of exceptions, but in very broad terms ...

Semaphores indicate stop in the horizontal aspect, proceed at reduced speed (per specific railroad rule) in the diagonal aspect, and proceed at maximum authorized track speed in the vertial aspect. This works the same whether the semaphore is upper- or lower-quadrant. Many semaphores do not have the diagonal aspect; to get a third aspect two blades are needed in combination (SP and UP Harriman standard).

Position lights replicate the semaphore arm's three aspects with three plain lights. The PRR and N&W were the major users of position lights; one of the best place to still see them is just east of Chicago along the Skyway.

Color position lights replicate the semaphore arm's aspects with three lights, and use the common colors as well -- red indicates stop, yellow reduced speed, green proceed. The B&O was the major user of the CPL; it installed them on the Alton when it owned it. Later this was the GM&O, then CM&W, then SPCSL, and now UP.

Cab signals are in broad use. UP has them on the former C&NW main line in lieu of wayside signals, and on its own main line between Omaha and Ogden to supplement wayside signals.

Torpedos to my knowledge are no longer in use. Yes, they're loud enough to hear in the engine. They're powerful enough to remove a hand from someone.

[Anonymous]

Signaling is full of exceptions, but in very broad terms ...

Semaphores indicate stop in the horizontal aspect, proceed at reduced speed (per specific railroad rule) in the diagonal aspect, and proceed at maximum authorized track speed in the vertial aspect. This works the same whether the semaphore is upper- or lower-quadrant. Many semaphores do not have the diagonal aspect; to get a third aspect two blades are needed in combination (SP and UP Harriman standard).

Position lights replicate the semaphore arm's three aspects with three plain lights. The PRR and N&W were the major users of position lights; one of the best place to still see them is just east of Chicago along the Skyway.

Color position lights replicate the semaphore arm's aspects with three lights, and use the common colors as well -- red indicates stop, yellow reduced speed, green proceed. The B&O was the major user of the CPL; it installed them on the Alton when it owned it. Later this was the GM&O, then CM&W, then SPCSL, and now UP.

Cab signals are in broad use. UP has them on the former C&NW main line in lieu of wayside signals, and on its own main line between Omaha and Ogden to supplement wayside signals.

Torpedos to my knowledge are no longer in use. Yes, they're loud enough to hear in the engine. They're powerful enough to remove a hand from someone.

[edblysard]

Hi Mark,
Was just on a UP SD70M this afternoon, checked the flagmans kit. Still has torpedoes, along with fuses and the red flag.
Will take a photo of the torp, for those who are interested in what they look like.
Ed

[edblysard]

Hi Mark,
Was just on a UP SD70M this afternoon, checked the flagmans kit. Still has torpedoes, along with fuses and the red flag.
Will take a photo of the torp, for those who are interested in what they look like.
Ed

[Anonymous]

i still say we need to be able to post pictures on here!

[Anonymous]

i still say we need to be able to post pictures on here!

[joho2486]

Hi there. I'm relatively new to these forums, though I've subscribed to Trains Magazine for about 3 years now. I would like to throw my question into this wealth of knowledge. I would like to know what a "ruling grade" is. What I believe it is is that on a long steep grade to the top of a hill, it would be the steepest section of grade if the grade wasn't constant. I may be wrong, but hopefully, this wealth of knowledge will be nice to provide me an answer.

[joho2486]

Hi there. I'm relatively new to these forums, though I've subscribed to Trains Magazine for about 3 years now. I would like to throw my question into this wealth of knowledge. I would like to know what a "ruling grade" is. What I believe it is is that on a long steep grade to the top of a hill, it would be the steepest section of grade if the grade wasn't constant. I may be wrong, but hopefully, this wealth of knowledge will be nice to provide me an answer.

[edblysard]

Your correct, the ruleing grade is the steepest grade a train will face on or in that particular division.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Your correct, the ruleing grade is the steepest grade a train will face on or in that particular division.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Kev,
You should get a Victoria's secret catalog.
That kind of teddy,....[}:)]
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

It was a Joke! theres no story behind it.. it's 110 degrees out.. Pol-E bears don't like that kind fo weather.. well most don't..

White teddy suit Ed, between you and me, one year my GF went out as a carrot for haloween. LOL.. A FREKIN Carrot! what's scary about that... other then the fact that you can see perfectly in the dark!

Jim i like your Questions, and if you go to page 3 or 4 or 5 on the main forum page maybe 6, 7 or 8.. you'll find an entire topic dedicated to torpedoes..

[edblysard]

Kev,
You should get a Victoria's secret catalog.
That kind of teddy,....[}:)]
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

It was a Joke! theres no story behind it.. it's 110 degrees out.. Pol-E bears don't like that kind fo weather.. well most don't..

White teddy suit Ed, between you and me, one year my GF went out as a carrot for haloween. LOL.. A FREKIN Carrot! what's scary about that... other then the fact that you can see perfectly in the dark!

Jim i like your Questions, and if you go to page 3 or 4 or 5 on the main forum page maybe 6, 7 or 8.. you'll find an entire topic dedicated to torpedoes..

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

i still say we need to be able to post pictures on here!

You can post a link for a home page with pics.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

i still say we need to be able to post pictures on here!

You can post a link for a home page with pics.