Bad train pictures

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken


There has to be a red flag (at minimum) protecting the train during daylight hours and from an hour before dusk to an hour after dawn, a red light must be displayed.

...

Sounds like you saw a roadswitcher making a move to set out another car or pick one up before traveling a longer distance in some kind of absolute block....I'm sure Ed, Ken , Wabash, LC & Co will add to this (I'm normally trying to avoid them, I want all those visual cues- the more the better)

Well, I don't think that's quite what it was doing. I think it might've been a work train of some type; the cars appeared to be carrying ballast and there is work going on everywhere around here lately. It was shorter and the cars were a different type then the ballast train I usually see, though. I saw it just leaving the yard around late morning and then, in the evening, I saw the same train coming back past my house towards the yard (10 or so miles away). I guess they were being a little naughty because it was edging towards being pitch black, and there was still no light!

Thanks for the answer.

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken


There has to be a red flag (at minimum) protecting the train during daylight hours and from an hour before dusk to an hour after dawn, a red light must be displayed.

...

Sounds like you saw a roadswitcher making a move to set out another car or pick one up before traveling a longer distance in some kind of absolute block....I'm sure Ed, Ken , Wabash, LC & Co will add to this (I'm normally trying to avoid them, I want all those visual cues- the more the better)

Well, I don't think that's quite what it was doing. I think it might've been a work train of some type; the cars appeared to be carrying ballast and there is work going on everywhere around here lately. It was shorter and the cars were a different type then the ballast train I usually see, though. I saw it just leaving the yard around late morning and then, in the evening, I saw the same train coming back past my house towards the yard (10 or so miles away). I guess they were being a little naughty because it was edging towards being pitch black, and there was still no light!

Thanks for the answer.

--Nora

[edblysard]

Gee, I'm touched, your looking out for me!
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

where did you leave the mirror?)
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In the name of saftey so you wouldnt stick your head out the window to look at yourself and knock heads with another conductor passing the other direction doing the same thing. its in the conductors office under the lid. with a UTU sticker on it.

[edblysard]

Gee, I'm touched, your looking out for me!
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

where did you leave the mirror?)
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In the name of saftey so you wouldnt stick your head out the window to look at yourself and knock heads with another conductor passing the other direction doing the same thing. its in the conductors office under the lid. with a UTU sticker on it.

[edblysard]

Hi Nora,
the Fred, (flashing rear end device), or Eot,(end of train) is a flashing marker on the rear of any train operating within CTC trackage.

Description of use is found in the GCOR, section 5.10.1: Highly Visible Markers.
The rule states

Display a highly visible marker at the rear of every train as follows:

From 1 hour before sunset to 1 hour after sunrise.
When weather conditions restrict visibility to less than 1/2 mile.

And Rule 5.10.2

Alternative markers

Display a red flag or light fixture at the rear of the train as the marker when any of the following conditions exsist.

A highly visible marker is not required.

A defective car must be placed at the rear of the train for movement to a repair point.

The rear portion of the train is disabled and cannot be moved, and a highly visible marker cannot be displayed on the rear portion

OR

The highly visible marker becomes disabled enrout.

Translation as follows.

In daylight, flashing markers are not required outside of CTC and ABS territory until after dark.

A red flag is commonly used, in yard to yard transfer service under 20 miles in daylight, and not in yards at all the time.

The reason you see flashing markers on trains is because its easier to install one on a train that will travel several hundres miles, because you cant guarantee it will get where its going while its still daylight, or it may take several days to reach its destination, and you dont want to have to keep stoping to install one after dark, its easier to just put it on at the get go and leave it there.

Within CTC and ABS, markers, highly visible or otherwise, are required at all times.

Most short lines, belt roads, terminal and switching roads dont use Flashing rear end devices, we just use flags.

On the PTRA, because all of our tracks are considered within yard limits, and we operate under RTC,(radio traffic control, or "dark territory") we dont even use flags, unless we are going to the UP yard to pick up or drop off a train.

Most EOT or FREDS talk to the engineer, via radio signals, telling him the brake pipe pressure at the rear of the train, for brake test and such, and all are now required to be able to perform a emergency brake application when it receives a signal from the cab (engineer) to do so.

The engineer has a switch he can throw that will tell the fred to plug the train, in case his brakes fail to respond to the movements of the control surfaces on the control stand.
The fred also checks that it can talk to the cab every few seconds, and if comunications fail twice within 45 seconds, it will slowly apply the train brakes till the train stops, and will not allow the brakes to be released until someone goes to the rear and resets it manually, so they have to check the train as they go.

Freds and EOTs are what replaced the caboose on long haul trains, you dont need a rear brakeman now, the Fred can do his job, and the conductor rides up front now.

Bet what you saw was a work train, a ballest train taking rock to a repair site or where they are laying new rail, and work trains only operate in daylight, so it dosnt need a flashing rear end device, just the red flag under the rules.
Any help?
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

When does a train have to have one of those electronic flashing whatchamacallits on the end of the train, and when does it not? I assumed they always had to have one because just about every train I've seen has had one unless it was in the yard or something. Yesterday I saw a train that just had an orange flag stuck in the coupler on the back. It was a very short train , maybe 10 cars long, and the cars were low so I thought maybe it didn't need one since they could see all the way to the end of the train. Is that it?

--Nora

[edblysard]

Hi Nora,
the Fred, (flashing rear end device), or Eot,(end of train) is a flashing marker on the rear of any train operating within CTC trackage.

Description of use is found in the GCOR, section 5.10.1: Highly Visible Markers.
The rule states

Display a highly visible marker at the rear of every train as follows:

From 1 hour before sunset to 1 hour after sunrise.
When weather conditions restrict visibility to less than 1/2 mile.

And Rule 5.10.2

Alternative markers

Display a red flag or light fixture at the rear of the train as the marker when any of the following conditions exsist.

A highly visible marker is not required.

A defective car must be placed at the rear of the train for movement to a repair point.

The rear portion of the train is disabled and cannot be moved, and a highly visible marker cannot be displayed on the rear portion

OR

The highly visible marker becomes disabled enrout.

Translation as follows.

In daylight, flashing markers are not required outside of CTC and ABS territory until after dark.

A red flag is commonly used, in yard to yard transfer service under 20 miles in daylight, and not in yards at all the time.

The reason you see flashing markers on trains is because its easier to install one on a train that will travel several hundres miles, because you cant guarantee it will get where its going while its still daylight, or it may take several days to reach its destination, and you dont want to have to keep stoping to install one after dark, its easier to just put it on at the get go and leave it there.

Within CTC and ABS, markers, highly visible or otherwise, are required at all times.

Most short lines, belt roads, terminal and switching roads dont use Flashing rear end devices, we just use flags.

On the PTRA, because all of our tracks are considered within yard limits, and we operate under RTC,(radio traffic control, or "dark territory") we dont even use flags, unless we are going to the UP yard to pick up or drop off a train.

Most EOT or FREDS talk to the engineer, via radio signals, telling him the brake pipe pressure at the rear of the train, for brake test and such, and all are now required to be able to perform a emergency brake application when it receives a signal from the cab (engineer) to do so.

The engineer has a switch he can throw that will tell the fred to plug the train, in case his brakes fail to respond to the movements of the control surfaces on the control stand.
The fred also checks that it can talk to the cab every few seconds, and if comunications fail twice within 45 seconds, it will slowly apply the train brakes till the train stops, and will not allow the brakes to be released until someone goes to the rear and resets it manually, so they have to check the train as they go.

Freds and EOTs are what replaced the caboose on long haul trains, you dont need a rear brakeman now, the Fred can do his job, and the conductor rides up front now.

Bet what you saw was a work train, a ballest train taking rock to a repair site or where they are laying new rail, and work trains only operate in daylight, so it dosnt need a flashing rear end device, just the red flag under the rules.
Any help?
Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

When does a train have to have one of those electronic flashing whatchamacallits on the end of the train, and when does it not? I assumed they always had to have one because just about every train I've seen has had one unless it was in the yard or something. Yesterday I saw a train that just had an orange flag stuck in the coupler on the back. It was a very short train , maybe 10 cars long, and the cars were low so I thought maybe it didn't need one since they could see all the way to the end of the train. Is that it?

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Hi Nora,
the Fred, (flashing rear end device), or Eot,(end of train) is a flashing marker on the rear of any train operating within CTC trackage.

...

Within CTC and ABS, markers, highly visible or otherwise, are required at all times.

...

Any help?

Well, yes, but of course now I need to know what CTC and ABS are. [:)]

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Hi Nora,
the Fred, (flashing rear end device), or Eot,(end of train) is a flashing marker on the rear of any train operating within CTC trackage.

...

Within CTC and ABS, markers, highly visible or otherwise, are required at all times.

...

Any help?

Well, yes, but of course now I need to know what CTC and ABS are. [:)]

--Nora

[wabash1]

Nora

To answer your last question first ctc is traffic control all switches and signals are done by the dispatcher in the abs system it is a block system in which traffic is controlled by track warrent athority the dispatcher gives you permission to be on the track by written athourity. and the signals work as follows say you have a trackage listing A - M train 1 originates at "A" and is given a warrent to "K" he takes off and has green signal (clear) train 2 starts 5 min behind him and is given the same warrent he wont be able to leave til he gets a clear signal train 1 has to get his rear by signal "C" in abs the signals indicate that a red means something is in the block ahead of you a yellow means that the block you are entering is clear but the one past that has something in it. in short a clear means for at least to blocks its clear. ( a block is a disignated point defined by either the signals or stations . the signals are usually 2-2 1/2 miles apart. or a runing time of 10 min)

ok now back to the original Ed I agree with you but i have never had a eot stop me because of loss of communication. if we lose communication with the eot we must reduce the speed of the train to 30 mph until we either get communications back or replace the thing or get and and ignore it.. But the only things you left out ( and i think this is fra rules not just ns ) is requirments of a EOT the train tonnage has to be 4500 tons or a grade of 2% ( this is not percises but close ) or both. if the red flashing light and or EOT fails there is a built in reflector that signals the rear of train and this surfices for the red flashing light til you get to the next terminal or crew change point for repair. what is on the screen for us to know what is going on back there. The EOT tells us what the air pressure is at rear of train. in some cases this is how we know if we go into emergency from a busted air hose toward the rear. that will go to zero with a beep to alert you before you lose air pressure on the head end. sometimes the only warning you get so you can handle your train accordingly. it tells you if the rear is moving or stopped and if the light is on ( flashing ) or off. these are just things that ED didnt finish . And mainly applies to road trains if in terminal it is considered a cut of cars and no EOT is needed. A local working daylight hours only needs a flag.

[wabash1]

Nora

To answer your last question first ctc is traffic control all switches and signals are done by the dispatcher in the abs system it is a block system in which traffic is controlled by track warrent athority the dispatcher gives you permission to be on the track by written athourity. and the signals work as follows say you have a trackage listing A - M train 1 originates at "A" and is given a warrent to "K" he takes off and has green signal (clear) train 2 starts 5 min behind him and is given the same warrent he wont be able to leave til he gets a clear signal train 1 has to get his rear by signal "C" in abs the signals indicate that a red means something is in the block ahead of you a yellow means that the block you are entering is clear but the one past that has something in it. in short a clear means for at least to blocks its clear. ( a block is a disignated point defined by either the signals or stations . the signals are usually 2-2 1/2 miles apart. or a runing time of 10 min)

ok now back to the original Ed I agree with you but i have never had a eot stop me because of loss of communication. if we lose communication with the eot we must reduce the speed of the train to 30 mph until we either get communications back or replace the thing or get and and ignore it.. But the only things you left out ( and i think this is fra rules not just ns ) is requirments of a EOT the train tonnage has to be 4500 tons or a grade of 2% ( this is not percises but close ) or both. if the red flashing light and or EOT fails there is a built in reflector that signals the rear of train and this surfices for the red flashing light til you get to the next terminal or crew change point for repair. what is on the screen for us to know what is going on back there. The EOT tells us what the air pressure is at rear of train. in some cases this is how we know if we go into emergency from a busted air hose toward the rear. that will go to zero with a beep to alert you before you lose air pressure on the head end. sometimes the only warning you get so you can handle your train accordingly. it tells you if the rear is moving or stopped and if the light is on ( flashing ) or off. these are just things that ED didnt finish . And mainly applies to road trains if in terminal it is considered a cut of cars and no EOT is needed. A local working daylight hours only needs a flag.

[Anonymous]

NORA [^] [:)] [:p] [8D] [^]

As far as I can tell you win the prize for the most popular forum thread going. YOUR thread is 17 pages and has over 4,347 views. Another popular thread is zardoz's humor thread with 9 pages and over 1420 views. Kevin's thread NOT for cowards has 11 pages and 2654 views. The GE vs. EMD battle continues (but should have read EMDs better then GE -- at least what most railroader say anyway) with 11 pages and 1924 views. I might get run over in the parking lot for including this one but the railroad crossing thread was 12 pages and had 1558 views but we won't add anymore personal comments about that one. It express opinions not necessarily in the majority of our minds. I just listed the ones that had an appeal to me, you probally could find several more with a fair amount of pages and view.

I only checked this forum. But it does seem to be a popular one.

As I said early on in the thread "You did good" by starting this thread. It can be a timeless thread and unravel well into the future. [:D] [:D] [:D]

THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS THREAD. [;)]

Good job [:I] [8)] [:p]

[Anonymous]

NORA [^] [:)] [:p] [8D] [^]

As far as I can tell you win the prize for the most popular forum thread going. YOUR thread is 17 pages and has over 4,347 views. Another popular thread is zardoz's humor thread with 9 pages and over 1420 views. Kevin's thread NOT for cowards has 11 pages and 2654 views. The GE vs. EMD battle continues (but should have read EMDs better then GE -- at least what most railroader say anyway) with 11 pages and 1924 views. I might get run over in the parking lot for including this one but the railroad crossing thread was 12 pages and had 1558 views but we won't add anymore personal comments about that one. It express opinions not necessarily in the majority of our minds. I just listed the ones that had an appeal to me, you probally could find several more with a fair amount of pages and view.

I only checked this forum. But it does seem to be a popular one.

As I said early on in the thread "You did good" by starting this thread. It can be a timeless thread and unravel well into the future. [:D] [:D] [:D]

THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS THREAD. [;)]

Good job [:I] [8)] [:p]

[CG9602]

Speaking of stupid or crazy questions . . .
The story that has been making the rounds of rail buffs here is WI goes something like this: When railfanning one paritcular location in S WI, a railfan was joined by an individual who had just stumbled out of the local bar. The bar patron askes the railfan if he ever went joyriding around the RR with one of the grain hoppers. The bar patron then makes statements to the effect that the brake tension wheels on the grain hoppers are in fact steering implements. The bar patron coninues to make these statements despite being corrected by the railfan. Said railfan points out that the wheels on the train cars aren't connected to any sort of steering mechanism, not in the same fashion that one steers an auto. The drunk then states something to the effect of "Really? You mean that you can't steer these things? It has a wheell, why not?" The drunk also makes statements to the effect of why the D*** trains can't get out of the way when they see a vehicle on the tracks. Railfan points out that when trains depart from the RR tracks, this is called a derailment, and is something undesireable for everyone involved.

I apologize that I'm unable to recall the precise story. Trust me, it was hilarious.[:D][:D]

[CG9602]

Speaking of stupid or crazy questions . . .
The story that has been making the rounds of rail buffs here is WI goes something like this: When railfanning one paritcular location in S WI, a railfan was joined by an individual who had just stumbled out of the local bar. The bar patron askes the railfan if he ever went joyriding around the RR with one of the grain hoppers. The bar patron then makes statements to the effect that the brake tension wheels on the grain hoppers are in fact steering implements. The bar patron coninues to make these statements despite being corrected by the railfan. Said railfan points out that the wheels on the train cars aren't connected to any sort of steering mechanism, not in the same fashion that one steers an auto. The drunk then states something to the effect of "Really? You mean that you can't steer these things? It has a wheell, why not?" The drunk also makes statements to the effect of why the D*** trains can't get out of the way when they see a vehicle on the tracks. Railfan points out that when trains depart from the RR tracks, this is called a derailment, and is something undesireable for everyone involved.

I apologize that I'm unable to recall the precise story. Trust me, it was hilarious.[:D][:D]

[Puckdropper]

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[Puckdropper]

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[Anonymous]

Around 5 am I was walking Duchess and heard a train horn. I bagan thinking about our Amtrak train that comes in around 5 or so in the am hours. Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule. Now I doubt very much that they stop for an hour and kill time on the mainline. So how do they handle this oddity that occurs twice a year? The being early isn't to bad, but what about next spring when we set the clocks forward? How do they handle suddenly beging an hour late?

[Anonymous]

Around 5 am I was walking Duchess and heard a train horn. I bagan thinking about our Amtrak train that comes in around 5 or so in the am hours. Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule. Now I doubt very much that they stop for an hour and kill time on the mainline. So how do they handle this oddity that occurs twice a year? The being early isn't to bad, but what about next spring when we set the clocks forward? How do they handle suddenly beging an hour late?

[CG9602]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Puckdropper

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[:D] I was able to contact a friend, and so I was able to post the most accurate version in the Humor thread, puckdropper. I thought I'd post something here, becuase at the time, I thought that asking if the hand brake wheels are for steering, and the whole concept of joy-riding a car around the yards (unpowered, no less) was kind of stupid. However, those folks are out there - you might run into one of them when you're out railfanning.

[:p][:D][8D] Try to remain polite when confronted with their ignorance.

[CG9602]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Puckdropper

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[:D] I was able to contact a friend, and so I was able to post the most accurate version in the Humor thread, puckdropper. I thought I'd post something here, becuase at the time, I thought that asking if the hand brake wheels are for steering, and the whole concept of joy-riding a car around the yards (unpowered, no less) was kind of stupid. However, those folks are out there - you might run into one of them when you're out railfanning.

[:p][:D][8D] Try to remain polite when confronted with their ignorance.

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?

[:p]

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?

[:p]

--Nora

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[:X] Not a gonna happen here - if I rode Amtrak I would have to go down to the depot at Midnite and hope to catch it sometime before sunrise. You know the Mookie goes to bed at 8:30 pm and would be sound asleep in the depot pew as Amtrak went by! I either have to fly or move someplace where the transportation runs in the daytime!

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[:X] Not a gonna happen here - if I rode Amtrak I would have to go down to the depot at Midnite and hope to catch it sometime before sunrise. You know the Mookie goes to bed at 8:30 pm and would be sound asleep in the depot pew as Amtrak went by! I either have to fly or move someplace where the transportation runs in the daytime!

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie

[Anonymous]

Mookie [:p]

Never say never. [:o)]

You never know, things may change, you just might even change your mind for some reason and try it again.

[Anonymous]

Mookie [:p]

Never say never. [:o)]

You never know, things may change, you just might even change your mind for some reason and try it again.