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Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 1:16 PM
Thanks Mookie!

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Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 1:16 PM
Thanks Mookie!

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Posted by ironhorseman on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.
Congratulations! We have NS running through Lincoln a lot! I just happen to be kinda partial to the black and white and horse, so always have to stop and look!

Now y'all can throw rocks because I like the horse, but I am in absentia (that's like really gone Dude!)

Tomorrow

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.
Congratulations! We have NS running through Lincoln a lot! I just happen to be kinda partial to the black and white and horse, so always have to stop and look!

Now y'all can throw rocks because I like the horse, but I am in absentia (that's like really gone Dude!)

Tomorrow

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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:30 PM
YOU WIN!

You will be contacted by your local Chevy dealer to receive one on the new 2004 Suburban Convertables from the Chicago Autorack incident. Of coures you will be required to pay the CA auto tax on it. Unless Arnold keeps his promise and repeals it shortly.

I presumed it was run through (the first NS unit I've seen here though) and it was coupled with 2 BNSFs and a UP...you are again correct.

The port terminal here does have an auto facility, jammed packed this morning with Automax's. So as an addtional bonus, you will receive an authentic 9 page CA recall election ballot with all 123 candidates names on it complete with a dangling, pregnant chad.
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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:30 PM
YOU WIN!

You will be contacted by your local Chevy dealer to receive one on the new 2004 Suburban Convertables from the Chicago Autorack incident. Of coures you will be required to pay the CA auto tax on it. Unless Arnold keeps his promise and repeals it shortly.

I presumed it was run through (the first NS unit I've seen here though) and it was coupled with 2 BNSFs and a UP...you are again correct.

The port terminal here does have an auto facility, jammed packed this morning with Automax's. So as an addtional bonus, you will receive an authentic 9 page CA recall election ballot with all 123 candidates names on it complete with a dangling, pregnant chad.
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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 3:09 PM
Back to my earlier question about Amtrak crews, do they refer to the same territories as the host railroad, and are they qualified uder the same criteria as the freight engineers? Does an Amtrak crew travel farther than a freight crew (hypothetically if both were to run end to end of their areas if they didn't have to worry about going dead) or is that similar?
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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 3:09 PM
Back to my earlier question about Amtrak crews, do they refer to the same territories as the host railroad, and are they qualified uder the same criteria as the freight engineers? Does an Amtrak crew travel farther than a freight crew (hypothetically if both were to run end to end of their areas if they didn't have to worry about going dead) or is that similar?
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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 3:18 PM
I've got another question for a railroad employee (or I guess anyone else who may know the answer)...
What is the purpose of the call in tones on the radio? For instance, where I live I'll hear what sounds like someone dialing (usually 3 digits), followed by a beep beep. A shor time later I'll hear the dispatcher pipe up, "BNSF Omaha dispatcher answering Glenwood radio, over." Why can't the train / track crew just radio to the dispatcher? I know the subs are on different radio channels, as well as yards on different channels than the main lines. Is there some detail that I'm missing?
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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 3:18 PM
I've got another question for a railroad employee (or I guess anyone else who may know the answer)...
What is the purpose of the call in tones on the radio? For instance, where I live I'll hear what sounds like someone dialing (usually 3 digits), followed by a beep beep. A shor time later I'll hear the dispatcher pipe up, "BNSF Omaha dispatcher answering Glenwood radio, over." Why can't the train / track crew just radio to the dispatcher? I know the subs are on different radio channels, as well as yards on different channels than the main lines. Is there some detail that I'm missing?
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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:41 PM
the ns power you see in southern california is from the conductor( the guy who knows all and is the boss) telling what ever engineer it is where to go. ( as the original engineer already got off the train in kc.) see the conductor fell asleep looking at himself in the mirror, and woke up when they got to the yard and of course the ns didnt miss him.

amtrak engineers are just that they are qualified on a certain amount of track, it can be farther than the frieght engineer because of milage but in most cases not. the change point is where the company wants it to be,

the tones you hear are just that we are calling up the dispatcher. if a dispatcher has 300 miles of track and several spur lines it is impossible sometimes to keep track of all the people calling and who is working. if you tone the dispatcher he knows what tower to answer and most generally what train is calling it makes his end of the radio quieter.
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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:41 PM
the ns power you see in southern california is from the conductor( the guy who knows all and is the boss) telling what ever engineer it is where to go. ( as the original engineer already got off the train in kc.) see the conductor fell asleep looking at himself in the mirror, and woke up when they got to the yard and of course the ns didnt miss him.

amtrak engineers are just that they are qualified on a certain amount of track, it can be farther than the frieght engineer because of milage but in most cases not. the change point is where the company wants it to be,

the tones you hear are just that we are calling up the dispatcher. if a dispatcher has 300 miles of track and several spur lines it is impossible sometimes to keep track of all the people calling and who is working. if you tone the dispatcher he knows what tower to answer and most generally what train is calling it makes his end of the radio quieter.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:54 PM
About run-through power. I assume it is the same case when I notice some of the western roads units over here on NS mainline. I have spotted (and filmed) several Union Pacific and BNSF locomotives (all DC) on NS trains going through here. It is awesome to see the other roads, I wish I could see more.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:54 PM
About run-through power. I assume it is the same case when I notice some of the western roads units over here on NS mainline. I have spotted (and filmed) several Union Pacific and BNSF locomotives (all DC) on NS trains going through here. It is awesome to see the other roads, I wish I could see more.
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.


Okay a got a better look at the NS unit at the port of SD this morning. (First you have to understand I get a few seconds glance crossing a bridge over the top of it, and quite frankly the California drivers get most of my attention, kinda like NASCAR with fewer rules). It is still in town, but now coupled to two BNSF pumpkins and a train of covered hoppers, looking like it was getting ready to leave. The interesting thing is that the NS on both sides was missing. Still had the stripes. Any ideas???
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.


Okay a got a better look at the NS unit at the port of SD this morning. (First you have to understand I get a few seconds glance crossing a bridge over the top of it, and quite frankly the California drivers get most of my attention, kinda like NASCAR with fewer rules). It is still in town, but now coupled to two BNSF pumpkins and a train of covered hoppers, looking like it was getting ready to leave. The interesting thing is that the NS on both sides was missing. Still had the stripes. Any ideas???
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.


Okay a got a better look at the NS unit at the port of SD this morning. (First you have to understand I get a few seconds glance crossing a bridge over the top of it, and quite frankly the California drivers get most of my attention, kinda like NASCAR with fewer rules). It is still in town, but now coupled to two BNSF pumpkins and a train of covered hoppers, looking like it was getting ready to leave. The interesting thing is that the NS on both sides was missing. Still had the stripes. Any ideas???
Somewhere in a brain wrinkle it seems that someone said or I read that there is another engine that is kind of a NS look alike and has black w/white stripes.
Would that be it and explain why no NS on side?

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So why in the world was a NS unit in SoCal today?


I know the answer! I'll answer this one! (Plus it'll give me a chance to be part of the most popular thread on the web! (301 posts with this one))!

An NS loco in Southern California is part of what's called run-through power. I'll assume you saw it on a BNSF train? Or if not, if it was sitting around it's probably waiting for it's return east. Run through power is when railroads kinda loan their locos to other railroads. I've seen NS on BNSF trains a lot through here the last several months. The trains through here go from LA to KC to CHI and back again. I've been told it's possible the NS engine came from KC, since they have a line through there and they have an auto-carrier yard, which, by the way, I've seen.

That's about the jist of it. I reconstructed the answer from memory from what others have said on this forum. So someone correct me if I'm wrong or add it to it.


Okay a got a better look at the NS unit at the port of SD this morning. (First you have to understand I get a few seconds glance crossing a bridge over the top of it, and quite frankly the California drivers get most of my attention, kinda like NASCAR with fewer rules). It is still in town, but now coupled to two BNSF pumpkins and a train of covered hoppers, looking like it was getting ready to leave. The interesting thing is that the NS on both sides was missing. Still had the stripes. Any ideas???
Somewhere in a brain wrinkle it seems that someone said or I read that there is another engine that is kind of a NS look alike and has black w/white stripes.
Would that be it and explain why no NS on side?

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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:54 PM
HMMMM........Probably a UP mole. Make it look like, BNSF and NS are merging, so they can takeover CSX.......HMMMMM. I see a conspiracy developing. We better invade North Korea now, before this North Korea/Iran/UP axis of evil gets out of hand.
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:54 PM
HMMMM........Probably a UP mole. Make it look like, BNSF and NS are merging, so they can takeover CSX.......HMMMMM. I see a conspiracy developing. We better invade North Korea now, before this North Korea/Iran/UP axis of evil gets out of hand.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 9, 2003 1:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

HMMMM........Probably a UP mole. Make it look like, BNSF and NS are merging, so they can takeover CSX.......HMMMMM. I see a conspiracy developing. We better invade North Korea now, before this North Korea/Iran/UP axis of evil gets out of hand.
erase that before GW sees it!

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 9, 2003 1:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

HMMMM........Probably a UP mole. Make it look like, BNSF and NS are merging, so they can takeover CSX.......HMMMMM. I see a conspiracy developing. We better invade North Korea now, before this North Korea/Iran/UP axis of evil gets out of hand.
erase that before GW sees it!

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Posted by techguy57 on Thursday, October 9, 2003 4:11 PM
OK. Here's another. Just got back from running some errands and got stopped by a freight. Fun one too, auto parts and empty auto trains mostly, going to the Belvidere auto plant. Five UP engines, including an ex-CNW GM EMD MP15DC. But I digress, my question stems around 2 reporting marks I can't track down: RVPR and SLGR, the latter being a centerbeam carrying lumber, unfortunately I failed to write down what the first one was. Anyone know to whom these might belong?

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Posted by techguy57 on Thursday, October 9, 2003 4:11 PM
OK. Here's another. Just got back from running some errands and got stopped by a freight. Fun one too, auto parts and empty auto trains mostly, going to the Belvidere auto plant. Five UP engines, including an ex-CNW GM EMD MP15DC. But I digress, my question stems around 2 reporting marks I can't track down: RVPR and SLGR, the latter being a centerbeam carrying lumber, unfortunately I failed to write down what the first one was. Anyone know to whom these might belong?

Mike
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Posted by Nora on Monday, October 13, 2003 6:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

.....I have wondered about the tank cars being lower in the middle just as you Nora...and I recently read it is to enhance the process of draining of the liquid.


I never even noticed that they were lower in the middle on the bottom as well as the top. [:I] If I had looked more carefully, I probably could have guessed the answer to my own question. Thanks for answering. [:)]

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Posted by Nora on Monday, October 13, 2003 6:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

.....I have wondered about the tank cars being lower in the middle just as you Nora...and I recently read it is to enhance the process of draining of the liquid.


I never even noticed that they were lower in the middle on the bottom as well as the top. [:I] If I had looked more carefully, I probably could have guessed the answer to my own question. Thanks for answering. [:)]

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Posted by Nora on Monday, October 13, 2003 6:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

Hey Jim look out nora will be catching up as soon as she gets settled in.Nora when you do I got pictures for you.[:)]


I'm still not settled in, I just spent about an hour and a half here at the library deleting nearly 800 emails (I kept 13, I think) and decided to check in here. I'll let you know...they think it'll be about two more weeks before we can move.

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Posted by Nora on Monday, October 13, 2003 6:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

Hey Jim look out nora will be catching up as soon as she gets settled in.Nora when you do I got pictures for you.[:)]


I'm still not settled in, I just spent about an hour and a half here at the library deleting nearly 800 emails (I kept 13, I think) and decided to check in here. I'll let you know...they think it'll be about two more weeks before we can move.

--Nora

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