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[Modelcar]

....If Drawbridge is a type, I wonder if there is both a single Draw and double Draw bridge....? The one I spoke of above in Florida is a single Draw bridge. Personally, I doubt if there is a double for railroad use....Too much weight to pass over it...?? Must admit I haven't looked it up but guess I better go and do just that now.

[Modelcar]

....If Drawbridge is a type, I wonder if there is both a single Draw and double Draw bridge....? The one I spoke of above in Florida is a single Draw bridge. Personally, I doubt if there is a double for railroad use....Too much weight to pass over it...?? Must admit I haven't looked it up but guess I better go and do just that now.

[DaveBr]

OK<Stupid or senseable?Outside Eugene,Oregon about 5 miles north going on #14 to
Albany there is a Draw Bridge on the abandon track about 1/4 mile.It's over a river??
but I can't figure out why??? There is no room for any type of boats except maybe a row boat to pass under.This is a beautiful antique bridge and it must be called something else because it looks like it goes strait up and down.Maybe hydrolic?Was this river ever deeper then now?? Thanks,,DaveBr. Glendale,Ca

[DaveBr]

OK<Stupid or senseable?Outside Eugene,Oregon about 5 miles north going on #14 to
Albany there is a Draw Bridge on the abandon track about 1/4 mile.It's over a river??
but I can't figure out why??? There is no room for any type of boats except maybe a row boat to pass under.This is a beautiful antique bridge and it must be called something else because it looks like it goes strait up and down.Maybe hydrolic?Was this river ever deeper then now?? Thanks,,DaveBr. Glendale,Ca

[lonewoof]

How are you defining "drawbridge"? I thought ANY movable bridge span: bascule, swing, vertical lift, whatever...was a "drawbridge".

[lonewoof]

How are you defining "drawbridge"? I thought ANY movable bridge span: bascule, swing, vertical lift, whatever...was a "drawbridge".

[Anonymous]

The BNSF mainline north out of Seattle has a draw bridge over the Lake Washington Ship Canal. Been there as long as I can remember. Draw bridges are not at all uncommon on railroads.

[Anonymous]

The BNSF mainline north out of Seattle has a draw bridge over the Lake Washington Ship Canal. Been there as long as I can remember. Draw bridges are not at all uncommon on railroads.

[Modelcar]

...There is a very active one right north of Sanford, Fl...on waters leading from Lake Monroe. CSX travels over it passenger Amtrak as well....I have ridden over it on Amtrak. It is parallel at that location to Rt. 17-92.

[Modelcar]

...There is a very active one right north of Sanford, Fl...on waters leading from Lake Monroe. CSX travels over it passenger Amtrak as well....I have ridden over it on Amtrak. It is parallel at that location to Rt. 17-92.

[dehusman]

Drawbridges are very common. Go to Chicago, they are all over the place. There were at least 3 or 4 in the Philadelphia area. At Darby Creek (near Eddystone, PA) the PRR and RDG both had multiple track drawbridges side by side.

Dave H.

[dehusman]

Drawbridges are very common. Go to Chicago, they are all over the place. There were at least 3 or 4 in the Philadelphia area. At Darby Creek (near Eddystone, PA) the PRR and RDG both had multiple track drawbridges side by side.

Dave H.

[edblysard]

Yes Jim, there is...
The original causeway from the mainland to Galveston Island was designed with a counter weight drawbridge almost dead center, to allow entrance into the harbor by ocean going ships.
The original is still there, althought restricted to train only traffic, (no automobiles or pedestrians)

From the beginning, the causeway was meant for the interurban and freight service between Houston and Galveston, and had only a one lane automobile/horse and carrige lane, with double tracks for the trains.

It still stands today, part of the BNSF main onto the island, and the drawbridge is still working.
Type Galveston Causeway into your search engine, there are a lot of photos of it being built...

Ed

[edblysard]

Yes Jim, there is...
The original causeway from the mainland to Galveston Island was designed with a counter weight drawbridge almost dead center, to allow entrance into the harbor by ocean going ships.
The original is still there, althought restricted to train only traffic, (no automobiles or pedestrians)

From the beginning, the causeway was meant for the interurban and freight service between Houston and Galveston, and had only a one lane automobile/horse and carrige lane, with double tracks for the trains.

It still stands today, part of the BNSF main onto the island, and the drawbridge is still working.
Type Galveston Causeway into your search engine, there are a lot of photos of it being built...

Ed

[Anonymous]

Hey, I wouldn't mind a few of those types of presents under the tree either. [;)]


OK, next question for

MC
LC
Carl
Mark
Ed
and others who might know.

Is there such a thing as a railroad drawbridge and if so where? The reason I ask is this. I have seen lift span bridges, we have one here. I have seen pics of railroad swing bridges that basically turn on a turntable type operation. But is there or has there ever been a railroad drawbridge? I have a thread going in the Model Railroader forum about bridges. Here is a link to it.

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21744

Is a railroad drawbridge even practical? If so, it seems like it would have to be fairly short. We have seen movies of the drawbridge going up on cars and trucks, so what about trains? Do any of the "road" drawbridges have a set of railroad tracks under the road section?

Awww, now I bet I have a few thinking on this one. [;)] [:D]

[Anonymous]

Hey, I wouldn't mind a few of those types of presents under the tree either. [;)]


OK, next question for

MC
LC
Carl
Mark
Ed
and others who might know.

Is there such a thing as a railroad drawbridge and if so where? The reason I ask is this. I have seen lift span bridges, we have one here. I have seen pics of railroad swing bridges that basically turn on a turntable type operation. But is there or has there ever been a railroad drawbridge? I have a thread going in the Model Railroader forum about bridges. Here is a link to it.

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21744

Is a railroad drawbridge even practical? If so, it seems like it would have to be fairly short. We have seen movies of the drawbridge going up on cars and trucks, so what about trains? Do any of the "road" drawbridges have a set of railroad tracks under the road section?

Awww, now I bet I have a few thinking on this one. [;)] [:D]

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Now, come on! I was trying to be nice here. Besides, CW lives in slug country, so silence isn't the best clue to GEs in that case.

Hmmmmmm. Slug. GE. Some might say that the slug is better than the GE. I have no opinion in the matter....

What's twice as quiet as a slug? A slug hooked to a GE..... [:D]

<Psssssst - 'Mutt... Christmas present idea: Diesel Spotters Guide>

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Now, come on! I was trying to be nice here. Besides, CW lives in slug country, so silence isn't the best clue to GEs in that case.

Hmmmmmm. Slug. GE. Some might say that the slug is better than the GE. I have no opinion in the matter....

What's twice as quiet as a slug? A slug hooked to a GE..... [:D]

<Psssssst - 'Mutt... Christmas present idea: Diesel Spotters Guide>

[Junctionfan]

Are they priority trains or regular?

[Junctionfan]

Are they priority trains or regular?

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M.W. Hemphill

Sort of, Andrew. There are solid blocks, at least, and sometimes all of the blocks on one train happen to be all one customer. I would bet that the mostly likely customer for that to occur for is J.B. Hunt. But I know of no regular double-stack movement that is restricted to one customer. I think it would be unusual enough that the customer and railroad would want everyone to know about it, too.

I was thinking more of a mixed domestic container freight-APL, Pacer Stack Train, EMP, NACS, STAX etc.

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M.W. Hemphill

Sort of, Andrew. There are solid blocks, at least, and sometimes all of the blocks on one train happen to be all one customer. I would bet that the mostly likely customer for that to occur for is J.B. Hunt. But I know of no regular double-stack movement that is restricted to one customer. I think it would be unusual enough that the customer and railroad would want everyone to know about it, too.

I was thinking more of a mixed domestic container freight-APL, Pacer Stack Train, EMP, NACS, STAX etc.

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Now, come on! I was trying to be nice here. Besides, CW lives in slug country, so silence isn't the best clue to GEs in that case.

Now,lets see;the GEs, are they the ones that go: POKA,POKA,POKA,POKA,THUD[?]
If so that's about half what we get thru here daily.[:D]

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Now, come on! I was trying to be nice here. Besides, CW lives in slug country, so silence isn't the best clue to GEs in that case.

Now,lets see;the GEs, are they the ones that go: POKA,POKA,POKA,POKA,THUD[?]
If so that's about half what we get thru here daily.[:D]

[Junctionfan]

Are there solid domenstic container trains (double stacked or not?) and if so how long are they? Which railroads run thease?

[Junctionfan]

Are there solid domenstic container trains (double stacked or not?) and if so how long are they? Which railroads run thease?

[CShaveRR]

Now, come on! I was trying to be nice here. Besides, CW lives in slug country, so silence isn't the best clue to GEs in that case.

[CShaveRR]

Now, come on! I was trying to be nice here. Besides, CW lives in slug country, so silence isn't the best clue to GEs in that case.

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Paula, Paula, Paula [sigh]!

It's far easier to show someone the differences than to describe them. Some of the diesel-spotters' guides have illustrations of various models, and you can decide for yourself what makes them look distinctive to a given builder.

A GP is a model built by EMD (the Electro-Motive Division of GM).

An Alco is built by the American Locomotive Company or its successors. If your Mutt starts foaming at the mouth when he sees an Alco, he's got a good reason--none of them have been built in about 35 years.

It's still safe to say (for the most part) that GEs sound different from GMs. If it screams, chugs, and/or wheezes when it goes by (or makes a traditional air-compressor noise sometimes when it's standing still), it's a GE. The GMs (EMDs) sound a lot smoother.

I think it's also safe to say that if it has radiators (not fans) on top of the roof, and "wings" at the hind end, it's a GE. The GE widenose cab is unique; GM's gone through a few nose designs and variations.

So get on out there, and keep your eyes and ears open!

Carl

Another way to tell the difference between GE and EMD by the sound:If an engine is completely silent,making no sound at all,(because the engine has konked out) it is most likely a GE[}:)]!

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Paula, Paula, Paula [sigh]!

It's far easier to show someone the differences than to describe them. Some of the diesel-spotters' guides have illustrations of various models, and you can decide for yourself what makes them look distinctive to a given builder.

A GP is a model built by EMD (the Electro-Motive Division of GM).

An Alco is built by the American Locomotive Company or its successors. If your Mutt starts foaming at the mouth when he sees an Alco, he's got a good reason--none of them have been built in about 35 years.

It's still safe to say (for the most part) that GEs sound different from GMs. If it screams, chugs, and/or wheezes when it goes by (or makes a traditional air-compressor noise sometimes when it's standing still), it's a GE. The GMs (EMDs) sound a lot smoother.

I think it's also safe to say that if it has radiators (not fans) on top of the roof, and "wings" at the hind end, it's a GE. The GE widenose cab is unique; GM's gone through a few nose designs and variations.

So get on out there, and keep your eyes and ears open!

Carl

Another way to tell the difference between GE and EMD by the sound:If an engine is completely silent,making no sound at all,(because the engine has konked out) it is most likely a GE[}:)]!