Canadian Railways Operations

[nanaimo73]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Burlington Northern Manitoba Limited is a railway with about a mile of track in Winnipeg and trackage rights to the border.

Is this a remnent of J.J. Hill's railroad from St. Paul to Winnipeg? Something like the Minnesota, Winnipeg and Northern?

Burlington Northern Manitoba Limited is now Burlington Northern Santa Fe (Manitoba) Inc., and has Canadian built GP 9 1685 for power. The section of track is a remnant of Northern Pacific's Manitoba trackage, which reached about 350 miles. In 1901 NP leased the rest of their track to the Provincial government, and they leased it to Canadian Northern. CN purchased it in 1946. CN still operates the track from the border to Winnipeg and then west to Portage La Prairie. A 140 mile line running west from Morris is now the Southern Manitoba Railway.
http://alcoworld.railfan.net/smnr.htm

[nanaimo73]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

Are cabooses gone from the Canadian Railways like they are from American Railroads? (Of course, you might call them vans, or waycars, or something else?[;)])

Thanks

I believe CN and CP started dropping cabooses during 1988, and the process was similar to that in the United States, but a year or two behind. I think BC Rail was a couple of years behind the big guys.

[Murphy Siding]

Are cabooses gone from the Canadian Railways like they are from American Railroads? (Of course, you might call them vans, or waycars, or something else?[;)])

Thanks

[Isambard]

Check out my photo of Via #33 with Canadian WWII Vets on board, 10 November:
http://www.railroadforums.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32389&cat=659&limit=recent

[CrazyDiamond]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BudKarr

When do you suppose the last 32 car passenger train operated in Canada? Wednesday, Via Rail's "Ocean" departed for Montreal with over 300 WWII veterans, military retirees and their families bound for Ottawa and the commemoration which took place today.

The train is to return to Halifax on Sunday. I have seen a few photographs and it appears to be an all Budd stainless steel consist. Well done, Via Rail for the idea and the use of the proper equipment.

BK

I went to a junction today and got a picture of this train whizzing by!

[CrazyDiamond]

In case any one is interested:
http://www.novascotiarailwayheritage.com/index.htm

Also there is a shortline that runs in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.
http://www.railtex.com/railmaps/CBNS.htm

[beaulieu]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Burlington Northern Manitoba Limited is a railway with about a mile of track in Winnipeg and trackage rights to the border.

Is this a remnent of J.J. Hill's railroad from St. Paul to Winnipeg? Something like the Minnesota, Winnipeg and Northern?

Yes, only the branch to Brandon,MB has been abandoned.

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Burlington Northern Manitoba Limited is a railway with about a mile of track in Winnipeg and trackage rights to the border.

Is this a remnent of J.J. Hill's railroad from St. Paul to Winnipeg? Something like the Minnesota, Winnipeg and Northern?

[BudKarr]

When do you suppose the last 32 car passenger train operated in Canada? Wednesday, Via Rail's "Ocean" departed for Montreal with over 300 WWII veterans, military retirees and their families bound for Ottawa and the commemoration which took place today.

The train is to return to Halifax on Sunday. I have seen a few photographs and it appears to be an all Budd stainless steel consist. Well done, Via Rail for the idea and the use of the proper equipment.

I apologize if this was discussed, but Ihave not seen mention on this topic.

If any military veterans frequent this topic (thread), I salute you for your service on this Veterans and Remembrance Day!

BK

[nanaimo73]

Burlington Northern Manitoba Limited is a railway with about a mile of track in Winnipeg and trackage rights to the border.

[Murphy Siding]

Grand Trunk is the American arm of CN. (Grand Funk Railroad is something else entirely!). Are there Canadian railroads owned by American railroads?

[samfp1943]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by samfp1943

Recently, I saw some links on the Alaska Railroad website: The were in reference to studies of extentions of the AKRR ,to tie in with a Canadian partner and open a land link to Alaska via rail.. I am wondering if there is any serious consideration on the Canadian side for this to happen? One of the studies linked on the AK RR site was a study by CN.. It would seem that if this happened it would create a real bonanza in traffic for carriers involved.

I can't see the line being built from Fort Nelson to the Alaskan border with Canadian money. A $5 billion natural gas pipeline is planned for the MacKenzie Valley and a $10 billion natural gas pipeline is going to be built along the Alaska Highway.
$100 billion is laid out for various projects in the Alberta Tar Sands.
I can't see American or Alaskan taxpayers paying for a railway in Canada.
The railway makes sense, but there is no one to pay for it.

Aparently, I thought that I had read, and interpreted the information to indicate that the AKRR extention was to be a part of a sort of super corridor project, to include piplines and highway as well as a rail connection..I am sure the financing would be a prettty arcane exercise, but this kind of enterprise would surely open that whole area up to major economic development.. Still it is a pretty interesting study.

[nanaimo73]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jchnhtfd

QUOTE: Originally posted by THayman

There's a CSX canadian division?

believe it or not! Basically Detroit/Windsor to Hamilton to Niagara Falls -- ex New York Central. Not sure but I think some of the track is pulled up and it operates on CN by trackage rights -- JunctionFan would know.

The CSX in Canada ran from Detroit / Windsor to St. Thomas and then on trackage rights over NYC to Buffalo. A second line ran from Sarnia / Port Huron down to the first line at Blenheim. This trackage came from the Pere Marquette Railway. I believe all that remains is in the petrochemical area south of Sarnia.

NS had or has trackage rights from Detroit to Buffalo which came from the Wabash.

[jchnhtfd]

QUOTE: Originally posted by THayman

There's a CSX canadian division?

believe it or not! Basically Detroit/Windsor to Hamilton to Niagara Falls -- ex New York Central. Not sure but I think some of the track is pulled up and it operates on CN by trackage rights -- JunctionFan would know.

[THayman]

There's a CSX canadian division?

[selector]

Sure, why not. They had their first movie theatre built in 69! [:D]

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

The 2141 in Kamloops was built by CLC in 1912 for the Canadian Northern Railway. I believe it was the last operating CNR steam locomotive on Vancouver Island.
In Ottawa 2 truck shay #3 has been restored to operation. It was used by Crown Zellerbach here on the Island at Campbell River to unload barges into the 1970's.

You had an active steam locomotive working into the 1970?[:)]

[Anonymous]

Wow! Thanks, Dale.

[nanaimo73]

Allen,
The shot on the inside cover of the December Trains is from Morant's Curve, located in Banff National Park in Alberta near the border with British Columbia. This is widely regarded as the most scenic shot in Canada.
http://www.pbase.com/turnstyle/image/49796670
http://www.pbase.com/turnstyle/image/49824255
http://www.photosbyearly.com/morntcrv.htm

It was named after long time CPR photographer Nicholas Morant, who took many PR shots here.
http://www.sandhillbooks.com/cgi-bin/sandhillbooks/180.html

The locomotives in the Alstom ad are 2 CP AC4400CW followed by a leaser that looks like an ex Conrail C30-7. That is an eastbound (empty) pota***rain with Canadian style cylindrical cars.

http://www.coloradorailcar.com/about.htm

Your thread-
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=48259&REPLY_ID=525701#525701

[nanaimo73]

The 2141 in Kamloops was built by CLC in 1912 for the Canadian Northern Railway. I believe it was the last operating CNR steam locomotive on Vancouver Island.
In Ottawa 2 truck shay #3 has been restored to operation. It was used by Crown Zellerbach here on the Island at Campbell River to unload barges into the 1970's.

[selector]

Sorry. A 2-8-0 Consolidation...one of the most popular steam configurations ever. A great workhorse that was built ranging from smallish switchers to ones as large as heavy Mikado 2-8-2's.

The Kamloops Heritage RR, Kamloops, BC, has this rather purdy l'il filly.

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by selector

RailAmerica operates some diesels for tanker delivery around the mid-Island. I have only ever seen them once...passing through Nanaimo, natch. Why couldn't it have been a working Connie or something? [:o)]

What's a Connie?

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally this was posted by Mr. Murphy Siding, who lives in S.E.S.D.

Is there freight traffic on Vancouver Island? I thought I read it was just the *dayliner* thingy for train operations?

I thought you, your three boys, and the Fashionpolicewoman rode one of these *dayliner* thingies up in Duluth ?
(The cats stayed home ?)

We haven't ridden the RDC car in Duluth yet. We do always ride the train though. I see from the newsletter I get that they now have a former CNW bi-level commuter car to add to their consist.[:)]

[nanaimo73]

QUOTE: Originally this was posted by Mr. Murphy Siding, who lives in S.E.S.D.

Is there freight traffic on Vancouver Island? I thought I read it was just the *dayliner* thingy for train operations?

I thought you, your three boys, and the Fashionpolicewoman rode one of these *dayliner* thingies up in Duluth ?
(The cats stayed home ?)

[selector]

RailAmerica operates some diesels for tanker delivery around the mid-Island. I have only ever seen them once...passing through Nanaimo, natch. Why couldn't it have been a working Connie or something? [:o)]

[Murphy Siding]

Is there freight traffic on Vancouver Island? I thought I read it was just the *dayliner* thingy for train operations?

[nanaimo73]

QUOTE: Originally posted by samfp1943

Recently, I saw some links on the Alaska Railroad website: The were in reference to studies of extentions of the AKRR ,to tie in with a Canadian partner and open a land link to Alaska via rail.. I am wondering if there is any serious consideration on the Canadian side for this to happen? One of the studies linked on the AK RR site was a study by CN.. It would seem that if this happened it would create a real bonanza in traffic for carriers involved.

I can't see the line being built from Fort Nelson to the Alaskan border with Canadian money. A $5 billion natural gas pipeline is planned for the MacKenzie Valley and a $10 billion natural gas pipeline is going to be built along the Alaska Highway.
$100 billion is laid out for various projects in the Alberta Tar Sands.
I can't see American or Alaskan taxpayers paying for a railway in Canada.
The railway makes sense, but there is no one to pay for it.

[samfp1943]

Recently, I saw some links on the Alaska Railroad website: The were in reference to studies of extentions of the AKRR ,to tie in with a Canadian partner and open a land link to Alaska via rail.. I am wondering if there is any serious consideration on the Canadian side for this to happen? One of the studies linked on the AK RR site was a study by CN.. It would seem that if this happened it would create a real bonanza in traffic for carriers involved.

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mhurley87f

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by mhurley87f

Single Line Tokens / Train Staffs

Did any Canadian Railway adopt the practice of controlling Single Line working by interlocking signals and points, and the issue of Single Line Tokens to trains authorised to enter a single line section?

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Wow! There's that language comprehension thing again, except in stereo![;)] Could a Canadian or a Brit please explain this to this dumb American? Thanks

I don't know the details but I did see it on the telly[;)] once being used in India. It is explained in one of my 150+ Branchline magazines and I've started looking for it. It was indeed used by the CPR to cross the Ottawa River.
A member of the crew would take this baton thing out of a box on one end of the bridge and carry it over to the other side onboard the train. All signals would read stop until the staff was placed in the box on the other side. CP did use it at several places across Canada.
http://www.railways.incanada.net/circle/findings8.html

Boy did that link get confusing in a hurry![sigh] I guess I understand the concept, but man is that weird![:)]

Dear M.S. (and Others),

Sorry to have unwittingly baffled some of you with my enquiry, perhaps Cogload would be best placed to explain the workings in question.

Regards,

Certainly, no need to apologize. I enjoy learning about new things. For someone like me, though, the link might well have been written in another language, as it went right over my head. I keep meaning to ask Cogload to explain what a signalman does.[:)]

Thanks