Morons

[Murphy Siding]

A similar conversation came up at our house tonight about plasma and uranium. It stopped me in my tracks, because it was my 7 year old doing the explanation![:O] Upon some discussion, it turns out his information is in reference to a Star Wars movie.[alien] It makes me wonder what your point of reference might be?[;)]


"May the farce be with you Luke Skywalker" <<<my son's name is Luke!

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098
C&D also seems very likely. Those sabots create a vacumn behind them, they also move so fast plasma forms ont the front of the round it vaproizes armor as it hits. I saw a video where three guys are hidding behind a corner. The tank fires a sabot round down the road not even at these guys. Well, they get sucked right out onto the street in front of the tank, their Gihad ended real quick too.

Wow, the weapons engineers at Picatinny****nal would be surprised to know this.

Is that plasma in front of the tungsten steel or DU penetrator?

Yeah....ummm.....not exactly what happens....the vacuum you describe happens after it pentetrates a vehicle's skin, provided it's enclosed (tank, AFV, etc..)

It is made of depleated uranium, the plasma forms because of the rounds extreemly high velocity creates friction with the air, on the tip of the round. By vacumn I mean it pulls a huge amount of air behind it, not a techinacal vacumn. Now if you really want to stop people you use HEP.

I'm going to have to side with Tom on this issue.........by the way...when you start talking about munitions...and a guy says something like ...I'll talk to the guys at work...down at Picatinny....I'd stop there, when he says what I'm saying is incorrect......that would be kind of like arguing the GCOR with professional railroaders, and legal issues with lawyers..

..oh wait..that's been done too......

Dan

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098
C&D also seems very likely. Those sabots create a vacumn behind them, they also move so fast plasma forms ont the front of the round it vaproizes armor as it hits. I saw a video where three guys are hidding behind a corner. The tank fires a sabot round down the road not even at these guys. Well, they get sucked right out onto the street in front of the tank, their Gihad ended real quick too.

Wow, the weapons engineers at Picatinny****nal would be surprised to know this.

Is that plasma in front of the tungsten steel or DU penetrator?

Yeah....ummm.....not exactly what happens....the vacuum you describe happens after it pentetrates a vehicle's skin, provided it's enclosed (tank, AFV, etc..)

It is made of depleated uranium, the plasma forms because of the rounds extreemly high velocity creates friction with the air, on the tip of the round. By vacumn I mean it pulls a huge amount of air behind it, not a techinacal vacumn. Now if you really want to stop people you use HEP.

Using head end power will stop people from going around the gates?[;)] I did not know that.[:o)]

[TomDiehl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098
C&D also seems very likely. Those sabots create a vacumn behind them, they also move so fast plasma forms ont the front of the round it vaproizes armor as it hits. I saw a video where three guys are hidding behind a corner. The tank fires a sabot round down the road not even at these guys. Well, they get sucked right out onto the street in front of the tank, their Gihad ended real quick too.

Wow, the weapons engineers at Picatinny****nal would be surprised to know this.

Is that plasma in front of the tungsten steel or DU penetrator?

Yeah....ummm.....not exactly what happens....the vacuum you describe happens after it pentetrates a vehicle's skin, provided it's enclosed (tank, AFV, etc..)

It is made of depleated uranium, the plasma forms because of the rounds extreemly high velocity creates friction with the air, on the tip of the round. By vacumn I mean it pulls a huge amount of air behind it, not a techinacal vacumn. Now if you really want to stop people you use HEP.

LMFAO. Your lack of knowledge of artillery is downright laughable. This is my line of work.

It's better to sit there quietly and have people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098
C&D also seems very likely. Those sabots create a vacumn behind them, they also move so fast plasma forms ont the front of the round it vaproizes armor as it hits. I saw a video where three guys are hidding behind a corner. The tank fires a sabot round down the road not even at these guys. Well, they get sucked right out onto the street in front of the tank, their Gihad ended real quick too.

Wow, the weapons engineers at Picatinny****nal would be surprised to know this.

Is that plasma in front of the tungsten steel or DU penetrator?

Yeah....ummm.....not exactly what happens....the vacuum you describe happens after it pentetrates a vehicle's skin, provided it's enclosed (tank, AFV, etc..)

It is made of depleated uranium, the plasma forms because of the rounds extreemly high velocity creates friction with the air, on the tip of the round. By vacumn I mean it pulls a huge amount of air behind it, not a techinacal vacumn. Now if you really want to stop people you use HEP.

[canazar]

Well, its nice to hear that the police are trying to crack down on bozos. The camera is nice touch too... Kinda hard to argue that one with the Judge

[Kurn]

I had a load to WV today and didn't hear the final tally.On a related note, at several CSX crossings in the area,there are traffic signals fairly close to the tracks.So what do these mental giants do? Well,they stop on the tracks,of course!

[Anonymous]

Too bad the morons did not get run over by the trains and earn themselves a Darwin award for stupid ways to take yourself out of the gene pool.

Ira

[mackb4]

We as railroad employees can't hardly make a case for suing over a crossing accident.I've been involved in several crossings accident's,one fatal,one not fatal,one with a sheriff's car stuck on the track,and one right now (thats in court can't elaborate)that indirectly involved my train.I''ve personally been sued(attempted)and been named in law suits.But I have only once heard of an engineer suing and winning over mental stress due to a crossing accident.And that happened in upper Ohio.Sometimes to be honest at certain times of days it's like playing dodge ball at crossings.

[TomDiehl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098
C&D also seems very likely. Those sabots create a vacumn behind them, they also move so fast plasma forms ont the front of the round it vaproizes armor as it hits. I saw a video where three guys are hidding behind a corner. The tank fires a sabot round down the road not even at these guys. Well, they get sucked right out onto the street in front of the tank, their Gihad ended real quick too.

Wow, the weapons engineers at Picatinny****nal would be surprised to know this.

Is that plasma in front of the tungsten steel or DU penetrator?

Yeah....ummm.....not exactly what happens....the vacuum you describe happens after it pentetrates a vehicle's skin, provided it's enclosed (tank, AFV, etc..)

Yeah, the guys here at Picatinny got a GREAT laugh out of that one. Especially the "plasma" part.

I didn't even want to mention him confusing SABO and sabot. (not the same thing)

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murray

QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

a $75 dollar fine isn't gonna do much to deter people from doing that. i refuse to wear my seatbelt and for that i've been issued 5 tickets over the past couple years now that it's a "primary offense" and another bullshiiit reason for a cop to pull you over.

Sorry, but not wearing a seatbelt is beyond stupid.

[#ditto]
I've seen Police video of a stolen SUV with 3 idiots in it loose control and roll, all three were ejected from the vehicle, each thru a different window, 1 dead, 2 in the hospital.

Also seen where a guy , not buckled, was in an accident where the impact thru him clear into the back of the SUV, he bounced off just about every side inside the SUV, they could tell that from the blood marks.

Ever hear of the Catapult Syndrome? Thats where in an accident the driver or passenger not buckled in, is catapulted straight thru the windsheild and onto the road, often if theirs not enough force for a full projectile launch, the person will only go thru head first as is only the headgoing thru the glass allowing the glass to essentially garrot the person like a guillotenne.

Buckle up! Swallow that pride if for no other reason that for your family! [V]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by TomDiehl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098
C&D also seems very likely. Those sabots create a vacumn behind them, they also move so fast plasma forms ont the front of the round it vaproizes armor as it hits. I saw a video where three guys are hidding behind a corner. The tank fires a sabot round down the road not even at these guys. Well, they get sucked right out onto the street in front of the tank, their Gihad ended real quick too.

Wow, the weapons engineers at Picatinny****nal would be surprised to know this.

Is that plasma in front of the tungsten steel or DU penetrator?

Yeah....ummm.....not exactly what happens....the vacuum you describe happens after it pentetrates a vehicle's skin, provided it's enclosed (tank, AFV, etc..)

[wctransfer]

``If you are walking with your back to the train, you may not hear it.''

And your smoking what????? I hate it when stupid reporters ( or anyone ) pretend they know stuff about trains. Just like the BNSF story , " OMFG, IT WAS LEFT RUNNING, WE ARE GONNA DIE "

Alec

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

a $75 dollar fine isn't gonna do much to deter people from doing that. i refuse to wear my seatbelt and for that i've been issued 5 tickets over the past couple years now that it's a "primary offense" and another bullshiiit reason for a cop to pull you over.

Sorry, but not wearing a seatbelt is beyond stupid.

[markpierce]

And what about the poor train driver? Shouldn't the victim's estate be sued for mental health sessions, employee time off and suffering. And what about the railrioad collecting damages for out-of-pocket costs such as locomotive repainting and more?

[TomDiehl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098
C&D also seems very likely. Those sabots create a vacumn behind them, they also move so fast plasma forms ont the front of the round it vaproizes armor as it hits. I saw a video where three guys are hidding behind a corner. The tank fires a sabot round down the road not even at these guys. Well, they get sucked right out onto the street in front of the tank, their Gihad ended real quick too.

Wow, the weapons engineers at Picatinny****nal would be surprised to know this.

Is that plasma in front of the tungsten steel or DU penetrator?

[Anonymous]

The fine of the ticket isn't all that they have to pay. Thier car insurance will go up![^]

[chad thomas]

While I can sympathise for the innocent passengers, I will not loose any sleep over a MORON that gets killed trying to beat the train. I say bring back the cow catchers so they don't cause the trains to derail and let it be. It is natural selection at it's finest.

[Anonymous]

Here's the article from todays Akron Beacon journal;

Posted on Fri, Oct. 21, 2005

R E L A T E D C O N T E N T

Ken Love/Akron Beacon Journal
Rick McPherson of the Akron Police Department monitors traffic at a crossing on West Market Street from a Wheeling & Lake Erie Railway train as part of Operation Lifesaver.


R E L A T E D L I N K S
• 5 killed, 18 hurt in Ohio





Whistle blown on rail violators

Operation Lifesaver program sounds warning on crossing dangers; police issue 11 citations

By Jim Carney

Beacon Journal staff writer


The engineer sounded his whistle as his train approached a crossing on West Market Street on Thursday. Six vehicles still drove across the tracks.

``It's like follow the leader,'' said State Highway Patrol Sgt. Leo Shirkey, on board with other law enforcement officers to highlight the problem. ``One goes through and they all go through.''

Akron police were waiting there and at nine of the city's other crossings as part of an Operation Lifesaver program to publicize the need for safety at crossings.

The Wheeling & Lake Erie Railway train went through 10 crossings from East Akron to Copley Township and the same 10 crossings on the way back. Akron police officers observed 13 violations and issued 11 citations, Lt. Rick Edwards said.

``It was frightening,'' he said, watching cars cross the tracks illegally.

A total of 36 vehicle crossing violations were observed as the train, operated in conjunction with the Orrville Railroad Heritage Society, made its way across the area, said Sheldon Senek, state coordinator of the nonprofit Ohio Operation Lifesaver.

Police issued 24 citations, counting the 11 in Akron, he said.

Officials also saw one pedestrian cross the tracks illegally.

``The big problem is pedestrian trespass, and that is rapidly increasing in Ohio and across the nation,'' said Senek, a retired assistant superintendent of the State Highway Patrol.

``If you are walking with your back to the train, you may not hear it.''

A TV camera was mounted on the engine of the train, allowing passengers to watch cars cross illegally.

Senek said it is difficult to stop a moving freight train quickly. One with 100 cars needs a mile or more to stop.

``Engineers are required to blow whistles 1,320 feet from the crossing,'' he said.

A few years ago in a rural area in Central Ohio, he said, ``an entire family was extinguished'' when parents and three children were killed in an accident.

Every two hours in the United States, he said, there is an accident between either a train and a vehicle or a train and a pedestrian.

``You need to be very cautious in how you approach a crossing,'' he said. ``Look and listen so you can live to go across that crossing.''

[spbed]

They should triple the fines if caught by a tropper riding in a cab [:D][:D]

Originally posted by Kurn
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