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QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan As far as enforcing laws and not knowing where to put prisoners including current prisoners from destroyed prisons, pretend it is war time. What do you do with a whole bunch of POWs during war? Answer; build stockades. There is a whole bunch of fields and stuff that are empty in the surrounding states even that could be set up with tent cities for the refugees, mobile hospitals and MASH units for the wounded and sick and POW camp style stockages/bases. Build some facilities for transloading supplies and repairing/refueling choppers as needed. Ask folk in surrounding states to temperarly donate there boats if they have them and move them to New Orleans so authorities can have a means other than helicopter to evacuate the stranded on their roofs and attics. I really don't understand why they can't figure this out. It's not friggen rocket science. Too bad your talents are being wasted here.....since you seem to know exactly what to do sitting in your comfy home on the computer. Grow up Andrew. Excuse me? I have grown up; and I care. I think it you have one hell of a nerve to flame me just because I am getting emotional about people dying. This is an emotional situation and when it comes to watching grown men crying because they have lost loved ones, I make no apologies for getting upset because it is upsetting. I don't know what you see Dan but I see people in a living hell and I know I can't do anything about it. I don't think you should be making those kind of comments about members when this is a dicussable topic on an open forum. This is me venting my stress in a healthy way and hoping maybe I am giving some helpful ideas whoever is watching. Andrew...I've seen alot worse than this and up close and in person....yeah really.....all the sage advice you keep doling out ain't helping anyone....."someone needs to, and they shoulda done that, and how could they do this".....If I was as half as smart now as I was when I was your age...we'd have no wars, free beer, people would live forever and have all the sex we wanted....but alas I digress.....sometimes you need to engage brain before keyboard.....The folks there are doing the best they can. You honestly..unless you have see something like this before....a hurricane, plane crash, mass grave, destroyed city..in person....and I mean in person smelling it...cannot grasp the severity and awe of it. So just give it a rest. Dan
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan As far as enforcing laws and not knowing where to put prisoners including current prisoners from destroyed prisons, pretend it is war time. What do you do with a whole bunch of POWs during war? Answer; build stockades. There is a whole bunch of fields and stuff that are empty in the surrounding states even that could be set up with tent cities for the refugees, mobile hospitals and MASH units for the wounded and sick and POW camp style stockages/bases. Build some facilities for transloading supplies and repairing/refueling choppers as needed. Ask folk in surrounding states to temperarly donate there boats if they have them and move them to New Orleans so authorities can have a means other than helicopter to evacuate the stranded on their roofs and attics. I really don't understand why they can't figure this out. It's not friggen rocket science. Too bad your talents are being wasted here.....since you seem to know exactly what to do sitting in your comfy home on the computer. Grow up Andrew. Excuse me? I have grown up; and I care. I think it you have one hell of a nerve to flame me just because I am getting emotional about people dying. This is an emotional situation and when it comes to watching grown men crying because they have lost loved ones, I make no apologies for getting upset because it is upsetting. I don't know what you see Dan but I see people in a living hell and I know I can't do anything about it. I don't think you should be making those kind of comments about members when this is a dicussable topic on an open forum. This is me venting my stress in a healthy way and hoping maybe I am giving some helpful ideas whoever is watching.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan As far as enforcing laws and not knowing where to put prisoners including current prisoners from destroyed prisons, pretend it is war time. What do you do with a whole bunch of POWs during war? Answer; build stockades. There is a whole bunch of fields and stuff that are empty in the surrounding states even that could be set up with tent cities for the refugees, mobile hospitals and MASH units for the wounded and sick and POW camp style stockages/bases. Build some facilities for transloading supplies and repairing/refueling choppers as needed. Ask folk in surrounding states to temperarly donate there boats if they have them and move them to New Orleans so authorities can have a means other than helicopter to evacuate the stranded on their roofs and attics. I really don't understand why they can't figure this out. It's not friggen rocket science. Too bad your talents are being wasted here.....since you seem to know exactly what to do sitting in your comfy home on the computer. Grow up Andrew.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan As far as enforcing laws and not knowing where to put prisoners including current prisoners from destroyed prisons, pretend it is war time. What do you do with a whole bunch of POWs during war? Answer; build stockades. There is a whole bunch of fields and stuff that are empty in the surrounding states even that could be set up with tent cities for the refugees, mobile hospitals and MASH units for the wounded and sick and POW camp style stockages/bases. Build some facilities for transloading supplies and repairing/refueling choppers as needed. Ask folk in surrounding states to temperarly donate there boats if they have them and move them to New Orleans so authorities can have a means other than helicopter to evacuate the stranded on their roofs and attics. I really don't understand why they can't figure this out. It's not friggen rocket science.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear Those interested may also wi***o look at the Railinc (AAR) embargo page at www.embargo.railinc.com. This shows all the filed railroad embargoes including those for Hurricane katrina related matters. LC
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QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan As far as enforcing laws and not knowing where to put prisoners including current prisoners from destroyed prisons, pretend it is war time. What do you do with a whole bunch of POWs during war? Answer; build stockades. There is a whole bunch of fields and stuff that are empty in the surrounding states even that could be set up with tent cities for the refugees, mobile hospitals and MASH units for the wounded and sick and POW camp style stockages/bases. Build some facilities for transloading supplies and repairing/refueling choppers as needed. Ask folk in surrounding states to temperarly donate there boats if they have them and move them to New Orleans so authorities can have a means other than helicopter to evacuate the stranded on their roofs and attics. I really don't understand why they can't figure this out. It's not friggen rocket science. All the survivors that cannot find refuge with friends or relatives will all likely end up in tent cities, why they are sending people to the Astrodome is beyond stupid to me, what are they suppose to do sleep in the grandstands for the next 2 months? Shear lunacy! They need tents, portapotties, mobile kitchens, and mobile hospitals immediatly. i dont see anything being set up, and I fear most of the Nat Guard units equipement like this has been shipped off to Iraq, thats called Planning! Its taken three days to even mobilize the Nat Guard. Someone's really dropping the ball here... Easy Vic. The folks are doing the best they can and it takes time to get it together. It doesn't just materialize. If you prestage all the stuff where you think it's going to hit, then you just lost those supplies. Power is out, comms down. Let them try to get some work done before everyone blasts them......how bout instaed blasting a city government, on the Gulf coast, that never really prepared for a hurricane.....relied on antiquated, and ill-planned barriers against the sea.....direct the anger there, not at the folks trying to pick up the pieces..the NG units didn't play a part in that...
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan As far as enforcing laws and not knowing where to put prisoners including current prisoners from destroyed prisons, pretend it is war time. What do you do with a whole bunch of POWs during war? Answer; build stockades. There is a whole bunch of fields and stuff that are empty in the surrounding states even that could be set up with tent cities for the refugees, mobile hospitals and MASH units for the wounded and sick and POW camp style stockages/bases. Build some facilities for transloading supplies and repairing/refueling choppers as needed. Ask folk in surrounding states to temperarly donate there boats if they have them and move them to New Orleans so authorities can have a means other than helicopter to evacuate the stranded on their roofs and attics. I really don't understand why they can't figure this out. It's not friggen rocket science. All the survivors that cannot find refuge with friends or relatives will all likely end up in tent cities, why they are sending people to the Astrodome is beyond stupid to me, what are they suppose to do sleep in the grandstands for the next 2 months? Shear lunacy! They need tents, portapotties, mobile kitchens, and mobile hospitals immediatly. i dont see anything being set up, and I fear most of the Nat Guard units equipement like this has been shipped off to Iraq, thats called Planning! Its taken three days to even mobilize the Nat Guard. Someone's really dropping the ball here...
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QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005 I was watching Fox news, and they were running a video loop shot from a helicoptor. There was one shot passing over a small rail yard. There were only a few cars sitting on one track, in what looked like about 4 feet of water. As the camera panned along the line, the rails emerged from the water, exposing the ladder. It sounds as if the best rail access to New Orleans is going to be from the west, once the water is gone. My question is, what happens to loads in tranist that won't be able to be delivered to industries closed for perhaps months? Are they just held, or are they returned to the shipper? I understand the term embargo to mean that no new loads will be accepted for destinations within the effected area. If it's underliverable we'd always just call the shipper and ask what he/she wanted us to do.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005 I was watching Fox news, and they were running a video loop shot from a helicoptor. There was one shot passing over a small rail yard. There were only a few cars sitting on one track, in what looked like about 4 feet of water. As the camera panned along the line, the rails emerged from the water, exposing the ladder. It sounds as if the best rail access to New Orleans is going to be from the west, once the water is gone. My question is, what happens to loads in tranist that won't be able to be delivered to industries closed for perhaps months? Are they just held, or are they returned to the shipper? I understand the term embargo to mean that no new loads will be accepted for destinations within the effected area.
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