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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:06 PM
This wouldn’t happen to be the wonderful, Open Access System Mr. Sol touts in another thread?
You know the one that benefits all of us....
Works just like we though it would....


(edited, as Mr Sol was correct, he didnt say it was free, he did say the benifits were free)

Ed

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Posted by greyhounds on Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

Jay,

Don't laugh! Just a few years ago the State of Montana had a very nice two lane highway that ran up to Thompson Pass at the Idaho/Montana border. When you crossed over the border to Idaho, it basically turned into a narrow twisting logging road!

They've fixed up the Idaho side of the road since then.


It wasn't a joke.

Wisconsin had a plan to have a freeway between the Illinois state line near Richmond, IL and Madison. It would have been part of a freeway running off I-90 at Schaumburg, IL, which would have provided an excellent short route between northwest surburban Chicago and points in the southeast Wisconsin and beyond. The route 53 freeway ends 6 miles north of the origin point because the state of Illinois bowed to political pressure from Lake County, Illinois residents that did not want to loose their "rural" environment. The Wisconsin freeway segment runs from the state line to Elkhorn, WI. and serves three communities with populations of less than 10,000, plus the odd driver that wants to take the "scenic" route.

The joke is on the Lake County residents, as the population there has exploded. I have no sympathy for their complaints about traffic.


Well, I'm a Lake County resident (temporaily relocated to Florida) and that gap is a real PITA. You still see bumper stickers that say "Build 53". But I'll argue that it wouldn't have made any difference if it had been a Federal project.

The NIMBY's would still have at least tried to block it. Shoot Fire! There was a pipeline comming through to bring badly needed Canadian crude oil to the Chicago refineries and they tried to block that! A freaking underground pipeline that is out of sight and underneath everything. They fought that.

A real consequence of the failure to build the safer, grade seperated, limited access route is that people are put at risk traveling the outdated road system and energy is wasted in the congestion. It also causes people to travel longer routes to avoid the congestion, literally wasting gasoline at $2.69/gallon.

"By many measures, the U.S. freight rail system is the safest, most efficient and cost effective in the world." - Federal Railroad Administration, October, 2009. I'm just your average, everyday, uncivilized howling "anti-government" critic of mass government expenditures for "High Speed Rail" in the US. And I'm gosh darn proud of that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2005 6:33 AM
Originally posted by greyhounds

Well, I'm a Lake County resident (temporaily relocated to Florida) and that gap is a real PITA. You still see bumper stickers that say "Build 53". But I'll argue that it wouldn't have made any difference if it had been a Federal project.

The NIMBY's would still have at least tried to block it. Shoot Fire! There was a pipeline comming through to bring badly needed Canadian crude oil to the Chicago refineries and they tried to block that! A freaking underground pipeline that is out of sight and underneath everything. They fought that.

A real consequence of the failure to build the safer, grade seperated, limited access route is that people are put at risk traveling the outdated road system and energy is wasted in the congestion. It also causes people to travel longer routes to avoid the congestion, literally wasting gasoline at $2.69/gallon.

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That stretch of road should have been built 40 years ago. The story I've heard is it would go through Kemper National golf course and/or the back yards of some very important political supporters who live in Long Grove and Hawthorne Woods. Lately it's turning into a real Pork Barrel as more and more money is spent on upgrading/bypassing junctions with other raods while the towns along it continue building strip malls, each with 2 stop lights that change against the flow of traffic whever a bird flies by the sensors. The Wisconsin segment isn't completely isolated as it connects to the freeway that runs from Milwaukee to Beloit.
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Posted by MichaelSol on Monday, August 15, 2005 9:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

This wouldn’t happen to be the wonderful, Open Access System Mr. Sol touts in another thread?
You know the one that benefits all of us....
Works just like we though it would....
(edited, as Mr Sol was correct, he didnt say it was free, he did say the benifits were free)

I do not understand the point of misrepresenting someone's remarks in order to generate a sarcastic but utterly pointless remark. I did not say, anywhere, that the benefits of OA are free. It could not be clearer that the benefits are purchased by the users through a variety of specifically stated user fees.

You don't like the Interstate system?

How do you think the country would function without it?

Best regards, Michael Sol
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2005 10:17 PM
Cheer up, fellow Illinoisians! According to today's Chicago TRIBUNE, over four million dollars has been set aside for a feasibility study to determine whether it might be a good idea to "arcade over" the Eisenhower Expy (I-290).

No way the actual thing will ever be built, as it is ipso facto absurd and would cost a lot of money besides. But our conservative Republican Senator and our liberal Democratic Senator worked hard to BRING HOME THAT BACON!

(Now, double-decking the Ike--that might actually make sense! Assuming the New Madrid fault never slips....)

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