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Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 10:34 PM
Gabe, LC, CSX......LMAO.....

And might I add...

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon Virginian’s mountains green?
And was the Holy Lamb of Chessie
On C&O’s pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Dispatcher Divine
Shine forth upon our (Alco smoke) clouded hills?
And was mainline builded here
Among these dark (non CTC) territories?

Bring me my Baldwin of burning gold:
Bring me my Alco of desire:
Bring me my EMD: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my GE of fire.

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my reverser sleep in my hand
Till we have built reversing loop
In Tehachapi’s brown and rocky Land.


my sincerest apologies to William Blake
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 9:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033

LC,

I certainly enjoyed hearing your new title for me, lets see...".Traveling Minstrel of the Holier than Thou Religion of LABOR."

Great fun!

Yes, I have a big bias towards labor. LC great catch! You certainly marked my terriortory. No fooling anyone soon!

Jim


Jim -

ME, mark your territory, OH, NO. You do such a GREAT job of that all by yourself. Problem is everything is wet, and yellow after you pass, marking your territory, no wonder everybody is Pi**ed at you...

FOFLMAO...

LC

P.S. It's T-E-R-R-I-T-O-R-Y, not "terriortory". LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 9:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

bla bla...bla...bla bla bla bla....bla...bla.....bla bla bla..... who gives a ***..if you dont like something..dont read it...
csx engineer


Great read on the whole thing!

Jim
i wrote it in a form i knew you could understand
csx engineer


FOFLMAO...

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 9:30 PM
Whoo Whoo[:)]
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Posted by tatans on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 9:27 PM
48 responses to this extemely controversial subject already, and I'm sure there will be 500 more before this forum cools down, I'm not even going to read this forum it's too explosive a subject, on to train stuff.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 9:21 PM
Religious fanaticsm is a curse or all ages. It is a blight on something that is supposed to be a celebration of life and the "almighty" who I sincerely doubt excepts violence particularly in his name.

Al Quaida, Mary Tudor, Renaissance inquisitors of the Roman Catholic Church, John Knox, Kuresh (spelled it wrong), et al; they are all the same. They take everything out of context and completely too literal and twist it into some wierd hysterical crusade of mass ignorance, vanity, hatred and intollerance. Thease traites are closer to the that of Satan then of God if they actually studied their religious texts more carefully.

This current religious war between the U.S and the Middle East is a war that is really between a bunch of vain, arrogant and intrucive "Christian Elitists" of the West and the all hateful, ignorant, fanatic "Terrorist Scum" of the East. Both sides are a pox on civilization and would like to see them relocated to another planet so they can wipe themselves out and rid us decent folk of their destructive stupidity.

Religion and Politics are the biggest problem. The two of them are not compatible. They are as peaceful as paintshaker and a vile of Nitro. This whole thing of religion is that it has been missconstrued far too much and has held civilizations back too long. That is the main problem with the east. The biggest problem with the west is groups like those who go around to the third world countries and think that a flippin bible is going to fix their famine and pestilents even though man caused it.

Here is an interesting question for the religious folk. What is the purpose of God giving us free will if we are always praying that he give us a miracle?

We are our own selves and we are corporeal beings responsible for our own corporeal problems and our own corporeal solutions and neither God nor the Devil is really responsible for our own actions but ourselves. Sure there is the odd time where both entities make a guest appearance into our world but not all the time (physically speaking)

Religious fanatics are our own making and can be our own fixing if we stop them and shut them out. They have know place in a civilized 21st Century and I would suspect in a civilized after-life too.
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Posted by morseman on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 8:32 PM
To JIM SP9033

The simple point I was making re T&P literature was they
Mentioned Bible passages. The Subject matter of this
forum was religious fanatics. There were quite a few
postings pro and con re this posting and I just wanted to
co-relate how the two items in today's world can cause
such division and you sure took me to task for the remarks
I made. I did not mention my religious beliefs & it's not
important to you at this point in time and I'm sure you would
not be interested . Perhaps in a future forum I will take
time to espouse them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 8:23 PM
Ladies, Gentlemen, Railroaders, Railfans and members of the forum at large: There is an old saying that comes from the previous three centuries. Civil discourse (discussion) must by requirement remain civil. For the most part I must admit that this is a very civil forum to be as large as it is. There are occasions when the membership will rise up when something has gotten out of hand. In the Depot thread I have found some of the most delightfull reading that I have ever read and in the technical areas where the Clergy of the rails preaches the gospel of all matters in view worthy (for the most part) of hearing. Freedom is a treasure, most especially that of speech and assembly which are praticed well in these threads. It was James Madison, one of the authors of our federal constitution and its Bill of Rights that had an absolute belief in Freedom of Speech as well as Peacable Assembly, with some warning from his letters: Civil Discourse and Peacable Assembly are among the highest forms of civilization when practiced among men (read persons) of good will. I can speak now as to what I am getting at. It is very rare that I do not read a great civility in these threads and a great deal of respect and even honor among the participants. Let us then understand that we can read and hear contrary opinion, but have the good manners to know how to deal with it. sign me as Elder Piouslion (By the way Roy is one where he worships)
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Posted by rvos1979 on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 8:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by amtrak-tom

Ok, humor time:



Too late.....

Does this look like the work of a serious artist?

I have one word for you, Gabe.... RIOT!!!!!

ROFLMAO!!

Randy

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 8:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by amtrak-tom

Ok, humor time:

Guy dies and is met at the Pearly Gates ...


Very funny[:D][:D][:D]

Certainly glad to see this thread rise to the right level of seriousness.[swg]

Enjoy
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Posted by csxengineer98 on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

bla bla...bla...bla bla bla bla....bla...bla.....bla bla bla..... who gives a ***..if you dont like something..dont read it...
csx engineer


Great read on the whole thing!

Jim
i wrote it in a form i knew you could understand
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:56 PM
Ok, humor time:

Guy dies and is met at the Pearly Gates when St. Peter says:

Look, we've been getting a little over crowded up here, so, before I can let you in, you'll have to answer these 3 questions, take your time and have a seat over there and come back with your answers:

1) What days in the week begin with the letter "T"?

2) How many seconds are there in a year?

3) What is God's first name?

The new arrival takes awhile, but finally thinks he has all the answers, St. Peter says "Ok, lets have your answers".

The guy replies "Well, for question #1 the 2 days in the week that start with a T are Today and Tomorrow"

St. Peter says "well, that's not exactly the answer I was looking for, but, Ok"

The man continues "question #2, there are 12 seconds in a year". St. peter replies "12 seconds??!! How did you figure that one??" The man replies "well, there's January 2nd, February 2nd, March 2nd".
St. Peter replies "Ok, Ok, that wasn't what I was looking for, but, I get it".

St. Peter says "Ok, what answer did you come up with for question #3 - What is God's 1st name?"

The man replies "well, now, that was a tough one, and I thought and thought about it and then it finally hit me! God's 1st name is Andy".

St. Peter replies "Andy !!!!!!????" How did you come up with THAT for an answer???"

The man replies: "ohhhh, you know! It's in that song we used to sing in church. Andy walks with me, Andy talks with me....."
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

We will now sing that old Southern Pacific hymn,Up the hill slow,Down the hill fast
Tonnage first,and Safety last.


Amen.



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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:40 PM
Anyone out there who resent any mention of religion,"Santa Fe" is Spanish for "Holy Faith".Do you think we should never mention the Santa Fe Railway again?

We will now sing that old Southern Pacific hymn,Up the hill slow,Down the hill fast
Tonnage first,and Safety last. Amen.
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Posted by Hugh Jampton on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt

QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

The choir will now sing "Nearer my Geep, to thee." Feel free to join in.


And after we sing that, how about: "On a Hill Far Away, Stood an Old 2-8-4".


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

bla bla...bla...bla bla bla bla....bla...bla.....bla bla bla..... who gives a ***..if you dont like something..dont read it...
csx engineer


Great read on the whole thing!

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Posted by miniwyo on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:33 PM
Gabe, THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

RJ

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by morseman

When I was in my late teens, in the late 40's and 50's,
I used to receive the monthly news bulletin from the
Texas & Pacific Ry. The editor used to include in this
news letter several Bible verses, Biblical illustrations
etc. I looked forward to this mailing not only for news
of the T&P but also the Christian messages therein.
Today it would be politically incorrect to include such
items in any companies news letters.


The ROYAL "Traveling Minstrel of the Holier than Thou Religion of LABOR,"

Speaks to you!

In the south during that time period they used to hang darkies (***s), while at the same time quoting Christian messages from the Bible. So your point is what?

You can right any wrong as long as you're reading from the bible?

I absolutly believe in god, no-where does he say hang ***s. That is fact!

Jim



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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:15 PM
Well....there's religious fanatics, there's train fanatics, there's motorcycle fanatics, and fanatics over just about anything.
Aside from being a train fanatic, I'm a fanatical Atheist. I don't believe that religion is anything more than wishfull thinking, and a scam. (studied to be a Baptist missionary in my youth, turned me into an atheist)

Now before someone gets their nickers in a twist, it's my right as an American citizen to be fanatical about, or believe in, or disbelieve in, whatever the hell I like. Same goes for everyone else. I don't care for all the religious references seen in the signatures myself. I'm sure that there are many on the forum that don't care for mine, but they tolerate them. I tolerate theirs. That's one of the things that makes this country a fairly good place to live. If it gets to the point that I "can't" tolerate someone else's opinion, beliefs, or convictions, then it's time for me to leave, and find some where else to hang out. My recommendation for you is to do the same. Tolerance is a rare virtue.

I got a good chuckle from the holy rail road men post. At least people here have a sense of humour. lol
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Posted by csxengineer98 on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:11 PM
bla bla...bla...bla bla bla bla....bla...bla.....bla bla bla..... who gives a ***..if you dont like something..dont read it...
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Posted by Nora on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:11 PM
I AM one of those people who wants to take "In God We Trust" off of the currency, but sheesh, if you don't like what someone's signature says or that they made a religious reference in a post or whatever, just don't read it. I don't find the particular thread you mentioned to be interesting to me, so I just ignore it...not that difficult.
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Posted by locomutt on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

The choir will now sing "Nearer my Geep, to thee." Feel free to join in.


And after we sing that, how about: "On a Hill Far Away, Stood an Old 2-8-4".

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Posted by morseman on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:07 PM
When I was in my late teens, in the late 40's and 50's,
I used to receive the monthly news bulletin from the
Texas & Pacific Ry. The editor used to include in this
news letter several Bible verses, Biblical illustrations
etc. I looked forward to this mailing not only for news
of the T&P but also the Christian messages therein.
Today it would be politically incorrect to include such
items in any companies news letters.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:04 PM
So LimitedClear.

The ROYAL "Traveling Minstrel of the Holier than Thou Religion of LABOR,"

Speaks to you! Have you found factural errors within that link?

This is the link that I asked LC to pre-view:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:_ZZvFNvkCVIJ:home.flash.net/~lbartley/au/issues/godtrust.htm+IN+GOD+WE+TRUST&hl=en

LC, How about some side by side comparisons of the facts?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 6:54 PM
/\ ROFLMBO
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Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 6:52 PM
Nice Gabe. I was going to say don't get your shorts in a knot.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 6:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033

QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt

Are you one of these people who want to take "IN GOD WE TRUST" off our
money? Last time I looked, this is still a free country. You're entitled to have
whatever you want on your signature, and so are the rest of us!


No, I don't want to take anything away from you, But here is a fair history of "IN GOD WE TRUST." Please, if you find fault with the facts, speak up! This has nothing to do with the original post, its only a reponse to your statement.

Link::http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:_ZZvFNvkCVIJ:home.flash.net/~lbartley/au/issues/godtrust.htm+IN+GOD+WE+TRUST&hl=en

Jim



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Posted by greyhounds on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 6:37 PM
Gabe, your post was great (or Greyt as we dog folk say.) Funny, polite and thoughtful as all Hell.

I don't understand the problem some people have with religous references. If you believe, as I do, then they have meaning. If you do not believe, they're nothing. So why get upset about 'em?

And certainly no one should be censoring expressions of religious belief. It shapes the way people think, and understanding a Devine Belief is a key to understanding what a person is saying.

You know, "dog" is "god" spelled backwards. (the capitalization was left out intentionally.)

Excuse me, I've got to go perform a ritual now. Just kidding.

"By many measures, the U.S. freight rail system is the safest, most efficient and cost effective in the world." - Federal Railroad Administration, October, 2009. I'm just your average, everyday, uncivilized howling "anti-government" critic of mass government expenditures for "High Speed Rail" in the US. And I'm gosh darn proud of that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 6:35 PM
LC,

I certainly enjoyed hearing your new title for me, lets see...".Traveling Minstrel of the Holier than Thou Religion of LABOR."

Great fun!

Yes, I have a big bias towards labor. LC great catch! You certainly marked my terriortory. No fooling anyone soon!

Jim

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