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QUOTE: Originally posted by bobwilcox QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer There are two things that are really funny about SP9033s rant on the Wabuska local. First, the railroad is so dynamic I can promise you the reason for running a local at a certain hp on one day was gone the next. Second, the line to Wabuska has shipper that will move 50-75 car lots at infrequent times.
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H.
Originally posted by SP9033 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, April 25, 2005 12:51 PM Here is the chart for UPRR[:o)][:)] http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=UNP [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, April 25, 2005 12:46 PM Yes I have used that adage from time to time [:o)][:D] Originally posted by farmer03 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 25, 2005 9:00 AM as the saying goes....when you assume you make an a$$ out of you and me Reply Edit K. P. Harrier Member sinceOctober 2003 7,968 posts Posted by K. P. Harrier on Monday, April 25, 2005 8:22 AM The first quarter this year was a disaster for UP, with weather related washouts in numerous places closing lines for days. Personally, they did financially better than I had anticipated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- K.P.’s absolute “theorem” from early, early childhood that he has seen over and over and over again: Those that CAUSE a problem in the first place will act the most violently if questioned or exposed. Reply dwRavenstar Member sinceJanuary 2005 379 posts Posted by dwRavenstar on Monday, April 25, 2005 7:50 AM csxengineer, Well stated and right on the mark. Dave Wyland (dwRavenstar) If hard work could hurt us they'd put warning lables on tool boxes Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Monday, April 25, 2005 3:42 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. its one thing to toss and assumption out in the ring as a question for clarifcation or something that you know to the best of your knowlage.... its a whole other can of worms when you take your assumption and preach it from the rooftops like its the word of god himself...and that is what jim dose... and when he get corrnored the then resorts to spewing out politlal crap.... go back through the arcives to see this pattern of behavor over and over with him... no matter what you say he trys and turns it aginst you...or just comes out of left field with some off the wall crap about GW Bush..or the republican party....just take a look above where out of the blue he makes a comment about working for the admistration and something about the southern boarders? where the hell did that come from?and what the hell did that have to do with a local trains power or what time it got out of the yard? NOTHING but time and time agin when jim gets nailed...he restorts to spewing anything....the only thing it can think of is he has internet terets syndrom csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:48 PM csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:43 PM Obviously the board is going to have to do some auditing of departments and engage in some management reviews to see if they need to do some gene pool cleaning unemployement style. Andrew Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:58 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H. you have to love the arm chair railroaders.... never worked a day in the industry...or they know someone that is thier cousines sisters brothers nephews roomate that works for a railroad..and it dont even have to be the railroad in question they all of the sudden become experts on rail opporations...... jim....you say its 7 hours late...how do you know they just didnt move the timetable for the start time of the job in question..just becouse it was 7 hours sooner for a while donst mean its set in stone for ever..railroads will move start times on jobs when thier are issues such as a curfuew for MOW work zones or other issues that might couse a need for a time shift in the start of the job...... you just go off at the mouth complaining about something that you dont know the full truth about....and as far as the power... power is power... if its 12000 HP or 2000 HP..if the crew is told to use it..they will use it... think befor you speak old man csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:33 PM ...............No comment! BNSFrailfan. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:09 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H. My expectation of the Union Pacific railroad to do anything is zero. Right on, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and is colored like a duck, its not a duck at all. Have you considered a job with the current adminisration, they also have problems with observation. They say; there is no problem with the southern border... Jim Reply Edit dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:36 PM I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:06 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman How do you know the Reno local was "stolen" from a mainline train? How do you know the engine wasn't being set out by a mainline train for the local? The only way to get an engine to Reno is for a mainline train to take it there. Dave H. Well, when you see the Wabuska local heading east out of Sparks 6 or 7 hours late, with three units totaling over 12000 Horse Power with a light tonnage train what can you think. Is this now rocket science. The only Reno local now leaving on time from Sparks is BNSF's Fernley local... Jim Reply Edit dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:38 AM How do you know the Reno local was "stolen" from a mainline train? How do you know the engine wasn't being set out by a mainline train for the local? The only way to get an engine to Reno is for a mainline train to take it there. Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:14 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by BigJim But they sure know how to gouge a model railroader! Yes, that is sort of a true statement, the bean counters and attorneys certainly understand getting revenue from traditionally non revenue sources, but they sure don't have any idea of how to make a railroad work, even though they have some of the best folks in the industry! Jim Reply Edit BigJim Member sinceApril 2001 From: Roanoke, VA 2,019 posts Posted by BigJim on Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:00 AM QUOTE: Union Pacific is so insolated from operation, that management has no idea how to run the company But they sure know how to gouge a model railroader! . Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:39 AM The answer is really simple, management at Union Pacific is so insolated from operation, that management has no idea how to run the company, either during good times or bad times. Jim - Lawton, NV MP 236 As a side note, UP has some of the most dedicaded employees in the industry, and still they fail. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts More Excuses... Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:20 AM Well folks this Union Pacific's management has sat-in on three national meltdowns of the rail system in America these last 10 years. Subjectivly I'm now witnessing this company's in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages. At Reno (Sparks, NV) I've witnessed theft of power from mainline trains to cover locals. So, when trucking company's like Yellow/Roadway, seem not to be bothered by high fuel costs, why is this gaint of a railroad crying the blues... "Union Pacific 1Q profit tumbles (The Associated Press circulated the following article on April 21.) OMAHA, Neb. -- Railroad operator Union Pacific Corp. said Thursday that its first-quarter profit plunged 22 percent, due to higher fuel costs and severe weather along the West Coast that disrupted service in January. Quarterly income fell to $128 million, or 48 cents per share, from $165 million, or 63 cents, in the year-ago period. The company's earnings, however, hit the top end of a forecast from March and managed to top the average estimate of 47 cents per share from analysts polled by Thomson Financial. Operating revenue at the operator of the largest railroad in the U.S. totaled $3.15 billion, up 9 percent from $2.89 billion a year earlier. Revenue from commodity shipments was 8 percent higher at $3 billion on a 1 percent increase in overall volume and greater fuel surcharges, Union Pacific said. The company's average revenue also expanded by 8 percent to $1,306 per car from $1,214 the year before. In the latest quarter, fuel and utility expenses surged 39 percent to $539 million, Union Pacific said, adding that its average fuel price jumped to $1.45 per gallon from $1.02 per gallon in last year's quarter. "Demand for our services remains strong and our task is to leverage that strength into better bottom-line results," said *** Davidson, chairman and chief executive officer. Friday, April 22, 2005 bentley@ble.org Reply Edit 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by farmer03 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 25, 2005 9:00 AM as the saying goes....when you assume you make an a$$ out of you and me Reply Edit K. P. Harrier Member sinceOctober 2003 7,968 posts Posted by K. P. Harrier on Monday, April 25, 2005 8:22 AM The first quarter this year was a disaster for UP, with weather related washouts in numerous places closing lines for days. Personally, they did financially better than I had anticipated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- K.P.’s absolute “theorem” from early, early childhood that he has seen over and over and over again: Those that CAUSE a problem in the first place will act the most violently if questioned or exposed. Reply dwRavenstar Member sinceJanuary 2005 379 posts Posted by dwRavenstar on Monday, April 25, 2005 7:50 AM csxengineer, Well stated and right on the mark. Dave Wyland (dwRavenstar) If hard work could hurt us they'd put warning lables on tool boxes Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Monday, April 25, 2005 3:42 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. its one thing to toss and assumption out in the ring as a question for clarifcation or something that you know to the best of your knowlage.... its a whole other can of worms when you take your assumption and preach it from the rooftops like its the word of god himself...and that is what jim dose... and when he get corrnored the then resorts to spewing out politlal crap.... go back through the arcives to see this pattern of behavor over and over with him... no matter what you say he trys and turns it aginst you...or just comes out of left field with some off the wall crap about GW Bush..or the republican party....just take a look above where out of the blue he makes a comment about working for the admistration and something about the southern boarders? where the hell did that come from?and what the hell did that have to do with a local trains power or what time it got out of the yard? NOTHING but time and time agin when jim gets nailed...he restorts to spewing anything....the only thing it can think of is he has internet terets syndrom csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:48 PM csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:43 PM Obviously the board is going to have to do some auditing of departments and engage in some management reviews to see if they need to do some gene pool cleaning unemployement style. Andrew Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:58 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H. you have to love the arm chair railroaders.... never worked a day in the industry...or they know someone that is thier cousines sisters brothers nephews roomate that works for a railroad..and it dont even have to be the railroad in question they all of the sudden become experts on rail opporations...... jim....you say its 7 hours late...how do you know they just didnt move the timetable for the start time of the job in question..just becouse it was 7 hours sooner for a while donst mean its set in stone for ever..railroads will move start times on jobs when thier are issues such as a curfuew for MOW work zones or other issues that might couse a need for a time shift in the start of the job...... you just go off at the mouth complaining about something that you dont know the full truth about....and as far as the power... power is power... if its 12000 HP or 2000 HP..if the crew is told to use it..they will use it... think befor you speak old man csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:33 PM ...............No comment! BNSFrailfan. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:09 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H. My expectation of the Union Pacific railroad to do anything is zero. Right on, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and is colored like a duck, its not a duck at all. Have you considered a job with the current adminisration, they also have problems with observation. They say; there is no problem with the southern border... Jim Reply Edit dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:36 PM I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:06 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman How do you know the Reno local was "stolen" from a mainline train? How do you know the engine wasn't being set out by a mainline train for the local? The only way to get an engine to Reno is for a mainline train to take it there. Dave H. Well, when you see the Wabuska local heading east out of Sparks 6 or 7 hours late, with three units totaling over 12000 Horse Power with a light tonnage train what can you think. Is this now rocket science. The only Reno local now leaving on time from Sparks is BNSF's Fernley local... Jim Reply Edit dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:38 AM How do you know the Reno local was "stolen" from a mainline train? How do you know the engine wasn't being set out by a mainline train for the local? The only way to get an engine to Reno is for a mainline train to take it there. Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:14 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by BigJim But they sure know how to gouge a model railroader! Yes, that is sort of a true statement, the bean counters and attorneys certainly understand getting revenue from traditionally non revenue sources, but they sure don't have any idea of how to make a railroad work, even though they have some of the best folks in the industry! Jim Reply Edit BigJim Member sinceApril 2001 From: Roanoke, VA 2,019 posts Posted by BigJim on Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:00 AM QUOTE: Union Pacific is so insolated from operation, that management has no idea how to run the company But they sure know how to gouge a model railroader! . Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:39 AM The answer is really simple, management at Union Pacific is so insolated from operation, that management has no idea how to run the company, either during good times or bad times. Jim - Lawton, NV MP 236 As a side note, UP has some of the most dedicaded employees in the industry, and still they fail. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts More Excuses... Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:20 AM Well folks this Union Pacific's management has sat-in on three national meltdowns of the rail system in America these last 10 years. Subjectivly I'm now witnessing this company's in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages. At Reno (Sparks, NV) I've witnessed theft of power from mainline trains to cover locals. So, when trucking company's like Yellow/Roadway, seem not to be bothered by high fuel costs, why is this gaint of a railroad crying the blues... "Union Pacific 1Q profit tumbles (The Associated Press circulated the following article on April 21.) OMAHA, Neb. -- Railroad operator Union Pacific Corp. said Thursday that its first-quarter profit plunged 22 percent, due to higher fuel costs and severe weather along the West Coast that disrupted service in January. Quarterly income fell to $128 million, or 48 cents per share, from $165 million, or 63 cents, in the year-ago period. The company's earnings, however, hit the top end of a forecast from March and managed to top the average estimate of 47 cents per share from analysts polled by Thomson Financial. Operating revenue at the operator of the largest railroad in the U.S. totaled $3.15 billion, up 9 percent from $2.89 billion a year earlier. Revenue from commodity shipments was 8 percent higher at $3 billion on a 1 percent increase in overall volume and greater fuel surcharges, Union Pacific said. The company's average revenue also expanded by 8 percent to $1,306 per car from $1,214 the year before. In the latest quarter, fuel and utility expenses surged 39 percent to $539 million, Union Pacific said, adding that its average fuel price jumped to $1.45 per gallon from $1.02 per gallon in last year's quarter. "Demand for our services remains strong and our task is to leverage that strength into better bottom-line results," said *** Davidson, chairman and chief executive officer. Friday, April 22, 2005 bentley@ble.org Reply Edit 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- K.P.’s absolute “theorem” from early, early childhood that he has seen over and over and over again: Those that CAUSE a problem in the first place will act the most violently if questioned or exposed.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman How do you know the Reno local was "stolen" from a mainline train? How do you know the engine wasn't being set out by a mainline train for the local? The only way to get an engine to Reno is for a mainline train to take it there. Dave H.
QUOTE: Originally posted by BigJim But they sure know how to gouge a model railroader!
QUOTE: Union Pacific is so insolated from operation, that management has no idea how to run the company
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