QUOTE: Union Pacific is so insolated from operation, that management has no idea how to run the company
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QUOTE: Originally posted by BigJim But they sure know how to gouge a model railroader!
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QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman How do you know the Reno local was "stolen" from a mainline train? How do you know the engine wasn't being set out by a mainline train for the local? The only way to get an engine to Reno is for a mainline train to take it there. Dave H.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman I think your expectation is that the UP has "in-ablity to dispatch its Reno locals on time do to what appears to be power shortages" so if you see something you think that's "wrong" you assume its a failure. Regardless of whether it is or not its actually wrong or a failure. If you don't know what the plan is, how do you know if its off plan? Dave H.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- K.P.’s absolute “theorem” from early, early childhood that he has seen over and over and over again: Those that CAUSE a problem in the first place will act the most violently if questioned or exposed.
Originally posted by farmer03 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, April 25, 2005 12:51 PM Here is the chart for UPRR[:o)][:)] http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=UNP [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:15 PM Here is the BNSF chart. Looks quite like the UPRR one. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=BNI Originally posted by SP9033 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:06 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply bobwilcox Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Crozet, VA 1,049 posts Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:30 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer There are two things that are really funny about SP9033s rant on the Wabuska local. First, the railroad is so dynamic I can promise you the reason for running a local at a certain hp on one day was gone the next. Second, the line to Wabuska has shipper that will move 50-75 car lots at infrequent times. Bob Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:01 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by bobwilcox QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer There are two things that are really funny about SP9033s rant on the Wabuska local. First, the railroad is so dynamic I can promise you the reason for running a local at a certain hp on one day was gone the next. Second, the line to Wabuska has shipper that will move 50-75 car lots at infrequent times. i understand that..and do alot of othe people..and its not about trains or railroad opporations for SP9033.....jim has found an outlet to try and preach his from of how the world should be politices.... granted alot of us do it at some point or another in this forum...but jim dose it all the time... starts a thread..such as this one...only to draw people in...and then once it starts to get a some action..out comes the politica attacts and comments out of the blue...it turns from a rant about trains into a political forum in which he is the only one that is alowed to have an oppion and his oppion is the only one that matters...its not trains...its policits and pushing agendas for him and this forum....and frankly..myself and others are starting to get fed up with it...policits has a place in this forum at times..but not evey posting by the same individual.... csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:08 PM Ah, the Union Pacific Wabsuka local which operates out of Sparks, NV. This local has a call time of 7:00 am Monday - Saturday. It operates between Sparks NV and Hazen NV on Union Pacific's "Overland Route." at Hazen it works to Wabsuka, NV on what was the former SP Mina branch. However this local only works as far out on its route as needed. Many times it works only as far as Fernley. Up to about a year ago, power for this local was two GPs sometimes three, depending on train requirements. As I understand it, GPs for local work are in short supply, where possible the railroad is now using 6 axel units. The Wabuska local now gets it power from whatever mainline power that is in the yard. This unlike the Lovelock turn and Reno local which seem to get power allocated for these locals. The Lovelock turn gets GPs, the Reno local of late gets 6 axle power like SD40-2. BTW, if there is to be a Thorn job, it is called as an extra. Yes, a very few times, the wabuska local will have 50 cars, but it is not the norm and is rare, 75 cars maybe once a year. Yes, just when a person thinks he's got it figured out, something changes. To remain fluid a railroad and its line employee's both craft and management need to think outside the box. And of course, foreign locomotives always indicate a buy-out! Everyone knows that! It's sure easy to get some people out and pound hotly on their key boards. Jim - Lawton, NV MP236 Reply Edit dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:09 PM Case in point..... Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:03 AM wow jim..i am almost impressed...not even 1 politcal comment... but what is your point.... csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:48 AM The Wabuska Local has used the same 2 engines for almost two weeks. Hardly seems like getting its power from "whatever mainline power that is in the yard". Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:46 AM OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:28 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman The Wabuska Local has used the same 2 engines for almost two weeks. Hardly seems like getting its power from "whatever mainline power that is in the yard". Dave H. Last week it had two GE's and an EMD SD40-2 on two different days. BTW do you know the locals train id (alpha codes)? Sure would like to find them out. Jim Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim Reply Edit gabe Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Indianapolis, Indiana 2,434 posts Posted by gabe on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:42 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033 QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim No . . . You? Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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Originally posted by SP9033 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:06 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply bobwilcox Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Crozet, VA 1,049 posts Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:30 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer There are two things that are really funny about SP9033s rant on the Wabuska local. First, the railroad is so dynamic I can promise you the reason for running a local at a certain hp on one day was gone the next. Second, the line to Wabuska has shipper that will move 50-75 car lots at infrequent times. Bob Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:01 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by bobwilcox QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer There are two things that are really funny about SP9033s rant on the Wabuska local. First, the railroad is so dynamic I can promise you the reason for running a local at a certain hp on one day was gone the next. Second, the line to Wabuska has shipper that will move 50-75 car lots at infrequent times. i understand that..and do alot of othe people..and its not about trains or railroad opporations for SP9033.....jim has found an outlet to try and preach his from of how the world should be politices.... granted alot of us do it at some point or another in this forum...but jim dose it all the time... starts a thread..such as this one...only to draw people in...and then once it starts to get a some action..out comes the politica attacts and comments out of the blue...it turns from a rant about trains into a political forum in which he is the only one that is alowed to have an oppion and his oppion is the only one that matters...its not trains...its policits and pushing agendas for him and this forum....and frankly..myself and others are starting to get fed up with it...policits has a place in this forum at times..but not evey posting by the same individual.... csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:08 PM Ah, the Union Pacific Wabsuka local which operates out of Sparks, NV. This local has a call time of 7:00 am Monday - Saturday. It operates between Sparks NV and Hazen NV on Union Pacific's "Overland Route." at Hazen it works to Wabsuka, NV on what was the former SP Mina branch. However this local only works as far out on its route as needed. Many times it works only as far as Fernley. Up to about a year ago, power for this local was two GPs sometimes three, depending on train requirements. As I understand it, GPs for local work are in short supply, where possible the railroad is now using 6 axel units. The Wabuska local now gets it power from whatever mainline power that is in the yard. This unlike the Lovelock turn and Reno local which seem to get power allocated for these locals. The Lovelock turn gets GPs, the Reno local of late gets 6 axle power like SD40-2. BTW, if there is to be a Thorn job, it is called as an extra. Yes, a very few times, the wabuska local will have 50 cars, but it is not the norm and is rare, 75 cars maybe once a year. Yes, just when a person thinks he's got it figured out, something changes. To remain fluid a railroad and its line employee's both craft and management need to think outside the box. And of course, foreign locomotives always indicate a buy-out! Everyone knows that! It's sure easy to get some people out and pound hotly on their key boards. Jim - Lawton, NV MP236 Reply Edit dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:09 PM Case in point..... Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:03 AM wow jim..i am almost impressed...not even 1 politcal comment... but what is your point.... csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply dehusman Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Omaha, NE 10,621 posts Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:48 AM The Wabuska Local has used the same 2 engines for almost two weeks. Hardly seems like getting its power from "whatever mainline power that is in the yard". Dave H. Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:46 AM OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:28 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman The Wabuska Local has used the same 2 engines for almost two weeks. Hardly seems like getting its power from "whatever mainline power that is in the yard". Dave H. Last week it had two GE's and an EMD SD40-2 on two different days. BTW do you know the locals train id (alpha codes)? Sure would like to find them out. Jim Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim Reply Edit gabe Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Indianapolis, Indiana 2,434 posts Posted by gabe on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:42 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033 QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim No . . . You? Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer
QUOTE: Originally posted by bobwilcox QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman csx engineer, you are absolutely right, even though every one of Sp9033's assumptions about the Wabuska local he saw is wrong, it is so much easier to just spout the same old cliches' . Its like every railfan that sees a CSXT engine on the UP or a UP engine on the CSXT is sure its a certain sign of imminent merger or that somebody has "stolen" a unit. Dave H. lol... roger on the imminent merger consperisies...lol.....but with all the leased power and HP hour returns we have running around the csx system...im sure it driving the "merger" people compleatly insaine!!!....lol csx engineer There are two things that are really funny about SP9033s rant on the Wabuska local. First, the railroad is so dynamic I can promise you the reason for running a local at a certain hp on one day was gone the next. Second, the line to Wabuska has shipper that will move 50-75 car lots at infrequent times.
Originally posted by dehusman [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:28 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman The Wabuska Local has used the same 2 engines for almost two weeks. Hardly seems like getting its power from "whatever mainline power that is in the yard". Dave H. Last week it had two GE's and an EMD SD40-2 on two different days. BTW do you know the locals train id (alpha codes)? Sure would like to find them out. Jim Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim Reply Edit gabe Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Indianapolis, Indiana 2,434 posts Posted by gabe on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:42 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033 QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim No . . . You? Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman The Wabuska Local has used the same 2 engines for almost two weeks. Hardly seems like getting its power from "whatever mainline power that is in the yard". Dave H.
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim Reply Edit gabe Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Indianapolis, Indiana 2,434 posts Posted by gabe on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:42 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033 QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim No . . . You? Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by SP9033 QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim No . . . You? Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed OK then why did SP9033 post what he posted? Just wanted to ba***he UPRR because they took over the SPRR? [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by dehusman [ Yes, It is alittle of that, but mostly its just stirring the pot. Jim
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