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QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar ...Yes, the eastern side of the grade up the Allegheny's...From Altoona to Summit. I.8% avg. grade.....Horseshoe curve and at one time 4-tracks wide and ROW still that width...and now 3-tracks. Don't know the count of traffic now in 24 hr. period but it is substantial....Tunnels at the summit to get under the last few hundred ft. of mountain. Ex. Pennsylvania's Broadway route and now NS.
Originally posted by apusztai [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:52 AM ...Old Timer: How may tracks is {was}, the area of N&W through the Allegheny's you relate in your above post....? Quentin Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:34 AM Glorietta Hill (and you get Raton, Apache Canyon & Mora's Canyons as part of the bargain) [:D][:D][:D] Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:11 AM Sand Patch, Sand Patch, Sand Patch!! Reply wallyworld Member sinceJuly 2002 From: A State of Humidity 2,441 posts Posted by wallyworld on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:38 AM Saluda NC..the steepest in the U.S. One of my favorite videos is "611 Redux" which documents N&W 611 battle against this grade both up and down. Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has. Reply kevarc Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Richland WA 361 posts Posted by kevarc on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:44 AM Iager to Bluefield WV. Sandpatch is next Kevin Arceneaux Mining Engineer, Penn State 1979 Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:09 PM In another thread (Madison) it was posted that Madison @ 5.89% is steeper then Saluda @ 4.8% I think [8D][:o)] Originally posted by wallyworld [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply miniwyo Member sinceJanuary 2003 From: Rock Springs Wy. 1,967 posts Posted by miniwyo on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:30 PM Well, If it can be considered a mountian grade, Sherman Hill RJ "Something hidden, Go and find it. Go and look behind the ranges, Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go." The Explorers - Rudyard Kipling http://sweetwater-photography.com/ Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:51 PM ...I believe the Madison grade was {is}, not considered a main line and Saluda was hence the "steepest main line grade"...etc.... Quentin Reply edbenton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Back home on the Chi to KC racetrack 2,011 posts Posted by edbenton on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:31 PM I would have to say Donner Pass. NIcew long upgrade out of the world sencery and about the only place you can see rotary plows run every year tring to keep it clear. Always at war with those that think OTR trucking is EASY. Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:50 PM Donner would also be on my top 10, but not #1 Actually its a rare event when the rotaries are called (even on donner). Sometimes many years pass between rotary use. The reason is they are very expensive to operate and once they use them they are commited to using them exclusivly the rest of the season. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:02 PM Give me the chance to see two SP cosolidations hearding a 40 car emtpy log car train up the 2.2% grade of the Susan River Canyon to Westwood junction and an interchange with the Fruit Growers Supply Company's railroad. Now that would be heaven. Or would it be seeing a Red River Lumber Company 4 Truck Shay waiting for orders at Mason with a 25 car empty move.? Gosh, so may choices! Jim Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:12 PM off topic...i'm pretty sure i'm alone here, but i'm not a big fan of grades. i'd much rather be standing trackside watching a BNSF intermodal train doing 70mph through central Illinois... Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:20 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03 off topic...i'm pretty sure i'm alone here, but i'm not a big fan of grades. i'd much rather be standing trackside watching a BNSF intermodal train doing 70mph through central Illinois... Hey farmer03, There's nothing wrong with seeing stuff move by fast! But it is kind of funny, sort of anti-grade, anti-hill, anti-mountain and anti-climb!<G>If fast trains running through the flat lands trips your trigger, more power to you brother! Jim Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:16 PM I would have to say Horseshoe Curve- It seems that all the small towns between Altoona and Johnstown have some sort of train park for taking photos. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:37 PM There are too many really to pick one. Stampede pass, Tennessee pass, Cajon they are all good. If I had to pick one though, it would be The Horseshoe curve which includes the Gallitzin tunnel nearby. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:33 PM #1 East side of Alpine, Last 3 miles to the tunnel #2Tennessee from Minturn to the top Reply Edit 1234 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has.
Originally posted by wallyworld [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply miniwyo Member sinceJanuary 2003 From: Rock Springs Wy. 1,967 posts Posted by miniwyo on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:30 PM Well, If it can be considered a mountian grade, Sherman Hill RJ "Something hidden, Go and find it. Go and look behind the ranges, Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go." The Explorers - Rudyard Kipling http://sweetwater-photography.com/ Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:51 PM ...I believe the Madison grade was {is}, not considered a main line and Saluda was hence the "steepest main line grade"...etc.... Quentin Reply edbenton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Back home on the Chi to KC racetrack 2,011 posts Posted by edbenton on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:31 PM I would have to say Donner Pass. NIcew long upgrade out of the world sencery and about the only place you can see rotary plows run every year tring to keep it clear. Always at war with those that think OTR trucking is EASY. Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:50 PM Donner would also be on my top 10, but not #1 Actually its a rare event when the rotaries are called (even on donner). Sometimes many years pass between rotary use. The reason is they are very expensive to operate and once they use them they are commited to using them exclusivly the rest of the season. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:02 PM Give me the chance to see two SP cosolidations hearding a 40 car emtpy log car train up the 2.2% grade of the Susan River Canyon to Westwood junction and an interchange with the Fruit Growers Supply Company's railroad. Now that would be heaven. Or would it be seeing a Red River Lumber Company 4 Truck Shay waiting for orders at Mason with a 25 car empty move.? Gosh, so may choices! Jim Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:12 PM off topic...i'm pretty sure i'm alone here, but i'm not a big fan of grades. i'd much rather be standing trackside watching a BNSF intermodal train doing 70mph through central Illinois... Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:20 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03 off topic...i'm pretty sure i'm alone here, but i'm not a big fan of grades. i'd much rather be standing trackside watching a BNSF intermodal train doing 70mph through central Illinois... Hey farmer03, There's nothing wrong with seeing stuff move by fast! But it is kind of funny, sort of anti-grade, anti-hill, anti-mountain and anti-climb!<G>If fast trains running through the flat lands trips your trigger, more power to you brother! Jim Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:16 PM I would have to say Horseshoe Curve- It seems that all the small towns between Altoona and Johnstown have some sort of train park for taking photos. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:37 PM There are too many really to pick one. Stampede pass, Tennessee pass, Cajon they are all good. If I had to pick one though, it would be The Horseshoe curve which includes the Gallitzin tunnel nearby. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:33 PM #1 East side of Alpine, Last 3 miles to the tunnel #2Tennessee from Minturn to the top Reply Edit 1234 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03 off topic...i'm pretty sure i'm alone here, but i'm not a big fan of grades. i'd much rather be standing trackside watching a BNSF intermodal train doing 70mph through central Illinois...
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