Perry BabinI ask a simple question and I'm accused of wanting to kill people and of being a racist. What's arrogant about asking follow-up questions. I understand... go away. Done. I tried to cancel my account and got a 404 error.
What's arrogant about asking follow-up questions.
I understand... go away. Done.
I tried to cancel my account and got a 404 error.
You don't accept the answers that were developed in the blood of many casualties over the years. Railroad rules are created out of the blood spilled in situations that the rules were developed, written and implemented to prevent occurring in the future.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
I ask a simple question and I'm accused of wanting to kill people and of being a racist.
Perry BabinWhy do you think I want anyone to be killed. Are you saying that, if tampering became a more common problem that the railroad couldn't have a small vehicle working as a team member with an engineer in a locomotive? I'm not talking about a weed sprayer or a MoW tamper on the track. A dedicated vehicle capable of keeping its distance from the train, in constant communication with the engineer (where necessary) and that the train's engineer is aware of (a mile or more ahead) to check the track. The report said that the train actually did derail but managed to realign with the trak. This was an Amtrak train. What he was doing was so simple that a 10yo could do it. If you're telling me that having the track pre-run by a vehicle is idiotic, sobeit but I'd like to see someone put forth a solution that could prevent derailments from tampering. This is only going to get worse.
I'm not talking about a weed sprayer or a MoW tamper on the track. A dedicated vehicle capable of keeping its distance from the train, in constant communication with the engineer (where necessary) and that the train's engineer is aware of (a mile or more ahead) to check the track.
The report said that the train actually did derail but managed to realign with the trak. This was an Amtrak train.
What he was doing was so simple that a 10yo could do it.
If you're telling me that having the track pre-run by a vehicle is idiotic, sobeit but I'd like to see someone put forth a solution that could prevent derailments from tampering. This is only going to get worse.
Your lack of railroad understanding is exceeded only by your arrogance.
It was actually a fox story that was on the MSN website. The guy's name (who was arrested) was Cleveland man Joseph Findley, 43.
Are you trying to make me seem like a racist? I'm not saying that everyone coming over the border illegally is a terrorist but there have been many on the FBI's terror watch list caught and I'm sure many more got through. Cleveland man Joseph Findley, 43
Perry Babin Why do you think I want anyone to be killed. Are you saying that, if tampering became a more common problem that the railroad couldn't have a small vehicle working as a team member with an engineer in a locomotive? I'm not talking about a weed sprayer or a MoW tamper on the track. A dedicated vehicle capable of keeping its distance from the train, in constant communication with the engineer (where necessary) and that the train's engineer is aware of (a mile or more ahead) to check the track. The report said that the train actually did derail but managed to realign with the trak. This was an Amtrak train. What he was doing was so simple that a 10yo could do it. If you're telling me that having the track pre-run by a vehicle is idiotic, sobeit but I'd like to see someone put forth a solution that could prevent derailments from tampering. This is only going to get worse.
Why do you think I want anyone to be killed. Are you saying that, if tampering became a more common problem that the railroad couldn't have a small vehicle working as a team member with an engineer in a locomotive?
Perry BabinCould that be changed if there were far more derailments due to tampering? Rail systems are not, in any way, tamper-resistant. One man with a spike puller and a few tools could easily cause derailments. With our open borders, we could have many who wish to cause havoc doing just that. 50 years ago, this wasn't an issue. Today? Who can say?
How many on track personnel do you want to kill?
Back in the day - On Track MofW vehicles operated on a 'Track Car Line Up' wherein the Dispatcher would issue a 'Line Up' of trains that would be operating over the territory the MofW person desired to traverse - with specific operational elements of the train(s) operating characteristics being mentioned. The MofW person getting the Line Up had the authority to occupy the track PROTECTING HIMSELF against all the train(s) listed on the Line Up.
The number of damaged MofW vehicles, depending upon specific territory and competence of the MofW work force would be one or more yearly per carrier operating division. Some incidents ended in fatalities and some didn't. A high price to pay. Since then the rules authorizing exclusive track occupany for MofW have been in existence. Safety!
I suspect tampering has been a potential issue ever since the 'Laying of the First Stone of the B&O' that happened on July 4, 1828. Tampering has caused fatal accidents in the past. Movement of its own issues, create accidental occurences. Walking, slipping, tripping and falling go hand in hand up to highway accidents and on to the sinking of the Titanic and other maritime accidents and all the aircraft incident up to the space shuttle accidents. Human movement is dangerous.
Could that be changed if there were far more derailments due to tampering? Rail systems are not, in any way, tamper-resistant. One man with a spike puller and a few tools could easily cause derailments. With our open borders, we could have many who wish to cause havoc doing just that. 50 years ago, this wasn't an issue. Today? Who can say?
Perry BabinFox (came up on another site) ran a story about someone trying to derail trains. As the world gets less sane, are they going to have to keep something like a hi-railer running about a mile in front of trains just to make sure the tracks are safe?
With the current rules in place on most Class 1's - you cannot have a train follow a vehicle moving on a MofW Track Occupancy Authority in the same track segment. Track segments exist from Contol Point to Control Point or within the specified 'track car' limits with Track Warrant Control (Dark Territory).
Fox (came up on another site) ran a story about someone trying to derail trains. As the world gets less sane, are they going to have to keep something like a hi-railer running about a mile in front of trains just to make sure the tracks are safe?
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